gay!Dumbledore is the best! I love him even though I'm not gay. And, seriously, there's nothing wrong with gays. My drama teacher was gay, and his last name was Gayta! (Not kidding!)

wow, no, thats horrible ohhthecheats. that is exactly why ppl are who are christian dont like harry potter. harry potter is NOT like a bible. the BIBLE is supposed to be a way of like to learn and live from it. What if everyone read the books and tried to live like that, thats exactly what the bible says NOT to do. dont think you can do magic because you cant. the whole concept is around the fact harry potter is in a world that normal ppl dont live in, in other words, a world that really doesnt exsist.

Ye gods. They certainly didn't put that on his chocolate frog card. Suddenly, Potter Puppet Pals is taking a whole new meaning in my head...also that little signature wink of his. I don't have a problem with gay people in general but I just really thought Dumbledore was a straight leaf. I thought his past was tragic and heartbreaking enough without throwing in th fact that he was GAY. This is only going to bring hate on to J.k. Rowling. Will someone please save that woman from herself.

well said, permafrost.

HPfanx14- God did not "give" us the Bible. I am not religious, but I believe the premise is that God may have controlled certain events in the history of mankind that were eventually recorded in some fashion, and then changed and warped throughout history in their telling by figures of authority. The bible is a HUMAN creation. It is not an absolute. Wrap your head around that.

This is a joke.

I am not homophobic but i really think that this is weird because i never thought of Dumbledore as being like this, like i always thought that muggle ways were above him because of him being such a powerful and influential wizard, thats why it was a shock to me...if that makes sense? also this won't make a difference to my enjoyment of the books because it has never actually been mentioned in the books but i guess it explains why Dumbledore was hesitant to stop Grindelwald.

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*applauds ohhthecheat and dumbledore69* Potterfa natic93: I can see what you mean - clearly the people who taught them this are at fault too. But if people blindly follow what they are taught, they become narrow minded. In my school, I have people label me a 'Nazi' simply because I have some German blood in my background - not that any family member of mine ever was a Nazi, and none that I knew of ever fought in WWII. These people blindly follow what they have been told, without having the intelligence or initiative to question it, and therefore become narrow minded people. I do not believe that people who think homophobes are narrow minded are being narrow minded themselves - that's ridiculous.

Araminta YOU ARE SO WRONG LOL.lol ok the New Testament in the Bible has more than 24,000 documents. All recorded with 99.5% accuracy. The .5 is punctuation and capitalization. The New testament has the most autographs. Autograph- the orgininal ancient document. The Bible is more accurate than any scholar that we base thoughts off of today. Did you know that Homer had only 640 documents and they were written all after 1000 years of his death? There has to be at least 5 documents written down within a thousand years. No other philosopher meets these standards. Only the New testament. And your also self refuting. You said that everything written down was influenced by something overtime. If it could be influenced by that, why did you not include God? You are too biased Araminta.

*joyous screaming* Yes! always knew Dumbledore was gay (or at least I treid to convince my freinds he was)! I noticed a while back that some one said that this would "a;ienate a good deal of her fans" And all i have to say is does it really matter now? All the books are out. Anyway, almost pity everyone who will stop reading because of this.

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! DUMBLEDORE GAY?????!!!! I WOULD HAVE NEVER GUESSED!!!!!!!! i never even thought about it..........

I'm going to repost this in case Autumnwramth missed it: Autumn: The Bible absolutely does approve of slavery. The Jews being freed from captivity does not make that any less so, particularly when you consider that the law God dictated to the freed Jews specifically mandated how they were to treat THEIR OWN SLAVES. The reason the Jews were freed was then obviously not that slavery is bad -- if so, why would God have told them it is fine for them to own slaves? -- but because the Jews were loyal to God, while the Pharoah was God's enemy. For more about the Bible's stance on slavery read: http://www.evilbible.com/ Slavery.htm My point in bringing this up? If you're going to condemn Jo for calling herself a Christian yet rejecting the Bible's words against homosexuality, you'll also have to condemn yourself for doing the same in regard to slavery.

yah, the Bible is human made, but why would people randomly write stories about God works and about Jesus from no where? and God controlled certain events in history? wht is that supposed to mean? that someone just made up that there was a God and half the world decides to believe in it?

i gotta go for a while ppl/b*tches but dont worry ill be back... dont turn gay while im away!! oh a nd i dont have anything against gayness but i dont think its right either!!

i really dislike jk. I dont see how you can still have respect for here after recent events.

..I love Jo. I think this is great. Someone mentioned before how gays need good role models, so here's one. A quote from this interview that I found very relevent - "The Potter books in general are a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry, and I think ti's one of the reasons that some people don't like the books, but I think that's it's a very healthy message to pass on to younger people that you should question authority and you should not assume that the establishment or the press tells you all of the truth." So why can't we all just learn to be tolerant? Would that be so difficult?? Also, some people think this is horrible because Jo's a Christian. I'm Catholic and I have no problem with gay people and don't think its wrong. They don't choose to be gay. The people who wrote the Bible didn't have modern medicine and didn't understand that. As someone said before, they also approved of slavery. So no, Jo is not a hippocrite any more than a Christian who doesn't approve of slavery is.

Autumnwramth, you are too biased against anything not stated from the "infallibility" of the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible today, or the reincarnation of the Bible as it was 2000 years ago, is not 99.5% accurate.

So, that totally ruins the grandfather image I had of Dumbledore. Um... And Neville and Hannah? NO! NEVILLE AND LUNA FOREVER!!!!!

Araminta evilbible.com is the website/web authors interpretation. I am sorry, but that is not even a knowledgeable website. Theologians today wouldnt even bring up this debate today because it makes no sense. Instead of talking on mugglenet, email me: autumn.warmth@yahoo.com

Autumnwrath: For the record, your last post had nothing to do with anything I wrote. You were responding to something that someone else (I forget who) wrote. I never said anything about the Bible's accuracy or lack thereof, just that the Bible approves of slavery.

oh god you people and the bible give it up. ALL of the HP books have been put up against the bible. however dumbledor being gay i think its fantastic. i wonder how i never saw it but it was obvious, just look at the movies, hes so eccentric in those. but i think the reason jo never brought it up is cause no one ever asked and it wasnt important to the plot of the books so why bring it up you know. as for people saying they arent going to read the series or whatever, are you people dumb it isnt going to effect Jo she has her money and there are PLENTY of other people out there that will still love the books and the movies. what kind of stand will not reading the books or watching the movies make huh?

FOR ANYONE WHO IS FIGHTING ABOUT SLAVERY - the bible doesnt say that slavery is a sin. my parents would know they've read it repeatedly. it says however, you should treat the slave the way you would want to be treated, Unlike the Pharoah and when there was slavery in america.

autumnwramth- I don't know who told you these things, but they are incorrect. We have very little understanding of the New Testament. It is a translation first of all, making whatever version of it you're reading a second hand document. There are many versions today. Also, we are generally unsure of who many of its authors actually were. The new testament is not a "philosopher." It is a collection of texts, many of them different versions of the same thing. Homer's texts were memorized meticulously by performers and scribes. He was not a philosopher either, but a storyteller/author. The new testament is not accurate. There are so many texts that have been taken out with the aim of promoting certain parts of Christ's teaching instead of others. Also, unlike Homer, much of the New Testament is historical, and not fictional. Your comparison is ridiculous. ======== HPfanx14- I cannot argue with you; you must be very young or very stupid because youre reading my posts literally and you have a horrible misunderstanding of the religion that you supposedly are a part of.

This looks like it could regress into a religious debate, which isn't really directly to do with the original subject, but, HPfanx14, surely if you say someone wouldn't have made up stories about Jesus and God etc., then someone wouldn't have randomly made up the stories in all other religious books. If that is also true, it means they must all be factual, which is a bit of a contradiction; all religions cannot be true, can they? Look at the time period the Bible was written in - now, we're in the 21st century, and homosexuality is accepted - so it should be! It doesn't affect the character or the storyline - I don't get the horror, shock, disgust etc.

wow! this post got a lot of comments! i wonder if harry will ever find out that dumbly is gay!!! even worse he was in love with grindelwald

oh boy, potter haters are gonna have fun with this one. i love how JKR doesn't even think its a big deal. like she had no idea people would have such a big reaction. this is the most comments on mugglenet since the release of the book. i think thats kind of sad.

autumnwramth - You are forgetting about the cannonization of biblical texts which took place over hundreds of years. The Bible "books" were chosen by men, while other books, deemed to be less "christian" were disgarded. Even Catholic and Protestant bibles contain a different amount of cannonized books.

Dumbledore69, you're full of it. How is disagreeing with this move and expressing one's view on the matter make someone equivalent to a racist or a sexist? Sure a couple posts have been tactless, but who are you to throw stones? So a person for whatever mainstream philosophy is in fashion today can say whatever they feel like, but when someone of a different persuasion asserts their own feelings on the matter, all of a sudden a bunch of insults are inevitably thrown, and the opposer is no longer free to express her First Amendment-protected thoughts? The double standard disgusts me.

CAN SOME ONE SHOW ME WHAT IN THE BOOKS SUPPORTS HIM BEING GAY??? If they cant, then we have to conclude what Ive said: JKR PULLED THIS RANDOM STRING OF CRAP OUT HER @$$

"but why would people randomly write stories about God works and about Jesus from no where?" to explain the world & ensure themselve they are safe (someone cares, death is not the end, etc) "and half the world decides to believe in it?" it's comfortable, isn't it?

I don't think its such a big deal to be honest, yeah its a shock but it shouldn't alter people's perceptions of Dumbledore or the series in genera

Why did she have to tell us this? It has nothing to do with the books. Gosh.

Autumn: There is no interpretation involved. This isn't the book of Revelation, where everything is written in coded, overly metaphoric language. Slavery is explicitly condoned in the Bible, even by (supposedly) God himself. There is even less room to question that than there is to question whether the Bible really condemns homosexuality, which is only mentioned a couple of times compared to slavery which is several times addressed in approving tones.

While shocked at the initial decision to state that Dumbledore was gay, I now am confused at her decision to do this. Does this add/substract anything from the story? No. The story line and the themes remain unchanged. Rowling said (according to the AP article) that Harry Potter is about "tolerance". The fact that Dumbledore was gay does not aid in the series' goal to teach this. Since, Dumbledore was not openly gay in the books, we have no insight to how he was treated due to his gender preferences. All claims of knowledge or clues to Dumbledore's homosexuality is crassly based on stereotype. In the end, I fear, that this announcement will not lead to greater tolerance, but will only promote countless, distasteful jokes and comments about beloved characters that have so much to teach us.

Grnd3lW4Ld - youre an idiot. Just because no one can show you evidence from the books does not mean that she "pulled it from her a$$." You just made that up. How the hell do you know what she intended from the beginning? You're a stupid person.

thats what i thought grindelwald she probaly just said that randomly! i mean who suddenly reaveals that one of their main characters is gay when the series is done and nothing shows it in the books

http://www.clarifyingchri stianity.com/b_proof.shtm l http://www.christianadvic e.net/the_bible_accuracy. htm Please if you wish to argue more, actually take some classes on the subject. If not, I will be argueing with someone who doesnt know what they are talking about. I have to go.

I never ever imagined he was gave I always thought this is a childrens book so he is just a colorfull person NEVER EVER thought it again I say HARRY POTTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CHILDRENS TELL!!!!!!THIS WAS SO UNCALLEDFOR

this has nothing to do with christianity, or about being gay. completely sidetracked. its about jk pulling this out of nowhere and prodicing it as fact! WHO ELSE IS REALLY ANNOYED!

For you information, I minored in historical theology.

JKR has all the rights to produce anything she wants to in the Harry Potter world as canon.

whoa. just because someone views the books differently, does not make them stupid ohthecheat. ive read the books repeatedly and never felt that dumbledore was gay. And it did seem very random, maybe not to you, but for a lot of people it seemed so.

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT UNDERSTANDS ME! Our Dumbledor the loving and kind sensitve mentor gay? (Nothing against gays) . He is... please someone listen to me. Don't you think J.K was joking. I hope so. This ruins the whole series for me. Anyone that thinks its funny should shut their frekin mouth up. I'm not even kidding on the verdge of crying. :' ( Well whatever. I guess it's just meant to be. **--- Luna ---**

no none gets a freaking word i'm saying.

Okay, I am not actuallysurprised when I come to think about it that Dumbledore is gay because it explains why he never married. Still, from reading the books, one would not normally consider the question and that I think is appropriate; whether hetro- or homosexual, a slef-respecting person does not flaunt one's sexual beahvior. Such things are personal matters. In other words, one would never necessarily know about Dumbledore, but then why should one?

Wow, look at all the good Christian hate spewing out on this board! Ah, i do love it so. See, I despise Christians. Hate them all. And they are being ever so gracious by demonstrating exactly WHY I hate them, right here, for all to see. Become a Christian, everyone! You get to hate people and still go to Heaven! Just ignore all that stuff about loving your enemies and doing unto other as you would have done unto you. God knows, the Christians ignore it. :-)

"JKR has all the rights to produce anything she wants to in the Harry Potter world as canon." Not if she wants respect from her fans, and respect for the books

An awful lot of the Harry Potter series has not been a 'children's tale' as was obvious in the amount of adults who read it. Murder, lies, total evil, men in the back of other mens heads, betrayal - can someone tell me when the children's tale kicks in? And saying she just pulled this from nowhere is rubbish: As to why she didn't include it, I believe she knew it would detract from the main storyline, as people would react as they have today. She has known these characters for years, and knows things about them we don't. As it says in the original post: "If I had known this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago." If she would've told us years ago, then she knew years ago. It was not out of nowhere.

She didn't pull this out of nowhere. Very early on in Book 7 there were strong hints that Dumbledore was gay ("our mutual attraction," says Elphias Doge about there friendship--that to me was almost a confirmation). The only thing about it that should really surprise the attentive reader is that it was Grindelwald. And even that shouldn't blow you away, given that Dumbledore expressed a great deal of passion for the man, even if this passion wasn't implicitly romantic.