i'm comment 500!!

I am at peace with jean1 who actually had a good reason for wanting H/Hr together, but I disagree with jazzmaze24 saying we just now received proof from J.K. that it WILL be a R/Hr ship. J.K. has been saying/heavily hinting FOR YEARS that it will be a R/Hr ship!!!

I mean a quote, not just the books, the book was up to people's intrepretation (and quote in a way can be as well), but the quote is more solid. Like I said it's plain and simple, not hidden in text and with flowery words. Jo just said it outright, because before the book and the anvil-sized hints made little effect on the H/HR shippers, but after the quote was released some people were actually converted, and the quote, in a way, made them face those hints and acknowledge them. Now they could see what we were talking about, and the 6th book didn't hurt either.

It can happen jazzmaze - look at what has happened with this comment thread. I strongly ship H/Hr, and people like Cess and Ravensclawisdom and wbweasley really like R/Hr, and we are getting on. (Thanks for the hug, wbweasley! I didn't want to sound like a whiner, because let's face it, plenty of people have it much worse, so I'm glad you understood what I was trying to say, and thank you for it.) As for the movie scenes, I do see them as quite H/Hr focussed - although I do see the R/Hr bits as well - but it doesn't make any difference to me because it's not actually canon. I just like H/Hr, is all. Most of the time I do think that R/Hr and H/G is far more likely to occur, but I still hold out hope that the (really quite plausible) alchemy theory will see H/Hr in canon. Either way, R/Hr or H/Hr, I'm still more interested in Snape! So as long as he is done well and Luna doesn't die, I'll be happy with DH.

wbweasley - That's valid point, I could see the filmmakers doing that as well. Just a shame it reduces people to being mean, I like different points of view but people shouldn't stoop as low as calling people delusional.

I'm liking you more and more jean1! I second everything you just said (except the bit about wanting a H/Hr ship, sorry!). If I am surprised, and we end book 7 with a H/Hr ship I will be crushed but will have a tiny shred of happiness knowing you got your wish!....I also definately agree with ya on my main man Snape and I adore Luna but would DIE if anything happened to Neville!!!!

I see what you mean, but eventually someone like Harmony_Rules comes along and ruins all the hard work you've done to keep things civil. And I also agree a lot of people have it much worse, sometimes when so used to trivial troubles people forget that. Thanks for being so nice and for writing comprehendible and complete sentences, the lattter is incredibly appreciated (as well as the former). God, do I love parentheses, they are awesome! (Sorry for the random note.)

Oh, me too! I LOVE Neville, but I have a horrible feeling that he is going to die in DH, and so have been trying to prepare myself. I comfort myself with the thought that JKR wouldn't be so cruel as to kill off both Neville and Luna! I do so love her... I wish I had her facility of being able to cope with horrible things without losing my cool! And you have been very generous with your comments on H/Hr above. I must admit, as much as I would like to see that ship, it would be hard to be perfectly pleased knowing that so many other wonderful shippers like yourself were made unhappy by it. (I suppose it's wrong to hope for a threesome where no-one is disappointed?)

I am feeling a lot of peace and love in this board right now!

That's because it's early in the morning, and some of the loonies (no offense to Luna) haven't woken up yet. But who knows, maybe this board will end on a peaceful note. It could very well and just might.

Oh, I love ya jean1!!! Ahhh, a threesome. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) we will have to turn to fan fic to see an ending like that but that sounds like a good compromise to me!...I too have a horrible sinking feeling in my gut when I think of Neville's fate. I will need some serious therapy after book 7 and I fear how I will be able to cope also!

I wish it was early morning here. I think jean1 suggestion of the threesome where nonone is disappointed,is a good idea. On that note I will say goodnight (or good morning depending where you are).

We can wail "it's not fair!" to each other and stuff ourselves on chocolate, should that horrible fate ever come to pass! But I'm signing off for the night now, it's late where I am and time for bed. Goodnight all!

Goodnight all, it has been fun!

Um, does anyone what to discuss the romance part of the 6th book, as in not the ships but the writing itself? I mean I might be bashed for this, but I remember discussing it with my friend and she shared my sentiments. Both of us have read A LOT of fanfiction, and I have even written some stories, and it seemed to us that Jo's writing was fantastic overall, but that the romance lacked something, it felt like I was reading amateur fanfiction (remember romance-wise [and not the terrible kind but just the decent kind]) from Jo, and I'll have to admit I was a bit disappointed. Now, it wasn't horrible, it just could've used some more development. What does your party think (disagree, agree, somewhat ___ )?

You would think, being as it's a scholastic poll, that people would have read the books... but then you would be thinking... and thats where those people fail!

oh well even if it was obvious from the beginning that it would be r/h, it doesnt mean that everyone has to agree with it!! i still believe/hope/wish/ that harry doesnt end up with ginny, and hermione with ron but i have to accept that at this stage...the end is clear isnt it?? =//

its pretty, PRETTY obvious from the first scene with the two of them. I mean. REALLY. urg.

For some reason I had this strange memory of reading Rowling stating that Harry is NOT a horcrux, but after carefully reading through all the places I thought I might have read this, I know realize that I never heard that statement at all... I think. I didn't want to believe it, but I guess there must be more to the scar than we know so far. I have to admit that now I'm starting to be won over by this theory. Too bad I already voted "no" on the poll :(. Let's ship Hermione and Fred or George!

well i do not think that HARRY-HERMIONE shippers are going to realise that hermione is with ron even if they read the last book. they ll just call J.K dellusional and they ll continue believing their own theory.so why bother explaining them what is really really really obvious!

First things first, I completely agree with Emerson that the shippers who still argue Harry and Hermione are meant to be together are delusional! Though, it's ok if they wanted them to be together as everyone is entitled to their opinion. Secondly, I don't really agree with Keith Olbermann's predictions as they may well be correct but he's basing them on recent events. J.K has known the ending since she began and I don't believe she would not kill a character just so she doesn't lose money, especially as she didn't know the films would be made back then. Finally, on the subject of Harry's scar, Dumbledore says in book one that the scar can't be removed and that he will always have it, so I don't think Harry will be able to remove it to kill Voldemort.

WillyWonka- weird!! i had that same feeling too! about jo saying he wasn't a horcrux!

ok this one i had to comment on. THATS CRAZY!!!! stop watching the movies and READ the books. thats one reason why i have always had a dislike for the movies. because they continue to try and push the whole harry/hermione thing. the first two movies were the only two that got it correct. the ppl who voted in the poll were probably little kids who like the movie better. they should try asking the REAL harry potter fans what they think.

Oh please, Poison. Harmonians go to R/Hr sites just as much as we do, so don't put yourself on a high horse. Don't complain because now you realize that instead of seeming more prominent in the HP fandom because of the poll, you all have instead made yourselves seem more ridiculous and deperate than before. What is pathetic is the fact that some of you sat for hours at a time refreshing that poll page every single day to vote again. Don't believe me? Go to you own little communities. I'm sorry if they embarrass you, but stop trying to avoid the reality that you all cheated now, when there are THREE whole threads in Portkey all about how you all voted until your fingers broke. And Emerson didn't direct the "delusional" comment at people who just like H/Hr better, but at people who actually think the couple will happen in canon. I'm sorry, but thinking that Ginny is actually evil and that she used a love potion, thinking that H/Hr can have no chemistry on-page and be possible because of far-fetched "alchemy" theories, thinking that Ron will go evil and betray Harry, and thinking that moments like Harry panicking at thinking that Hermione died mean romance just screams DELUSIONAL.

I hate this argument over ships so much because I think a lot of people don't behave the way the books encourage us to, which would be to tolerate and accept others despite differing views. I don't think it is ever okay to make fun someone. People can choose to believe or hope for whatever they want and as fans of the book we should accept that...end of story. Emerson, I wish you wouldn't use the word delusional only because it obviously hurts peoples feelings and you are better then that. That's all.

WillyWonka, she did. I don't know if any of you forgot but in this MuggleNet story: http://www.mugglenet.com/ app/news/show/73, Ryan got a letter from Jo. Ryan is a MuggleNet visitor and he believed Harry was a Horcrux and Jo told him that he wasn't, but then someone decided to take down the letter. I still remember that, that's why I don't believe any of this nonsense.

H/Hr nah uh we know it won't happen, finished. Now the article Just :O It is scary how much sense that all makes, but a part of me WANTS Harry to die, it's such a fitting ending I think. Plus Jo has had it planned all along, if she did want Harry to die she wouldn't change her mind just because of the films and stuff. I believe Harry IS a Horcrux as it has been said many times when Voldy tried to kill him a part of his soul entered Harry, just seems to make sense really. I just really want him to die xD I'm such a terrible fan >.

that was really wierd i thought we established this a long time ago!!!! i agree with keith's predictions though!! harry's death would make the harry potter books famous for the next century because he will most likely die in the line of duty......

hehehe...Emerson, you're so funny.

Well, if Harry truly were to become a Muggle--perish the thought!--wouldn't he be miserable for the rest of his life? He wouldn't be happy as a sqib, imo, and I don't think JK would want to leave him miserable--that's a sad way to end the books.

Hey Emerson, thanks for your opinion piece. I do want to add however (and it may have been said somewhere hidden within the 500+ comments, which I am not going to read because I have better things to do right now than fuss over ships) that I also voted Harry/Hermoine for a very good reason. And now... stop slapping me over the head and hear me out... I only voted Harry/Hermoine because I think Ron and Ginny are going to die. So for that reason, in my opinion, it would follow logically that Harry and Hermoine will spend the rest of their lives together (whether in love, married or not).

Wow, I specially liked the alternative ending... lol, its probably my favorite so far...

i love you emerson

First of all I want to thank you all for helping me pass the time at work with all of your comments. Secondly, after reading a majority of the comments I have to say there is a bit of a disconnect between the two group of shippers. The R/Hr shippers think the H/Hr shippers are ignoring facts. The H/Hr shippers are mostly saying that they know it wont end up the way they want it, but still like to write H/Hr. Pretty much everyone is saying they are pretty confident its going to be R/Hr. So whats the problem? No one is delusional or crazy or anything!!! (well except maybe that lady wearing the football helmet at Circuit City yesterday that kept talking to me) I think the people that say JK isnt right about the relationships is a little off their rocker. It is HER story by the way. But let the people who want to write and talk H/Hr do it. I think Jo would be happy that she has inspired people to create their own world. (well except for the Harry/Draco shippers, that's just a little too much for me) I personally leave the writing to the professionals, I am not creative in that way. But for those who enjoy doing it, good for you. R/Hr shippers just remember you are going by the facts in the books and what JK has said and most H/Hr shippers will admit they dont think it will end up H/Hr, but like to be creative and write their own version of the Harry Potter world. (In my world Sirius and Dumbledore would still be around, but that's why I am not a world famous author) :-)

maybe you're delusional

Harry/Draco? Whats up with that? Yes i do know it will never happen and im a ron/Hermione shipper all the way. but H/D :DDDDDDD

abi: whoever said H/D is a gay homosexual pervert and must tie a goats liver tightly about their neck and stand naked at the full moon in a barrel of eels eyes

Personally, I don't believe that Olbermann article...I know he's entitled to his own opinion and all, but the amount of well-known facts he got wrong leads me to believe that he doesn't have a clue about the series...and the fact that he thinks that the amount of money the series makes would affect how Jo ended the series is unbelievable...anyway, as for this whole harry/hermoine ron/hermione business, it's ron/hermione...it always has been, but I guess people can think what they want as long as they know it's ron/hermione in the end.

IheartBandCamp: Personally, I don't believe you are not delusional

Lilbecky8, that was a really nice post... It's a nice way to think about it... inspiring others to create. Makes me feel a bit more at peace about people disliking the R/Hr and H/G ships (which I love). I think what most of the R/Hr-ers were getting uptight about is not really what has been posted on here, but the cumultive arguments with H/Hr shippers over the past few years (and vice-versa for the H/Hrs). There seems to be so many H/Hr shippers that actually do believe that R/Hr is a giant ruse and that H/Hr is definate... What upets me a bit is that a few of the H/Hr shippers really hate the characters of Ron and Ginny... labelling Ron as abusive and Ginny as a s***. I readily acknowledge that H/Hr shippers are extremely well versed in all things HP, and their shippiness does not spring from a lack of knowledge of the books, but their perspectives of the characters seems similar to how they were portrayed in POA movie... Hr the wonderful, all conquering hero who is ever-present at Harry's side come rain, hail or shine, and Ron as a brainless cowardly oaf that really brings nothing to Harry or the trio other than some comic relief (I really detsted the characterisation of Ron and Hermione in PoA movie... spoiled what was an otherwise fan-blinking-tastic movie). I know that not all H/Hr shippers think like that, so if you don't, I'm not talking about you. Insulting JK for constructing R/Hr and H/G is also pretty bloody off, in my opinion... I've read some people say things like "well, you couldn't expect much more from someone that has failed in relationships at the highest level (Matrimony)", and "just think of the example that she is setting for her children... they're doomed, 'yes girls, allow guys to walk all over you (Hr), and do whatever it takes to coerce guys into liking you (G), and boys, treat girls like crap, abuse is fine (R)'". This sort of stuff has been spewed out by some shippers (not all) that are preparing to abuse JK if it ends up RHr&HG.

why would I be delusional?...just because I think people can have their own opinion?

You're right, Emerson. You're always right. :) I never understood Harry/Hermione shippers but they *are* delusional. You said it yourself. :) You're just being a bit more sensitive now, I guess. I like these rants, you should keep on posting them! They are much more interesting than regular HP-related news...

exactly: and i suggest you bind a goats liver tightly about your throat and stand naked at the full moon in a barrel of eels eyes

just for the record, rob15, i never said i was a harry/hermione shipper...so you must just like calling people delusional for the fun of it...whatever...and as for your comment about me, goats liver and eel eyes...it's a creative way to insult me, but i don't have a clue what to say to that...

"Ok ppl, what's wrong with wishful thinking? Why is it that whenever Emerson says something everyone thinks like he does? Stop thinking "of the entire human race, 56% of us are idiots"... Just give the people that want to believe for the time being that Dumbledore isn't dead the right to do so... give them a break, seriously." Regardless, 50% of the human race ARE idiots. For a smart race, humans really are REALLY dumb.

BUT... Just because it's Ron/Hermione NOW doesn't mean it will be by the end of Book 7. What if Ron and Ginny die? (and I really hope they do, Ron is a *******) And so is Emerson.

I love you, Emerson. Wanting is definitely different than believing. It seems that some fans are still a bit unsure about that part. We had better all start hoping that the poll was broken because otherwise that's just pathetic. How sad it is that some part of humanity cannot accept or clearly see that Ron/Hermione is inevitable.

how about we all just stop arguing whether we like the r+h pairing (I like it) or not. Now is the time to enjoy the series as a whole. Anyway, I wonder what color hair ron and hermione's children will have. Or how many they'll have. (hubba-hubba!!!!!!:)) Have fun ron.

i love ginny but the whole harry/ginny thing to me is sooo gross. I mean harry didn't even notice her until like late in the series and come on! She's ron's sister! so if they all end up getting married [by this i mean Ron/Hermie and Harry/Gin] then they can all be related in some sort or marrige way. lol weeirddd

Meh, I think Rob's just trying to stir up a fight... Ignore him... or start up another battle in the comments.... I see your barrel of eel's eyes and raise you a tub of Vampire bat droppings! Ha! Take that... Hmmm... I'ts 2am where I am, so please excuse the disconnected musings of my brain...