• igorzets

    Go JKR! Aways fighting for the right cause. Lily has brown eyes in Deathly Hallows and we didn’t get even a third of the hatred this is getting. Hermione isn’t white, and isn’t black. She is a written character. It’s left space for anyone to play her. Racists are dumb.

  • Femalefan

    If her race isn’t stated then why do drawing and book cover have her as a white girl? The criticism is because Hermione is white in the films so fans see her as white. Changing the skin color messes with continuity.
    Had there been indication of her being black in the books like there was for Lee Jordan or Angelina Johnson or a black actress cast in the movie series then there wouldn’t be an issue.
    With “pale”, “white”, “Hermione’s tanned skin from her vacation in France” used to describe her plus Ron saying he’d pass Hermione off as a relative when Lupin said that the DE were rounding up muggleborns.
    To me that indicates she’s white.

    • I think what we should ultimately think is that a character’s race does not define them in the end. Hermione will be just as badass and amazing and I hope you will still enjoy her, despite how she looks <3

    • Iain Walker

      “If her race isn’t stated then why do drawing and book cover have her as a white girl?”

      Because that’s how the artists intepreted the character. All depictions of a literary character in a different medium, whether in art, cinema or on the stage, are interpretations, and may be subject to the particular interpretative conventions of that medium. Thus, for example, colour-blind casting is a common convention in British theatre, so a black Hermione on stage is no more remarkable than a black Hamlet or a black Macbeth.

      “Hermione is white in the films so fans see her as white”

      “Slughorn is six-foot tall in the films so fans see him as six-foot tall.” “Harry is blue-eyed in the films so fans see him as blue-eyed.” All three statements are equally irrelevant.

      The actor playing Hermione in the films is white, but the films are adaptations of the novels, and hence are just one possible interpretation of the source material. If some fans insist on seeing the film portrayals as definitive, then that’s their problem – and they should have the honesty to recognise it as such. The films are no more definitive of how the character must be portrayed than the stage play is – both are adaptations (the stage production is an adaptation of the script, which is what the play actually is), and neither has any more standing than the other when it comes to visually depicting the characters.

      “To me that indicates she’s white.”

      What the complexion descriptors in the books indicate is that Book!Hermione is light-skinned, but that covers a wide range of ethnic backgrounds, not just “white”. People of different skin-colour can also be related (ever heard of mixed-race marriages?), so Ron believing he could pass Hermione off as a relative proves nothing.

      But just because Book!Hermione is light-skinned, this has no relevance to how Stage!Hermione has to be portrayed. Different media, different conventions.

  • Iain Walker

    Oh, Rowling versus the Twitter Trolls always fills me with glee.

    In fairness, though, there’s more than just racism at work in the whinging about Dumezweni’s casting. There’s also an equally unlovely sense of entitlement amongst some fans, who object to any portrayal of a character that doesn’t match their pre-formed mental image, and seem to think that anyone else involved in creatively intepreting the material must pander to their lack of imagination.

    There are also those who genuinely don’t understand how canonicity works in theatre, and that a production of a play is an adaptation of a script (which is the actual canonical source). This one at least can be excused as an honest mistake (although it’s become pretty clear to me that not everybody objecting on the grounds of “canon” or “continuity” are arguing in good faith).

  • Lisa

    To me, believing that Hermione is white in the books and approving of a Black actress playing her aren’t mutually exclusive positions. JKR calling everyone who points out that Hermione is described as having a “white face” as racist seems a bit silly and certainly isn’t helping. This whole “debate” has spun out of control. So Hermione doesn’t look like in the books. Big deal. Plenty of HP characters were played by actors who don’t look like them. Tall characters are played by short actors and young characters are played by older actors. In theater, you can take even more liberties with the casting than in the movies. Frankly, I was getting tired of reading fanfics describing the characters like the actors and I’m happy that this casting at least shows that other versions are possible and that WB doesn’t own the characters or their appearance.

    As for the supporter side, seeing Hermione as white in the books doesn’t make one a racist nor does it mean that one cannot like Noma as Hermione. What’s wrong with JKR admitting she wrote Hermione as white? Her insistence that Hermione’s skin color is more ambiguous than that of any other random character is just unnecessary as writing a white character doesn’t make her a racist or bigotted in any way. It’s like she’s trying to take some credit now for diversity she didn’t actually put in the books.

    • Iain Walker

      “What’s wrong with JKR admitting she wrote Hermione as white?”

      It is rather irksome that she claimed that skin-colour wasn’t specified. It wasn’t relevant and it just allows the nay-sayers to exploit and perpetuate the “canonicity” red herring. However, the most that one can claim from the books is that Hermione is written as light-skinned, which covers rather more ground ethnically speaking than “white” (complexion descriptors are, after all, not the same as ethnic designators).

    • Mblock

      She said that Hermione was basically her growing up and last I looked JKR is white so why is she backsliding now? PC jitters got to her, or she found a way to make more money.

  • Katelin

    This is what I don’t like about books to movies/plays/etc. It’s difficult for me to lose that image that I’ve created in my head. I know it’s an interpretation but still…it takes away from the books. It’s the reason why I’ve stopped watching movie adaptations. I can’t stand the books being ruined anymore.
    I was upset that they didn’t at least try to get young Lily’s eyes in the movies. It is stated clearly that he has Lily’s eyes in the movie.
    More than anything, I want a Marauders book, not a sequel after the ending of the series is “All was well.”

    • Iain Walker

      In that case, you could always just read the published script. That way the characters will still “look” like the characters in your head.

    • ILoveLunaLoveGood

      This is certainly a bigger problem with a film which is much more “permanent”.
      People really seem to under appreciate and underestimate the unique medium that is theatre. Unlike a film where casting choices can often be based on looks, gender, height, etc In the theatre casting choices are much more about pure acting and the ability for actors to have an impact on the live audience. So if she was the best actor (and it really seems that that was the primary concern and not a “token” gesture or deliberately controversial one) then lets just get on with it.

      Its also nowhere near as “permanent” as a film in the sense that many of us will never actually get to “see” the play (unless they publish a recorded version, which I suppose is still a possibility). Local theatres or schools will soon be able to interpret the play and this allows for much wider inclusion, diversity and creativity.

      When we read/study Shakespierre or Oscar Wilde or Death of a Salesman do we have a “definitive” version of how these characters “look” or are we supposed to look deeper and look at the themes the play raises…?

  • No dobby W

    Well, the question could be put back to, JK Rowling. WHY didn’t YOU/WARNER BROS. cast more DIVERSE actors in the first place to MAJOR roles in the films???? Hollywood has been up in arms about the lack of DIVERSE actors not being given leading roles!! HP DID NOT win ONE Academy Award, as I predicted it wouldn’t on Mugglenet posting years ago! Talk about being a bunch of racists could come back to haunt, Rowling! I am white, and encourage more DIVERSE hiring of other talent for hire in acting roles! Let’s see how JK Rowling hires in the future! Walk the talk, Rowling! Don’t even try to take me on social media, like you do to others, I am your match………….. Have a good day. 😉

  • No dobby W

    Why must JK Rowling, constantly call people nasty names who display other opinions? Just let it float and move on the path to one’s goal. My advise to Rowling, stay off the internet if you are thin skinned. The sun still comes up in the east! lol

  • Mblock

    Stay true to the character and this wont happen. When you add layer after layer of PC bull readers and fans begin to get the hint that you don’t give a damn about what you wrote and instead want us to follow your every political whim. Truth is that the world is not divided between Death Eaters and Good people and to assume an unhappy fan is a racist is racism in it extreme ignorant form. I still am a fan JKR but don’t expect me to be a fan of the same sports teams you are a fan of.