Alan Horn, President of Warner Brothers, has issued a statement in response to the large amount of disappointment from their decision to delay Half-Blood Prince until July 17th, 2009:
Many of you have written to me to express your disappointment in our moving “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” to Summer 2009. Please be assured that we share your love for Harry Potter and would certainly never do anything to hurt any of the films. Over the past 10 years, we have nurtured and protected each film, and the integrity of the books upon which they are based, to the best of our ability. The decision to move “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” was not taken lightly, and was never intended to upset our Harry Potter fans. We know you have built this series into what it is, and we thank you for your ongoing enthusiasm and support. If I may offer a silver lining: there would have been a two-year gap between “Half-Blood Prince” and the much-anticipated first part of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” which opens in November 2010. So although we have to wait a little longer for “Half-Blood Prince,” the wait from that film until “Deathly Hallows” will be less than 18 months. I am sorry to have disappointed you now, but if you hold on a little longer, I believe it will be worth the wait.
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08-19-2008
at 7:22 PM
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:26:56
*sigh*
i wanna hear mugglecasts response to this
1st? or top 10
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:27:14
Funny how he doesnt ONCE mention the fact that the movie was moved because they want more MONEY! I am still boycotting all of WB and their films/DVDs/affiliates, and I am still boycotting the HBP film, and I am still pissed.........YOU ARE SLIMY ALAN HORN!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:28:01
lies.................. they dont care about us. they care about our money. and they dont even do the movies justice!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:30:32
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:31:38
yeah right. the move was selfish and only meant to benefit WB. what a joke. he really might as well just have said nothing.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:32:17
go to heck....your wrong. BOYCOTT THE OPENING WEEKEND!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:32:23
Its al a bunch of bull.He just wants more money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:32:43
personally i dont think that they did it just to upset us! but it certainly did. im definitely pissed about the whole thing. and yeah im sure some guy was like "omg dark knight is so popular, lets move the movie to that date!" yeah wtF? just because its the same date or whatever has no effect on who will see the movie that day. and yeah, they definitely moved it just because they wanted money. >;[
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:33:15
Funny how he fails to mention that now that theyve moved it the gap between 5 and 6 is now 2 years. We changed one 2 year gap for another. All for money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:33:38
The movies are a SAD, shallow, inconsistent, irresolute, representation of the books, and the WB is STILL trying to act as though we are their fans and they care about us, when in reality we are HP fans, not WB fans, and they DONT care about us, just our money. "Less of a wait between HBP and DH" (which they broke into two parts to get yet MORE money out of us but try and pass it as them suddenly "caring" about the accuracy of the books) oh! I feel SOOO much better now Alan Horn! Thank you!....................B OYCOTT the HBP opening weekend and show the WB what pissing off the HP fans will do!...........Watch my vlog on youtube! TheRaineDrop
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:34:17
:/ duhhhh were dissapointed!! u idiottt grr im am soooo mad
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:35:04
It may no longer be a gap of 2 years between movie 6 and 7, but they created a 2 year gap between 5 and 6.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:35:06
Whatever! Who are you trying to fool with the "we care about fans" garbage?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:35:30
Uhh...He says that they would not do anything to hurt the movie, but moving it does hurt it in a sense because some people, me included, are boycotting everything WB and the opening weekend. I say keep sending howlers, and the only way that they could make it up to us is to move it to the old twilight release date of dec. 12th or earlier. STILL PISSED OFF!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:37:51
WB wants money. I say everyone boycott opening weekend and only see it once. If we do that then Alan Horn will lose his job, which he rightly deserves. He can still overturn this, but there isnt much time.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:39:20
why cant JKR direct the movies not greedy people????!!!! jk but SERIOUSLY?????
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:40:11
"If I may offer a silver lining: there would have been a two-year gap between
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:41:10
I agree with you guys about the movies...they really dont do the books justice. I know they cant get EVERYTHING the same, but I also DO NOT believe that they make every effort to keep the "integrity of the books." Example: GoF dragon chase scene was their for entertainment, not because they thought it did justice to the books. ALSO, Adorkable, thank you for pointing that out, that (him purposefully leaving that fact out) is another reason why thier reasonings and responses to the move disgust me.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:41:39
I really am offended at how stupid he thinks we are. Were getting DH in two parts for money only, were getting HBP on delay so they can save money on taxes. I can tell you this, if MN, HPANA or Leaky took the right stance and encouraged us to see the movie once, and make that happen. But WB would come down on them harder then JKR came down in steve vander ark with his book, too much to lose for them for t hem to get involved with the fans and the money wb stands to make.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:43:04
I hate to break it to you but WBs reasons for doing this are legitimate. Theyre going to lose revenue from the delayed films they originally planned for next summer. Considering the summer months usually attract the most theater goers, those lost films represent a lot of lost revenue, more revenue than what would be lost if they take Harry Potter off the Winter lineup. They are doing this to even out their revenue stream. They will still lose money from the delayed summer releases, but not as much if they hadnt delayed HBP. Does it end up being all about money? Yes, it does. Greed? No, not so much.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:43:43
thats the crappiest silver lining i ever did hear
DH isnt being moved up, its release date is the same...ummm thanks??? i guess?
wtf
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:44:52
Thanks ChaiBabachai.
I love how they practically HAD To split the last book into two movies because now they have to scramble to explain everything they left out in all the other ones. Sometimes I wonder if JKR did it on purpose. Stupid WB.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:45:22
yeah and instead its a 2 year delay from OOTP to HBP!! No matter what its a two year delay!! I really would not care at all if it was a two year delay from HBP til DH part one because DH is the last film (not including movie 2) so I would love the two year anticipation. Plus, were still going to have to wait long for the release of the first DH film no matter what. WHY CANT THEY RELEASE HBP IN DECEMBER?!? I really dont get why not.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:45:52
He seems sincere, but its just so disappointing. They cant pretend this isnt about the money so I dont know why they bother trying. They have upset fans and nothing is going to change that. I understand that people are upset about the cuts/additions in the movies, but that is part of storytelling through a movie; it really cant be helped. I just do not understand the push, its all about the money and that is really disappointing.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:46:37
I dont know why.. but while i was reading this i was thinking that violins should be played in the background like a sappy drama (like a boyfriend is breaking up with his girlfriend) "its not you.. its me" lol this guy is just like a politician.. they love to spin stories to make themselves look good.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:47:47
HMMMMM, its amazing how I DONT CARE! I dont believe them either. They just want money. STILL PISSED WB!!!!!! Nice try though....
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:48:32
HAHAHA! WB IS CRACKING. KEEP SENDING MAILS, SIGNING STUFF AND BOYCOTTING THEIR MOVIES. IF THEY THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE US FEEL BETTER, THEYRE WRONG. THEYRE JUST TRYING TO GET ON OUR GOOD SIDE SO THAT WELL START PAYING FOR THEIR STUFF AGAIN. KEEP BREAKIN EM. XD THIS WAS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. MWHAHAHA
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:51:34
If you guys think they didnt know how many fans would be upset by this, youre kidding yourselves. They knew, and they made this decision anyway. The writers strike hurt them substantially, and they made the best decision to help themselves out of that rut. Does it suck? Yes, it does, but I believe them. They didnt come to this decision lightly, and if they had another option to get them out of the hole, they probably would have taken that one.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:51:46
schenkl ummmm, what the blue hell are you talking about? This is more then about the money for the fans, why are WE being punished because the studio heads were greedy bums when it came to giving the writers a fair deal and it cost them summer releases, I think not, they HAD no summer release either way. This isnt about making more money as a company, its about taking away our movie in November just so they can make there money in 2009. The fact of the matter is, HBP wont make any more money in the summer then it will in November, Gobet is sitting at 290 mil as a november release while ootp is sitting at 292. And that isnt more ticket sales its the price of the ticks went up, I saw Goblet once while I saw Ootp 4 times, Now Im seeing HBP 1 time, and that is their fault. Money or no money, they could of released this over April vacation, this is a movie that it doesnt matter when its released its going to hit its range of 280-310 mil mark, what this is, is a cop out by them and there is no logical reason to make us wait for the movie, not even if you wanted to call them greedy.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:52:06
OMG ppl please stop being so pissy
ITS A MOVIE! Its going to be CRAP anyways
If it was the book i could understand!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:53:31
He says nothing knew in the statement, really. What a heel. SO what if theres less of a wait between HBP and DH part 1? If the film is done and ready and doesnt need any tweaking (and was already getting scheduled in advance of the Royal screenings) why the delay? Writers strike... my tuckus!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:56:05
Didnt you notice? He changed his wording. Hes no longer saying that they wouldnt do anything to hurt the fans... he says they wouldnt do anything to hurt the movie. So much for at least attempting to make us think you give a darn.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 19:59:48
Wow. How fake is he. All he said was We dont wanna hurt the movie. We love the movie. and then said the reason we did this was so the wait between HBP and DH1 is short now. Well, I wouldve been ok with the wait, because thats the official date that theyve promised us. But now, HBP has been pushed from the date we were promised. Thats what ticks me off! They broke a promise they made when we were so close and now he have to wait basically a year!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:00:22
uh yea we knew that already. what was the point of this?
as disappointed I am, im getting over it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:02:22
festy1986- lmao I laughed at that MN comment (6th comment down). Its SO true! I cant even listen to the podcasts anymore because they seem so into themselves and rude... now I bet Im gonna have 764036730 people on my *** with hate comments. Just my opinion. But yeah, anyway, Volke93, its not just a movie... its the principle behind what theyre doing. Why cant you people understand that! I really dont understand how some of you cant be pissed off lol. Theyre "business decision" is piggish, theyre lying to us with constant bullshit so they can hide the fact that theyre trying to take every cent from you so they can add to the billions they dont need. AND theyre using HP. Ugh you people are frustrating me. Fine. Im not boycotting HBP but Im not going to see it multiple times and Im NOT going to see WBs other films. I can wait for video. Or... buy a ticket in sneak in. DUH.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:02:45
What he meant was "If we wait long enough, itll be worth it-- TO THEM" because THEY will get more CASH. Greedy idiots! KEEP SENDING HATE MAIL AND HOWLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! DONT GIVE UP!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:02:46
What he meant was "If we wait long enough, itll be worth it-- TO THEM" because THEY will get more CASH. Greedy idiots! KEEP SENDING HATE MAIL AND HOWLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! DONT GIVE UP!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:04:26
festy1986, yeah, what you said makes more sense. They wont make more or less money either way, so they made the decision to delay the film just to psst Potter fans off. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. If they thought, theyd simply make the same amount of money, theyd have kept it where it was. Were the studios greedy bums when it came to giving the writers their just due? Yes, they were, and now they are paying for it. They anticipate lost revenue during summer 2009, due to that strike, so they made what they think is the best decision to mitigate it. I dont like this decision any more than you do. I would much rather see this movie in November. I think the content of the movie is best suited for a November release. And, I can guarantee something else. Other major production companies have made the exact same decisions when it came to their releases for the exact same reasons WB has lined out. Those films, however, just dont have nearly the same fan following and anticipation that HP has, so those films arent making the headlines.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:06:15
Since I am sure I must have agreed to use clean language here, I can not say what I really think. It does involve many 4 letter words of color. But most importantly I want to CONGRATULATE all of you, us, maybe we really did get the giants attention. Kind of like a nat buzzing his ears, but that is no small feet! WTG and I am still refusing to see any WB product until hpb is realeased.
I am proud to call you all friends!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:06:18
I dont know why he mentioned the "short" wait between HBP and DH because it doesnt really matter. Im kind of over being pissed because theres obviously nothing we can do about it. Im sure itll be a great movie, and in the meantime we have The Beedle and the Bard to look forward to in terms of HP releases. Itll be okay in the end, guys. Theres really no use being mad over it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:06:22
i bet there going to push deathly hallows back to 215
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:07:44
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:08:03
wow, that makes me feel completely better! i forgive you for pushing back HBP for a YEAR. no hard feelings!! /sarcasm WARNER BROS, you disgust me.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:08:41
Basically, they made the mistake of not changing the date before announcing on their websites the release dates around the world and giving us the trailer with November 2008 at the end. This may be a wise business decision but we the fans make or break the movie industry. Without us they dont make the money. That is the bottomline. Next summer believe it or not they wont make the money off of me that they would have in November 2008.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:08:55
lol, and one more thing-- Alan Horn, you are SLIMY! hahaha! yeah, SLIMY!!! very freaking SLIMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! i SO agree RabidSphinx. slimy. heck YEAH!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:09:03
The point is schenkl is that there not making any more net value, it doesnt matter when they get the money. You would think that they want it earlier right? but because TDK is sitting at almost 500 mil, it makes NO sense to them to pay all that taxes for net worth this year as TDK basically it two blockbusters in one for them. So they save tons by pushing it to 09. Ginmo, its true, there in WB pocket and they know it, there isnt any problem with that, its nice to get free stuff, make a 1,000 a month to do a audio podcast and not have to have a real job for some of these kids, so you can understand why our sentiments might be shared by some of them, there not going to ruin there relationship with WB because of something like this, they even deleated my comment cause maybe some of the fans around here are too much of a groupie to understand whats really going on I dont think they want it in writing.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:09:16
Here we go...excuses and more excuses. I still think the decision is full of crap. So theyve delayed it to make the wait between HBP and DH shorter...sure. ;-)
Whatever you say WB...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:09:54
festy1986- THANK YOUUUUU!!!!!!!!! gosh! thats exactly what Ive been trying to say. And BAHAHAHAH youre right marcia56, it seems like we were getting to them. He mentioned all the angry letters. KEEP IT UP PEOPLE! We gotta keep annoying them. The whole point of this statement was to try and butter us up to get us to back down. If you back down, youre giving them what they want.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:10:59
Im amazed at how many of you people commenting feel a sense of entitlement to the movie as if it were actually yours. News flash: its not. The movie does not belong to you. You do not have any right to see this movie at a certain time. WB never signed a contract with you saying that the movie had to be released this November. Yes, it sucks that we have to wait an extra 8 months for the movie, but suck it up. The accusations that WB made this decision out of greed are absolutely pointless. WB is a corporation, whose goal is to make as much profit as possible. Its capitalism, not greed. They didnt make this decision solely to make you whiners cry. As for you fools calling for a WB boycott...do what you want. Im not boycotting anything, and Ill be seeing HBP next July regardless. And you probably will as well.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:11:18
schenkl: So wouldnt that be greed? They dont have any awesome movies coming out in the Summer so they push HBP there so they receive money then, too. Why couldnt they have just kept it in November? They know that Harry Potter is the best selling movie franchise ever, meaning most fans and most devoted, meaning angry as hell fans.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:12:47
Many of the Harry Potter movies have had two years in between one and the other, I guess I am upset to have to wait more, after thinking I could go watch it in November, but I am definitely not Boycotting the premier. I know they werent sniggering and saying "Lets psst of these stupid fans" they probably just want to make the most of whats left of the series, after all they are a buisness, we cant blame them for that. As for me, I guess Ill just do everything else in my life that I have left besides Harry Potter. School, Work, Friends, maybe Ill finish reading "ELDEST" "AMERICAN GODS" by Neil Gaiman and every other book I bought during my book buying frenzy in June.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:13:27
hermie1958.. good point.. it would not have been such a big deal if they changed the date before they released the dates/trailer. I think that in the end they will regret making the change. But thats just me
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:14:38
I think people boycotting the film is absolutely stupid... I can understand being upset but cmon. Theyre a freaking business, theyre not going to cater to every wish of the fans if they see an opportunity to make more money. Yeah, theyre in it for the MONEY. Shocker. There probably are some people on this film who are definitely in it more for a love of HP, but WB wont give a sh!te about a pushback. Boycotting wont do anything, either. Itll just psst off more people.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:15:57
FIRE ALAN HORN! BOYCOTT OPENING WEEKEND!!! He talks down to us like were stupid, little kids that can be pacified. Lets see how pacified hell be when no one shows up to his film on its new release date!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:17:57
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:18:00
Mattrixed I dont think anyone thinks that, maybe it looks like that by the way were acting, but this movie wouldnt even be made if you take away the Potter fans, so yes, the movie IS ours and telling us that were getting it in NOvember and then changing there mind is like breaking a contract.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:20:00
Oh, and one more thing: dont you guys think boycotting is incredibly unfair to the people actually working on the darn film? These people have been working for months to give you guys a great movie and just because youre all too effing whiny about having to wait another GASP! 8 months, youre all screwing them over. Good job, everyone. Boy, some people on here need to just learn to suck it up...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:20:07
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:20:22
They are a business. I mean, I dont like that we have to wait, but I have overcome my hard feelings. We have another year to wait, but what he said is actually a silver lining... We wont have to wait as long for the first part of DH.... which is good. I mean, I was really mad too, but I think its only because they released a trailer and everything and then pulled it out from under us... It wasnt a bad decision....just bad timing....really bad timing. I am glad he responded to us. It shows they arent heartless. Im satisfied.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:21:08
Post all your hate mail and HOWLERS here: http://www.warnerbros.com /main/help/customer_servi ce.html
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:22:08
Great, we get the movie pushed back nearly a year so that HBP and DH will be released closer together. How do we know that Horn and WB wont decide to push the 1st half of Deathly Hallows back to the summer of 2011 as well???
After all the 1st half of DH is due out in November, too?! Wont that screw up their summer revenues?? Im sorry I believe little of what the man says and I know full well that corporate greed is at the root of this. As its been said, they dont care about the fans and what they want, they care about our money...
Save your breath Horn, you arent convincing me this was for the best.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:24:01
Who cares who worked on it man, they should complain to their employer and not us for these kind of decisions. I wouldnt boycot the movie and I dont suggest that for anyone to do, but I would say only see it ONCE cause if the movie loses its repeat viewings its losing millions, in reality you shouldnt see a movie more then once, but sometimes there so good and sometimes there close you your heart you just do, but if we all went and saw it once, then WB would have a lesson learned.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:24:34
Total narishkeit! Keep sending howlers. I dont think Mr. Horn has even begun to realize how upset we are. Silver lining? Puh-lease! Like everyones said, you dont even do the books justice.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:25:24
I half agree with the boycott people and I half agree with the others. I understand why WB did this but I want to annoy them as much as I can to show them that we care and that were hurt.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:26:22
Someone please shoot him in the face, before I do it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:28:28
Hey, back off of the guy. It totally sucks that were not getting it in november, but Im confident that they moved it for a good reason, regardless of money. Plus, he seems like a pretty good guy.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:30:33
And newsflash to anyone that thinks otherwise, capatilism IS greed. Everything is to make the biggest profit possible, to squeeze every last penny out of a franchise and to sit back in their chairs, rubbing their hands together and feel proud of themselves that theyve successfully screwed us over, YET AGAIN.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:31:17
Hpfanaticgrl: Alan Horn is the spawn of Satan. He is not nice. He likes eating puppies for breakfast. This is all I can say without having the censors fill my post with stars.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:31:46
i think this is total bs!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:32:20
Hmpfh! He just reiterated what he said days ago! Nothing new! Shame on you WB! I hope you get what you deserve!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:32:56
Horn is like every other CEO, he only speaks in corporate-speak...he doesnt understand laymans terms, like This is Bullsh-t! If it doesnt involve profit margins and spreadsheets, its not valid. Theyre all Ferengi...they live by The Rules of Acquisition alone. Well, I say impact their profit margin, and they will listen.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:33:13
The movie had BETTER BE worth this long wait! If Horn thinks we are mad now, he hasnt seen ANYTHING yet if the movie turns out to be garbage...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:33:25
Ive got three words for your Mr. Alan Horn. GO SCREW YOURSELF!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:34:29
That is total BS. Oh god! I am so excited that I have to wait over two years now instead of two years later. Thank you Alan and WB. You guys are PR geniuses. Oh, wait. You actually suck at PR. I was being sarcastic.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:35:42
ok well listen i am not boycotting idc how many ppl hate me 4 this but they had to do wat they had to do and there is nothing we can do about it i am not going to throw away my great love for these movies just because it got pushed back no thats not how i do things and i am a fan of hp any real fan who actually liked hp would watch the movie regardless of its release date...fine if ur not real fans...i was really pissed at first to but then i relized that my fandom was more dominate than my anger towards wb im sry if its not the same 4 others
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:36:04
Well, thank you Captain Obvious for pointing out that there will be less time between 6 and 7. Its not the amount of time we have to wait that bothers me, it was how close we were to getting the movie.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:36:08
I love that he used the phrase "A Little Bit Longer." He secretly loves the Jonas Brothers.
AND HE ALSO SECRETLY WANTS TO TORTURE US!!!!!!
My theory? Its all David Yatess fault. If we had just gone back to Chris Columbus, like Id asked.....
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:37:37
And I agree with Festy. MN, Leaky, and every other Potter sites are being cowards. They get to go on sets, see behind the scene stuff because theyre with WB. If they actually posted, "Um, hey, boycott opening weekend," we might actually have WB lose some money. But no. MN is just sitting on the sidelines, waiting till their next paycheck...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:38:19
Honestly, I dont really care. I mean, at first I was very upset, but after just thinking about it, its not that bad. The movies are never as good as the books. Just reread the book again. Its the SAME story, remember. Americans have gotten so darn lazy...must everything be dumbed down into a movie for us to fully appreciate it? I find that my own mind creates the best movie. You guys should try it sometime...let the words come to life. A movie is just one persons interpretation of the most important ideas in the book. Certainly nothing to get so upset about.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:40:58
They wouldnt do anything that could shut their site down, and definitley wont do anything that will screw them from set visits that they get because of the hits we send there way on there sites. If they were more pro active with this, they would lose any sources they have with WB and be blacklisted, but thats a no no for them, too much money to lose. I dont blame them really, but its still wrong.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:42:20
Agreed, Jaimleanne. The thing that Im most pissed about is that they had everything set up for a Nov. 21 release (trailers, international release dates, etc.), and everyone was looking forward to it for a LONG TIME, we were 98 days away, and then suddenly WB pulls the carpet from under our collective feet. Theyve taken advantage of the HP community because they know that we will pay to see it whenever. They cant just screw us over like that!
Jerks.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:42:51
Hm. Well, I think it was nice that he took the time to at least respond to the outrage the fans are feeling. He easily could have just ignored us, or let some random PR person deal with us. That makes him seem more sincere. I dont think hes a Voldemort, hes not even an Umbridge or a Death Eater. Hes more like... Fudge.
Having said that, however... still dont feel any better about the new release date. And Im still not sure if Ill feel excited enough to see it come July. I was so revved up for November, and the only way for me to deal with the sudden letdown without feeling really angry or sad was to just let go of all the anticipation and excitement Id let build. So its all gone now. And Im not too interested in trying to get it back, for fear WBll do something next year to mess with it again.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:44:19
We all should have seen this coming. The numbers with the dollar sign in front of them is what this business is all about. I dont care if HBP came out in the summer, the winter, fall, or spring. It would still probably top 290 million. To postpone the movie for 11 months so that WB can make a few millions more is a slap in the face to anyone whos ever called themselves a Harry Potter fan. I know how low the movie business is. I thought the men behind HP would be different, though, because of the amazing fanbase. So much for loyalty.=/
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:45:13
I say we all go to the opening weekend of Twilight and then send WB all our ticket stubs to prove that HBP would have been just fine (awsome in fact) coming out in Nov.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:45:31
Many of you keep pointing out that WB is doing nothing wrong, and it just makes good business sense.
Why, then, did they insist on giving us a release date before OotP was even finished filming? If they had waited a little longer to do that, they could have considered more, and then possibly been more ACCURATE so no one would have been as angry.
As it stands, the statement made by the president of the company is nothing but politics. While I agree some people are TOO upset about this, it changes nothing about the fact that what Horn said is bullshit. Hes a politician, nothing more, working to make people think hes a good guy and his people are doing the right thing, even if thats not the truth.
Also, some of you are pointing out that theyre not doing it because of greed, theyre doing it for money....think about it. Thats what greed IS. Doing something for your own personal gain, specifically when it hurts others.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:45:43
Whoever first had the idiotic idea to move the release date up deserves to shot, cloned, and all his/her clones shot dead as well. /end of story.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:45:54
What a bunch of crap! I mean seriously! WB would make money ANY time of the year that HBP would be out!!!!!!!!!! Jerks!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:45:57
What a bunch of crap! I mean seriously! WB would make money ANY time of the year that HBP would be out!!!!!!!!!! Jerks!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:46:21
If we dont boycott, WB will think they can do this to fans all the time, and they will do it again with both DH films. As for the comments about hurting the people who made the film, I disagree. I think the people who made the film are just as pissed off as we are. Its the corporate jerks who sit in their offices with calculators and dollar signs in their eyes that made this decision, not the artistic people who actually put their hearts into the film. Alan Horn didnt make the movie. He doesnt care about the movie. He cares about the yacht he wants to buy with the extra profits hell make next summer. You know, a yacht to go with the summer McMansion he bought this summer from the Dark Knight profits.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:47:08
Please pass on our complete belief that they are full of it and we are not buying the hype. There is no way to do this but to continue to tell them we object by boycotting every movie from now until they put our movie in the theaters. Yes we all know that the movies are not the books, but as a lover of both independant of each other I want my movie.
BOYCOT BOYCOT BOYCOT BOYCOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:48:42
Dec. 2010 my ass, they will just move that one too. More howlers I say!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:48:50
Dec. 2010 my ass, they will just move that one too. More howlers I say!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:49:00
I cant believe people are being so childish about this whole thing. Okay yeah the guy is in it for the money, if he wasnt, THERE WOULDNT BE ANY HARRY POTTER MOVIES TO WATCH. if it wasnt a buisness, we would only be watching Indie films, which I do like, but thats besides the point. Just wait patiently like an adult. If you can write, youre old enough to be patient. You know your not going to Boycott anything. Spewing anger and threats is not nice. The guys not EVIL, NOT THE DEVIL OR AN A-HOLE, hes a business man., its what they do THEY MAKE MONEY for a living. Before anyone says anything, yes Im a fan, yes im upset about having to wait more, but I dont go around writing threats and offending people I dont know for doing their job, I go on with my life. And to prove my point, this is the last time I write anything about this topic.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:49:14
What really gets me is its so OBVIOUS that they just want more money. Post-production is done! (Or doesnt neet THIS much time). Then they pull the Imax card. "Oh, well we can put it in more Imax theaters, so go, be happy" NO, WB!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:50:33
BS! LETS WATCH ALL WB MOVIES ON THE INTERNET 4 FREE. DONT GIVE THEM A PENNY!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:51:45
Dude you people who are like "Its just another 8 months" ARE NOT GETTING THE POINT! wtf! seriously. Do you want me to speak in French, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, or something to get it into your heads about why people are upset? Do you honestly have no morals that were violated towards this sort of "business decision" ..???? honestly people. ITS NOT THE WAIT FOR THE 847604360376893TH TIME!! Maybe you should actually read the comments and youll understand where were coming from. NO Im not boycotting the HBP film entirely (Im seeing it once, not multiple times like I would have if it was released in november). But do you understand that theyre decision is the most moronic decision I have ever witnessed from a production company? It doesnt matter when HP is released... itll smash the box offices with a high profit. They wouldnt be making more money in the summer versus the fall or the winter. Instead, they want to psst off fans by using HP to MAYBE get like what... 2 million more dollars? out of 300 mil?! thats like asking for 50 cents more when youve just made 100 bucks. ITS NO DIFFERENCE. And they arent even sure if theyd make more money or not! Theyre greedy and stupid and I dont want them taking my hard earned money. I WILL see HBP in the theatres and if I see it more than once, the second time Im going to buy a ticket for another film and sneak in. Simple. I get my cake and eat it too. They dont get my money, I get to see the movie. Another thing for you people who are like "boohoo to WB!! they work so hard to give us a movie blah blah blahhhh" ummmm... HELLO?! do you not know that they have BILLIONS of dollars? wtf, they dont NEED every cent they can get. Before you argue our emotions about this, actually read our arguments and look at it morally and logically? k thanks.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:53:25
anyone who is going to freak out on the people here, hit Alt-F4 3 times before commenting. (for good luck) thanks. :]
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:55:10
i dont care what any of the a**es are saying about "suck it up" im still pissed. and yeah right like they care about us? if they did they would release the movie when they already said they were going to. They dont give a f*ck about their fans they give a big one about thier money though. it seriously think that it would still make almost just as much. everyones been waiting for this just like every other movie til novemer is long enough for me. its just flipping insane. the wb can kiss something of mine.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:55:59
They feel bad because we are upset. They do NOT feel bad that they made the decision, and I dont blame them.
You guys, dont let this ruin the movie for you! Its hard to wait for the movie because we like it SO much, but that is exactly the reason we need to get over our anger and wait it out. I like how Mr. Horn put it, it WILL be worth the wait!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:56:53
Whatever, Alan Horn. This rescheduling just ruined my mood to the movie, moving on from HP movies. Still love the books though and the anticipating Beedle the Bard this December!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:59:26
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 20:59:43
Ehh that really doesnt make me feel better (Im talking about the gap between the 6th & 7th movies). I would rather have it the day we were supposed to get it. I do think it was good of him to put out another statement, but that statement just didnt make any of us feel better. Blah.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:02:50
What bothers me most about the decision WB made is that it doesnt seem necessary. At all. I mean, Id understand if WB were to make the decision because they werent able to complete filming on time. Id be sad, but I wouldnt blame them. Id also understand if their entire corporation depended on the extra sales theyd make in the summer. Clearly it doesnt though, and thats the point. True, they were hurt by the writers strike, but they also benefited greatly from The Dark Knight. And if I remember right, one of the main reasons WB had for delaying HBP is that they didnt need the extra profits HBP would bring them that year. Theyre actually doing BETTER financially than they thought they would, so clearly they dont need the extra cash. They just want it.
Now, some people argue that WB IS a business, so it SHOULD be all about money for them. They feel its perfectly natural for them to do whats best for their profits, even if whats best for their profits isnt whats best for their fans. But when did businesses decide that its OKAY to break their promises to customers, when that promise had been out there for a very long time? When did businesses decide that its OKAY to shock millions of people at the last minute in favor of a more profitable season? I say its time that people realized that businesses need to care about more than just their revenue and reputation; they also need to care about about their fans and how their actions affect them.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:04:30
i agree with snoopygonewilder, no offense but its not the end of the world, nor should we all kill alan horn 5 thousand times, and just for the record i too was upset and mad at wb but that doesnt mean i wanna strangle them
however if u guys wanna boycott, u go do that but i gurantee they wont do anything, think about it: if they didnt care in the first place why should they care now??
ok yea its all about money, but come on im not gonna wait even more for the movie by not seeing it, im just gonna read some new books coming out such as Brisingr, and watch some good korean dramas
so u can cry if u like for the rest of the 2 years, but ima be cryin for a different reason; in front of a good korean drama
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:05:31
In all honesty, I wouldnt have cared about the gap...because wed have just gotten HBP in theaters, waited a while, and then couldve kept ourselves busy with the DVD. Weve waited longer. Boycott the opening weekend, imo.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:06:13
@ginmo// yesyesyes. and @Wizardofmath im not going to let this ruin the movie experience, im going to enjoy the hell out of this movie, but maybe not in opening week. i can wait one more just to contribute to the other people that it is not a good decision to destroy the people that hold the wallet. im really p!ssed and upset and i can wait but it is just so aggravating that theyre trying to suck-up and smooth talk us. i wont take this crap. its outrageous.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:06:58
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:08:31
i think that Mr. Horn should use his extra cash he thinks hes gonna get to invest in a goodly bulletproof vest. yeaaaaahhhh.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:08:33
Re: "they dont NEED every cent they can get." You need to learn what capitalism is. MAXIMIZING PROFITS. WB will do whatever they want if they think its in the best interests of their company. And moving a release date and pissing off a couple hundred thirteen year olds wont cut into their profit (or else they wouldnt have made this decision). WB obviously has a good reason for moving the date, they probably had teams of accountants and actuaries pour over the numbers to predict what release would result in profit maximization. Morality has no place in this argument. This is a business decision, the end. WB has NO OBLIGATIONS, NO CONTRACT to any fans about when or how this movie should be released. And to the person who earlier said "its like a contract"...no it isnt. Its NOT a contract, and the fact that there is NO CONTRACT means that you dont have a right to diddly squat. Does it psst you off? TOO BAD. This is how the world works. If you dont like it, move to North Korea.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:11:26
Dear Mr. Horn sir,
The more astute observers among us are quick to notice that your money flagship THE DARK KNIGHT has lost some box office presence after your untimely HBP delay announcement. Could this, along with the brash correspondence of passionate fans Harry Potter worldwide, have prompted your little tail-between-the-legs follow up apology?
Im afraid you and your colleagues are going to have to endure the barrage of negative letters and lost WB revenues for the NEXT 11 MONTHS. Get cozy, contrary to your stated belief it really IS a long time.
The "silver lining" is that you also now have 11 months of thinking how NOT to screw up DEATHLY HALLOWS, and maybe in those 11 months you can start improving the quality of your Saturday morning cartoons (which are now so abysmally bad my own 9-year-old has no patience for them).
Or you and yours can use those 11 months to work on your resumes...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:13:19
To surferrosmerta: Do you really think the HBP delay announcement had anything to do with The Dark Knight moving from first to second in the box office (in its fifth week, no less)? Get real.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:16:26
Another thing: it may be worth the wait, but not a whole years [give or take]. My opinion of the movie, what everyones said and the teaser trailer, dropped monumentally when they said Harry was going to be flirting with a waitress. What the heck..
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:17:55
ok first of all Mattrixed, its not just "13 year old girls." Im 20 fyi. And I can tell by the language some of these people are using are much older as well. Ok, that was irrelevant lol. But still. ANYWAY, second of all, theyre stupid because they arent doing the right captialistic move, as you say, because the fans are the people who employ them. And Im sorry but "a couple of hundred" thirteen year olds means A LOT of money, especially if they were going to see it multiple times. I can assure you that its WAY more than just a couple of hundred people. More like several thousands. And with ticket prices, several thousands of people = several million. The lost the several more million they would have gotten in November or Decemember. Im not stupid. I know how capitallism works.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:19:13
ravensbite23: haha really. since when did harry do something as outgoing as that? lol harry will always play it safe. yeah i really hope this movie will be as good as they say or i will be very unpleasant. (:
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:19:17
I always thought a company wanted to make as much money as possible, and from what I can see the WB is loosing out on the perfect reason for parents to spend money on HP related products and kids asking for them. Do hope that they make some money next year on the merch to offset their lost revenue this time around for it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:21:26
Its the timing of when they made the announcement. They waited until 3 months before the movie was to be released. Also, the fans e-mails and howlers and petitions, is getting to WB. They dont like to hear from disgruntled fans. Fans should keep it up. WB might not change the date for HBP again, but they will think twice before changing the date of DH. I know its a business decision, but its still annoying. I dont plan on boycotting the movie. I might not make opening night, but I still want to see the movie. And have it on DVD.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:23:11
What a corperate [insert choice words of your choice]!
I hope he gets fired from his job. At least the WB will loose tons of money. I strongly urge people to boycott the WB from now on. In addition, watch their movies for free online somewhere (we all know of places that have them). That way we get our fill of entertainment without filling their pocket books.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:25:45
I think this is such crap, man! I cant believe that WB would try and make up for that with lies! Im not gonna boycot or stuff like that but im so p.o ed
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:27:02
Honestly, I do admit he makes a good point, mentioning the fact that if we see HBP this November there would be a long gap in between HBP & DH pt 1, but even so, it still doesnt make us any happier. It certainly doesnt make me any happier because they released sooo much stuff that got everyone so hyped up, like pictures & a TEASER TRAILER, then theyre like "oh, no, well move it." they shouldve waited for a final decision on moving the date back before releasing so many pictures and the teaser trailer =[ and honestly, that did sort of make me feel better, soooo yeah....still disappointed, but not as much.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:28:14
omg this is so dumb. you didnt so this so we wouldnt have to wait longer, ou did this for money. thta is no silver lining. we expected the long wait until deathly hallows. we have to wait the same amount of time for deathly hallows no matter when movie 6 is. that is such a dumb cover up for him to use.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:28:40
emilyecstasyTM- yeah but he purposely failed to mention that it made a two year gap from OOTP to HBP...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:30:22
Waiting..Endless waiting..Ive always been waiting for HBP . The trailers, the pictures and the movie.. How long can they keep me waiting? Lets see it ..
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:32:04
Every person here is going to see the movie dont lie.
Yes it really sucks they pushed the movie back but i rather get a better move in 11 months than a not as great one now.
Yes it was mostly for money but they are in it for that.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:32:11
If you study Contract Law, you will notice that in the United States a verbal contract IS a valid, lawful contract! Releasing a trailer with the date makes it official. According to business ethics, telling your clients you will do one thing and then take it back, its wrong. This is bad business. Period.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:35:11
WE`RE NOT DISSAPOINTED, WE`RE OUTRAGED. I`m happy u guys found one reason to try and make this better, it`s good for dh wait but still doesn`t make this wait any shorter!
AND I bet the second u heard u would make more money it was a done deal! U disgrace moviemakers!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:35:41
I must say from all the comments I have read on this website and many more, that the negative backlash should be a HUGE hint to the WB that they might be commiting commercial suicide. Lets also not forget that they are alright up Sh*** Creek with their new movie the watchers because they screwed up again. I say we all need to unite, come up with one great idea to stick it to em and do it. HERE HERE for Harry Potter.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:38:06
WindInTheTrees- theyre not editing the film any better or anything. Its just going to sit there for a year. So what airs in July would have aired in November. I still think theyd do MUCH better if they released it in December.. they cant release it in november anymore because Twilight took its spot.. because theyre smart and took advantage of WBs dumb move.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:41:40
hmph, even if they didnt just do itt just because of the money, they still did it, AND THATS THE WORST THING EVER!!!!! I had my November 21 planned out perfectly....... and now I have to change the plans to make them accomodate a summer release =(
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:42:05
I think I am going to buy one share of WB, then go to the next stockholders meeting and raise hell. It is nothing more than greed. The film is in the can. It should be shown. Where is Ms JK Rowling in all this? Where is her moral compass? She is our only voice, now. She must speak for us. Until this film is put back on schedule, I am boycotting all Harry Potter purchases, and that includes three deluxe edtions of the Tales of the Beetle Bard. WB films are off limits. Mr. Horn can starve.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:43:25
Mattrixed, dont you have something better to do than to sit around and dispute what everyone has to say? Is this guy your daddy and you need to support him? And I dont mean just this post. Ive seen you give people problems just for the sake of it. As for Mr. Horn, Im going to send 10 letters this time!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:43:50
Ummm.....Hello! Dont give us that crap about waiting 2 years for DH. WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS FROM THE TIME THAT OOP WAS RELEASED! I would much rather wait two years for the DH film to come out as long as it comes out when they say it will!!!! They should just come out and say it: "Screw the fans, we want money!"
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:44:57
Guys, calm down. I think if theyre postponing it this long, its going to be one hell of a movie. And duh, of course its for making money, but its not ALL about making money. I honestly think that HBP has some MAJOR competition for the box-office against The Dark Knight. It was an amazing movie, with a ground-breaking last performance from one of the greatest actors ever (R.I.P. Heath Ledger) and frankly, I think this is a smart move from WB. I think this Horn guy really does care for the fans.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:44:59
I still dont believe in what the media has to say about the push back of the hp movie. BETWEEN THE LINES=MONEY!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:46:39
Lier, lier, lier... anyway. I dont goin to see any WB prodution. Including Harry Potter. I go to spend my time studying and not wasting my time with this.
I am sure they are going to try to keep our attention. Just like the news about Daniel Radcliffe disorder. Oh my God, just in time, the actor has a disease. So evrybody shut up and wait for the movie to make WB and the others more richer that they are now.
Jerks...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:47:21
Im tired of this old man giving us LAME EXCUSES!, I still dont buy any of them, I will say it one more time, I WILL NOT SEE THIS MOVIE IN THEATRES THE OPENNING WEEKEND!! so stop giving us stupid reasons as why YOU OLD MAN decided to change the release date.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:47:35
**cough** Movie 3 **cough** Integrity **cough cough** My Ass **cough cough cough**
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:47:50
He says that the first part of Deathly Hallows goes out on november 2010, but whos to say they wont push it back for the same f***ing reasons I mean the realese date for that movie isnt even oficial thy can do the same s**t to us, I HATE WB!! Im totally boicoting them.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:47:58
BS!!!! Now it will be a 2-year gap between order of the phoenix and half-blood-prince!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:48:17
*sigh* what a bunch of crap. All he does is lie. He did not once mention money there. And although there would be a two year gap between HBP and DH if it was released in november, there is now a two year gap between OOTP and HBP! So what the hell is the difference. Please everyone, still boycott WB untill they change it back, and send as many letters as you can. All the complaints from us are working, they are starting to get worried, keep it up and we may be able to still change it back!! They have angred many harry potter fans, including myself, and we should not give up. They are greedy and we deserve our harry potter in november!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:48:25
texas_hammer- again, lol, theyre not doing ANYTHING different to the movie to make it better. It would be one hell of a movie in november and one hell of a movie in july. And something else to you people who are telling people to stop complaining.. tell that to the people who already wasted money buying plane tickets to england and taking time off of and all for the premiere, k thanks.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:49:53
Hey, at least you still get to go to England.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:50:34
yeaaah right... blablabla... and whats wth that? were still ALL pissed off!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:50:37
BTW, not everybody who is angry is a Communist. Honestly, I think its a terrible business move to switch dates. So many people are going to see this movie that they would have most certainly had a surplus of money. Mattrixed, I love Capitalism, but this is just ridiculous. They can do what they want, but its nothing but greed and a terrible business move. Theyre gonna lose money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:51:58
The frustrating thing is that they wont make more money. Harry Potter is not some small film where people are like, "Heck, its summer and I have nothing else to do - lets go see it." People would see this movie no matter when it was. It just doesnt matter. Go back and look at the previous movies. Are they going to move Deathly Hallows to the summer as well since December supposedly will result in bad profits? Then maybe part two will be moved back a whole year? It is just plain dumb and some people on here are giving WBs CEO too much credit. Just because he is a CEO does not mean that every business decision he makes is right. Look around you - they make terrible mistakes every day that cost their company. Releasing the trailer and telling everyone 3 months before the release dat was just plain wrong. They knew exactly what next summers lineup was going to be for a long time. They had plenty of time to tell us this and yet they didnt. I will be boycotting the opening weekend. You people mention that capitalism is about money (which it is), but it is also about the consumer getting to have their voice heard. If you dont support a companys decisions, you have a say in whether or not they stay in business. That is the other side of the coin.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:52:25
Im not going to england lol. I wish... but I read stories of people who couldnt get their money back because of the false advertising. Honestly, if I were them, Id sue.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:54:38
Babowika said: "If you study Contract Law, you will notice that in the United States a verbal contract IS a valid, lawful contract! Releasing a trailer with the date makes it official. According to business ethics, telling your clients you will do one thing and then take it back, its wrong. This is bad business. Period." I admittedly dont know anything about contract law, but Im pretty sure that WB never made any verbal contract with any fan. Either way, Im sure that announcing release dates is always done tentatively as to avoid any potential contract breach. Also, we are not WBs clients. We buy their product, and until we pay for it, we have no rights as clients. Have you payed for HBP yet?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:55:12
My issue with this decision, like many others, is primarily the timing of it. This is a decision that should have been just as easy to make in January, February at the latest. They could have looked at next summer at that point and seen the effect the writers strike would have on potential profits. They could have predicted that Dark Knight would make more money than ever expected due to the untimely and unfortunate death of Heath Ledger. I could have seen all this coming and made this decision eight months ago, and I know absolutely nothing about business. While the fans would have been upset back in January, it would not have had the extreme reaction they are getting now. Weve seen pushbacks before, and none of them have brought on this sort of reaction. Besides, even if things hadnt turned out the way they predicted they would, all they would have to do is slide it back into this year and totally thrill the fans.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:56:00
and another thing, DONT GIVE UP!! WE CAN DO THIS, IM NOT SAYING THEY WILL CHANGE THE RELEASE DATE BACK TO NOVEMBER, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SHOW THEM A LESSON, besides think about it, if this OLD MAN made a new STATEMENT with all the emails of dissapoitment that means he is SCARED, that is why he decide to make a new stament, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING GOOD!! LETS ALL KEEP UNITED NO MATTER WHAT!! WE CAN DO IT, IF ONE PERSON CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE, THEN WE NEED TO TRY.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:58:27
This is crazy. Large incorporatoins should not be able to abuse their power so much. Honesty, the whole concept for the HP movies wasnt even invented by WB. JK Rowling created the series and WB expanded on that. What WB has done is meerely taken on a "factory job" and filled in the gaps to make a book to movie adaptation. Choice of release date should not even sit with the WB enterprise in this instance. If WB creates their own movie from scratch, than thats fine but in regard to creating a movie from someone elses work, final rights should sit with the creator (based on advice).
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 21:59:14
It really bugged me how mugglecast just laughed at us fans for reacting the way we did to the delay-news. Im almost happy that the episodes arent going to be weekly now, itll take some time before I regain my respect for them. I thought they would be more caring about this, at least Andrew seemed upset at first before everyone started going all "zomg. d13 1ns1d3?! u l0zer." on him. Laura annoyed me the most, how she thought everything we did was bs and how she laughed at us. I took that really personally cause even though I understand WB, it still feels like such a low blow for them to delay the movie so close to the premiere. Sure maybe what we do wont do any good, but it sure as hell shows were we stand.
still love Andrew, Matt and Micah. the rest of the 8 people hosting the last episode, blah. they showed us no respect and I have no respect left for them.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:01:43
Unless WB moves the release date to a date earlier than Summer 2009, then nothing they can say will make me feel better. NOTHING. They lied to us all this time and yeah, it makes me soooo mad.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:01:48
Unless WB moves the release date to a date earlier than Summer 2009, then nothing they can say will make me feel better. NOTHING. They lied to us all this time and yeah, it makes me soooo mad.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:06:46
This whole ordeal has tottaly ruined my life. This has completely upset me and is making me go insane. I love the harry potter books and have been a completely loyal fan. When i heard this news it made me so angry and sad. Everyday since it happened ive been loging on about 20 times a day to see if anything has changed. WB has made a horrible mistake, and though they think they are going to make more money they arent. Dont they realise that this has angred so many fans, and that from the letters they are getting they going to make even less money from so many people boycotting them. If they had a brain at all or really "loved" they fans (like they claim they do) they will change it back. Everyone continue sending letters and e-mails or whatever it is that you can think of, whatever others are saying it will make a difference. All that weve done so far has already made them worried and it hasnt even been a week yet! Be a true fan and do what ever it takes to make them move it back to november!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:09:08
One thing he neglected to mention: A Reason.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:09:36
It ruined your life? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:10:04
F***F***F***F*** Warner BrothersF***F***F*** EVERYONE FOR THEY PUT BACK HARRY POTTER
P.S.JUST TO LET EVERYONE AT Warner Brothers KNOW THAT NO MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IT IN JULY THAN I NOVEMBER IF ANYTHING LESS PEOLE WILL CAUSE COME ON! THEY HAVE ALL BEEN RELEASED NOVEMBER ACEPT FOR HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHINOX I THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE DIRECTOR...BUT THATS JUST ME
PEACE OUT AND TO THE HARRY POTTER CAST I LOVE YOU
Megan
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:10:21
Im still livid. Im still convinced its all over money. Im still boycotting all WB movies until HBP...but theres no way I could seriously boycott HBP itself. I dont have that in me. But I do have a question for Mr. Horn: So now that Watchmen may be delayed too, are you kicking yourself for delaying Half-Blood Prince???
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:12:19
Im sorry, but I dont see what the hell he said to make any difference. So he added some "please"s and some "thank you"s. He still said "Were screwing you out of your movie because were a bunch of greedy pigs." KEEP WRITING IN! DUMBLEDORES ARMY!!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:13:10
Ginmo, Babowika, festy 1986, Anna Smee, lila 10, and sewiesnapples I agree with you all !!!! All of took the words right out of my mouth !!!! For the past week Ive started a facebook group, myspace page, and writen howlers and all that stuff. This is complete BS !!! I cant believe the WB and there money grubbing ass think we will take this !!! And I was listening to Mugglecast while I was eating my lunch and I almost spit out my pizza !!! They have to be in the WB s pocket to not have been angry at ALLL!!! And the guys name with the british accent is failing me at the moment but his answers to how angry he was made me think he was Horns lapdog. I think their p*****. lol And Mattrixed shut the F**k up !!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:19:13
i know they just want more money, but i thank him for his statement...however, the time gap between movie 5 and 6 is now the same difference between the two of them and although he didnt promise, they already said it would be november. i would have made the same move however, cuz i believe in capitalism and he has the right to make more money...in fact it is in his job description and unfortunately, that outweighs his duty to pleasing the fans and people.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:20:17
It is so funny how he never mentioned that they movied it for movie. What an idiot (as hermione would say.) I dont care if he says that he loves the fans and the franchise im still boycotting WB. But i still have to see the movie the day it comes out. It is a tradition.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:20:58
Dear Micha, Jamie, Andrew and Eric:
A couple of points missed on mugglenet podcast are:
November release date will interfere with the merchandising of the dark knight toys for Christmas. Too distracting. Again more $$$$ for WB.
Second, could it be that scripting for Deadly Hallows is not gong well. Further, that it would be too long a period between movies and fans might/will forget? Spacing the movies closer might bridge the time. Again, more $$ for WB.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:22:59
avadakedavratheWB (btw, GREAT name) the british guy is Jamie, and I agree with the Matrixxed sentiment, but maybe in different words. What I will say is that maybe we should be a bit more respectful of other peoples reactions to this terrible news. Ive noticed that some people continue to bash and bash how others feel and honestly, why are you on a Harry Potter website bashing others when you dont care about this either way? Also for those of you who say we cant make a difference with the opposition, this message kind of proves exactly otherwise. Hes noticed, and will continue to notice if we keep this up.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:23:39
Telling me to STFU is rude. Learn manners.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:25:50
The last movie SUCKED. Im not seeing this one.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:27:16
This isnt about the long wait for me between the two, the fact of the matter is they published in a trailer and many other places the movie would come out in November so dont change that! And Alan now says Deathly Hallows will be Novermber 2010 ok fine but dont go change that date now. This is about the fact they changed it after a decission.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:29:45
This is hardly "my life." Im just taking a few minutes out of my day here. This is just a movie release delay...not something that can ruin a life. This isnt killing anyone...its not giving anyone cancer or destroying anyones home. And yes, I am a HP fan, and have been for the past 10 years. The delay does make me a bit sad, because I was looking forward to the movie. But Im not overreacting like some of the people here and calling for boycotts or assassinations.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:31:44
does anyone know an email adress to contact him with?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:32:19
sbwilson2- yeah, its capitalism, but what they dont understand is that the extra millions they would have made in november or even december, are now flushed down the drain because they pissed off sooo many people who will now only see their movie once instead of multiple times. Thousands and thousands of people only seeing it once = loss of millions of dollars. (since ticket prices are so high, they would equal millions) So therefore, they made a horrible business decision. And SofieMalfoy, I TOTALLY agree with you with the MN thing. They just made themselves look stuck-up and rude. Especially that one chick. Umm just a little hint of advice to you podcast people. Its not wise to make fun of the people who visit your website. Thats almost as stupid as WB.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:34:51
In a deranged, confusing way, I understand their reasoning, but I dont think that or the tiny bit of good that comes from the move helps. They ought to have left it on November 21
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:35:36
THANKS !!! chellabella, Yea that was pretty harsh, Ill apologize to Mattrixed everyone is entitled to there opinion. ( I STILL THINK YOUR WRONG !!! LOL) And if I sound like a kid holding a grudge, I just turned 16 2 days ago.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:36:16
Mattrixed- no but DID cost some people couple thousands of dollars...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:39:28
Not only should we boycott, the opening weekend. We should also limit to one or two trips to the theatre. Painful but maybe necessary.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:41:45
Aargh..I hit a wrong button and it posted my comment before it even made sense. ANYWAYS. As I said before, despite the tiny slivers of good that will come from such a move, I think it a bad idea over all, especially as they hyped it up so much. I was EXTREMELY disappointed at the move. It was something I had been looking forward to during this winter, and they should have realized how angry and upset their fans would get. However, I do wonder at the sanity of those who want to boycott WB for this. As annoyed as I am by it, I do realize that in the grand scheme of things its a very trivial problem, and not worth fussing about for long. I have no intention of boycotting WB or the movie. To me its not worth the trouble. The WB execs will do what they wish, whether or not we fuss or complain. They still have plenty of buyers/customers/fans. So, to summarize...very disappointed, but I realize Im going to survive it, and still have a full, happy life without HBP coming out in November.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:42:06
Oh Alan Horn, you ugly, selfish bastard. No matter what you say we wont believe you. We see that youre cracking. We can tell by all of the statements youre making. Well win. The D.A will overrule you.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:45:21
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:47:13
what a bunch of kids all of you are.
of course the delay was done because of money, whatever reason drives all of the firms in the world?
.... he does not care about fans but he has the **** to speak to them.
the delay is announced, you cannot do a thing about it, there is no need for insults against that guy.
im a fan like all of you, and if the delay was a shock, nevertheless insults to him wont change the fact.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:49:17
Alan Horn ~ Ms. Roonilfan bids you good day sir, and to keep your abnormally large and greedy hand out of other peoples pockets. ATROCITY!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:50:19
lovely.i love how they just lie straight to our faces. all they want is more money. money is all they ever want. they dont want to keep the fans happy. they dont truthfully care about us. all they want is what is best for them. whats the big deal with releasing the movie this November. ok well perhaps the other films being released around the same time will not generate as big of sales. but seriously this is millions of dollars maybe into the billions worth of money and yet they feel it is such a big loss. i wonder how those big pompous high up folks from WB would react if a good majority of HP fans truly boycotted WB. have fun with that Mr. Horn!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:50:49
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:54:09
I really dont think people are "overreacting." Given that the trailer just came out a couple of weeks ago, as did the list of release dates for all countries, its pretty ridiculous that WB has decided to push the movie back as far as 8 months. Keep in mind that they apparently were seriously considering the move 3-4 weeks ago and the trailer came out just over 2 weeks ago. You would think that if they were considering making such a move that they would have held off on releasing the release date information. Thats why people feel like theyve been smacked in the face with this change and are rightfully angry about it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:55:35
BULL CRAP
emails, calls, petitions, and facebook groups still seem like a phenomenal idea
XOXOXO
--I HATE WB 4 eternity
hey i think that if there was a movie about WB it should be rich gold digging BS-ers
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:57:16
I dont think hes sorry at all. Yea its good we wont have to wait as long in between movies but think of how long we have been waiting for this one. And now he pushed it back. All a big-business ploy to get more money. Impersonally will be boycotting its opening weekend for the simple reason that it is the only reason why they moved it. They want it to be another Batman... idiots :(
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 22:57:54
Whatever..if you want to make it better...move it back to November 21st or at least this year!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:01:14
This is bull. We were EXPECTING to have to wait two years between HBP and DH1. But they released tons of HBP media (and an awesome teaser), got us all excited, and then DROPPED THIS BOMB on us. They shouldnt have pushed the movie back this close to the release date. Its a major disappointment since weve all had HBP on the brain since the beginning of summer.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:06:40
What a load of crap. You know, stuff happens and things get delayed. I get that, and while I was disappointed to have to wait longer to see HBP, I wasnt half as annoyed as I was reading the response from WB. If they felt like patronizing the fans, why not do so when they made the announcement in an attempt to soften the blow? What kind of brilliant PR move was it to wait until people are already ticked, and then provide a lame and pointless excuse? Were they actually hoping to slide an 8-month delay under the radar of adoring, literate fans?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:07:57
I highly doubt you are that sincere. Do you honestly think people saw Dark Knight b.c it was released in the summer? Hell no. So you are not going to make that much for HBP b.c it will be released in the summer.
We all know this is your reason, if the movie is complete; why cant you release it this year? Go get a job you can actually handle doing, maybe like Mcdonalds or something.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:09:17
The only good thing about this is the gap between movie six and seven? Yeah, because thats the only thing that they can say about this! Other than that, its all about money! They just dont want to look like greedy b_stards! We already knew about the 2 year span between HBP & DH. It`s just the same situation. Overall - WE HAVE TO WAIT.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:09:20
http://www.warner bros.com/main/help/custom er_ser vice.html (delete spaces) go here onto the WB website and leave a comment on the new release date.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:13:32
This is some BULL!! This does not demolish the fact that my birthday plans are RUINED!!! MY HOPES AND DREAMS HAVE GONE DOWN THE DRAIN!!! The drain. I really am thinking about boycotting the first week. If the whole potter community does it. Im so down. So....LETS DO IT!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:13:51
im starting to get over it, im not gonna let some delay get in the way of my summer. i love the HP series movies and all, and if it really does remove that massive gap so be it, ill be fine with july 2009, id be happier with an earlier elese, but what are you going to do. hes read your letters, heard your complaints, lets mature abit. And im one of the people who was furious. im willing to move on. we wanted a moie, were getting one. dont have a cow. lets grow up. we sound like 3 year olds.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:19:55
phia991 !!!!! I agree with you !!!! In the beginning, I really wasnt into the whole boycott thing, but after seeing how crushed people are including some of my closest friends. (One was even hoping to attend that royal premiere thing) So yeah, Im in too.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:24:41
FF_Voldemort- um no. We dont sound like three year olds. We sound like people who have actual logical reasons as to what they are saying complete crap and reasons to how theyre decision is probably the worst business decision they can actually make. No. Its not a good decision, its a bad one if you actually think about it instead of just falling for their little excuses. And if it was really that grand of an idea, the Twilight people would have taken the summer release instead of shooting like a bullet to the November one. (thousands of people only seeing it once instead of multiple times = millions of dollars lost that they would have been making in november... its simple if you do the math. I said this in a previous comment) And yeah, they read our letters and our letters proved that its starting to get to them. It wasnt getting to them, they wouldnt feel the need to keep coming up with BS statements to try and butter us up. SO, we gotta keep writing those angry letters just to annoy them more. Even if theyre too stubborn to change the date to at least December, at least I would feel good that we actually TRIED to do something instead of just sitting back. You know, in a way were actually trying to HELP WB... were trying to get it in their heads so they can catch their mistake in time and fix it before it really does impact them badly.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:25:11
Emmerson should put his statement on the wall of shame!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:28:10
haha I hate this guy, he is a greedy little git and he even trys to make himself look better about changing the release date with this hollow statement. "If I may offer a silver lining: there would have been a two-year gap between
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:29:47
Uhhh 3 year olds? I think that its better for the HP fandom to voice their opinions rather than sit around and be complacent and take this crap. This decision was made WAY too late, and we have every right to be angry. We SHOULD make a stand against this greedy BS decision made by the WB execs.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:30:09
They dont give a flying fart about us. Boycott the opening weekend and let it do way less than the average 85 million that Hp is accustomed opening to. If the opening week end shows revenues of less than 50 million it would be a victory for us coz it would be a heckuva lot lower than the 85.2 million that Azkaban opened to. We need to take a stance and protect the films because if we let them get away with us they will push back both DH movies for the same idiotic reason. Wait until 2nd week to go and see the movie. It will hurt them more than us if opening week end takes were low. And whats even sadder is that from what I have been discerning about the cuts and alterations from the movie that appeared online, this film would be just as rushed and choppy as OOTP was. Keep up the pressure guys lets show them the true power behind the name Potter. Long live Dumbledores Army
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:35:04
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:35:41
Please, every one calm down. There has been more than enough time to cool your heads by now. Its a MOVIE. Is a movie really worth getting SO angry over. Ruined your life? Assassinations? Please. Go read, spend time with your friends, practice and instrument, call a loved one. Some things that really, you know, matter.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:42:28
its singular B.S.!!
he wants money thats all
>=[
but i wont boycott it at all
i love HP too much to do that
but im still horribly pissed off!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:45:08
Id like everyone to think about something for a second.
What if this had been Batman fans they did this to. Made them wait nearly a year for the Dark Knight when it was so close !!
Yup, all those thirty year old men, would start W.W. 3!!!
This would never fly with anything else, Im just angry they think this can fly without a true explination !!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:45:57
GTFO! Its all about the MONEY, honey. Who are you trying to fool?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:46:18
I dont care what you people say about us over reacting and us needing to calm down. We have stuck with harry potter the whole time. Harry Potter is a part of our life. We read the books watch the movies and we have become very fond of it. We need to stick together and fight for Harry. No matter what others say we are making a difference, because if we werent why would they have made a statement about our "disapointment" (translation: our outrage) about the new release date. They are getting nervous! Kepp sending letters, emails, and signing petitons. DA all the way!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:48:30
tonks_394- It being just a movie isnt the point. You may not do anything, but Im a stubborn person and I, along with thousands of other people, dont want WB thinking that theyve made a great decision after all once July comes around. I want them to be like "Crap..." because I also enjoy Karma.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:52:32
We need to take a stand with Half Blood Prince because if they get away with this they would do the same thing with DH 1 as well. For those who see WB making a wise business decision in doing this consider this for a mo Which studio would start an advertising campaign , launch the trailer and hype a movie up for fans only to do a 180 on them. Where is the logic in that?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:54:26
ok Alan Horn frankly... I dont have any interest in what you have to say anymore, his excuses are weak and fake
we dont get anymore than what we would have in november
only they are benifiting this!!!! for money
he needs to stop making rediculous excuses and just say
we want more money and we dont care at all about the fans
so intead of talking junk Ill just say the truth >.< hes only making it worse
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-19 23:58:40
http://www.warner bros.com/main/help/custom er_ service.html (delete spaces) leave your thoughts here with WB. Let them know how angry you are. Make them see how wrong they were. Stick with Harry and try to change it back! its been less than a week and they are already getting nervous. WE CAN DO IT! If not novmber, (becuase we probly wont get that anymore because of fing twilight) at least december or janurary!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:00:57
OK Folks Im pissed too but hey lets face it do we really want to miss HBP? NOOOOOO. So this is the solution. When HBP comes out in theaters next summer simply purchase a ticket a non warner bros picture and then go into HBP. This will throw off the domestic ticket sales like crazy if enough people do it. Besides we will effectively be giving our money to someone other than WB yet still get to see HBP!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:02:57
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!!! The truth of the matter is that WB is EXPLOITING Half Blood Prince because WB does not have a blockbuster for next summer other than Half Blood Prince; furthermore, they are happy with this fiscal year for the success of Dark Night, thats right!!! UNETHICAL SOBS!!!!!! Its all money!!! They do not respect the fans!!! BOYCOTT ALL WB PRODUCTS UNTIL SUMMER 2009!!!!!!! DONT BUY A THING FROM WB!!! If money is the issue, well they will not get a penny from me!!!! And to all of you that say that the movie does not belong to us.. well IT DOES!!! I buy the movie, I pay for it, it is MY money that pays their bills!! Without us fans Harry Potter is NOTHING hear that? Go kiss WB butt if you like but I wont buy a thing from them until next summer!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:07:29
Three words: Dont See Watchmen
The WB is banking on this movie to bring in the green !!!! IF this could somehow flop because of us, the WB would forced to listen to us !!!
And yes Beth_28!!! WE CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:12:11
Hey, your all not thinking clearly. Think about it, even if their motivations are strictly money, the best thing to do is NOT intentionally psst off the fans. Perhaps they have to postpone the movie. Im not angry in the least... just disappointed and boycotting is just stupid.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:17:45
Oh No, we have another politicians running for President jest what we needed! Like politicians they never hold out on there prominence and weasel themselves out of everything! If your going to make an excuse for the postponement of the Harry potter movie at least make it a convening one not oh the writers strike delayed the movie until July. How come you didnt tell us there was going to be a delay in the production and push back the date during the writers strike then! Better excuse Needed here!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:24:52
how idiots does he think we are exactly? He thinks we didnt notice that till he said it? well guess what, we did, it just didnt comfort us at all, you idiot prick
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:28:12
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:29:39
I believe him in that nobody intended to upset the fans. Everything is about making money, thats just the way it is, so the decision to move the movie to next summer where is will do much better at the box office makes sense. Its not all about the fans. Thank you Alan Horn for a sincere response to our disappointment.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:33:51
AndrewW- theres no way in hell theyd be making more money in the summer. Thats why everyone is P.Oed. And his response is complete BS. God I cant believe theres people out there who are actually buying that crap. Just what WB wants...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:37:48
EVERYONE LISTEN UP! If you havent heard about it already, there is an ingenious campaign appearing called the Howler Campaign!
Read about it here: http://hbpnojuly.blogspot .com/
I really think this will up! Letter writing has worked before, why not now?
This whole thing is an outrage, I am disgusted with Warner Bros behavior and I too will be boycotting Warner Bros movies until Harry Potter is released.
Alan Horn here is making pointless excuses, and to be honest they made me even more furious. All of this is simply greed. Even though they would have made just as much releasing it now as they would in the summer. But now, Im not even doing to attend Opening Night. This is a disgrace.
Join the Howler Campaign and make a difference!
~For Dumbledores Army
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:40:49
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:42:20
hes so full of crap...he couldnt care less about us...if he did he wouldnt have moved the movie in the first place...which was of course, as we all know, to make more money. I am still not going to WB movies...Im still pissed!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:48:41
ginmo- All Im saying is WB did what they thought was best, they didnt intend to disappoint the fans. Most people are POd because they just dont want to wait. I dont like the change either, but everyone needs to get over it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 00:54:36
Most people are reacting emotionally, angry that they wont get to see their movie. Thats understandable. Then from the other end I hear the voice of reason mostly in the shape of
"Of course WB wants to make the most off the film so shut up about it! What do you expect?"
What should we expect? Thats the real question to me.
Movies, of course, are big business but movies at their heart and soul are art and entertainment. To all the cool level headed folk out their telling the devoted fans to calm down, think for a minute what happens to an industry based on art that only cares about money. The quality of movies, in general is already on a downward trend and has been for some time. Now I see a public and unabashed decision from executives to can a FINISHED movie for 8 MONTHS based exclusively on money, when it KNOWS how heartbroken its fanbase is going to be.
That is a huge warning sign to me.
The HP franchise has made billions of dollars for WB... BILLIONS! And where did that money come from? The pockets of devoted fans. What I see is fans loyal to thier favorite story. The storytellers then, (and yes, because if their industry, WB has the same resposibility as a storyteller since they, in essence control the distribution of the story) instead of seeing the fans devotion as a sign that they should be equally devoted, see it instead as an assurance that they cant possibly kill the golden goose. Instead, "maybe if we beat the goose," thinks the WB, "well get more golden eggs." No... this is a bad bad sign people. And I HOPE it backfires on them.
I hope that the movie gets leaked to the internet (which is very likely considering the length of time theyre postponing), the boycott idea catches on big time and HP fans get a place in history as saving hollywood from its own destruction by causing WB to make a fraction in July of what it would have made in November. If that happens then maybe well have a chance of seeing some decent film over the...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:03:17
Theyre trying to the best of their abilities to do what now? Base it off JKRs vision? I dont know if its just me, but I do NOT remember JKRs vision having a skunk hair, Mcgonnagal looking Narccisa, or Harry flirting with waitresses. It included Moaning Myrtle, but definitely not "drug parallels".
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:04:42
Thats a load of BULL CRAP (for lack of a better term)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:08:04
Alan, Alan, Alan...
sort of pathetic how dim and limited his understanding of the harry potter fanbase is. You would think that he would, since he is making 7 figures running a billion dollar corporation familiarize himself the hundreds of millions of fans that financially fuel one of his studios major cash cows. But clearly that is not the case considering he went ahead and moved it back anyway. Did he think we would just be like, "Ah shucks... well, ok."
Im really proud to be an HP fan based on the outcry thats gone up.
AND!!! ...it looks like we at least got his attention, huh? >;-) HP FANS DONT LET UP!!!!!!!! CONTINUE WRITING. CONTINUE SIGNING and most of all KEEP TRUE TO YOUR WORD TO BOYCOTT!!!!!!!
I was pissed before... but NOW... with this lame non-apology he issued??? Oh please! Just ridiculous. I find it offensive that he thinks were so dumb and easily pacified.
Are you all as insulted as I am... almost even more by this latest statement than moving it in the first place!!! Wow... just amazing.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:12:17
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:16:01
Just like I suspected, he had no idea what he was getting into when they delayed Half-Blood Prince. Apparently, now someone has told him that the fans are important, but still the desicion hasnt been changed. And why is he saying that "WE have to wait a little longer"??? THAT JERK HAS ALREADY SEEN THE FILM!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:21:48
Thanks Till... :) Its just so... frustrating... especially reading the "get over it, its a movie" comments on the abc and usatoday news sites. I mean, of COURSE its just a movie... but I feel like its bigger than that, you know? Seeing art and filmmaking and storytelling slain at the hands of corporate greed? It puts my wand in a knot. :) Stay the course everyone!!! Rare is the opportunity where we can actually make a difference!!! And with our numbers and outrage.......... I feel we actually CAN! Dumbledores Army!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:25:33
Woe that did not take long at all!!! come on were getting to them almost there! almost! send in emails!!! Theres a petition.... http://www. petitionspot.com/petition s/harrypotter6 Also,
here is the contact info for some folks at WB....
Everyone, please contact these individuals to complain. Make your voices heard.
Domestic Contact:
Susan Fleishman,
818-954-191 9
susan.fleis hman@warnerbros.com
International Contacts
Jayne Trotman,
020 7984 5222
jayne.trotman@warnerb ros.com
Desiree Finnegan,
818-954-3397
desiree.fin negan@warnerbros.com
Head of Harry Potter Production Publicity:
Vanessa Davies
011-44-192-368- 5131
vanessa@hpfilms.c o.uk But most importantly send in howlers!!! we can overflow there mail room by doing this (make sure to adress the letters to Alan Horn!:) http://hbponjuly.blogspot .com/ By the way make sure to take out the spaces in the emails and links come on we are getting to them WE CAN WIN
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:26:15
Art and filmmaking slain? Its only been delayed, not butchered. Stop overreacting (because thats exactly what you are doing, especially with your repeated calls to boycott).
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:42:30
What is every one pissed? Capitalism works folks. Havent you got the memo?
Its people like you that got JK Rowling, even though she wont admit it, to speed through the last book. I curse you for it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:42:36
We live in a society of slippery slopes. WBs decision to move the Harry Potter film back 8 months came out of a discussion that went something like, "If we move it back we can make more money in the new fiscal year." "You know, the fans are going to be upset." "It doesnt matter, they are still going to go and see it regardless of when we release it!" murmurs of agreement around the room. The point is, this decision to move the film back is evidence of a larger problem: That fans themselves dont matter... only their money does. In that sort of climate... how long before other areas of quality suffer... Art and Filmmaking slain? ...actually, yes. That is NOT an overreaction. That is what happens when a corporate groupthink such as a movie studio starts to make decisions based solely on the bottom line rather than loyalty to fans and what is best for THEM. This sort of thing is especially dangerous when the corporations product is art. They dont make toasters, people... they make art and art is what makes this world beautiful. What you call "overreacting" I call being able to see the big picture.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:47:41
But what is the based on? Where you there in the meetings? or is this "fact" created by disappointment.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:50:37
It bothers me that the WB are sending their goons to come to sites like these and post comments of how stupid we sound for protesting in what we believe in!....Well send as MUCH e-mails,letters and make as much calls with our complaints as we want to WB!....because WE can!...Its good cause we like a challenge!....
"It is time for us all to stand and cheer for the doer, the achiever - the one who recognizes the challenge and does something about it"
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 01:57:55
You Sound like George Bush, Creating fiction to fuel your own agenda.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:10:09
Im sorry? Did you ask me if I was at the meeting? Did you really ask me that? ...seriously? Wow... Um, no... I wasnt invited to that particular meeting, mark. I mustve missed the memo on that one also or I was doing lunch with Angie and Brad and couldnt make it. See my description of that meeting is one of those things thinking people do, you know, when looking at the problem from different angles; they use something called deductive reasoning to imagine what MIGHT have been said in such a meeting? Sorry if that that was too outside the box for you. Ill try to be more linear and literal from now on. (or Ill just ignore you) And as far as dissappointment goes... to be really honest, I didnt even know the movie was supposed to come out in November - seriously. I was a big fan of the books and I think the movies are a fun addendum to them. I only became interested in the situation when I read a news article on the first statement released by the studio and was amazed at how they simply, without any sort of qualms or compassion, said that they had a finished movie and were holding it back for 8 months in the hopes of making more money. It disgusted me. Am I disappointed? Yep! I saw the trailer and, sure I want to see the movie. But this is a question of integrity, in my opinion. Oh and capitalism DOES work, and one of its cornerstones is "the customer is always right" ie MAKE THE CUSTOMER HAPPY! Looks like WB, in its haste to grab the most profit, forgot one of the basic principles of consumerism. Ironic.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:15:25
we are getting there!! i am sending about 15 howlers tomorrow and i have already sent about 10 emails!! Make are vocies heard we can do this!!
Join the howler campaign please. WE can make a diffrence.
-Dumbledore s Army
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:27:49
lol while I agree that Mr Horn looks like a slimy businessman...I am now over this...I mean yeah it upset me at first...but then I thought about it and the chances of me seeing it in November were scarce anyways...I work in retail and October-December are EXTREMELY busy for me...I dont mind it being in July...I guess I have more patience than some of you on this board...no offense...as for the comment will they move Deathly Hallows now too...I will quote my mom...she always told me not to borrow trouble til trouble borrows you...lol cant believe I just sounded like my mom there...but anyways I have decided I will not boycott WB...or HBP...cant believe how seriously you guys are taking it...I mean its only a movie...its not life or death...and yes I am a HUGE fan of Harry Potter...I have every book and all 5 movies...I have seen the last 4 at the theatres several times and will see the next one several times...its sad that you guys dont share my love for Harry Potter...you say WB is hurting Harry Potter but the ones who are calling for a boycott of it will be what hurts Harry Potter not WB...sorry not trying to hurt anyones feelings but this topic got old to me last week...it happened MOVE ON PEOPLE!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:33:25
we will not just move on. what they did was wrong!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:34:50
What bullshit. A little!?! A year is more than a little.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:36:01
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:36:19
there right!!! there is a silver lining! instead of waiting two years! we only have to wait a year and a half!!! omg!!!! we will now forget about the slap in the face you gave us and the greedy move you made because we have 6 months less to wait for deathly hallows! woooo!!-----fudge you alan horny for money---thank you spitting on us again
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:38:11
we are getting there!! i am sending about 15 howlers tomorrow and i have already sent about 10 emails!! Make are vocies heard we can do this!! Join the howler campaign please. WE can make a diffrence.
-Dumbledore s Army
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:44:08
Oh Zil, you are the best!!!!! This goes out to all you people who think we are over reacting..... It seems like these days companies are forgetting who pays their bills. By the way, it is the paying customer. It is not the stockholders, producers, etc. THE CUSTOMERS. It used to be that way. Companies seem to be forgetting that these days. I think that most of us would have been disappointed if they had told us that there were post-production problems, but not livid mad like we are. I COMPLETELY understand that they are a company and they need to think about the bottom line, however, when you come out and say that it is purely for profit, that is aggravating. Most HP fans do not come from lots of money but we were planning on spending our hard earned money on movies, products, games and etc. It is not our problem that there was a writers strike, maybe if they were paying their writers fairly, they wouldnt have had that problem. I have talked to many people about this situation that are not HP fans and most agree that what they have done is not right. One last thing, why must people be so rude and insulting about other peoples opinions and feelings? Maybe for some people they have little happiness in their lives and this was something to look forward to. I respect your opinion, let us have ours. I will be boycotting WB and their affiliates.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:48:34
I agree with SofieMalfoy. Alan Horns statement is a direct result of our persistent emails, boycotting, complaints, etc. Its having an impact so keep it up! We might not be able to change anything but WB made a really inconsiderate, terrible decision and now they must suffer the consequences. The consequence of upsetting HP fans to this extent is extreme dissatisfaction, boycotts, and bad press. This will teach them to underestimate the strength and unity of HP fans. Hopefully the delay will lose money for them (due to our boycotts) rather than earn them the winfall that theyre anticipating. Grrrrr! NOT HAPPY!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:49:21
Listen people i need your to listen to me very carefully!This Hate against WB is not going to give nothing very nice in fact if you are continouing like that you are going to destroy the Deathly Hallows.Havent you get it why they moved the date.My brother works in WB and he told me that there are couple of reasons.
1.What Fox television have said about Equus is thruth, yes WB are helping Dan but they are afraid that they are going to loose the litle children as an audiense.
2.Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince is needing the all the money because the last movie is going to need a lot and this what FANS ARE DOING TRYING TO BOYCOTT HARRY POTTER IS THAT WHAT YOUR WANT.TO DESTROY THE 7 AND THE 8 MOVIE.OR MAYBE THEY WONT CUT IT DOWN BUT ITS GOING TO BE WITH CRAPPY EFFECTS SO PLEASE I AM BEGGING AS A HARRY POTTER FAN TO HARRY POTTER FANS IS THERE SOMETHING GOOD IN YOUR STOP THIS MADNESS AND START COUNTING THE DAYS FOR HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE.
P.S SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 02:52:54
DONT BOYCOTT THE OPENING WEEKEND! DONT EVEN SEE THE MOVIE AT ALL THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES ON THE INTERNET YOU CAN WATCH IT FOR FREE A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER IT COMES OUT(BOOTLEG OF COURSE SO NOT THAT GREAT QUALITY)
watch-movies. net
sidereel.com
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:00:48
HEY DOUBLE_A YOU ARE AN IDIOT WHO IS TRYING TO GET FROM THE OTHER UNHAPPINESS HISS HAPPINESS.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:05:09
what haripotar94? that didnt even make sense?lol
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:05:26
well isnt that just dandy. that sounds real nice and all
EXCEPT for the thinly veiled lack of integrity that goes along with milking harry potter for all that its worth
shame. especially since one of the most important themes in the book is integrity.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:08:30
Thanks Ginny4Harry and well said. You too bbb. One of the things that amazed and freaked me out the most was how brazen their statement was. They simply told us they were doing it for money. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR US!!! It was almost like they had gone insane. Like, they are so completely unaware at this point that they FORGOT that they are supposed to at least LOOK like they give a heck about the fans! Just awful. And btw to all those naysayers: I dont expect studio execs to NOT think about the bottom line. In fact, it would be pretty ridiculous if they didnt think about it - thats their job. This is a clear cut situation of execs going TOO FAR! Making sure your corporation is doing well is one thing. Pillaging a loyal fan base for what? A projected 10%? 15%? 5% larger profit margin? Thats something else entirely Didnt they just break every record possible with Dark Knight? Greed! THIS is why a boycott is the only thing that will work because money is the only thing they care about. Even just a boycott of the opening weekend coupled with a promise to only see the movie once rather than multiple times (which is what REALLY boosts a movies return - see: Titanic) would do it. I for one will honor a boycott.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:09:50
Lets face it - if Warner Bros had kept quiet the fans would have felt ignored Now theyve made a statement the fans are still complaining. The decision has been made so lets just enjoy Harry whenever & in whatever way we can, books, current films, new pics, interviews etc., & anticipate with pleasure the remaining films to come. Harry is Harry & thank you JK Rowling for giving him to us.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:10:52
If the folks at WB had been a small time business that was hard for money, this all would be so much more understandable. But theyre not. They already have billions of dollars. What people need to understand is yes, business is about cash, but when they have so much as it is (that they wouldnt have without us to begin with), you should think of the fans too. What they are basically doing is choosing the cash over the fans. The cash that they already have plenty of. And whether it be Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord Of The Rings -- in general, its just WRONG. WB needs to be taught a lesson. Because seriously, what if we dont do anything? All the more they wont take us seriously the next time around, and theyll once again feel free to do whatever they want with OUR Potter films. Please, join this facebook group for The International Friends Of Harry Potter: http://www.face book.com/group.php?gid=23 519089579. We are planning live protests all across the world that is to happen at the same hour on the same day. We are trying to get media coverage, we have a press release sent out and everything. We already have 1000+ members, volunteering from places like the USA and Canada to the UK, Italy, and Egypt. We have shirts. We are planning to DO SOMETHING about this. Even if we cant change WBs mind, the most we can do is embarrass the HELL out of the WB in the publics eye for their greed. We have already had a mention in the LA Times: http://latimesblogs.lat imes.com/herocomplex/2008 /08/harry-potter-fa.html and ABC News: http://www.abc news.go.com/Technology/st ory?id=5605992. And the protest hasnt even happened yet. When Harry had a disagreement with the Ministry, did he just sit around and take it? Did he calm down because "Mugglecast" said so? No, he formed his own army, Dumbledores Army to stand up to people who were greedy and only cared about themselves. Please, the more people we can get, the more of a chance this just might work. Its what Harry would do.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:10:52
SHUT THE F*CK UP AND MOVE THE MOVIE BACK TO NOV!!! I HATE YOU ALL
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:13:22
yeah, jew. money money money money
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:15:54
SHUT UP Mattrixed no one wants 2 b nice 2 wb let us b angry u F*cktard
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:20:45
we have them sweating now. all this talk about finding ways to keep money away from them. this message was just a attempt to reassure us so then we would give up on our boycoot and actions. YA RIGHT!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:38:08
potter93 in my country your statement would be called idiotic like some idiot who is bumping in a wall and he doesnt know when to stop.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:40:52
Well said, thelexirumor! Also: At first, I thought the notion of The Studio sending ringers onto the site to malign our efforts and discourage our spirit was ridiculous. Now I think its ridiculous to NOT think they would. Especially here and The Leaky Cauldron since both are the hubs for the disgruntled masses to congregate. Its interesting how Mattrixed is posting on multiple threads and every time its with proWB sentiments.I think hes either a bored instigator or a Studio Ringer. Either way its ridiculous. How you can side with the studio on this one is beyond me. And yes, on the one hand it IS just a movie... but really, its MORE than that, it really is - its about taking a stand against corporate greed. Also... a major film studio, Id imagine, wouldnt make this sort of decision without planning. So they have known for awhile they were going to do this to the fans. Thats why there hasnt been any major publicity started. They might have known pretty far back, in fact... but perhaps were anticipating having the fans look forward to it... then taking it away so they could look forward to it again... would create some sort of slingshot effect... PLEASE!!! LETS MAKE SURE WE DONT PROVE THEM RIGHT!!!!!! We MUST show them what happens when they disregard the fans. The ONE thing we DO know... is that they sure as heck werent anticipating a boycott! By following through, we show the corporate system that it MUST respect the little guys!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:56:44
this friggin anouncement has made me even madder.
they know that all the harry potter fans are pissed off so they try and justify it by saying theyre closing the gap between movie six and the first half of movie 7? please. i know that harry potter was designed for younger readers but most of us arent and are therefore not manipulated by the b*llshit that wb says. who do they think we are? i love harry potter but i will NOT be going to see it in the cinema. if hbp needed to be moved because it needed more editing or filming i would have been upset but atleast it would be justifiable because the final product would be up to everyones standards. but im afraid that it is obvious that wb just wants more money and, because of the writers strike, they believe that less movies will be released in summer 2009 which will make more people watch their movie. i cannot express how bitterly disapointed i am that after all the money they make they still want more. everyone keep writing to wb. we may not be able to have the date changed back but itll certainly psst them off. also dont go and see there movies. i have vowed not to and i promise that i will not. WB ARE MONEY ORIENTATED SCUM!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 03:56:50
Auntie B, youre right. if they had said nothing we would have felt ignored. Now... we just feel insulted. Alan horn issuing a statement makes evident two things: 1) He is REALLY VERY clueless when it comes to Harry Potter since he clearly doesnt understand its fans. Did he really think that statement would assuage our feelings of betrayal??? Wow. And 2) The outcry HP fans are making is NOT going unnoticed... but its not a victory yet. Its only step one. step two is making them legitimately concerned about losing money. The trouble is... since they probably have been planning this move they are committed... if they get scared,the types of things they will say behind closed doors might be, "But we CANT release in Nov... we havnt done the marketing." HP fans..... lets try to get the movie in November but prepare yourselves for it not happening... and if it doesnt happen and we dont make them feel it in their purses come July... we will have lost and they will have won and then they will know they can stick it to fans WHENEVER they want! Please. Lets not let that happen.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:05:13
Siriusly_HP if you are not going to see it in the cinema then you dont deserve your nickname and you because of people like your we wont have DH because its going to have small budget and the only thing WB is gong to do is to dealay DH for years so please lets go and watch the movie.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:11:23
Trust me, haripotar... WB is not going to CANCEL Deathly Hallows. the HP franchise is the studios biggest money maker ever. The only thing that will happen if we make a serious dent in HBP box office is the studio will realize that it cant mess around with Harry Potter fans cause we wont stand for it and so will beef up DH budget to make sure it gets done right!! Also, heres a little cnbc clip that brought out another money angle that I hadnt thought of... that WB is trying to make its 2008 year better by saving on advertizing costs. Dang Dark Knight. Now I wish I hadnt gone to see it 3 times. :-/ http://www.cnbc.com/id/15 840232?video=824739889&pl ay=1
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:14:41
Zil if mad fans decide not to go everything is over because WB have said to the HP producersa that if they dont kick the 900 million HP is out.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:28:28
Oh no November 2010 For Deathly Hallows?!
November = No money right WB are you going to push that film back too!
Ugh Im STILL mad!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:47:40
No money for WB= means no money for DH= means low budget or delaying the money for year.
In conclusion Harry Potter fans loose the wonderful acting of the trio and the some other actors and the only thing that Harry Potter fans wins is tears alot of tears because of their stupidity to attack the one gave them the best moments in their lifes.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 04:50:44
haripotar are you crazy? small budegt me ass!!! havent we all just stated that the only reason they are doing this is for the money? if we all dont go and see it and protest against the release date think of the press we will get and the bad press warner bros will get. there is no way in the world wb would EVER not release DH and even if for some reason they didnt another company would by the rights and make the movie. so please dont sit there and tell me that doing nothing will get results. these people are money orientated scum and if they lose even some of the money that they will make from the last three harry potter movies then i will be happy. btw people send howlers to both warner bros and alan horn. DONT LET THEM PUSH US AROUND!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:02:45
Siriusly_HP I understand you anger but yet you say other company can do it
ARE YOU CRAZY WB IS THE BEST MOVIE COMPANY AND EVEN SOME OTHER COMPANY DOES IT THE CAST WONT BE THE SAME THE MONEY WONT BE THE SAME SO PLEASE CALM DOWN AND IM NOT ASKING YOU TO DO NOTHING BUT NOT GOING TO SEE THE MOVIE IS NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ONLY ATTACKING YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE.Who are raising their children with their money.Do you know how many WB will have to fire.Do you know how many families are you going to destroy.Just because you cant wait eleven months. My Grandma is diyng and shes been left a year to live dont you think she cant wait for this year to die.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:11:25
Why does this idiot continue to babble about the gap between HBP and DH? Does he honestly not realise we dont care, or is he just stupid? Stick your silver lining where the sun dont shine, Alan - you slimy git.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:11:50
There would never have been this problem if greedy Hollywood paid thier writers what they deserve. After all without them there is no film. As usual it is the suits that earn the money and the talent that get screwed.
As for this press release, how stupid do they think we are? A few nice works and another I love you and all will be forgiven.
No Mr Horn not until the movie is delivered when originally promised!
Perhaps we should refuse to pay for any of their products and send them an IOU for eight months later!!!! (although personally im boycotting all WB merchandise and movies)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:14:26
Boycott WB movies but dont Boycott HBP.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:19:36
WB loves HP fans, but they love our money more. Yes, WB has the right to move back the release. However, why put the fans through this? Releasing teasers, trailors and whatever else only to take it away. It was foolish of them. There is no technical difficulty, the film has been through the production process and now it will sit on a shelf until July next year. I think WB has made a mistake. The hype around the last book is rapidly declining, kids are moving on. Shelving the movie may in fact damage its potential to make $$.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:21:42
WELL HARRY POTTER FANS WHAT DO YOU THINK IF HBP HAS LITTLE MONEY WHAT WOULD WB DO WELL THEY WILL CLOSE DH BUT NO OTHER COMPANY CAN DO IT BECAUSE WB HAS THE LICENSE SO BECAUSE OF YOUR THERE WILL BE NO MORE HARRY POTTER MOVIES OR IF THERES GOING TO BE THEY ARE GOING TO BE WITH REALLY LOW QUALUTY.
SO STOP THIS BOYCOTING WHILE YOU CAN 11 MONTHS IS NO TIME.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:23:33
If Deathly Hallows part 1 is due out in November 2010 whats stopping him announcing that date offically nearer the time then delaying it till summer 2011 in a bid to make more money again. Then wed have to wait just as long between 6 and part 1 of 7 as we will have had to wait between 5 and 6. If thats turns out to be the case then saying we will have to wait less between the two movies in his statement will have been a lie. So when it comes really close to November 2010 Im not going to expect it to come out then and get excited about it until Im actually in the cinema watching the movie, that way if they do delay it again I shouldnt hopefully be as disapointed as I am now.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:28:23
Why do they treat us fans like this. It makes me so mad. Its all about money.
I have set up a facebook group about it. You will find it here
http://www.new.face book.com/group.php?gid=28 859875107
lets boycott the opening weekend and hit warner brothers were it hurts! At the bank lol
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:30:31
haripotar - can you prise your finger off the capslock key, please?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:30:46
lupinandtonks2008 NOW THIS IS JUST CRAP THEYLL NOT DO THAT AND FROM WHERE DO YOU NOW THAT THE SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE READY AND MAYBE THIS IS CONNECTED WITH Daniels disease.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:42:55
Ohhh dear... well at the end of the day they only really make the movies to make money, NOT for the fan. So if they want to firstly go ahead and make a mockery out of the books into excuses for a movie, then disappoint the fans by doing this kind of dribble like delaying it 7 months. Well all I can say is Im downloading it now, whereas Id like to think Im a loyal fan and would pay entry price... But boycotting is a way to get through to these big shots heads. Money doesnt make the world go round!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:43:12
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:46:52
thousandsofmiles ok you are going to boycott what are your going to win + that you want feel the magic of the movie.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 05:55:43
This is probably just another excuse....
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:16:25
harripotar94 go kiss wb ass somewhere else. you bore me.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:18:27
no matter HOW MUCH you tell us you love us; the point is youre putting profit before people.
actions speak louder than words, Mr. Horn.
you dont love us, youre just a greedy old man whod rather make enough money to fund the purchase of that new merc (aka: mid-life crisis car) than look after those who are funding that dream.
you have the power to make millions happy, or to make yourself happy whilst destroying us in the process. its disgusting that you choose to watch us fall in order to make a proportionally small amount of profit in addition to the millions you will make if the movie is released in december anyway.
rethink.
www. petitionspot.com/petition s/harrypotter6
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:45:15
To those of you who are saying that the movie doesnt belong to us: Dont be a fool! The ONLY reason why these movies are so successful is because of the loyal fans of HP! This movie is not "in production" - its finished! Its already "in the can"! I do understand that because of the writers strike, the final two installments of the films will have to be postponed. But this film was already written and filming when the writers strike occurred. If WB had come out and announced the delay for the next films due to the writers strike, Im sure we would have all understood. Were forgiving that way. But the greed of WB is shining through, and they have chosen to postpone the premiere of HBP because they wanted to show a large profit for three years in a row rather than one HUGE year (this year due to Dark Knight and HBP) followed by a lackluster year. He knows the shareholders would read that as a failure, and he knows that his job would then be on the line. Its called "corporate greed". Im NOT buying into it. WB stands to make far less money from the sale of a DVD than from the sale of a theatre ticket. If I have to wait until next July, its no big deal to me to wait another 4 months afterward to purchase the DVD at Target and put less money into this mans pocket!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:48:57
Mr Horn is just an messenger and you are attacking him like he had just stopped the Harry Potter movies.Why dont you get a life and stop being a cry babies Oh we are going to boycott I WANT MAMA
this is just stupid I love Harry Poter and Im going to wait untill 17 july 2009 because Ive got a life i have other things on my head.
SO MY ADVICE TO YOUR IS GET A LIFE.LITTLE BABIES.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:55:55
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 06:57:20
okay then if you say so..... NOT!! come on WB!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 07:04:23
WHAT KIND OF fudge SILVER LINING IS THAT!!!!! We are still waiting the same ammount of time and having to wait more for a film that was only 3 months away is supposed to make us feel better? BULLSHIT!!!! GO fudge YOURSELF ALAN "HORNY" WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 07:10:29
So in other words....we(WB) dont care what you(the Fans) think.So screw you!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 07:11:02
Like Voldemort, WB is spreading discourse among us. PEOPLE! Stop all the griping and mud slinging at each other and aim it where it belongs, Warner Bros. and its executives.
This new statement shows that we are being heard. We need to continue to buzz like gnats around a sleeping dragons head. Will it change anything...prolly not, but it will make WB and other studio executives think twice before making greed based decisions.
~~Spazzy~~
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 07:36:23
"Mr Horn is just an messenger and you are attacking him like he had just stopped the Harry Potter movies.Why dont you get a life and stop being a cry babies Oh we are going to boycott I WANT MAMA this is just stupid I love Harry Poter and Im going to wait untill 17 july 2009 because Ive got a life i have other things on my head. SO MY ADVICE TO YOUR IS GET A LIFE.LITTLE BABIES"
Douche....didn t even spell Potter right.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 07:47:10
Alan Horn needs to realize that they messed up OotP . If they are going to make us wait, then the movie better be exactly like the book. If not, then I will not even see DH. Two movies messed up? I think not!!
And I will not be seeing it opening weekend!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:08:19
I dont work for WB. Just because I have a differing opinion than yours, doesnt make me an agent for WB. Either way, I never explicitly supported WBs decision. I would obviously have preferred if the movie was going to be released in November. But, I have a life outside of HP. I like other things too, and I can wait a few extra months because its just a movie and I dont need it to live. An HP movie is not necessary for life...this decision will not cause anyone to die. Sure youre pissed off, but guess what: $h!t happens. Now, instead of continuing to whine about it like a bunch of kids, be mature about it, accept the delay, send your email to WB to let them know what you think, but be polite about it, and dont act like a bunch of rabid dogs. Every time I see profanity or threats directed at WB, Alan Horn, or myself (which has happened a few times so far), I immediately disregard that persons opinion as that of an immature idiot. While most of you may not agree with my viewpoint on this matter, you can surely agree that I have handled this event and the ensuing discussion much more maturely than a majority of the people commenting here. Sincerely, 20 year old male Mattrixed, a university student, not a WB employee.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:23:05
@ MATTRIXED: Yes, youre right, by delaying HBP, WB made a business decision, they are in the money making business, and its their prerogative to do so, theres nothing immoral about that. Its capitalism and its a free market. BUT if you accept this, then you also have to accept the following: WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE UPSET AND COMPLAIN. Just think about it. If you have a bad experience on an airline, what do yo do? You file a complaint, and you dont fly with them anymore, you switch to another carrier. What do you do when you have a bad experience at a restaurant? You leave a bad tip or no tip and/or complain and you probably wont eat there anymore. If you dont receive the expected service or product you pay for from any other company, you usually file a complaint and/or stop buying the service or product from that company to let them know that you disagree with their service and/or policies (unless you like getting screwed over and you dont do anything about it, sounds like youre the type). WB provides the service of entertainment, and they made a business decision, its their right. But we dont have to like it. HP fans have made this franchise successful by paying their hard earned money to watch the movies in the theater, and by buying the DVDs and all HP-related stuff FOR YEARS. When WB announced the release date in November 2008, HP fans expected this service from WB, just like with any other HP release: that the movie be released when they said it would. And then WB pulls this stunt. Upset fans have every right to complain and threaten not to put their money into WB or boycott WB, just like you would if this was any other company/airline/restauran t whose service or policy you dont like. NO NEED TO CALL THE FANS "ENTITLED". They know they dont own the movie, duh! They just want what theyve been paying for all these years. Thats capitalism and free market also. Gee, you just made my argument for me, Mattrixed, thanks!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:23:07
Allow me to interpret Mr. Horns comments:
The decision to move Half-Blood Prince was not taken lightly, and was never intended to upset our Harry Potter fans. [Im such a greedy idiot, I just KNEW youd all be dancing in the streets about this]We know you have built this series [and our bank accounts] into what it is, and we thank you for your ongoing enthusiasm and support [and boatloads of money]. If I may offer a silver lining [besides the new Hummer Im planning to buy with my bonus next year]: there would have been a 2-year gap between Prince and the first part of Deathly Hallows, which opens in Nov 2010. So although we have to wait a little longer the wait from that film until Deathly Hallows will be less than 18 months [and I get my $bazillion bonus FOUR years in a row WOO HOO!]. I am sorry to have disappointed you now[NOT!], but if you hold on a little longer, I believe it will be worth the wait. [And the bulge in my wallet.]
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:30:15
For those people who think that WB doesnt care about the fans think about this.
I have never seen a production company respond so quickly to such an outcry as this and I think its silly some of you are acting like little children who dont get what they want.
For those of you complaining, do you run a high end production company? Do you know what goes into every decision and how it affects everyone in the company? No? I didnt think so. And no, neither do I but lets be reasonable.
Im sure that in order to keep business up they have to make a certain amount of money every year, something that they are just afraid might not happen in 2009 and thats ok because they are running a business. Mortgages have to be paid, people need to eat and above all people need to keep their jobs. Because what happens when a company doesnt make enough money? People loose jobs.
At least, Potter fans dont have to wait a decade or so like the Starwars fans had to for their series to be completed.
HBP is my favorite book and of course Im disappointed and its ok if we do express that were saddened but to call for boycotts and say that for WB to look out for their company is "greedy and wrong and evil and how dare they" is just being silly.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:41:19
yeah right!!!!!!!! im sure if the pushed HBP from nov to july to make more money then theyll push DH back too!!! dont give us that bull!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:45:53
this is all about money. thanks for being nice mr wb but, WE WANT OUR HARRY POTTER MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! *sticks out tongue and blows rasberries*
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:47:42
Wait a "bit" more?.........Its actually one year and 16 days we have to wait!!!!!!!!!!!!......... ...Thats definetly not a "bit".......I understand if its just a few weeks or something but summer 09?.....hell no!.....The WB is already losing millions from Watchmen since the rights initialy belong to them so that movi has indefinetly been delayed!..........why should the fans suffer for WBs mistakes?.......Its not our fault they will be making less money!...either way its our money to begin with so we should see it when ever we want to!.....They should atleast give us the first 15 minutes of the film online on November 21st 08!......So we can have something to look forward to for the next year and a half!.........
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:52:03
"I am sorry to have disappointed you now, but if you hold on a little longer, I believe it will be worth the wait." Sound like anyone to you guys? Reminds me of Umbridge at the start of term feast in OOTP. I can hear her darn voice ringing in my ears. Hem-Hem.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:54:31
Eritheia said: "If you have a bad experience on an airline, what do yo do? You file a complaint, and you dont fly with them anymore, you switch to another carrier. What do you do when you have a bad experience at a restaurant? You leave a bad tip or no tip and/or complain and you probably wont eat there anymore." This is different. In your examples, the consumer has already paid for the service, and then had the bad experience. In this case, none of us have paid for the HBP movie. So to modify your analogy to fit this situation: If an airline postpones a flight that you havent even bought tickets for, what do you do? You file a complaint! How DARE the airline move a flight around that you havent even bought a ticket for! : See what I mean?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:55:22
"we ... would certainly never do anything to hurt any of the films." Yeah, right. Too late, the boycott has already begun. If I read the petitionspot petition correctly, several countries of Potter fans have declared boycott. I would not want to be head of WB when the fourth quarter and year end earnings reports come out! Boycott all WB movies and products!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 08:57:20
:(. If they really wanna release HBP late, lets do it in, idk February or something.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:04:39
You know if people boycott its going to hurt the fans right? You guys out there do realize this? If the boycott is successful they could just stop caring about the last two films and then where does that leave us? Instead of boycotting we could use this delay and perhaps persuade them to look over their filming and adjust some of those things people are so keen to complain about.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:06:24
They are delaying the film and the quality would be just as shoddy as OOTP was. They have to realise that we go to see the movies no because the name David Yates is attached to it or WB is promoting it , but we go to see it because of HARRY POTTER. Its the Potter name that draws the fans out not WB or Yates and it is the fans that have made this into the number one series of all time, so they should have some consideration towards us more than towards their fat pockets.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:20:03
who cares?! do they think that harry potter fans havent already determined the length of time between each film? we already know that wb. we arent morons. we had already prepared for a long wait between hbp and dh. whats the killer is that you postpone the film almost another YEAR less than 3 MONTHS before its scheduled to come out. that is not acceptable. i believe foxnewss assumptions that the move was due to dans equus premiere in nyc being at the same time. and i dont disagree that that is a wonderful reason to postpone...that makes it kind of awkward. but to say that the reason is for money just makes us mad. just come out and say "hey, dan will be performing naked the same week the movie premiers. we dont want kids exposed to that press and publicity."
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:20:36
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:21:14
I disagree with you Mattrixed. We have already paid for the service WB provided or are supposed to. As fans of these movies and consumers we have invested millions of pounds into this franchise. A lot of which is profit for WB. Sorry if we expect as return on that investment! However, it is not simply the delay of the film that is infuriating. It is the prnciple of their decision. We have to make these huge corporations- who get extremely rich off of our custom- understand that they should not bite the hand that feeds them. it does not make good business sense. To get this message across, unfortunatly we must resort to the unsavory tactic of a boycott. AND THAT IS OUR RIGHT. 23 yr old Female MA student.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:26:42
So you boycott, then what ?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:30:14
Then they (WB) understand that thier fan base provide thier profits and that upsetting them is counterproductive to their end of year accounts.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:36:11
Ok, fair enough. But where do you think the money to make movies comes from? it comes from the profit of previous movies. So if HBP makes very little money due to this boycott, future projects and what project do you think is going to suffer those cuts? DH.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:37:13
Well put Vicki prove to them that its the fans than make Potter the success that it is
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:38:02
WHat the heck! Still, Us fans of Harry Potter shouldnt have to wait until its 3 months until the movie, you have to delay it and then we have to wait 11 more months! And thats a real devoted fan.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:39:21
No, Mattrixed. Fans have been paying into the HP franchise for years. Its not just ONE movie. If this had been the first Harry Potter movie that had been delayed, I dont think anyone would have been very upset. But, this series has been going on for years, and fans have been paying money for years. They have been WBs customers for years. And as regular consumers of WBs services and products we can choose where we put our money and where we dont put our money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:40:06
I had hoped he would say anything new, but this is just old stuff. Weve heard it all before.
Of course he thinks its OK to wait another eight months, i guess he has seen the movie already.
And about that part with we dont have to wait as long for the first DH-movie, well, we didnt expect anything less than 2 years so that would be much more OK. He cant honestly think we feel better because of that, can he?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:42:52
True, but to be quite honest a boycott would only be truly harmful to the production of the later films if every fan were to follow through and as much as it would be a kick in the teeth for WB if that did happen, its highly unlikely. As long as it made some impact, made them take notice. They have to realise that their money making motivations are flawed and that happy fans = healthy profits. Whereas Unhappy fans = reduced profits. Its not just millions they make but billions and the reason is because of the likes of you and me.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:46:59
IF they get away with moving the date easily like this. They WILL MOVE HALLOWS AS WELL. Its only a matter of time
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:47:25
WHat is the most upsetting about all this, and why so many of us are complaining, is because WB have lied to us all year. They have been advertising it to come out in november all year long. They just release a trailer with the fall release date and we have three months to go. Everyone has been getting all excited, its been just over a year since OOTP, and all of a sudden.....they push it back 8 more months! And they come up with all these excuses that are BS and ecpect us to take it lightly!! NO! WHY cant they just push it back to february or something...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:54:20
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:54:23
True, but to be quite honest a boycott would only be truly harmful to the production of the later films if every fan were to follow through and as much as it would be a kick in the teeth for WB if that did happen,
Very true, but I think they are suffering already because they dont have anything big lined up for next year due to the writers strike. I dont think its a matter of making more money but spreading that money around so they dont go through a bad year, and I just dont see anything really wrong about that.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 09:59:24
beth_28-- yes february would be great for me!! I just really dont understand why the heck theyre pushing it sooo far! Everything theyre saying is bull and they know we dont believe it.
DONT GIVE UP HARRY POTTER FANS! WERE OBVIOUSLY GETTING TO HIM IF HE KEEPS MAKING STATEMENTS!!!
if we werent getting to him, he wouldve kept his mouth shut after his first statement.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:02:49
WB you make us wait for the movie....Well make you wait for our money!....Simple as that!....We would not go the opening weekend too see HBP or well just buy a ticket to another movie and see that movie....Either way WB you are gonna lose buttloads of cash!...IM NOT WAITING 11 WHOLE MONTHS!!!!....Imagine we get to three months again before the movie will come out then something really bad will happen again like the world ending or the film being damaged?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:06:03
i thought they had Watchmen for next year? Anyway its poor financial planning if a company cannot shoulder one lean year. They probably are feeling the effect of the writers strike. But they should be more generous towards their writing talent, rather than the executives. They refused to recognise until late the importance of these men and women and its cost them. I have no sympathy for them, that was pure greed. Many areas are suffering due to the slow down of the ecomony except (according to the British media) the film companies who have been raking it in because people have seen going to the movies as a cheaper alternative to other leisure activities. They made a huge amount of money form the Dark knight (and will do off of Harry Potter) surely that will sustain them. It shoudnt be about how the figures look on a balance book from one year to the next.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:07:16
DONT BUY TICKETS TO ANY WB MOVIE. BUY TICKETS 2 ANOTHER MOVIE AND SNEAK IN 2 THE WB ONES SO THEY lose MONEY
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:08:10
NessaGiyen - you honestly do NOT see anything wrong, ANYTHING wrong!? this whole situation is wrong! they have been fasely advertising for a year! If they were already thinking about changing the release date is was a horribly wrong decision to release a trailer like 2 weeks or so ago telling us it would be released in the fall! If they need more money for 2009 why not move it to january or february! i would be okay with that. but to move it to next summer!!! i find that extremly wrong! And on a side note, they are starting to film deathly hallows in february!!! so we will be waiting for HBP to come out while they will be close to finishing DH! how does that make sense!?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:08:33
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:09:07
Harry Potter is being delayed because Horn may not get his bonus next year if he does not come up with a way to increase revenue for 2009. He does not care if Harry Potter makes more money. HPB may actually make less money in 2009 since there will be less hype. The Tales of Beedle the Bard and Harry Potter And The Sorcerers Stone: 10th Anniversary Edition are both coming out this year. Dan will be in New York doing Equus on Broadway. The only HP event announced for 2009 is the movie. The actors will be filming DH in 2009. If they are still filming in July will they break to do the film premiers? Will David Yates and his staff miss the premiers or continue preparing DH? If everyone stops work on DH to promote HBP will DH be ready for the 2010 release? How many HP fans will flip to Twilight? Don
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:09:43
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:12:46
I understand that studios need to make money. Movies have been moved in the past. But, weve been waiting for this movie already for so long and they FINALLY showed us the teaser, theyve released photos, theyve done interviews, and they set the date! Its like setting the date of your wedding and having all of the guests buy plane tickets and accomodations and then changing the date to save yourself some cash while screwing over your guests! I would have been much more understanding about the move if they hadnt already comitted to the movie being in November. Although I am extremely upset by the decision, Id feel bad punishing all those involved with making the movie who had no control over the release date. And, personally, even if they dont get every detail correct (and even if the changes drive me crazy) I think we all love seeing the details and relationships of the books come to life in movie form and even if it isnt exact, I think theyve done a really good job of faithfully recreating the world that JKR created. I will always prefer reading the books to watching the movies, but that doesnt mean I dont want to see the movies! My last thought is shut up Alan Horn. Dont pretend you really care about the fans. You care about our wallets. And thats your job, but dont lie to us.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:13:01
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:16:04
oh yeah right!! what a load of bs!! i appreciate the gesture but i still hate WB and the decision still sucks!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:16:54
Do not let Horn make you believe this had anything to do with WB making more money on HBP. It is all about him and his bonus!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:23:35
beth_28 - Yes, I recognize that putting out the trailer right before the change was incredibly stupid of them because the hype was being built. Its the main reason I got really upset about it. But Im not about to go and join a boycott or write an angry letter when I can see the reason behind their decision. Its not fair but you can imagine it could be a lot worst. I got into the fandom and into the movies and into the books to enjoy it not to get angry and throw a tantrum over something I know so little about. So yeah I have to wait a while but I still plan on enjoying it and those who are boycotting it on opening weekend or "forever" are just going to deny themselves something they like.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:31:34
Putting the trailer out right before the change was not as stupid as releasing the world wide release dates not a week before the change.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:32:32
I really dont care, I really hate the delay. I had plans for the November release, but now it wont work out. Whatever they say, I still hate the delay. I honestly think it is unfair to delay it like this. Now its about a year until we see it, instead of a couple months.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:36:21
i see the reason for thier decision. But they are reaping what they have sown. If they valued thier writers more financilly and rewarded their creative contibution they would not be facing next years drought! I really do not see why the fans muct suffer for thier ineptitude or mismanagement. I assist in the running of my family business and i understand thier motivation however, in the long run customer satisfaction is paramount without them there is no business.
Also it seems abundently clear that this decsion was being made when the Dark Knight was being released and that they held it back for fear of damage it might do to the movies takings. Therefore they do fear a fan backlash and a boycott. They are probably hoping that with no significant relases in the immediate future that this anger will have died down . A shrewed move but all the more disgraceful. I mean 60% of thier audience are probably children and manipulating them is appalling
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:40:08
well, what can I say, I am extremely disapointed, and have been since that half a century we had to wait for the teaser... On the other hand, Im still watching the movie, three or four times, probably and theres nothing that could keep me from doing that... However, there is one simple solution I can give WB for my anger, which is probably going to be ignored-Get me John Williams back and there will be no hard feelings... after all, theres a lot of time to make the proper changes... By the way, that silver linning is probably the stupidest, most dumbass argument Ive ever heard in my life... I found it HILARIOUS. ITS SO darn IDIOTIC!!!! And "Boicot"? HAHAHAHAHAHA... yeah, right... youll be on your sleeping bags outside the theaters two days before the movie premiere... Even YOU cant believe that.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:40:12
NessaGiyen - if you were a true fan of Harry Potter, like you claim to be, you would not stand by and not do anything about it. Who said i was boycotting or never going to see the movie. What im saying is that for people (who like you) are saying its not a big deal and calm down, are obviously not true fans. If you were you would not stand by and let this happen. Even if it gets no where, sending letters and emails is worth trying in case it does work out. I am not freaking out and sending threatening letters to them, but im angry and outraged, so yeah im going to try everything to get them to change their minds. But its not just waiting a "while", its them saying one thing and changing it right from under us, and forcing us to wait a year. What ever so called business reasons they have for this, they did not think it through all the way and i think its good we are all standing together and trying to change it to at least jan or feb.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:44:18
The only thing Dark Knight had to do with the decision was this is that it assured Horn is bonus for this year. WB did not need to bring in any more for him to get his pay out for 2008 but with little to look forward to for 2009 he needed something to increase revenues. Since 60% of audience are probably children they can be fickle and HBP may make less in 2009 than 2008.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:45:43
Does the american financail year start in April as it does here (GB)?, because if it does Jan or Feb will be no good either
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:47:26
So anyone else think that they should have made this decision six months ago instead of waiting till we were under three months to the release date to tell us this? And not to mention that they tease us with a trailer when the facts probably are that they were considering moving the date when the trailer was released. So basically their main reason for moving the date was so they could make a bigger profit on the film. Doesnt that almost make you think theyll move the release date for DH Part 1 back as well? Because that has a scheduled release date for the same weekend in November as this one did. You know Mr Horn, I dont think wed be as pissed off as we are now if you gave us some better reasons than the ones youve given already. Id really rather you say, "The company is hurting and we could really use more profit off this movie to keep WB going strong" than pretending like you care about the fans of this franchise. Dont lie to us and dont pretend like it isnt about the money. Yeah I understand that WB is a company and the goal of a company is to make a profit, but dont give us a load of crap. Tell us how it is and be a man. Dont pretend like you care more about the fans than you do about profit because its obvious you dont. Youre making us wait two years between OotP and HBP instead of two years between HBP and DH. Wouldnt it make more sense to release HBP now and take more time to focus on DH to make it the best HP film of them all? DH is really where WB is going to make the last bit of a fortune off this franchise so release HBP in November and make us happy if you really care about us more than money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:48:08
ALAN HORN AND WB CAN SUCK MY PHOENIX TAIL FEATHERS OFF! HES AN IDIOT! EVERYONE WAITED FUKKIN YEARS FOR BATMAN AND THE DARK KNIGHT... AND STILL IT GOT THE MOST MONEY EVER!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:53:43
Vicki209 for most American companies the financail year starts in Jan but some companies have a financail start that is the month they started business. Do not know when WBs is.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:56:56
I am soooo not comforted. I dont think anybody really was that upset about the DH break. Historically, theres always been a big break between HP releases, and that gave us time to unwind, read the books again, etc, etc. What DOES psst me off is that the folks at WB are a bunch of miserly money gluttons who arent satisfied with a million dollar profit and doing what is easy instead of what is right. if WB could just be honest with the public and say, look, it costs a lot to make these films, and wed like to retire ASAP here, and wed also like to buy some land by the seaside, and we cant unless you guys show up in droves for a summer release. But yeah, another thing that makes me mad is that WB was kind of right about big movie releases in the fall, in that a lot of movies were damaged by the writers strike and HBP and Twilight were like the only wildly popular, highly anticipated releases for the season. People would have no choice but to go see HBP. now Twilight (ugh) is going to make alll that nice money and HBP is pushed back to the summer, when it will compete with a zillion other films, and likely the only people wholl come see it willl be the hard-core group of MN using Harry Potter fans.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:57:12
Pure BS. Honestly I wish diarrea on you!! Lol z100.. if anyone gets it... its a radio station.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 10:58:27
THIS BETTER BE ONE darn GOOD MOVIE TO WAIT FOR! I really hope they stick to the books for once, I thought ootp was an insult to JKs book. the potter books are one of a kind, nothing else will probably ever be so popular. So theyve got ONE chance to make these films, once its over it over and theres no going back and changing them, or making them more accurate. after the DH films are released there will be no more harry potter to look forward to, so it would be nice to look back on the films and think that they did JKs books justice, and yes i was very angry when i heard about the HBP delay, and seeing as theyre in no mood to change it back, it better be one good movie to wait 8 extra months for.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:05:50
id ust like to point out that there going to move the DH1 back cause he basiclly said it was comeing out in november so dont get to excited when u find out about the relese date for DH1..cause there proly gonna kick us in the ass angin F**K Warner Bros.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:07:11
Again I say WB could and I believe will make less money on HBP in 2009. The Nov 21 date was for Americans the weekend before Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving weekend is one of the biggest movie weekends of the year in the US. The reason the July release of OOTP was huge was because of the hype of the DH book release in the same month. Where is the hype next July? So all of you see the reason please remember one word, bonus. Horn is not taking any chances with his pocket book. He is not concerned the about pocket book of WB.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:09:11
Posted by beth_28 12 minutes ago
Beth_28, Did I say YOU were boycotting? No I didnt. All I ever set out to do in posting on this thread is to offer a balanced perspective for the mob that seems to be forming around here. Its funny you say Im not a fan since I actually just said I was going to see the movie no matter what. Im not going to let a few more months and that fact that Im a bit upset deprive me of a good time. To be perfectly honest, I was on this site everyday before the trailer came out just to see what was going to happen. So excuse me if Im not ending my sentences with multiple exclamation marks on how I hate "WB and HOW DARE THEY AND GRRR AND I HATE THESE PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!!!!" Like you seem to think a real Potter fan should act.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:09:15
If we want to get our movie sooner we must not give up.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:10:10
bethinoz- If WBs financial year doesnt begin in January, then it begins in April due to the companys founding on 4 April 1923. So they probably moved it to July because they figure "Our financial year starts in April so then we should just release HBP in July so we get more profit". Even if it is in January, then I dont think theyd release it in January or February because not many people are on holiday at that time in the year. Which blows.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:28:07
what actual reason do they give for delaying the movie?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:43:10
Madmoggie, I believe if you go back a bit theres an article with their actual statement. But I think you figured that out already if youve been surfing around. ^_^
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:43:57
And what has JK said about it?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:45:21
I think its crap. This is some stupid way of them thinking that were going to feel better about it. Im so dissapointed, i just finished reading HBP just to get prepared for the movie, and its utter nonsense. Its only for the money, i knew that universal should have gotten the rights to HP, WB is too busy making money, they could give a darn about the fans.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:49:16
Everyone needs to calm down a bit and remember that its only a film. Its true that WBs interests are only in our money; as much as I dont want that to be true - Im afraid it is. They have made mistakes with the films and expessed little remorse over it and yet you, the fans, complain about it - saying the films are rubbish, but yet go mad when the dates been shifted. Sending hate mail and saying abusive things over the internet isnt going to sway their decision to move HBP back to November, so Im afraid you may as well just sit back and wait eleven monts until its released. Im annoyed, too, but what the hell.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:49:35
Yes, good point madmoggie! Where is JKR response to this nonsense!? Has she made a statement this ordeal yet?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:51:07
"Madmoggie, I believe if you go back a bit theres an article with their actual statement. But I think you figured that out already if youve been surfing around."
yeh ive seen what people ive put and ive read the statement but it doesnt give a clear reason for why there doing it
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:56:48
The clearest reason I can imagine is that they just dont have a summer blockbuster for 2009 and with the writers strike, ( this feels like dejavu) They werent able to come up with another one. Hence, the move. Its a financial reason and yeah its not "fair" but there you have it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:57:19
Kiss my ass horn. Yeah there isnt going to be a two year gap between HBP and DH but now theres going to be a two year gap between OOTP and HBP. ****ing greedy basturd.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:58:06
OKAYY seriously! all you people who are here defending WB and telling all of us to calm down should get offf this site. We are here on this Harry Potter based website to defend the movies and books, and all here who are defending WB saying its no big deal and saying we are over reacting please stop! We are trying to vent our feeling about this outrage and if you want to tell us to stop no one is going to listen because we are here for Harry and we will do everything to make sure we get a better release date. Whether its back in november or anytime before february.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 11:59:06
ahahahah nicee way of putting it mrsrad16! Honestly this is what i think of this *does a dance and sings in a high voice* this issss bsss this isss bbbbbsssss
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:06:25
i suppose at the end of the day business is buisness and thats how all companies work. say if it were the dark night and harry potter switched they would move the dark night back.
i know its highly irritating but i suppose we gotta put up with it.
although i would like to hear JKs opinion. we havent had any comment so far from her
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:08:11
beth_28, Real mature, just because some of us, not even close to the majority, arent agreeing with everything you just want us to leave?
I thought this was a place where you could discuss? No my mistake I suppose. You seem to prefer a long list of comments that repeat the same thing over and over.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:11:22
This is just a bunch of bull!! They are sooo fake!! The writers strike?! What does that have anything to do with the movie now?!?! Its already done and edited and its the companys fault that the writers went on strike! Theyre the ones that have billions of dollars and cant pay the writers enough or give them health insurance or whatever the heck theyre complaining about, yet they are waiting until next summer so they can make more money?! News flash for them: no ones going to want to see it, especially now, with them continually lying to us, the people that gave them those billions of dollars to begin with! And, quite frankly, I think it will be easy to boycott the movie seeing as how its probably going to be just as bad, if not worse, than OotP, which was waaay too far off from the book to even be CALLED Harry Potter! They dont want to hurt the movies or fans, my foot! They are such stupid, greedy idiots!! I, for one, am not going to see the movie unless they make a REAL apology and possibly move it back to at least March or April!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:16:12
Its nice that Horn is at least acknowledging our outrage, but seriously, nothing he says is going to make me feel any better.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:17:27
the problem with the whole thing is that this wait isnt going to make the any better. they are holding the movie just to make up for the the money they lost during and because of the writers strike. they arent going to add anything to the movie. and I get the impression that they are trying to convince us that the movie is gonna be better when it isnt gonna be any different. though maybe this time they wont have to cheep it up on the special fx
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:19:34
Has anyone questioned why Horn came out with a statement today. Things were calming down. Why stir the pot? Is this whole thing a publicity stun?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:22:27
I appreciate that he acgnolioged the fans build this and the silver lining is well silver but he doesnt really justify their reason for moving it and thats cause its stupid and driven by greed: people (me as well) went to see Dark knight for a diferent reason than HBP and even if theyre right about the date bringing in more money that shouldnt matter, but sadly it does so no still not seeing it (at least not on opening night) and I encourage all of you to at least wait till the next day (after all it whats a few more hours compared to the 9 months delay) and if you can download it than do that and dont go see it in theaters. They dont care about our complaints so lets hit them where it hurts - their pocket.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:25:54
I wrote to JKR a few days ago because I was so upset and it would feel better if she at least told us if she thinks they do the right thing or not. Theres probably nothing she can do but at least support/try to calm us. I think thats not too much to ask for.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:28:52
I dont think WB or Mr. Horn for that matter understands the concept of STFU! Maybe we should send in some duct tape while were sending them howlers. Idiots.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:32:18
Thats a load of bollocks right there! How long ago was this statement made? Where are those snipers I ordered for the event? I have some calls to make!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:33:06
NessaGiyen- lmao, youre comment made me laugh because it was such rubbish. They reacted as quickly as they did because they are getting scared about their assumed profit in July and they know how large the HP fan base is and how angry more than half of them are. They only care about the fans if their bank accounts are in danger. And let me repeat what Ive said 534807 times. Yes, its a capitalistic move... but what theyre forgetting is that capitalism only works with buyers. The whole point of it is you want to please the customers because with no happy customers, you dont make money. Now.. I really dont think angering thousands and thousands of HP fans is a smart capitalistic move. Its not getting into their heads that thousands and thousands of people = millions and millions of dollars. These people arent going to see it multiple times. They would have seen it multiple times if it were in November or December. So... they basically just flushed the millions they were hoping to make in July away, when they would have made it in the fall or winter. HOW DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? And for all you people who say, "Its just a movie." You wouldnt be saying "its just a movie" if they canceled the film altogether, you wouldnt have been saying "its just a movie" if you bought plane tickets to England for the premier, you wouldnt be saying "its just a movie" if you werent fortunate enough to have a good year and this was the one thing to maybe lighten it up. The fact that theyre using Harry Potter and taking advantage of the Harry Potter fans really angers me. Oh and if its "just a movie" to you, then you dont need to see it multiple times in theatres. You wont need to get super excited weeks before the release. If this is "just a movie" to you, then get off this site because you arent a passionate HP fan. People like me, see it as more than a movie. And you know, to be honest, if they were to have post-poned it because of editing reasons? I WOULDNT B...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:36:34
I was upset by the delay because while I enjoy films, there are so few that I look forward to and anticipate. Half-Blood Prince was one of them. I dont have an issue with WB making money - we live in a capitalist society with great freedoms and I prefer that to a Socialist society or dictatorship for that matter, even if they gave me my Harry Potter movies on time... Having said that, I believe Horns choice to delay the release will negatively impact WBs bottomline in the bigger picture. The audience is the customer. Customers are what drive the bottomlines sales. When one manipulates them for a short-term financial gain, you end up alienating the very people that got you where you are in the first place - and longterm, the business will suffer. Yes, I will go see Half-Blood Prince and the remaining HP films, but now its with resentment. And as soon as I get what I want as a customer, I am no longer inclined to stay loyal to WB. I already boycotted Clone Wars. Thats one person, one ticket, circa $10. Lets say 10 million fans avoided one WB film per year for the next 20 years. Thats $2 Billion. What do you think of that WB?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:37:18
BE MAD IN THE SLIGHTEST! But its the reason of why they did it. And its not even a SMART decision! Its stupid! I dont need to be working at a company to know how stupid it is! -- got cut off...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:38:19
I was looking forward to the half-blooded prince. But now I have to wait. I am not happy. Now WB is holding off til next July, they P@@@@@ of a lot of fans. I bet the opening week will not be all that they are hoping for. Horn you will be fired for your action. Please boycott the movie at least during opening week or wait til it a the cheap theaters. Because if we dont show them who is boss they will do it again and we will be waiting two years each for the last two movies.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 12:43:27
I agree with the posts bad mouthing Warner Bros and in particular, Mr. Horn. This is nothing but a money-whore scheme. Horn is a liar; he cares nothing for the fans. I also agree with boycotting this movie the first week. The fans have to send a clear message that this type of behavior is unacceptable.
A petition needs to be made so fans can sign it and send it to Warner Bros. The petition should state something like,
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:14:17
CHECK THIS OUT: http://smg.photobucket.co m/albums/v727/Plugcollect or/?action=view¤t=A lanHorn.jpg (remove the spaces). Its the real face of Alan "HORN". Use it as you like! Besides, Im boycotting WB too. Every single person counts, let them lose 20 or 30% or more of their gains and then they will regret their arrogance bitterly.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:19:20
Mr Horn,
If you arent going to tell us that you are putting HBP back in its November date, then we really dont want to hear from you.
Nothing else you have to say is of any importance to us.
I still cant believe that Jo has said NOTHING about this.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:29:53
WB owns the HBP movie Not the fans. Yes WB is a company like all that are in business to make as many $$$$ as it can. So deal with it as their decision and wait till July 2009. My own opinion is that HBP is awful as it is so WB is going to use the time to rewrite, reshoot & reedit HBP. Then next July they will release a much better HBP movie, with some added scenes to as WB said to pacify the fans! A question I always ask is why do they change things from the books so much? Again my view is that the books being as great as they are why change things for the movies! I hope that HBP will be much better than OOTP which I thought was awful. The HP books are the true joy to me NOT the movies. As we all reread them we see the journey of our beloved Harry Potter in our own minds that way it is perfect to all of us as it was written.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:38:37
The fact that our opinions have been responded to means theyre worried. I say keep it up! And the WB can stuck the opening weekend where the sun doesnt shine - if Ive had to wait nearly a year a few more weeks wont hurt.
And I wouldnt have been that bothered waiting until next summer...IF THEY HADNT ALREADY ANNOUNCED THE FREAKING DATE!
Keep sending them your opinions
http://potterso rder.blogspot.com/
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:50:07
I have been saying since the beginning that the people making the Harry Potter movies aught to take a cue from Peter Jackson and make a shorter movie for the passive fans and then put all the stuff they deemed unimportant but comes up in the end back in for the true fans. As I sat reading DH with my cousin when it came out, we kept wondering how they were going to deal with all of that stuff that becomes important, but that they cut out. If the HBP movie is anything like OOTP, it isnt going to be worth the price of a ticket. I for one, for the first time, will not be in line opening weekend. I am even considering not seeing any more of WBs movies.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:52:14
SIGN THE HBP PETITION ON PETITIONSPOT.COM THERE IS ALMOST 50000 SIGNITURES.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:54:51
For all of you say they understand because WB is a company and they need to make money please read. Harry Potter is being delayed because Horn may not get his bonus next year if he does not come up with a way to increase revenue for 2009. He does not care if Harry Potter makes more money. HPB may actually make less money in 2009 since there will be less hype. The Tales of Beedle the Bard and Harry Potter And The Sorcerer
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 13:58:12
WB thinks that they will make money with HBP like they did with Dark Knight. Okay we all know that. However, what they fail to realize is that many people went to see Dark Knight because Heath Ledger died so tragically. So HBP will not be as big of a movie unless something similar happens. So basically they pissed us all off for nothing.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:00:45
For all of you say they understand because WB is a company and they need to make money please read. Harry Potter is being delayed because Horn may not get his bonus next year if he does not come up with a way to increase revenue for 2009. He does not care if Harry Potter makes more money. HPB may actually make less money in 2009 since there will be less hype. The Tales of Beedle the Bard and Harry Potter And The Sorcerers Stone: 10th Anniversary Edition are both coming out this year. Dan will be in New York doing Equus on Broadway. The only HP event announced for 2009 is the movie. Thanksgiving weekend (Nov. 27, 2008) is one of the largest movie weekends in the US. The reason OOTP did so well in July was because the book was coming out in the same month. I know alot of people who went to the movie and stood in line for the book. The actors will be filming DH in 2009. If they are still filming in July will they break to do the film premiers? Will David Yates and his staff miss the premiers or continue preparing DH? If everyone stops work on DH to promote HBP will DH be ready for the 2010 release? How many HP fans will flip to Twilight? Do not let Horn make you believe this had anything to do with WB making more money on HBP. It is all about him and his bonus!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:10:16
I dont think we can blame Horn solely for this decision. He may have put forward the proposal but it would have to have been approved by a board of people at WB. He undoubtably will get a bonus, executives of huge companies always do when they make a truck load of money. Its the whole WB board and major shareholders that are to blame. We should be mad at all of them. Although i agree that he must have consulted the dummies guide to public relations before releasing these pitiful excuses.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:12:06
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:16:18
have you erer heard the term yes men?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:22:34
This is dumb! Hes saying how the fact that the wait between 6 and 7 is shorter however he seemed to forget that making the wait between 6 and 7 shorter makes the wait between 5 and 6 a lot longer. So their just trying to make excuses but very few people are gonna feel better because of the lies they are tring to feed us. In my opinion he would have been better off saying nothin.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:24:29
I dont know what more to say but I do agree with schenkl.
And also I dont know why everyone is getting this upset... its a movie. Youll still live. I am upset about it but Ill get over it.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:24:34
Yep, but he doesnt own the company and therefore if those that do dont have the backbone to make thier own decisions they are as much to blame. I still despise the man. And i think this will have damaged his career. But this would have had to be a joint decision that came from the top. However,they must have made a lot of enemies in the publishing world though as many magazines etc. have been running with the november release date, cast interviews and suff. It will have caused embarassment to those publications and bad feeling for WB so it will have hurt the company.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:26:03
Im sorry to inform you that Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince has been canceled due to an excessive amount of idiotic fans issuing death threats towards me and my loving family. We have decided to release a different film on the July 19th, 2009 weekend instead of Harry Potter. We hope you will be excited in looking forward to what we at Warner Brothers predict will be the biggest box office movie of next summer. Rob Schneider will be starring in The Stapler, rated PG-13. Have a great upcoming Labor Day Weekend everyone! Yours sincerely, Alan Horn, President of Warner Brothers.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:26:12
if you guys are going to boycott, then you shouldnt be going to see the film at ALL. you cant have your cake and eat it too, you either have to give them your money to see the movie or boycott it and not see it at all. if everyone went to see it just the one time, dont you think they would still make more than enough money? If none of us go to see it then it will be more of a substantial loss.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:29:36
I dont fully understand why people would want to boycott the movie and avoid something that they love. Yeah Im extremely pissed off about it but Im not going to miss out on a HP movie just because its pushed back. Even if they pushed it back four years Id still go see just because I love HP. I might be ready to rip the throats out of the executives at WB but Ill still see it. What exactly is everyones plan of boycotting? Not seeing the movie at all and standing in front of theaters protesting the wait? Or is it buying tickets for a non-WB movie and sneaking into HP anyway? Although you may not think that the latter is bad, we may be hurting the actors, producers, musicians, and the director who put so much time into filming this movie. We need something else to get to WB because we are pissed at the company not the people who made the movie right?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:35:46
When executives of large companies started getting bonuses they started to think of what was best for them and not what was best for the company. I do not know if I blame them for that attitude but I do wish we could live in Harry Potters world where good wins and Harry tries to save them all, even giving Voldemont that once last chance to save himself. Horn is not entirely to blame but as the top guy he has to take most of the blame. Will he? No. Does he care about what is best for WB? I doubt it. Are there others helping him make the decisions? Of course. Is the final decision his? Yes. The board is not going to meet to decide on the release date of a movie.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:37:51
Why "Mr Horn" thankyou for your further comment. We fans would never do anything to upset you. We love the studio! But may i offer you a silver lining, you can go into hiding and have some time off work.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:41:00
Heres a silver lining for you: kiss my fat rich Jewish executive @$$.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:44:13
How eloquent! Did you have a team of under paid writers compsoe that for you?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:45:06
For some reson, all Im reading is blah blah blah blah. I know there are words there, but they seem to mean nothing. Hmmm.... I wonder why?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:50:39
When executives of large companies started getting bonuses they started to think of what was best for them and not what was best for the company. I do not know if I blame them for that attitude but I do wish we could live in Harry Potters world where good wins and Harry tries to save them all, even giving Voldemont that once last chance to save himself. Horn is not entirely to blame but as the top guy he has to take most of the blame. Will he? No. Does he care about what is best for WB? I doubt it. Are there others helping him make the decisions? Of course. Is the final decision his? Yes. The board is not going to meet to decide on the release date of a movie.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 14:59:08
I just want to know one thing, WTF IS WRONG WITH ALL THE PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS OLD MAN!?!? and saying lame excuses about dont boycutt the movie buuuhuuu, I can boycutt the freakin movie on the oppenning weekend if I want to, ARE YOU FREAKING MENTAL!! this guy lie to us and he knew about the realese change date and he kept ito himself until the LAST MINUTE, thats why Im mad, and all of you saying that the only thing this is gonna do is destroy the production for DH, please dont be an idiots, this movies makes them richer thats why they keep doing them, so stop defending this lost cause and let me enjoy my anger towards this man for changing the date, and I -STILL - WILL- BUY- THE PIRATE-VERSION-OF-THE-MOV IE, I STILL SEE THE MOVIE, BUT I WONT TAKE MY WHOLE FAMILY TO SEE IT IN THEATRES, ILL JUST BUY THE PIRATE VERSION AND WE ALL SEE IT TOGETHER, WITHOUT GIVING OUR MONEY TO THIS GREEDY FILM INDUSTRY.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:02:02
They would and they do. HP is the biggest grossing franchise of all time, it makes them billions. They have a vested interest (money, again) in the amount these films make, therefore any decision that affects their revenue would involve the board. These films go into the record books with the WB name asscoiated with them. All good for WB posterity and profits. It all boils down to money again unfortunately. I agree that when they start receiving bonuses there priorities change for the worse. And yes its all about the almight buck. I wish the world was more like HPs , thats probably one of the thousands of reasons we all love the books so much. And thats why we have to make our voice heard. When JKs characters disagree with the hands they are dealt they fight aginst them. We should take our example from HP and Co
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:02:15
luvrup- Sorry if I offended you at all. I agree that no one should defend Alan Horn or WB at all for their decisions. Im just wondering exactly how the boycott will be performed?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:08:37
Its silly that the wait for DH is shorter. We EXPECTED we would have to wait 2 years for DH, and a year and a half for HBP (after OotP that is). Thats why were pissed of, not because of the simple waiting. Were used to wait, only not for another date than the one weve all been waiting for. Hes so stupid.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:10:26
This is still not a good reason, I mean they are trying to say that "Look at the bright sight; you wont be waiting for Deathly Hallows too long" - god darn! We will be waiting a hell of a year too! Yeah, we got HP to where it stands now, youre just the guys who make it a motion picture for cinema and try to earn money from us. I hope you Alan Horn and David Heyman will be very dissapointed if you get quarter of the money that you plan to earn by now. If they were to release HBP in November 2008 and began working for DH, there wouldnt be any delays. They dont even think about the other brighter sight that if they could begin for DH earlier, like 4-5 months than theyve scheduled, they would have released it 8-9 months after HBP considering it for July 2009. I still hate Alan Dale, David Heyman and WB!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:11:15
i agree with you - luvrup. Im not defending Horn, im just saying we should be mad at all of them as well as him. I think we should boycott and remind them who pays thier wages. Ruining opening weekend would make a statement, as thats what they measure the success of a film by.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:18:10
This also proves that nobody at WB cares about our emails and petitions. How can they be such impassive? And if Alan Dale keeps giving such kind of ridiculous speeches, next time I will punch this jackass by face! Hes making me angrier day by day by making stupid speeches. He still explains how we are important for them, and their only f**king reason is that; THEY WANT MORE PEOPLE! So lets give them LESS PEOPLE at the release of HBP on July 2009!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:21:20
First of all, I think that Warner Bros already is making enough money, seeing as how they are getting an extra movie out of the franchise already....and there are SEVERAL reasons that Batman did well this last summer-one of them being that one of the actors DIED...Now, as for me, I LOVE Harry Potter like no other, but Im seriously thinking about just boycotting the opening weekend. Warner Bros. does not appreciate their fans. Just their money. Secondly, they use the excuse that the main base of fans will still be in school. ACTUALLY, if they are fans from the beginning of the books, they shouldnt still be in school...maybe college...and if they are talking about elementary kids, well, the movie is prob rated PG13...Im just very upset. Maybe none of this sounds rational, but this is how I feel. Why not do something for the fans for once? I think another large reason they are doing this is so that it will still be fresh when the park opens...these guys arent dumb. I just think they are.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:42:54
You know, the WB executives are reading these comments and thinking, "Good, now theyve begun attacking each other and they will leave me alone. It wont be long until this whole thing is over...heheheh."
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:50:14
I agree with all of you, we can wait 11 months and a week, and I agree with - beckyw- I think it is really sad the film industry became interested only in money and they keep forgetting the movies about entretaining the fans and make them have a good time watching movies with their families, they seem to forget about that, is really sad how the only thing they can think about is money, I think the dark knight was such a money maker movie, first because of the dead of such an amazing actor as Heath Ledger and then for all the oscar buzz about his performance, and now they seem to be doing the same with HP, after the tragic dead of Robert Knox, WB is really mean, that is why I hate them.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:53:41
What really gets me is how he said "there would have been a two-year gap between
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:58:26
stupid oh yeah they care about us no they want more money and he said its not such a long wait between 6 and 7 well that was 2 years now we have to wait 2 years between 5 and 6 great job WB NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 15:59:06
What a load of bull!! WB dont care bout the fans. just the money.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 16:02:28
Grr my whole rant didnt get through.
What really gets me is how he said "there would have been a two-year gap between
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 16:08:47
For some reason my comment wont go through. Im still mad though Wb Grrr
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 16:16:10
But now its a two-year gap between OotP and HBP.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-08-20 16:17:54
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