I agree, it doesn't sound like Jo. She wouldn't say "second." "Moment," maybe. When Jo writes from the not-Harry's-perspective-3 rd-person thing (like the first two chapters of HBP), she tends to have it seem as if it came from an older person than Harry -- I can maybe, /maybe/, see her saying "second" if it was Harry or something saying, "Wait a second," but I don't think this is real. It's always possible, of course. But I still don't think it's real.

Or MAYBE this epilogue is a load of crap, and we actually will find out their careers in the real one.

Royalstar-- Yea there's a goal, 1000 posts of rage-filled, DH-obsessive, fighting HP fans. It happened, and now I'm bored, I'll check the posts again tomorrow, when everyone's mushy, computer-logged brains have solidified a bit so they can think clearly.

the website it has links, and at the very bottom it says in the person who posted the whole thing he/she says "if your wondering how the got there its b/c what hermione used in part 3 to travel in time, well ya thats how they go to be in nineteen years later" thats what they say tristero07 and wha tdo you think hermione used in PoA??? a timetuner. anyway im done arguing with you because its pointless like eviegrl941 says. i swear i think a wars going to break out online.... someone call jo!!

this really upsets me that people would actually read this. i haven't and here's why: i read this article talking about that 'magic moment' that everyone has when they open a hp book. without spoilers, you are going on an adventure, figuring out and realizing everyting ON YOUR OWN. every person's 'magic moment' is different, but to preserve it, you can't go around trying to figure out what's going to happen before the book gets out. it ruins it, and i think that if you want that moment that only you alone can experience, you won't read potential spoilers. thus ends my rant.

just made me more excited. :D!

The Epilogue has a name because JKR likes to name things. There are books whose chapters don't have names. JKR didn't take that route because she likes creativity. Calling the epilogue "Epilogue" isn't her style. Last I checked, it IS included in the ToC, though that means nothing because the scanned ToC is fake (without any doubt, there's a typo if you haven't noticed it). BUT that doesn't mean anything anyway. If you noticed, before the epilogue (I mean even before the page with the picture on it) there is a whole blank page with the words "Nineteen Years Later" written on it. That would suffice, it doesn't need to be in the ToC with a full page announcement like that. ------------------------- --harry_p_7, I said I read the epilogue, I;m not talking about myself I'm talking about others. They come to comment on one spoiler and see another, you may have a right to do that but it's not moral. And SHE WOULD NOT SAY THE LAST WORD IS WELL BECAUSE (LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU, IT WOULD HELP IF YOU HAD A DICTIONARY HANDY WHILE YOU READ THIS) WELL MEANS "GOOD!" IF the last word is well it implies Voldemort dies (something any HP fan would assume, but which JKR can't say no matter how obvious). And Christ, you can't even figure that out after reading the whole freaking sentence?! STUPID. Sorry, it's true, after reading dumb comment after comment by you.

that doesn't make any sense to use a timeturner... remember in PoA it took 1 turn=1 hour. you know how many turns that would take?

that doesn't make any sense to use a timeturner... remember in PoA it took 1 turn=1 hour. you know how many turns that would take?

I hope it is crap but you never know. All these children, all these names, I mean really. Does it really say they used time - turners? Why on earth.

Tristero 07 where is the typo?

tristero07, what I was saying is that the pages that actually contain the epilogue imply that Nineteen Years Later is the actual NAME of the chapter. Something like that would be included on the ToC. It wouldn't just say 'Epilogue' on there, and then give the chapter an actual name IN the chapter.

I can't believe you posted this story, Mugglenet. Can't effing believe it.

The Epilogue... parts feel like Jo, some of it doesn't. I suppose it's a fairly poignant ending to the series, something that we should be expecting. But I would have thought that the real one would have mentioned more characters (like the twins) and would have at least SOME reference to what's happened in Deathly Hallows. Although, Jo has had the Epilogue written for years, so she may have decided to simply leave it as it was (apart from moving the scar line around at the end). I like the line 'he was the bravest man I ever knew'. Coolness. But I'm still skeptical.

What I find interesting is that if someone truly has scanned the book and is posting the epilogue -- why that part ?-- why not the final battle and who wins and who dies? If they want to hand out spoilers, make it the big ones! For that reason I think it's fake and because it is a REALLY weak last chapter and none of the other books have ended such. If you read the posted epilogue carefully there are some errors as well as far as who is speaking about what - the person changes. Someone did put a lot of time and effort into it though.

i agree with czechmetz

Well if its just potential and you have no way of proving it right then you still aren't sure whats going to happen.. In my opinion reading theoris and potential spoilers gets me more excited about the book. But I really hope that the link that everyone has been posting about the epilouge is fake..... I would be really mad if the ending was all happy and everyone lived happily ever after and they all had little babies at the end... no that would be sooo gay.. I would be like WTF was she thinking? I seriously would be pissed if thats the ending... and isn't the book 784 pages?? once the book comes out all we need is the amount of pages and well be able to tell if its real or fake... Actually there is some proof.. that epilouge did not describe ANYTHING besides them having babies and crap like that... and JK Rowling said that the remaining survivors or whatevers life would be described or something like that...but really it does sound like fan fiction... I just hope its not real and if it is... I would wish I never would have read harry potter... if thats how thins is going to end then WTF... well.... yea oh and would everyone STFU ABOUT FU.CKING JOES GOD DA.MN WRITING STYLE!! find something else to say!! its been repeated 20 MILLION GOD DAM.N TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! Im so annyoed by it... 1000 comments of useless BULL.SHI.T

-clears throat- Did anyone else notice this tidbit of information? Whenever JKR first introduces a character into a book (even if they've already been met and became very important prior), does she not always use their entire names? I notice that he is referred to as "Snape" rather than the usual "Severus Snape" that would better match her style. Perhaps this leads to the paragraph being a fraud? Possibly not, but it doesn't seem like something Jo would do. ^^

tristero07 would you get this through your thick skull~~ if your tired of reading my messages stop reading them!! and ALSO WELL WONT ALWAYS MEAN "GOOD" AND PLUS SHE WOULDNT BE SAYING THE WHOLE FREAKING SENTENCE. if she says the whole sentence then of course it means that all was well, but you can use well in all sorts of ways than it meaning good. for instance when she said scar menas the last word it means oh voldy dies and harry finally loses his scar. alright??? you probably need to stop looking at everything through one way, there would always be hundreds of possibilities. NOT ONLY ONE SO STOP BITING MY HEAD OFF!

You must be retarded. And eviegirl(sp?) I'm starting to doubt your intelligence, too, I'm sorry to say. Who would believe ANYTHING written "ya no dat ting dat Hermine used in the tird book, ya, well dats how dey got dere, wit dat jawn"?????? An epilogue occurs after a good amount of time. Chances are the person who wrote that (who probably wasn't even the source of the scans anyway) didn't even know what the word epilogue meant! You're right, it's no use arguing with me, especially when you're arguments are like this.

Perhaps (this is a bit of a stretch) they wouldn't keep the "title" of the prologue in the table of contents because it's a tad spoilery? (...Ah, Or maybe not, since some of the other chapter titles could be just as vaguely spoilery...hmm) JKR did say that the epilogue would tell what happens to the surviving characters but not how far into the future, exactly (If I'm not mistaken) Also, on the scans, if you take the first page of the epilogue into PhotoShop and up the contrast and darken it, you can see that the previous page of the book says "Nineteen Years Later" over a diamond patterned background. This same pattern is used on the title pages in the beginning of the novels. Perhaps this suggests that the epilogue is meant to be a bit separate from the main part of the book itself, and was therefore given a special extra page to show the actual title "Nineteen Years Later". Or maybe I'm just reading into this to much...Ack.

If this were authentic, surely there would have been SOME kind of physical description surrounding the characters. This simply feels too rushed. I mean, if this were JO writing SNAPE....Snape never says something without curling his lip, sneering, or flashing his eyes in some way. Come on people. Plus, she wouldn't just tell us it's Snape saying something right away, she'd more likely have the other using his name as a form of reveal. Okay, anyway. I still think Mugglenet should take down this link, lets not encourage spoilers!!!

Czechmetz, no one said you had to read it.

I didn't read the epilogue because it looked pretty real, but I did get a glimpse of the chapter art and though the picture looks real, it looks like someone took the "Pen Tool" on Photoshop, cut it out, and pasted it onto a page. Not very hard to do. So it could be a fake, or it could be real. Either way, I'm not reading it.

Yeah it all kind of sounds not real to me. It just doesn't sound like J.K Rowling's writing style. But either way I'm like dying for the book to come out. 5 more days!!!!!! Yes! I can't wait!!

JKR's writing style HAH its three fucki.ng sentences!!

OMFG tristero07 THE ONE WHOSE BEEN POSTING THE EPILOUGE HAS BEEN POSTING THAT SENTENCE AND YOUR SYAING WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD BELIEVE THAT PERSON, WELL THAT DUMBASS PERSON IS YOU! SO STOP TALKING TO US LIKE WERE STUPID AND GO READ IT YOURSELF FOUR HUNDRED TIMES SO YOU CAN GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICKSKULL THAT IT ISNT REAL.

Cl3 i'm not familiar with photoshop, can you create stuff like what were looking at and it look real?

To me the excerpt DOES sound like a plausible beginning to the book. I think it's best not to assume that "that doesn't sound like Jo's writing style" or whatever, because think about how silly you'll feel if it DOES turn out to be the actual beginning.

jedi and bringmethehorizon, thank you for some intelligent points. harry_p_7 I'm replying to your posts because I can't let idiotic things like that go. But great point about the page numbers, and especially about the epilogue being the only part posted. Still not entirely convincing. MAybe the person was scared of getting in trouble, or wasn't trying to spoil everything...just wanted to give the last chapter up to people who wanted to know what happens (which is where you would usually go for important information. This is especially true for someone who had a tim elimt with the book, like someone who worked for a book store. But I'll cling to hope.

theres no way thats real. nooo way. i mean, it said it was on a printed manuscript, so why would they have typos? after it says "each other's chests" it has a colon. that makes no sense. wouldnt it be a new sentence there? or maybe a semicolon? and then after that, they spelt recognizing wrong. AND its not JKs writing style. but, theres a possibility its real. (though i seriously doubt it) and if it is, im gonna feel pretty stupid..haha.

tristero07, that's not exactly how it was worded. THIS is what it actually said, "How did the characters go 19 years into the future? Well, remeber that piece of equipment that Hermione used in book 3 to time travel? Well, she used that. That's all. for now." Anyhow, I don't believe any of it, so...And Cl3, no one ever leaves the title out of the ToC, or any of the chapter names. You read the chapter titles at your own risk, though you can never really deduce exactly what the chapter will be about just by reading the title.

Well, diagongirlie, everyone is going to have their different opinions on the matter, of course. I'm just saying that I doubt she would suddenly change her writing style after 6 books. -shrugs- In all honesty, I won't feel silly at all if it turns out to be true -- just surprised.

It's weird. I thought I'd be able to tell INSTANTLY if the Epilogue was real or not. Glancing at it again, I'm still in two minds. I do truly believe Jo will end it with something like this, but the writing style is...I just don't know.

"i'm not familiar with photoshop, can you create stuff like what were looking at and it look real?" If you were good, I guess. I noticed though that you could see part of the jacket art behind the pages. That could be hard to do. But the font is all over the web, putting images and stuff on paper isn't hard at all, so it really could be fake. Whoever did it, though, if it is photoshopped, did a good job.

that website with all the leaks BETTER NOT BE TRUE BECAUSE THEN I WILL KNOW THE STORY i let my mom read it told her not to tell me but she did

"surprised" is good! i'm not going to read any spoilers at all, save for this one Mugglenet has posted because at least the Guardian is a real and solid publication, but seriously, it's best to let yourself be surprised by the book. I recommend people just stay off the Internet spoiler-related sites.

Yeah, performingmnkey, I'm in the same boat as you. sucks doesn't it? BUT there's an easy way to prove it. I read something on another forum about someone who knew the color scheme of the book when you took off the jacket (i.e., the color that the interior hard part should be). This epilogue picture shows red clearly. I think on that forum they said brown! (Though it might have been red and brown, I have to go check but I'll come back and say. Hopefully this can prove it's a fake!)

Photoshop can do some amazing things. It can take something that couldn't possibly be real and make it appear as though it is. It does take some skill, though, and plenty of time.

I doubt the epilogue is true somehow, too rosey and all their children's names are a bit silly. Their all named after other characters.

tristero07 is right. It can't even be considered an epilouge... its just like an extra chapter..

a epilouge is a epilouge, there could be NOTHING after it. no other chapters or anything like that. the end would be the end, and to me it feels like it wasnt finished, it felt like there could be a book 8, just my opinion, and tristero07 they are MY comments so freaking skip them already and let them go. if they are so stupid why bother to comment on them? do you do that all day? commenting on people's 'stupid' comments? you need a life but w.e.

thanks hotchilly (mmm i haven't had chili in a while)

Um yeah... Snape doesn't strike me as the type of person to say something like, "the best." It gave me this stupid mental image of him saying, "OMG Let's be BEST FRIENDSZ LOLOLOLZ."

Although it sounds like an interesting beginning, I doubt it was Ms. Rowling who wrote it. She probably would not have revealed Snape's identity so quickly. It just seems to...mechanical to be Ms. Rowlings'.

harry_p_7, that's what I said. JK wouldn't end the book like that, because it's practically BEGGING for their to be another one. She'll end it in a way that gives the reader a sense of closer.

A van carrying the books to a local main library here morroco was carjacked and the books removed n given to the locals cos the jackers thought it was worthless. A journalist friend of mine found the books and has said that 'the dark lord ascending' is indeed the first chapter. There's is no spoiler here ... I won't do that to you guys but he has read the book and harry indeed dies after snape. Vold is pushed through the veil and the archway dias broken.

Funny how they put the blacked out spoilers as if anyone would refrain from reading them... I read the Scrimgeour description before HBP was released... didn't ruin the book for me and neither will this, if it is indeed canon.

She said on J. Ross that Harry's story would come to a clear end in DH. I skimed the epilogue. But did it seem like that to those that read it?

...which fake Epilogues are you lot reading? Is it the one with Albus Severus Potter (-pffft-) or another? If it's as ridiculous as it sounds, I'd like to read that one as well. -giggles- I love making fun of fakies! Also, has anyone read my previous post that began with "-clears throat-" by any chance? I'm wondering if my consideration makes any sense...?