Speculation, speculation
Speculation, speculation WARNING: This is a very opinionated post!

Keith Olbermann has made some bold public predictions about the end of the series on his TV news show, Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Make sure you read the second page of the article before making judgment. It is my personal belief, and not necessarily that of the rest of the MuggleNet staff, that he is not far off the mark in his guesses. Except for that whole Harry turning into a Muggle business. I mean, really?

In other news, Scholastic has published the results of their fourth fan poll question. They claim a majority of fans - 56% - believe that Harry will end up with Hermione, 20% believe that Ron will end up with Hermione and 19% believe that Harry will end up with Ginny.

Um, was Scholastic polling people who have actually read the books? 56% of fans are wrong. I quote JKR, in the interview Melissa and I conducted with her two summers ago:

JK Rowling: Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione. I do feel that I have dropped heavy hints. ANVIL-sized, actually, hints, prior to this point. I certainly think even if subtle clues hadn't been picked up by the end of Azkaban, that by the time we hit Krum in Goblet...

I would think it's difficult to interpret "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione" and "anvil-sized hints" any other way, but apparently 56% of fans disagree with me (or just haven't read the interview... or Book 6... or Book 5... or Book 4...). But then, many fans still believe Dumbledore is alive, despite JK Rowling saying that he is "definitely dead." Come on, guys. Wishful thinking isn't going to bring him back.

Note that the question wasn't Who Do You Want to End Up With Whom?, but Who Will End Up With Whom?. There's a difference between wanting something to be true, and believing it is true. There is a word in the English dictionary for holding a belief without evidence, and in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary... I'll give you a hint, it starts with a D.

UPDATE: I don't know if I can make this any clearer, but I will try one more time.

I am not calling all Harry/Hermione shippers delusional! I respect H/Hr shippers who acknowledge the obvious: that JKR paired up Ron and Hermione, but wish she hadn't. The only people I am calling delusional are the shippers who try to wriggle and rationalize their way around "Yes, we do now know that it's Ron and Hermione" and still believe the two will make babies in Book 7. Right, because JKR was lying to us? HOPING is different from BELIEVING!
Posted by Emerson on Jun 26th | 684 Comments
Visitor Comments
Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

hey Lillibet: its 10:55am where i am *takes a sip of coffee* so i'm just getting started, I've got a twelve gauge keyboard, so if there's a war, i'm ready.


Posted by soccerluver13 Jun 27th 2007

Emerson, I love you. Lol.


Posted by harmonyalways Jun 27th 2007

I wrote this yesterday and i think i'll post it again: don't know is some of you go on h/hr forums but if you do, you'll notice that a big majority of them stay polite. What i mean is they don't treat chocos and herons badly, they say what they have to say without being mean. If someone gets carried away, an other harmonian will say to calm down and keep it 'cool'. I think that since this site has no (or isn't supose to have) ship in particular, it would be best if we made it that way (polite), because seriously this delusional thing is harsh. Once again, i would like to remember you that every ship has it's reason. Lets just listen to what others have to say and thats all. Don't need to say we're delusional for us to know your not on our ship. So plz,stop with the d word, it really is upsetting. ( just imagine going on one of your fav sites and seing practically everywere 'YOUR DELUSIONAL'...it really makes you wanna punch the screen...:( ) Seriously, you canot call people delusional because they prefer another ship, we KNOW that it wont be h/hr so give us a rest! I tried to explain my point of you (451-500) but it doesn't seem to work. So plz lets just be civilized about this.


Posted by oomboo2 Jun 27th 2007

Olbermann's theory kinda sucks if you ask me. I'm kind of sick of the "Harry is a horcrux" theory. Didn't Jo already shoot that down anyway? Olbermann made severeal mistakes in his article (like saying Harry could be killed with the cruciatus curse) so i don't really value his opinion. --------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------- I like the the latter theory though. Except instead of blank pages, I think Ginny will mess up while parrelell parking, crash through the side of the diner, and run over Voldy.


Posted by Micino Jun 27th 2007

Haha, that guy did do a pretty good job with predictions though(minus the diner). I can't believe how many people do not realize that Harry and Ginny end up together. Are people really that stupid and delusional, or are fans that read the books giving wacky answers to those that don't for giggles. Personally, I like the secong option, although, it does give us a bed name. ;-D


Posted by Ukio Jun 27th 2007

I liked that article from Olbermann, funny although I got to say as a fan I would not mind if Harry dies, actually I believe that would be the best way to end the series, and she wont have to worry about people asking her if she would do a sequel or something like that. And honestly what person who has read the books still thinks the romance is Harry/Hermione, thats insane!


Posted by HuGSnape Jun 27th 2007

Emerson i love you. Ur so awesome! -rosi (HuGSnape141)


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Harmonyalways, I sympathise... I really do feel for the H/Gr shippers that really do like H/Hr yet realise that it's not going to happen... Not only do you have cranky R/Hr-ers getting uppety, but you have other H/Hrs giving you a bad name (I don't know if this upsets you too, but it'd upset me). I know it might not help, but Emerson is directing the delusional thing at the shippers that do not see (as you do) that it's going to be R/Hr. There's a whole heap of H/Hr shippers that are not polite as you are, and ridicule R/Hr-ers for falling for the "obvious" red-herring of R/Hr. (Of course, there's a lot of really rude R/Hrshippers as well, I'm not disputing that for a second). I wrote about some of the horrible things that some H/Hr people have said towards the end of the last page. I suppose what I'm getting at, is that the delusional thing wasn't intended for you at all... it was intended for the ones that i mentioned in my post on the previous page. That said, I agree that Emerson probably should have cooled it... I think that labelling the more intense H/Hr shippers in that way has made them even more anti R/Hr... please read the post on the prev page... people that say offensive things like that need some strong words. And Rob.... my laptop is actually a heat-seeking missile, so I'll be able to take out your computer and your cup of coffee once I've ignited the gun powder... How I wish for a cup of coffee... sigh... stupid 2.20 am and needing to go to bed!


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

Lillibet: I didn't understand a-one-word you said


Posted by Seventhchild Jun 27th 2007

I wouldn't think Emerson so lacking of delusion. He still thinks Neville and Luna will get together, after Rowling explicitely stated on her website that they won't. Pot. Kettle. Black.


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

Lilibet: heat-seeking missiles don't have gun powder so i doubt you'll "be able to take out" my computer and my cup of coffee once you've "ignited the gun powder..."


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Rob: sigh, that's what I get for writing tired!! I promise that I actually can construct logical sentences when not tired... lol, dearie me. I'll be off to blissful sleep then. I hope that everyone stays nice in the comments... :) Btw, does Emerson really think that Luna and Neville will get together? sigh... oh Emerson *shakes head*.


Posted by Rictusempra115 Jun 27th 2007

I love you Emerson!!!!! Can't believe 56% are idiots...... ANVIL SIZED HINTS........ seems a bit obvious to me :)


Posted by christianaeg Jun 27th 2007

LOL people this is the fun of mugglenet!! People here (me included!) are so obessive and have such defined ideas about what's going to happen that fights break out like this!! It's great... no where else is there such gatherings of the most obessive Potter fans!!!


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Lol, just to clarify: I did know that... I was planning on saying that I had a cannon, then changed my mind... hehe, just so you aren't concerned by the thought of my total stupidity!


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

christianaeg: thank you, i agree completely, what do you say me and you stir up a huge argument?


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

lilibet: don't leave, this is fun arguing about stupid stuff like gun powder, you're the only one that actually listens to my comments, if you go back over the comments, you'll see that i tried to stir up some weird fights. Like about Halo 3 being better than OOTP video game.


Posted by anaweasley Jun 27th 2007

Ok one thing is somebody wants to think Dumbledore still alive (we all did it with Sirius and altho Albus' case is WAY different well they have a right to think so) but it's another thing when some people think Harry is going to end up with Hermione, like it has been said one thing is to "want" something and another "believing" in something. and not only JKR SAID IT, it has been hinted in all the books that the couple is Hr/R, i mean it's a FACT and if somebody says "but I want it to be H/Hr" that's cool but when they say "NO!! IT HARRY AND HERMIONE!!!" now that's.. well.. you know. Have they ever heard "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's duck"? well Hr/R are a similar case


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

rob15: I was readin all your comments last night and nearly fallin off my chair laughing! you crack me up


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

thanks potterlove06


Posted by ab_fab_brazzlefrat Jun 27th 2007

Did they only poll people who haven't read book 6? Because sheer denial I guess could get them through the others, but it's kinda hard to read the 6th book and come out still thinking it's gonna be H/Hr. and NINETEEN percent for Harry/Ginny?! are these people HIGH or something?! seriously. . .


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Rob: Lol I bet the HalovOotP argument went down well on a HP website! Well, in that case, I'm gonna stick to my guns (haha! man, I am so funny) and reaffirm that heat seeking missiles are actually powered by gun powder. pfft... anyone that thinks differently c.l.e.a.r.l.y hasn't read Harry Potter enough.


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

hey guys! i know this is off topic..but today s Helen Keller's birthday...i just wanted to recognize such a brilliant woman. anyways..i just woke up like literally right now and read emerson's update and I admire him even more now..yeah well I got to go eat


Posted by Leticia_Grint Jun 27th 2007

i absolutely agree with this. congrats emerson...nice ^.^ . i think the only h/hr argument i've seen in my whole life that made some sense, is that being a h/hr shipper is not wrong, they just interpretated the books and movies in a different way; the rest is trash :/ . so i believe that if even the AUTHOR has confirmed it'll be r/hr its totally nonsense being a h/hr shipper, but we can't do anything, h/hr shippers will never recognize they're wrong :x


Posted by Asphodele Jun 27th 2007

Go Emerson !!!


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

it's actually Halo 3 and i don't think the word c.l.e.a.r.l.y. stands for anything


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

i want another argument...


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Well, o.b.v.i.o.u.s.l.y you are just not bright enough to comprehend these higher forms of communication... Well, it's not your fault really, you can't be expected to be as smart as me... see, I'm so smart that I didn't need to specify which Halo game I was referring to... I knew it was three, so I eliminated the obvious details. You really must be delusional if you fail to see that I am all-knowing.


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

how about Harry and Grawp or.........hmmm.......... .Hagrid and Dumbledore (wait, he REALLY IS DEAD).....since everyone seems to think Snape is good *coughsmya#$coughs* than how about Snape and Draco. Or Dobby and Kreacher


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

lillibet: *sighs heavily and rolls eyes*......tut. tut. tut......hmmm.......lets see........*sighs heavily and rolls eyes*.....first of all o.b.v.i.o.u.s.l.y doesn't stand for anything either and "unless you are using some form of language yet unknown to humans" i'm pretty sure you meant HALO 1!


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

is anyone else around here as bored as I am?


Posted by HPgeek4LIFE Jun 27th 2007

i'm a R/Hr shipper. there so gonna get together. ya. the H/Hr shippers are probably just movie fans, not book fans like the rest of us. i also dont think that harry and ginny are officially gonna get together, but they are gonna use each other as crutches.


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Now that there is another argument-keen person around to maintain the muggle-baiting, I shall retire to repose.... I't's now 3.49 am for me! :P Rob: just to make sure we're clear, my gun-powder fuelled missile could take you out anyday! And do you really believe that Snape isn't good? If so, hooray! That makes two of us... I don't necesarily believe he's on Voldy's side, but I'm just so sick of everybody thinking the sun shines out of his ears, and the obviousness of him being good... Oooh, maybe we can go from a shipping war to a Snape's loyalty war!! Wait, I'm going to bed, that's right! *focus liz, focus!* Have a good uh, day, everyone ;)


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

im pretty bored too potter love 06, but there's this cool cheat i figured out myself in HALO 2! *coughs* where you can be invisible for a whole mission....


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

you guys think Snape is bad? SAME HERE!


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

uh...my name is rob15 not :P Rob. and yes potterlove06 is just as bad as Lillibet


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

sorry, i meant Snape is just as bad as I am


Posted by harrys_metamorphmagus Jun 27th 2007

haha, luv ya, emerson!


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

Someone's "as bad as" me... triumph! And how insane is the huge amount of support for Snape!? He kills DD, yet of course he's secretly full of righteousness and moral integrity... because that's the pattern that has happened in every single book so far. I have a sneaking suspicion that he could turn out not completely evil, but ugh...


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

sooooooo...who thinks Greg Oden is going to drafted first over Kevin Durant...b/c that is bull@#$%!!


Posted by Lillibet Jun 27th 2007

hehe, the proposed argument strays into territory that exceeds my knowledge... (it can happen to anyone... even someone as brilliant as I)... I'll say goodnight/day for the third time!........ G'night and G'day! Don't let the muggles get you down


Posted by letheldose Jun 27th 2007

Cocky as ever, Emerson. I love to see you all riled up like this. My entertainment for today.


Posted by christianaeg Jun 27th 2007

LOL this is getting interesting... I'm not one to stir up fights, just one to grab popcorn and watch!


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

HEM HEM......Greg Oden-Kevin Durant??!!


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

Let's start an argument over who should have won the NBA...Spurs or Cavs?


Posted by hedwig91 Jun 27th 2007

Thank you Emerson thank you Emerson thank you Emerson! I was so angry when i saw that myself when i voted! It's time to move on and get over the fact that its not harry and Hermione now or ever. Trust Jo. And gosh lay off Emerson a little H/Hr shippers. He's no worse then any of you when it comes to gloating and at least hes actually funny.


Posted by rob15 Jun 27th 2007

I WANTED THE CAVS TO WIN *F@#$* GO BOOBY!


Posted by PotterLove06 Jun 27th 2007

SAME HERE! LEBRON DESERVES A CHAMPIONSHIP!!! were you happy with tony parker as MVP?


Posted by K8y Jun 27th 2007

Harry/Ginny - Ron/Hermione... Enough said!


Posted by ANonnyMouse Jun 27th 2007

Ah, this again. *sits back and grins* I happened to notice that too, when I voted... I had a strong feeling the words "anvil" and "delusional" were bound to pop up. =)




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