Scholastic gets subpoena to identify spoiler
Scholastic gets subpoena to identify spoiler The LA Times is reporting that the US Harry Potter publisher obtained a subpoena to learn the identity of a user who allegedly posted copies of Deathly Hallows on a California website.

Scholastic said in a court filing Monday that "materials hosted on Photobucket.com's system" contain materials that infringe copyrights owned by Scholastic and J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books. Photobucket.com, a News Corp. unit, is a website for sharing photos and videos on social networks such as MySpace.

The subpoena was sent to Gaia Interactive Inc. in San Jose seeking the identity of a user on gaiaonline.com, a social network, according to the filing in San Francisco federal court.

Gaia complied with the subpoena, removed the material and temporarily banned the user from the site, said Gaia spokesman Bill Danon.
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Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

Griselda - couldn't agree more. Wouldn't it be great though if Jo was in on the whole thing? It would have been so easy for the publisher to get hold of some fanfic and print up a copy in the style of the actual book. I couldn't help but think of the fake horcrux at the end of HBP and how this would be right up Jo's street. It's probably very far fetched, but it's a nice idea :)


Posted by mcq07 Jul 18th 2007

ok, people that have read the spoilers - IS THIS REAL? ht tp:// bayimg.com/ jadhAAABp - honestly dont read this if you havent read the spoilers, looks VERY real.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

mcq07 - have a look on the previous page for various reasons why it is probably not real. It looks real, but if you read it there are lots of things that just don't add up.


Posted by mcq07 Jul 18th 2007

gj197, thanks for the reply :) - yeah i dont think its real, interesting though. do you think that any spoilers that have been seen online are real?


Posted by Voldemort_Himself Jul 18th 2007

gj197 - Yes! So it wasn't just me. Still, I can't believe somebody would go to such great lengths to fool some people. Also, while reading the "leak", it seemed like the book itself was not designed for a child to be reading, I thought it had too many confusing words and plots that children simply wouldn't understand, even though this is supposed to be childrens book.


Posted by mysteriz Jul 18th 2007

I stumbled upon the spoilers with the StumbleUpon Firefox extension (Note: DON'T USE STUMBLEUPON!). I was depressed all day until I just read Wheres_My_Snare's theories. It actually makes sense! This is exactly the sort of thing I would do, to protect my property. And hey! If the real book turns out to be different, we get to read 2 books. One of them a psst poor copy, granted, but it is value for money! If this is the case, send whoever thought of this the advertisement world's equilavent of an Oscar. Of course, if this turns out to be the actual book....well, I never liked anyway. :D


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

mcq07 - no problem :) I really don't know about the spoilers to be honest with you. I have read so many conflicting things that I am still none the wiser and won't be until I get my book on Friday night! Someone told me who died in HBP before it was even published (and they were right), but it didn't spoil it for me because Jo is so good at what she does. I have tried not to look at the spoilers (I know I've been reading the dodgy book - but I haven't looked at the epilogue), but I reckon there's contradictory predictions out there for every single character there is. If one says X dies, another says X lives and one of them will be right. I have high hopes in JKR that this is going to be a great read, no matter who lives or dies!


Posted by TeeNa Jul 18th 2007

ah, I liked that fic so much :) I mean, FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER FIC SPOLIER Harry killing Voldie Moldie with Darco's wand... awwww


Posted by Dark_AleX Jul 18th 2007

MAD EYE DIES i'm in the 4th chapter rite now som1s made a pdf outta the images "Pirates Rule"......btw mad eye dies trying to rescue harry from the dursleys and lol dudley and harry kinda patch up.....and mrs and mr delacour come over to the burrow


Posted by randyw Jul 18th 2007

People keep asking why would somebody create a 700 plus page fake book. If you could write something that would fool many people into believing it is real, then a book company might look at other books you have written and publish something you wrote giving you the chance to be a sucsessful and rich writer. Some people have way to much time on there hands and would write something to cause confusion for people. We will not know truth till the book comes out.


Posted by Griselda Jul 18th 2007

The person(s) who created this did put in a lot of effort and they planned this for months imo. There are loads of nutters out there who would do this just for fun. The reason why I don't believe the real publishers are behind it is that there's a risk that too many people really fall for it and some of them might not buy the book any more. It's not just about the money they might lose, you'd also get people running around with a completely wrong idea about the story.


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Posted by LeeA Jul 18th 2007

FAKE! Consider two words from ealy in this jpg version: palpably and doppelganger. Those words just won't show up in a real HP story. Also, JK likes to use the word snarl, as in 'snarled Mr. Dursley' or 'Snape replied with a snarl' I didn't notice any snarls in this story, and I bet there are lots in the real version. It is supposed to be bad form to use speech tags like that, since you should be able to implie snarls from what is being said. Rowling's genius is to smash this 'rule' to pieces, using a great variety of them without interferring with the pace of the stories.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

If people are still convinced that this leaked copy is the real deal have a look at images of the dust jackets of the previous books. There is ALWAYS a synopsis/information on the inside flaps at the front and the back of the book. The pictures of the leaked book show the inside flap with cover art only and NO TEXT! Whatever is written inside, however it looks - there are too many issues/oddities/inconsist encies with this for it to be 100% genuine. I am absolutely sure of it.


Posted by hpgirl21053 Jul 18th 2007

some of the copies are true, but their are chapters in them that contradict the others... the zendurl copy is TOTALLY fake..


Posted by HarryandGinnyforlife Jul 18th 2007

Thanks you guys. =) I was so depressed and literally crying because I thought the spoilers had completely ruined the book for me, but after reading about all the inconsistencies and grammatical errors, I'm starting to believe more and more that it's a fake made up by some idiot with way too much time on his hands. I was freaked out because people kept posting the same spoilers where I least expected them, and thought if that many people are saying it, it must be true. Then after a little bit of calming down, I realized they probably all just read the fake book. As for the idiots who keep posting spoilers in crude, all capital letters: SHUT UP! I don't want anyone else going through what I went through, thinking the book was completely spoiled. You either need to get a life, or go hang out with your likely equally pathetic friends and brag about how you spoiled the book for hundreds of people.


Posted by Raven_Claw_Babe Jul 18th 2007

Some peopel JUST have to spoil everybody's fun! Why do people want to terrorize us by posting spoilers?? *wails*


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

well it's not the real book because i have never in a harry potter book heard someone say the following *its not a spoiler* "thats my daughter you fu*#ing bit%#. i'm sorry rowling wouldnt put that in her book so its not the real thing i read about 10 pages and i new it wasnt real its not her writing style or anything/


Posted by cliffy22 Jul 18th 2007

i haven't been on my cpu in 2 days i'm not in the know... do we all agree this is fake? if so can you post something like FAKE!!! plz.


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

yeah i'll post something fake hang on real quick. in the 2nd chapter harry yells "LIES ALL LIES" and he sees dumbledores eyes in a mirrior. fake. sorry these people were dumb to post this thing it is not real


Posted by jeremullens Jul 18th 2007

I would be suprised if it were real. JK has a writing style that has stayed very consistant throughout all her books. I have read the supposed leak, and even though the story is good... I will be disapointed if it is real. The book moves FAR too fast, and there is little description about the enviroments. JK has a way of making it feel like one is there, in person, watching and listening. This book just assumes that the reader knows all the descriptions and jumps to the story... not JK's writing style at all. IF it is real, I would be a bit disapointed because she has strayed in her set up and execution. Only a couple days till we know for sure!


Posted by cliffy22 Jul 18th 2007

lol this is the same thing that the people who created the 'PILLAR OF STORGE' crap or watever, just a bunch of B.S.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

Glad you feel better HarryandGinnyforlife ;) bushmaster019 - that is really shocking. JKR never uses swearing in the books. She says something like 'he swore very badly'. I know JKR never 100% intended for them to be books for children, and they are getting darker each time, but Jo is always careful to portray death or anger or lust in a very careful and tasteful way. There is never anything gratuitous, it is usually implied in a way that adult readers can interpret for themselves.


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

i tottally agree dont even read it it is way to stupid. so those of u worried that its real its not 3 reasons y #1 the books r almost impposible to get their hands on untill midnight on friday #2 the writing style is horrible it looks like a 3rd grader wrote it, and finally harry potter is a kid book theres a little cussing but if its really bad she'll say something like this "ron said something that harry knew he would never say in front of mrs weasley" 4th book in the woods.


Posted by hpgirl21053 Jul 18th 2007

yeah, emerson said on nytimes that some look authentic, but that the ending contradicts the rest, so no one knows what is real and what is fake....i just hope some of the stuff i heard is fake, but if it isn't i would be fine too


Posted by Lord_Voltmorph Jul 18th 2007

This just pisses me off. I mean, to attempt to spoil this for everyone, it's just not worth it. And when he's caught, we are talking a HUGE lawsuit. Luckily I've not read any of the spoilers, and I give my sympathy to any who have.


Posted by Plim Jul 18th 2007

Regarding whether the leaked text is in fact a hoax -- I have not read it or seen it, but someone who posted above said that the jacket contains no text. I don't know if this refers to the full "leaked" copy, but unless I am mistaken, the publishers already released the text to appear on the jacket ( http://www.bloomsbury.com /media/hp7childrens_high_ complete.jpg ). Could someone confirm that A. The fully leaked copy has a jacket with no text and B. The publishers in fact did release the text of the jacket. If this can be shown, it would be evidence against someone getting the copy early and posting images, because there would be no reason to switch to or forge a jacket with no text.


Posted by performingmonkey Jul 18th 2007

The Epilogue is fake, the scans of the whole book are real. That is all. Sadly, some of DH feels rushed as though Jo just wanted to get through it. Ron is almost like a different character, being too cocky and confident in front of Hermione. Harry and Lupin's argument feels a little forced. They still have the wedding and are happy when Moody has just been killed by Voldemort and George has lost his ear! With Moody dead they would have all gone into hiding. Kreacher's tale is bang on correct though. This is Jo, but not as we know her. She's changed her style a little.


Posted by Loutre Jul 18th 2007

It's the library copy, which would explain away the jacket text not being there.


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

gj197 dude i tottally 100% agree with you here is wat the person said in the book "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BIT#%" she would never say something like that and emerson this just proves that the new harry potter book is 100% safe untill friday night so everyone dont worry its not real.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

Hi Plim - I have a full copy of the leaked book and it is the US Scholastic version rather than the Bloomsbury UK version. Bloomsbury have indeed allowed images of the cover including the text to hit the internet, but as far as I can see, the same cannot be said for the US version. The US versions of all other HP books have the same sort of set up i.e. plain hard back in two colours e.g. black spine, green cover. On top of this is the dust sheet containing the full artwork by Mary GrandPre. On the inside dust sheet flaps at the front and the back there is a synopsis/other text. THE LEAKED VERSION DOES NOT HAVE THIS. If someone had a genuine copy of this book that they had somehow stolen or borrowed to photograph it would be the same version that is available at midnight Friday. They would not substitute it for a fake cover. If you want to check search in google.com images under 'Deathly Hallows cover' - it will show the UK version with text, and the US versions without.


Posted by Fairydust Jul 18th 2007

I wouldn't be surprised if all the publishers bought the rights to some fan fics and made it easier to steal these. By doing this, they do have the right to prosecute the offenders, while keeping the actual storyline a secret. I know of someone who read the entire thing and decided that it did not at all sound like JKR's writing style, which has basically been consistent over 6 books. Why would she change it now?


Posted by Plim Jul 18th 2007

That was my thought as well, but two questions -- 1. Just to be absolutely sure do you mean the fully 700+ page "leaked" version that everyone's talking about (not one of the shorter leaks). 2. Can anyone address Loutre's comment that a library copy would in some way mean that the cover would not have text (or in some other way make our reasoning wrong)? I haven't seen the "leaked" version -- can you confirm that it HAS a jacket cover WITHOUT text, or does it have no jacket cover at all?


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

dude you'all gotta admit this guy put in a whole lot of work for nothing he made it up its not her writing and he's not getting any money so he screwed himself and once they find him he's gonna LOSE money so yeah. i cant WAIT 2 days.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

performingmonkey - no offence intended but exactly how can you say that this is real? I know I am saying that I THINK it is a hoax, but there's no way you OR I actually know. Plus there are plenty of inconsistencies to suggest that it is fake e.g. calling Herminone 'Miss Hermione Jean Granger' when she is actually Hermione Jane Granger. Loutre - the library copy would still have the same dust jacket though wouldn't it? I would assume that it would just be covered with plastic or laminate. That's how it works in the UK, but I could be wrong about the US?!


Posted by Gryffinclaw Jul 18th 2007

gj197 is right the jacket would be the same jacket we're all gonna get on firday, just covered in plastic


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

you guys just stop worring about it we've read the security measures they've pput on this book there no way someone could get their hands on this book. the guy in question decided it would be funny and besides the book is 784 pages not 754 the book that he posted only had 754 so its not real.


Posted by gj197 Jul 18th 2007

Plim - yes I have seen the full 759 page leak and yes it does show the inside of the back cover with a dust jacket flap showing no text. In fact, more than that, it actually has a big line down it where it looks like 2 images have been composited together and the colour on each side of the line is slightly different. Also it stuck on with sellotape. To me it looks like someone has downloaded the published cover art (with no text), enlarged it and made it look like a dust jacket. You never actually get to see the dust jacket, just the flaps that are folded around the hard cover.


Posted by dead_d0lli Jul 18th 2007

I just wanted to warn everyone DO NOT CLICK LINKS YOU ARE NOT SURE OF UNTIL THE BOOK IS RELEASED. I unfortunately didn't know about this leak, until I clicked on a link someone gave me, and it gave me all the information about what happens in the last book, at first I thought it was a fake, but then I clicked a link underneath and it showed the scanned pages of the book, and the extact artwork that is used in the real books. Also, be careful what forums you look at, they are posted all over forums, and torrent sites. :( I hate people who ruin it for everyone. I wish that I never clicked that link >.


Posted by Nimbuschick Jul 18th 2007

Temporarily? How about forever for doing something illegal. I wonder if these were real or just subpeonaed because it used liscenced Harry Potter names and characters.


Posted by HarryandGinnyforlife Jul 18th 2007

"well it's not the real book because i have never in a harry potter book heard someone say the following *its not a spoiler* "thats my daughter you fu*#ing bit%#. i'm sorry rowling wouldnt put that in her book so its not the real thing i read about 10 pages and i new it wasnt real its not her writing style or anything/" I agree, JK would NEVER put that in one of her books. Yes, maybe the word "darn" every now and then, but not what you mentioned. I'm starting to believe more and more that this is fake. Thanks guys! Now I'll be able to enjoy my book along with the rest of you. =) And I hope the idiot who wrote those fakes goes to prison for a long, LONG time.


Posted by Gryffinclaw Jul 18th 2007

wheres a dementor when you need one?


Posted by MissMalfoy Jul 18th 2007

its most likely that the guy subpeonaed because he committed a copyright infringement, just by using the Harry Potter copyright. simple. :) not because the spoilers are real.


Posted by ladykrystyna Jul 18th 2007

Okay, I read about 20 chapters of the book that purports to be DH. A lot of you have already confirmed what I started to suspect - the writing style is off, I remember seeing Hermione Jean Granger, instead of "Jane". But one thing that I noticed from the beginning - you could not see any of the synopsis on the inside front cover. Just to make sure that that was something you could actually see as you opened the book and got further and further in, I took out HBP, which is just a bit smaller and experimented. Well, the only way that you can't see them is if you push it down, almost breaking the binding, otherwise, you should see something. And none of the pictures looks likes the person is pushing it down that hard, in fact most times, it looks like it's only mostly opened and difficult to read. Plus, I noticed that some pages were hard to read because the letters seemed pixalized (or something like that). Last night I first read the article on MTV that brought up that very point. Most importantly, by Chapter 20, I was getting bored - the story was going nowhere and it was turning into "old home week" in Potterville. How many more characters were going to show up and how many more minor characters were going to suddenly become the crux of the whole thing! And the background story stuff was unbelievable really and too convenient, too contrived. The trio sometimes felt OOC. I don't know if Scholastic is behind it, or it's just a big hoax from a fan, but I don't think it's real and, in any event, we'll figure it all out in just a couple of days.


Posted by moonshine Jul 18th 2007

ive decided not to get online as much as i used to. i really dont want to see any spoilers so im going to be more careful about when i get online. once ive finished the book ill get online as much as i usually do. bye!^_^


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

yeah really suck the soul out of that guy come on now people r just stupid sometimes y (not you gryffinclaw) would u release a fake harry potter book its all publicity this is going to be the biggest book release in the world.


Posted by Gryffinclaw Jul 18th 2007

i give the guy credit throw away his at least a month of his life writing his own fanfic version, and the going all out to try and convince people, but hes not to bright on account that he'll have a hefty lawsuit for copyright infringment. oh well hope the guy had fun. and people its not real so remember only 2 days!


Posted by bushmaster019 Jul 18th 2007

so you'all lets move on we need theories. who gets together and who dies?


Posted by moonshine Jul 18th 2007

ok someone please help me here! are any of the spoilers real? which ones are fake? everyone keeps talking about it and all these different people keep saying they are real then everyone says they are fake! whats going on?


Posted by Gryffinclaw Jul 18th 2007

heres one i thought of after rrereading HBP, in the 2nd chap, Bella seems to not have as great a realationship with Voldy. then later DD tells harry that Voldy never had or ever will have friends, and some DE claim to be close even the best but Voldy is a loner. So i think that Bella might know of a horcrux and after being emotionally hurt by Tom she'll turn and some how help the trio find and destroy a horcrux. Plausible?




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