MuggleCast #100/101: The Big One/Streaming Spoilers
MuggleCast #100/101: The Big One/Streaming Spoilers It's a double dose of our Harry Potter podcast this week as we release two new episodes!

Episode 100: Our centennial show LIVE from Waterstones in London! Join Jamie, Laura, Eric, Kevin and me for our biggest live podcast ever with over 800 fans in attendance just a few hours before the release of Deathly Hallows. We discuss the movie, what will happen to the fandom after the book is released, take some last-minute DH theories, and much more.

Episode 101: RIGHT after we finished reading Deathly Hallows, we hosted a live show online where over 1,000 listeners tuned in to hear the very first talk on this subject! Join the same panel from Episode 100 as we take listener reviews, questions, and much more - all concerning what happened in Deathly Hallows.

Both shows promise to entertain and inform in two audio files. To download, we recommend subscribing for free within iTunes. That way, each new episode will automatically be sent to your computer. If you're already subscribed, load up iTunes and update your MuggleCast feed. You can also find full shownotes and alternate download links on the MuggleCast website. ENJOY!

REMINDER: MuggleCast will be hitting the road tomorrow (Wednesday) for the first stop on our post-Deathly Hallows summer tour in sunny Las Vegas, Nevada. Come out and see us at the Whitney Library at 7 PM!
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Posted by Odwalla Jul 22nd 2007

rockbox: Harry and Voldy are descendents of the peverals (sp) Voldy from the 2nd Pever Harry from the 3rd Pever.


Posted by Travis Jul 22nd 2007

It was Amazing!!! My favorite for sure. I was amazed at how much of it matched various theories I've read and heard online. The Gringotts bit, everything with RAB and Kreacher, Snape and Lily, Ravenclaw's Tiarra being the one in the Room of Requirements (it still amazes me that people managed to figure that one out), and the Harry is a Horcrux theories. I was very proud of myself for my own theories about Harry dying and coming back. Great job to everyone though. One possible flaw in the plot: I'm pretty sure that muggle-borns were not supposed to be allowed back at Hogwarts, meaning that Colin Creevy should not have boon there at all. As for wrapping things up. I think that people wanted to know too much, so there's no way that she could have possibly wrapped it all up. Also, something like what adult Harry does for a job might be better left open-ended rather than told to the reader.


Posted by sgwilliamson Jul 22nd 2007

peverell - I am so dense, never noticed that about the dedication. I was like, why is the writing all scattered? ****** rockbox122 - they are both descendants of the 3 brothers who met Death in the story, Grandpa Marvolo had the peverell family ring and Harry had the cloak from his dad.


Posted by perevell Jul 22nd 2007

No problem slb643 :D We can assume that Voldemort and Harry are related because they are both descendants of the three Perevell brothers. Voldemort would be from the second one considering his family had the Resurrection Stone (ring) and Marvolo said they were related. Harry from the third brother who had the cloak who is Ignotus according to Dumbledore.


Posted by Miliii Jul 22nd 2007

MrsRoXtarPotter: Yeah I just need to talk! I miss Fred so much, it was awful to read that :( I cried lots!


Posted by Ginnys_so_lucky Jul 22nd 2007

i LOOOOOOOVED this book i thought the ending was amazing i havent had that many emotions from a book before and this i had MANY GASPES i was shoked its sucks for some of the people that did die but they will always be rememberd i loove that ginny and harry got together and ron and hermione it was the best book i think


Posted by Bohemian_Moon Jul 22nd 2007

rockbox122: Harry is the descendant of the Third Peverell brother, Ignotus. In HBP, when Harry and Dumbledore go back though Ogden's memories, Marvolo Gaunt shows Ogden the Ring and declares that this is basically the family heirloom, the ring with the Peverell coat of arms. According to the Tale of the three brothers, and as we later find out, the cracked stone in that ring is actually the Resurrection stone, which was given to the Second Peverell brother. Therefore, Harry and Voldemort are descendants from the Peverells, but by hundreds, even thousands of years. And before anything else is said, this STILL doesn't make Harry a direct DESCENDANT of Salazar Slytherin, just a vastly distant Relative.


Posted by albuseveruspotter Jul 22nd 2007

sigh...rereading the book. at the part where harry faces death, but i don't wanna continue cuz this is THE PART, THE CLIMAX, THE GREATEST. And starting this part will mean ending it again. :(


Posted by iluvharry1017 Jul 22nd 2007

Miliii: I understand, Fred dying was so sad I mean think of poor George having to live without his twin. That was terrible that he had to die.


Posted by shana1998 Jul 22nd 2007

SNOOLO harry did publicly acknowledge the bravery and the role of snape. you have to remember that there were HUNDREDS of people and magical creatures in the great hall- the entire order, the entire dumbledore's army, the parents and the friends of the students that stayed behind, the entire weasley family, the ghosts, the portraits, the giants, the centaurs, the house elves, everyone was there (except the two-faced ministry folks and rita skeeter (missed out on a huge expose didn't she)). _______________________ ____ my potter tale: my cousin had checked out the third book from her library and she left it at my grandmother's house. i read everything except horror and one day i picked it up and starting reading it. i'm glad i started with the third one because jk's writing had gotten so much better by then. i'd recruited my then best friend and she's become a bigger potterphile than i am (film wise). _________________ __________ harry and voldemort are distantly related in that they share a common ancestor on the perverell (?) family tree. however i believe slytherin was on a different branch, the 2nd brother's line. harry is a descendent of the 3rd brother. so obviously the brothers share a parent(s) and that would make harry and vol really distant cousins. remember all purebloods are related and harry's father and vol's mother were purebloods.


Posted by sgwilliamson Jul 22nd 2007

rock, I'm also sgwilliamson on myspace IM. Travis, excellent point, but I'm confused as well. On one hand, supposedly muggleborns weren't recognized by the ministry. On the other, all magical children HAD to to go Hogwarts. Did the ministry alter the process for sending those 11th birthday letters? And for the record, I don't think Harry would still want to be an Auror. I think he's done his share of that line of work, and would explore other options. My biggest wish is that he returned to school and the the trio graduated with Ginny.


Posted by MrsRoXtarPotter Jul 22nd 2007

Bohemian_Moon: very cute! when i was 8, i was attending the wedding of my frend who first introduced me to the books about 2 years previousy! Now that I think of it... I really can't belive i read them so young! this is crazy/....... but true.... never thought of it before... creepy..... lol................ Miliii: I CAN'T BELIVE FRED DIED!!! *cries* he and george I needed to stay alive!!!!!! *cries* it's just as bad as killing one of a couple... omg..... i cant stand it.....


Posted by albuseveruspotter Jul 22nd 2007

sigh. rereading the book and i've now got to the part where harry walks, alone, solitary, to let voldemort kill him. i don't wanna read this part because this is IT and starting it again will also mean ending it again. sign


Posted by MeanaMoiana Jul 22nd 2007

did anyone notice the dates on Harry's parents graves? that means harry was born in 1980...


Posted by jkmonkey28 Jul 22nd 2007

Ted Tonks is Muggle born not a muggle. It is in OotP in the Black Family tree part Andromeda was burn off for getting married to a Muggle born. I would give you a page number but my mother is currently reading the book. Just as Hermione is Muggle born.


Posted by SCPGOH_ad24 Jul 22nd 2007

I LOVEEEEDDDD ITTTT!!!!! it was so great, and i'm so happy to see that the majority of the fans loved it as well. favorite parts: Snape telling Harry to "look at me" the prince's tail hermione kissing ron molly weasly screaming at bellatrix harry talking to voldermort right before he killed him i always said that i'd be okay if harry lived or if harry died. if harry died though, i really wanted him to re-unite with his parents and sirius. and he kinda did...and he also lived...so i can actually say: I GOT MY CAKE AND GOT TO EAT IT TOO!!!! lol. i understand why people may not be happy with the epilouge...but i LOVED it... because all harry has ever wanted is a 'normal' life...and he really did get it...which makes me soooooooo happy!!!!!!! I cannot thank JK Rowling enough for making this world a huge part of mine for the last 7 years. I love youuuuu!


Posted by iluvharry1017 Jul 22nd 2007

Mrs.RoXtarPotter: cute story, I was also 8 when I was introduced to Harry, seven years later...wow time flies.


Posted by chudley_cannons Jul 22nd 2007

All I can say is Awsome....But I ask for a moment of silence for Mad-eye, Dobby, Fred, Lupin and Tonks. I had my copy of Mugglenet Book 7 and I had two questions I'd liked to have answered to me (dscherer@purdue.edu) Where in Chapter 14 was the odds for Mad-eye? and on that note... 100-1?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all I can say... And what was the epilouge is foretelling Jo's next plan's?


Posted by snoolo Jul 22nd 2007

sgwilliamson- I also cried when sirius passed and he was such a big part of the books that i thought he would come back DH somehow...so i guess the reason that sirius had to die is that if he were alive he would have stopped harry walking into battle ready to sacrifice himself..harry had to be alone to do that. Snape was alone...he had to endure everything alone...living in spinners end in that awful house with horrible memories...and then die alone..and when he died he still thought that Harry was like "a pig to the slaughter" and that his protection of Harry had been in vain...that is also very sad.... and to everyone who was upset that harry didn't take care of Teddy Lupin...don't you think that 17 is too young for harry to give up everything and care for this baby? Mrs Tonks was still there so it should and was her responsibility. Does it say anywhere what Harry's son James' middle name is? I hope to heaven it's Sirius...Sirius deserves a namesake. And Lily's middle name should be Remus...it's androgynous enough!


Posted by Miliii Jul 22nd 2007

Yes, I agree, it was awful that Fred had to die, but I guess JK HAD to kind of kill off important characters, given that she didn't kill anyone from the Trio, and I bet she'll get criticism for making it too soft. Bohemian_Moon or just, anyone: ABOUT that, and excuse me if this is a stupid question (my first language is NOT english, and I kind of hurried my reading towards the end of the book) but do they ever mention the fact that both Voldemort and Harry are descendants of the Peverells? meaning they are related? I mean, was that understood? I don't recall.


Posted by perevell Jul 22nd 2007

Dumbledore says that he is related to the third brother. And in HBP Gaunt says that he is related to them (probably the second). Teddy is named after Remus though. So I'm not sure what Lily's middle name would be..maybe Hermione or....Petunia?? I highly doubt the latter


Posted by albuseveruspotter Jul 22nd 2007

i wish that harry would have taken the 3 hallows. he deserved them and unlike dumbledore, his soul would not hve been spoiled by them


Posted by snoolo Jul 22nd 2007

Lily's middle name could also be Molly..who saved Ginny... Shana1998- I get that Harry said that speechy thing in front of everyone...but it wasn't a like thank you Snape for protecting me all these years...i Know snape is dead but i am talking about some sort of thanking Snape for what he has had to sacrifice...and maybe he did but JK didn't write it...but i just want some justice:) So many lives lost and harry just wants to talk to ron and hermione...i just think a little reflection more reflection about what snape had to endure for him. oh and does anyone know who got the reprieve??? i personally think it's hagrid...not sure


Posted by Miliii Jul 22nd 2007

AND it seemed so obvious to everyone (meaning JK, lol, and probably everyone here) what came out of Snape. Yet I could not figure it out.


Posted by MrsRoXtarPotter Jul 22nd 2007

Miliii: I luv all the characters dearly.... really i do!!!! but if you had to kill a weasley.... not fred george or ron........... *cries* fred!!! fred!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *sobbs*


Posted by hottfaja Jul 22nd 2007

Weren't the veil and the locked door supposed to be revisited? Or was the whole Harry-Dumbledore-post death discussion revealing what lies beyond death, aka the veil? overall, awsome...enough said. JK rowling is a king King among Serfs in the writing world.


Posted by sgwilliamson Jul 22nd 2007

I think Teddy's middle name is Sirius, too, and Mrs Tonks raised him. It makes more sense for him to be raised by family. Milii - no one ever said, Harry, you share an ancestor with Voldemort. But he does, if you take info from HBP and put it with this info in DH.


Posted by longlostphoenix07 Jul 22nd 2007

well i pretty much sobbed all for snape at the end of the book. i can't believe he was childhood friends with lily!!!!!!!!! but i still cried and cried and cried for him. i'll never be able to hate him again!!!!!!! but yeah, and to MIIIII, they never mention that they're relatives but you kind of have to infer that for yourself. oh yeah best parts of the book: molly weasley vs. bellatrix lestrange, kreacher sobbing over the locket, "holey, get it?", and snape's final words. the only thing that i didn't like was i thought petunia was going to directly tell harry stuff---wait, WHO WAS THE UNEXPECTED MAGICIAN?!?!?!?! i just realized i don't remember anyone doing magic late in life!!!!! and who here thinks that victoire was bill/fleur's daughter? she has a french name...


Posted by phoenixknight Jul 22nd 2007

DEATHLY HALLOWS IS THE ULTIMATE HARRY POTTER BOOK!


Posted by shana1998 Jul 22nd 2007

the parts that really got me were: (1) when dudley let on to harry that he actually cared about him (you bring your own personal history to situations and being a child without a father and feeling the oddball out when my mother remarried it just made this part really emotional for me) (2) the burying of dobby (3) when harry realized that he was meant to die had my eyes swimming in tears but they didn't fall until he spoke to the "ghosts" of his loved ones and asked if dying hurt and then we he asked if they- especially his mother- will walk with him. i'm crying now just thinking about it. the love of a parent is really powerful stuff and when you crave it...i'm an adult now but i really can empathize and understand. anyhoo, i cried all the way up to the whole neville/nagini scene and then i was just sitting on the edge of my seat, mentally cheering harry on in the harry/vol face-off. i loved when he called him tom riddle. i wasn't really feeling the "b*tch" part of molly. i mean i kinda got where it came from but, as a writer myself, it just didn't seem necessary. other words would have worked, i think, more effectively. but i loved seeing molly with some gumption and bella biting it just like sirius. ___________ oh, and to the person who said luna died. she did not. she was one of the three girls fighting bella when molly arrived. it was luna, ginny, and hermione. molly told them to move away. then luna was the one, who at the end, told harry to go get some rest or something like that.


Posted by perevell Jul 22nd 2007

Yea Molly was like Harry's second mother. I know! From what I could tell it didn't seem like anyone really knew the sacrifice that Snape made..at least not Albus Jr because if so I don't think he would've been so worried about the sorting...even Dumbledore suggested that they sorted to early and Snape was brave like a Gryffindor. It's such a shame that he wasn't sorted with Lily... I dunno it didn't seem like Harry realized that Snape devoted his entire life to him basically IMO. But I don't think Snape did it for Harry really, I think he just did it for Lily and if Harry didn't have Lily's eyes that Snape probably wouldn't have done it because he would have just saw he's enemy Potter. And when he said 'Always' he was referring to loving Lily not Harry. Though I think he came to care for Harry somewhat.


Posted by sgwilliamson Jul 22nd 2007

Yeah so, I meant I think JAMES' middle name is Sirius. Obviously it's time for me to go to bed. Thanks for the chat, everyone!


Posted by longlostphoenix07 Jul 22nd 2007

yup, i just checked it. Remus and Tonk's son is named Teddy Remus Lupin. =]


Posted by MrsRoXtarPotter Jul 22nd 2007

ok, who can help me? who can teach tell me where to find episode 101??? and I can't stand it! I luv the book but im crying again bc i realize how sad it was!! why fred?!!!!!!! I think James's middle name is sirius, and Lily's middle name is Ginerva.


Posted by rockbox122 Jul 22nd 2007

I'm glad we found out why his eyes were so important?


Posted by snoolo Jul 22nd 2007

does anyone know the significance then of the cover of the american version of DH??? I still don't get what they're doing or looking at.-----wasn't harry willing to die for everyone just like Jesus Christ? Like he sacrificed himself to save others? it was very biblical to me...and like Snape is Judas who all despised but in the end was just following orders from the good side!!! I also think Ginny with her magical talent should have been more involved.


Posted by lippy_88 Jul 22nd 2007

I never thought she would kill fred :( i was shocked when the deaths startd straight off the bat...i cried like a baby wen dobby died and then they kept kmg..i felt drained by the time i got to the last few chapters and found myself re reading the deaths of fred, snape and thought id misread wen she wrote of tonks and lupins bodies!! and little colin creevey was one too many!! it was hard to read through the tears!!! and someone asked hu raised teddy: that would have been tonks's mother hu survived and looked after him wen tonks came to join the last fight..i found the epilogue quite strange and a bit hard to digest initially but upon reflection, im quite happy about forming my own thoughts on how many characters ended up... i looove the lil boy albus already :) and i have been an avid supporter of snape and was crushed and physically sore when his character was exposed and he was no more :( :( and to hear him admonish nigellus use "mudblood"!! aarrghhh i was very emotional haha nicely done with draco also i warmed somewhat to his family i must admit. wicked book, and now i cant wait to see the final movies!!!!!!! time for a re read i think :P


Posted by snoolo Jul 22nd 2007

i loved it when snape told nigellus not to use Mudblood. and i agree PEREVELL that Harry mustn't have really told his kids the story of what happened to him and everyone ...and what snape had done for him...which is a shame. and i definately think, even though it was never said, that snape definately warmed to harry...he always remembered that Harry was a part of Lily....and he always wanted a connection to her. We can only hope JK will be willing to answer a lot of burning questions


Posted by apolloslyre Jul 22nd 2007

I'm finding the fact that it's over a lot harder to deal with the second day. Been crying a lot....:(. I can't believe it's really over. Anyone else agree?


Posted by shana1998 Jul 22nd 2007

Victoire is Bill and Fleur's daughter. A marriage between Teddy (age 19)and Victoire (probably 16/17- I think she was in her last year) would make plant Teddy into the Weasley family and, consequently, into Harry's family since Ginny is a Weasley.________How horrible do you think Snape felt when he showed up at 12 Grimmauld and had to face that fake Dumbledore accusing him of killing him? And that just makes Harry calling him a coward at the end of book 6 all the more heart-wrenchingly wrong. I was a big Snape supporter because I saw the parallels of what he did to what Harry had to do (the potion he had to give to Dumbledore in order to get the fake locket). Snape was so misunderstood, but, then again, that was his own doing because he refused to let people find out otherwise. Just think, he could have possibly found love and had people love him instead of dying alone (staring into Lily's eyes). Goodness, the tears are really flowing now. Snape would not have given Harry ALL of those memories had he not been dying. They would have been too embarassing, too revealing. It was his "gift" I suppose or maybe kind of like a repentance on the brink of death kind of thing. This book has SOOOO much going on. Harry with his Jesus Christ parallel. The Holocaust/racism stuff. Acceptance of death. Redemption. Love. Loss. Just so much.


Posted by MrsRoXtarPotter Jul 22nd 2007

I think Mugglenet should make a mourning gathering/celebration.... .. where fans can cum together and unite at the end.


Posted by sirius_lee Jul 22nd 2007

apolloslyre--- agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cried all day 2 day and all the days since it came out, i was sitting in the car 2day and randomnly burst into tears!!!! nooooooooooo i want moooore hp!!!!!!!!!!! its soooo sad 2 think that there are no more stories about te trio and the series is over


Posted by keesli Jul 22nd 2007

I apologize if someone has already asked this (or if it's a pitiful question for a fan to ask) but I've looked and looked and can't find anything on who "Hugo" is... that is, who is he named after? could someone please let me know? thanks much. (loved the book, by the way)


Posted by shana1998 Jul 22nd 2007

The cover of the US book is the Great Hall. Remember the ceiling is bewitched to look the sky outside and JK kept mentioning the sun's rising. The shadows are the people crammed in the Great Hall. Both Harry and Vol are reaching for the Elder Wand when it flew out Vol's hand. So no the US cover was not misleading, we just didn't know what we were looking at. However, I don't know why the artist chose the scene of the dragon for the deluxe cover- it was, relatively, such a small and unnecessary (as far as for reading the cover for clues) scene to chose for such a big and important thing as the cover. I really LOVED the last 150 pages or so of the book!!! I'm not so sure about the epilogue though. That had gotten spoiled for me and at the time I thought it was stupid fan fiction. That part really doesn't work with the rest of the book (in my opinion, of course). I'm disappointed that I did not find out what happened in those missing 24 hours (I have the feeling I read to fast and that it was eluded to in Snape's memory). I think Dumbledore met with Snape and that Harry may have been at Hogwarts during their conversation.


Posted by XxCappaxX Jul 22nd 2007

i TOTALLY agree apolloslyre, i am devastated i KNEW snape was good, and i am just so HEARTBROKEN that hes actually dead. really. and to have him die by slowly bleeding to death because of the snake.... its just horrible. and poor george, all alone without his brother now...... i just cant take it all in without crying -cries-


Posted by HedwigForever Jul 22nd 2007

Enjoyed the book overall, although much of it had a vastly different writing style than her other books - the epilogue especially does not match up to anything else HP - I actually saw it online last week and was sure it was a fake because it seemed to be written by a child. How she could begin the book by offing Harry's beloved pet was simply cruel - my daughter cried on and off for the past day, and doesn't want to continue reading it now. And Fred's death was gratuitous and cruel as well - Percy should have been the one. Also, I know JKR did not have to answer every single question we readers have come up with, but there were many that she specifically (and personally, in interviews) said would be revealed in DH - sadly they were not and we are all left feeling a bit betrayed for having trusted and waited. Aside from the questions, the release is young and already many errors are apparent. Just a few are: Hermione performing Memory Charms on her parents to protect them, and then later in the story claiming she was unsure if she could do one as she never had before; when Harry is alone in the yard at the Burrow, he passes a thestral which is GRAZING? - thestrals eat raw meat!; how could Colin Creevy have been sent to safety with other students, only to sneek back to the battle and die - he was Muggleborn and would have been prevented from attending Hogwarts due to the new laws; why was there no portrait of the departed Headmaster Snape in the head's office at the end of the story? Dumbledore's portrait appeared immediately after his death in HBP, so Snape's should have been there. Don't get me wrong - I adore the HP series, and am eternally grateful to JKR for the wonderful world she has created and allowing us to share it with her. I guess the other books set a higher and higher standard which was not met. DH does seem rushed - I hope if this is the fault of the editors or publishers that it can be corrected in later editions. Thanks Jo!


Posted by perevell Jul 22nd 2007

I think you're right snoolo! I mean obviously Slytherin's house isn't saint-like or whatever but not everyone there is bad- and I would've thought that Harry's children would see this given that a Slytherin (Snape) gave up his life to Harry...who could've easily given Harry to Voldemort. He doesn't even really scold James which is a little disappointing. But I guess you can't expect hatred/prejudice to just go away even though it had been 19 years. I loved Snape's memory and how he told Lily it didn't matter she was muggle born and that she wouldn't end up in Azkaban and the whole waiting outside the common room. I don't know I was just surprised that no one really acknowledged exactly what Snape went through after the pensieve. His fate could be considered worse than what happened to the Potters all that lying and sneaking and peril with no one caring or loving Snape. Poor thing. I do hope he got a portrait at Hogwarts.


Posted by sirius_lee Jul 22nd 2007

OMG!!! ALL THIS TALK HAS MADEME CRY RITE NOW!!!! I SWEAR 2 GOD I'M CRYING RITE THIS MINUTE WHILE RITING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by snoolo Jul 22nd 2007

i think hugo and rose....well the only parallels i can see is the H and R of the names corresponding to Hermione and Ron....but yeah. Snape definately would not have given any of those memories away if he weren't dying...he is not the type of man to be humiliated, especailly in front of Potters son...he has been through enough in his life...so in the end snape was saying, with those memories, 'harry i loved your mother and i care enough about you to show you how much' It was sooooooooo sad when snape was crying at grimmauld place at Lily's letter...and "took her love"


Posted by jkmonkey28 Jul 22nd 2007

Someone please tell me I am not the only person who is glad Draco made it through everything and even turned out not so Draco-ish near the end? Narcissa at the end redeamed herself a bit as well.




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