well, nytimes is gonna be sued anyway for coming out with a review early, along with other newspapers, since they weren't supposed to until after the book came out..and to the page numbers for the last US version books, they started with V1, and so on, so basically the other pages don't count up to the total number of the story, so basically, again, nytimes has lost its credibility.

Yoshi, thanks yeh ya prob rite i didnt think of that but i new that for e.g syd would get it same time as perth but i didnt no that america was only 9 hrs behind us but thanks for clearin that up for me i gues it is fair that we all get it at the same time

also dont call me a hypocrite, i h8 spoilers, what ive heard about the Dhs is what i believe bcause they have the ACTUAL book, not the internet 1.

please dont post anything... sure, go ahead and read them yourself, but really......whats the point in telling the whole world???! i agree with siriuslovegirl...all the people posting spoilers are just jerks

Folks - if you are a REAL Harry Potter fan then you won't ask for details nor will you want them. Please realize that so much of the fun of these books is reading them yourself and the anticipation of what is going to happen. That is why it is so hard when you are done with a book. Enjoy these last few days of that anticipation. Enjoy these last few moments of not knowing. Soon the whole story will be known and we will be left with rereading the series as our only solace.

still crying...sniff...look up the file on bit torrent...oh god...this book is amazing...two brothers and a sister..thats all im saying.

this sucks. i wish ppl would get their darn motherf**king selves together. (especially the book stores). my cousin just emailed me and told me what happens in the book. GREAT!!!!!!!!! as much as im trying not to believe the spoilers it sounds fairly accurate to what i thought would happen. im sooo angry. and depressed. *sigh* whatever. ill still cry at the end like i was planning to hopefully.

i just got online on my microsoft messenger and my nick was Harry Potter Spoiler: and then all the information on the zendurl bullet points... NEEDLESS TO SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT MAD By the way....i didnt knew where to get the spoilers until i read it here.

IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED THEN GET OFF THE INTERNET ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!!!! stop complaining about reading spoilers, MUgglenet has a warning in red rite ABOVE THE COMMENTS that says that they could be possible spoilers in the comments! SO JUST DONT READ IT?? Or just go download the book if you dont want to be spoiled! I hope no Harry Potter Fan is spoiled!

rubys007...is the book really that sad? omg im so excited!! i love sad books and crying over them i dont know why...thanks for not giving any spoilers by the way! and i totally agree with trixieone...the last few days are so much fun when you havent read the book because there is so much anticipation and last minute theories going on...dont ruin the fun for people (like me) who would rather wait and find out on the REAL release date...k well thats all i got to say lol im gunna stop posting comments now

r the spoilers at zendurl real or not ????????

jjroka, no problem on clearing it up, London is only 9 hours behind you but America is 12 hours I believe.

I just read the Baltimore Sun review. I'm not going to say anything, but if you are like and LOVE little tantalizing spoilers but not MAJOR plot points, then you should read the review, it has kind of satiated my thirst for the moment, without me reading any pages of the book. It does say what the Deathly Hallows are though. And the reviewer says she got the book-book, not a scanned copy (though they are probably the same).

Yoshi, no affence but i did some research an u wer rong for e.g in sydney itd be 2200 (10pm) n in new york itd be about 700 ( 7am) i cheked on an atlas so im 99.9 % sure its correct but if im rong ohwell atleast the book it in a day an abit

hpgirl21053, unless I am mistaken, the page count for OoTP was also reported by the publisher to be several pages more than the last actual page number printed on the final page. In fact, I have just checked. The Chamber of Secrets paperback is listed by Amazon.com as being 352 pages. The last page number is 341. It just so happens that when you count all the extra pages, they total 11, making 352. So, if there are 25 extra pages in the Hardcover edition of Deathly Hallows (not an out of the question number), then 759 could indeed be the last numbered page.

The Radio DJ on WBEZ 91.5 just spoiled ALL AUDIENCE WHO WAS LISTENING on who will be killed on HP7 he mentioned this site..

Please, someone who read the book for real or seen the real scans. tell me if the epilogue that was going around the internet is false or true. I can't take it anymore. Please.

rubys07....two brothers and a sister. Ok, you really need to stop right there. i mean i think all these teary comments you've been leaving have had the desired effect (you've gotten attention, and been able to spill a little bit about what you read)...now please stop. if someone wants to read the spoilers, they can. But it would be nice if we didn't have to read another "omg it's so sad...i can't stop crying" post every 5 mins. the end.

I hope that whoever has released the book gets what they deserve...a jail sentence and a hefty fine.

well get this. I wa listening to the radio last night and they were giving away as a prize, the new book. How the heck did they get copies AND how dare them to think it is alright to give these books before the 21st. Don't they realize people can be spoiling the end for us!!!!???

I don't know the difference in Sydney, I'm in Perth myself so I know that Perth is 7 hours ahead of London. I think you can look up the release time for New York couldn't you?

wow i wonder why hasnt anybody posted anythingt anymore... it like all went quiet

hey lupin what was in that epilogue and i can tell u if its real or not...... Put spoiler warning over what u type lupin!!! just in case!

Maybe they can't get the prize UNTIL the 21st....

do you all know about the "susposed" epiloque that was leaked? i really hope it wasn't real, because my job is to make sure stuff like this is fake and to prove it. well somethings wrong wit the epilogue is that it has NO england talk or accents in it, its just american tongue. the other thing wrong wit it is that if u look closely at the last page where u see the end, it ends on 754, when the book ends at 784! my boss says its not enough to shut down the site...but does nyone know if scholastic has shut it down or if it's fake...cause i reallly think its fake! thanks, Gus

yoshi did see your 2nd comment im sry if my recent comment came of meen i thought it did thats why i put in the no affence any ways i cant beleive to make the time go away im lookin up time differences on an atlas lmao i cant wate for the book muggle net is awesome i agree wif velvet sun rubys07 even though no1 could figure out anyhtin from ur comment plz stop i like lookink at small non plot giving away spiolers but not many others do please and this is to everyone dont post spoilers small or majour spoilers its not fair to those who hav any morals

thesilentcat i think that was real!! was it a picture!

If I got it early, I would read every chapter exept the last 5 (main spoilers are in the last 5 chaps), then at midnight on Friday, I would read the last 5, oh, the spoilers from www.zendurl.com/hallows are just predictions/rumors, some are true, some arent, we'll just have to wait ans see...

thesilentcat there are many reports that the epilogue just doesn't fit with the rest of the book, but then i'm hopelessly confused as to what is, if anything of this whole mess is actually real. I haven't read any of the leaked book(s), but have been given details by those who have. While there are certain aspects to the book that i like...there are MANY things in it that just don't stand up in my opinion. there are those that are swearing it's real, and some of them LOVE the ending, and others absolutely HATE it. In the end, when i pick up my copy on friday night, i will be one of the ones who flips to the back to see if the final sentence is the same as in the leaked versions.

ok..TO ALL AMERICAN POTTER RADERS, I LIVE IN CANADA AND WE RECIEVE THE BRITISH VERSIONS, AND I AM WONDERING, HOW IS THE PAGE COUNT IN AMERICAN EDITIONS....FOR EXAMPLE THE PAGE COUNT FOR HBP IS LISTED AT 652 PAGES, BUT WAT IS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF PAGES, FOR THE OTHER BOOKS AS WELL PLEASE, I ASK THIS IN REGARDS TO THAT EPILOGUE THAT IS LISTED AT ENDING ON PAGE 759

velvetsun you are right. I will stop posting. But the only reason I did was because so many f-heads are crapping on a book they havent read! saying they are disappointed with an epilogue they READ OUT OF CONTEXT. The book IS great. The epilogue is great. So f all the haters. they will eat their words come friday night. JKR wrote a great book. point finale

Finestella, u r completely right...and i susposed u took a peek too without regretting it later. Me and my co-workers are trying and looking hard at this epiloge u look and see if it is indeed fake. but we were in contact with scholastic, and they use computers to calculate how many pages are printed with the right amount of numbering on the bottom, otherwise the whole thing would be wrong and the book would be thrown out..after it was checked before packaged. i can tell all right now! that if u read the epilogue for one reason or anouther i am sure that it IS fake. the wrong numbering and wrong language almost proves it. When me and my workers are done and have proved it wrong i will post it in BIG.dont worry my fellow peekers it might not be true, u dont need to be guilty or regret it...but if im wrong forget wut you read and dont go back. I love Harry Potter and will do anything to stop wrong doers that try to spoil the books.

I think the big issue here is that it's an ending. Endings are *always* far more controversial and polarizing than beginnings or middles. Endings are just... well for instance, I am a person who always hates endings of books and films. I always feel as though more could have been done, or I see problems or ends that are left a bit too lose, or some other thing. I am positive that this is a trait that I share with many others. Another thing about endings, especially of series, is that they have to break the forumla. There is always a forumla of suspense and of mystery and whatnot throughout a series. There is always the one goal that has never been achieved - becaus of course, were it achieved, the series would have ended long ago. Endings force the forumla to be broken, the suspense and curiosity that so enchanted readers or viewers to be done away with, and that final goal to be put forever in the rearview mirror. I don't think JKR could have written *anything* that wouldn't have just about split folks down the middle.

Cant the comments be closed already? it sucks that people are trying to ruin everything for the fans who want to be surprised... if we want to read spoilers, we will look for them, don't ruin it for us!

Thesilentcat------------- --------------I have to disagree with you about the page count. Upon doing some research, I've found that all those "extra pages" (dedications, TOC, blank pages, about the author, etc.) count toward the grand page total as well. For instance, see the paperback edition of Chamber of Secrets; it has an offical page count of 752, which turns out to be 741 numbered pages and 11 extras. Similar things hold true for the other books. If someone has a copy of the scanned book, they need only count up how many extra pages they are. If there are 25, then this would be, in my mind, rather strong evidence that it is real.____________________ _________________________ _________________________ On top of this, from what I understand, the reviews in the New York Times and Baltimore Sun agree with the scanned book. Both sources claim to have reviewed a hard copy - a physical copy of the book sold early.

i agree with lazerlike, its not the ending but endings in general.

velvetsun , i will too i will hope the last word in that leaked copy....is not the last word in the real copy..the last word in the WHOLE series..which i think its not...cause thats a bad word to end with. thanks for your opinion though, u nd i and the rest who share our opinions are REAL potter fans, but im not saying others are not. Xceptional, it is now a picture and a manuscript. my co-workers are working on language and i work on appearance to make sure its untrue. I think it is not real but fake but im not always right.

does anyone know a chool or a curse where i can actually learn or practice magic?

a school of show magic? no.

*NO SPOILERS* So. I downloaded the PDF that has photographs of every page in the book and I read it last night. If you accidentally read something that someone claims is a detail of DH7, just remember that *you don't know*. I've read some of the sites claiming to be spoilers and most of them have a wide blend of made up stuff and some real stuff. The point is that until you actually sit down and go through the experience of reading the book yourself, you won't know how it ends and how Rowling resolves the fates of the characters. Which means that as long as you keep the right perspective, there are no spoilers possible! Some of these jerks are just trying to make you feel bad. Don't let 'em. Just remember that you won't KNOW until you know, and until you read it with your own eyes, any claim could be a falsehood. Anyone posting spoilers won't take away the experience that you will get from reading it yourself and finding out how she ties everything up. I mean, heck, for all I know the digital book I read could be a total fake (it looks real, and I don't know how someone could have faked the typesetting and illustrations, but it is theoretically possible). And if it is a total fake I don't care because it was definitely a fantastic and marvelous reading experience. Oh, and just in case you're worried -- yes, I did download and read the copy, but mine is still on the way this weekend and I'll be re-reading it -- I didn't use this as an excuse to not buy a copy of the book.

Lazerlike42 i have learned the writing of the book ends on page 784 no 754.. i would know since my job is to prove these things wrong....all hardbacks the page numbers u see online is from beginning of story to the end of the story....thus the page the last word of the story is on should be 784

i agree with ravenclaw07 completely... i mean in this week i have downloaded DH "books" and read them. but i obviously knew they were not realy and lets say its the fact that it was writting on microsoft word. but still, its really fuin because these fans work hard on what THEY think how the book goes. im just saying it here..... reavenclaw has apreety good point

THESILENTCAT HOW SURE OF THIS ARE YOU, BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN THAT MEANS THAT THE SCANS ARE ALL FAKE CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THIS AMERICAN PAGE COUNT DEBATE WE ARE HAVING

Thesilentcat------------- ------take a look at the last page in your hardback of OoTP, if you have one. The last page number in the story is 870. The book was reported as having 896 pages. Amazon.com still lists this number for the page total. I just counted all the dedications, blank pages, about the author pages etc., and their were 26 of them. 870+26=896. I have to say that I am positive you are mistaken, but if what you say is true, then it is a different practice from all of the past editions, soft and harcover.

when the book finally arrives, many of you will be here posting, page after page, chapter after chapter. and who will finish the book first?

i think i spoiled myself, by reading reviews that said: we won't tell u....but i deserve it, and i am glad i still don't know alot...but still....oh well, i think because i found the ending to the last book early, i think i just tested my luck to much....i could scream at myself...tears are seriously running down my face....i hope some of the stuff i heard isn't true...i think i HATE newspapers now!!!

Mirdala (on the first page) First off, its RIDICULOUS that all this happened. :P okay anyways, so it IS a big deal to HP fans what is going on, they do not want spoilers going off everywhere! and spoilers DO ruin the expierence! what kind of HP fan are you? that is why MuggleNet is here! for people to be updated and especially during these last few moments before Harry Potter is over. And your sitting there saying "Stay off the interenet if you dont want spoilers" and I do not think that people dont like spoilers because they are "jealous they didnt get to read it first" or whatever you meant by that. your comment was ... well... i didnt like it :P

Well Lazerlike, did u post the scanned pages because you seem to WANT it to be true. It's not, its my job to do this. And yes i beilieve u are the mistaken one...but we will all be sure on saturday morning *MIDNIGHT*....but im sure these scans are fakes just like the other ones...thanks

The page with the last word on it ends on Page 759

when the book arrives you will be like> ohh my god its an "A" and a "e" ohh my god!! it spells AE, it was truee , everythng i read on the internet was true!! now everything's Ruined! lemme post lemme post i gotta post this, and tell my harry potter mates at mugglenet what i think! yeah. lets keep reading.... ohh now its an "U" ohh my ohh my....and you will be like lemme post again....