Vicki209 for most American companies the financail year starts in Jan but some companies have a financail start that is the month they started business. Do not know when WBs is.

I am soooo not comforted. I don't think anybody really was that upset about the DH break. Historically, there's always been a big break between HP releases, and that gave us time to unwind, read the books again, etc, etc. What DOES psst me off is that the folks at WB are a bunch of miserly money gluttons who aren't satisfied with a million dollar profit and doing what is easy instead of what is right. if WB could just be honest with the public and say, look, it costs a lot to make these films, and we'd like to retire ASAP here, and we'd also like to buy some land by the seaside, and we can't unless you guys show up in droves for a summer release. But yeah, another thing that makes me mad is that WB was kind of right about big movie releases in the fall, in that a lot of movies were damaged by the writer's strike and HBP and Twilight were like the only wildly popular, highly anticipated releases for the season. People would have no choice but to go see HBP. now Twilight (ugh) is going to make alll that nice money and HBP is pushed back to the summer, when it will compete with a zillion other films, and likely the only people who'll come see it willl be the hard-core group of MN using Harry Potter fans.

Pure BS. Honestly I wish diarrea on you!! Lol z100.. if anyone gets it... its a radio station.

THIS BETTER BE ONE darn GOOD MOVIE TO WAIT FOR! I really hope they stick to the books for once, I thought ootp was an insult to JK's book. the potter books are one of a kind, nothing else will probably ever be so popular. So they've got ONE chance to make these films, once it's over it over and there's no going back and changing them, or making them more accurate. after the DH films are released there will be no more harry potter to look forward to, so it would be nice to look back on the films and think that they did JK's books justice, and yes i was very angry when i heard about the HBP delay, and seeing as they're in no mood to change it back, it better be one good movie to wait 8 extra months for.

i'd ust like to point out that there going to move the DH1 back cause he basiclly said it was comeing out in november so don't get to excited when u find out about the relese date for DH1..cause there proly gonna kick us in the ass angin F**K Warner Bros.

Again I say WB could and I believe will make less money on HBP in 2009. The Nov 21 date was for Americans the weekend before Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving weekend is one of the biggest movie weekends of the year in the US. The reason the July release of OOTP was huge was because of the hype of the DH book release in the same month. Where is the hype next July? So all of you see the reason please remember one word, bonus. Horn is not taking any chances with his pocket book. He is not concerned the about pocket book of WB.

Posted by beth_28 12 minutes ago Beth_28, Did I say YOU were boycotting? No I didn't. All I ever set out to do in posting on this thread is to offer a balanced perspective for the mob that seems to be forming around here. Its funny you say I'm not a fan since I actually just said I was going to see the movie no matter what. I'm not going to let a few more months and that fact that I'm a bit upset deprive me of a good time. To be perfectly honest, I was on this site everyday before the trailer came out just to see what was going to happen. So excuse me if I'm not ending my sentences with multiple exclamation marks on how I hate "WB and HOW DARE THEY AND GRRR AND I HATE THESE PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!!!!" Like you seem to think a real Potter fan should act.

If we want to get our movie sooner we must not give up.

bethinoz- If WB's financial year doesn't begin in January, then it begins in April due to the company's founding on 4 April 1923. So they probably moved it to July because they figure "Our financial year starts in April so then we should just release HBP in July so we get more profit". Even if it is in January, then I don't think they'd release it in January or February because not many people are on holiday at that time in the year. Which blows.

what actual reason do they give for delaying the movie?

Madmoggie, I believe if you go back a bit theres an article with their actual statement. But I think you figured that out already if you've been surfing around. ^_^

And what has JK said about it?

I think its crap. This is some stupid way of them thinking that we're going to feel better about it. I'm so dissapointed, i just finished reading HBP just to get prepared for the movie, and its utter nonsense. Its only for the money, i knew that universal should have gotten the rights to HP, WB is too busy making money, they could give a darn about the fans.

Everyone needs to calm down a bit and remember that it's only a film. It's true that WB's interests are only in our money; as much as I don't want that to be true - I'm afraid it is. They have made mistakes with the films and expessed little remorse over it and yet you, the fans, complain about it - saying the films are rubbish, but yet go mad when the date's been shifted. Sending hate mail and saying abusive things over the internet isn't going to sway their decision to move HBP back to November, so I'm afraid you may as well just sit back and wait eleven monts until it's released. I'm annoyed, too, but what the hell.

Yes, good point madmoggie! Where is JKR response to this nonsense!? Has she made a statement this ordeal yet?

"Madmoggie, I believe if you go back a bit theres an article with their actual statement. But I think you figured that out already if you've been surfing around." yeh i've seen what people i've put and i've read the statement but it doesn't give a clear reason for why there doing it

The clearest reason I can imagine is that they just don't have a summer blockbuster for 2009 and with the writers strike, ( this feels like dejavu) They weren't able to come up with another one. Hence, the move. Its a financial reason and yeah its not "fair" but there you have it.

Kiss my ass horn. Yeah there isn't going to be a two year gap between HBP and DH but now theres going to be a two year gap between OOTP and HBP. ****ing greedy basturd.

OKAYY seriously! all you people who are here defending WB and telling all of us to calm down should get offf this site. We are here on this Harry Potter based website to defend the movies and books, and all here who are defending WB saying its no big deal and saying we are over reacting please stop! We are trying to vent our feeling about this outrage and if you want to tell us to stop no one is going to listen because we are here for Harry and we will do everything to make sure we get a better release date. Whether its back in november or anytime before february.

ahahahah nicee way of putting it mrsrad16! Honestly this is what i think of this *does a dance and sings in a high voice* this issss bsss this isss bbbbbsssss

i suppose at the end of the day business is buisness and thats how all companies work. say if it were the dark night and harry potter switched they would move the dark night back. i know it's highly irritating but i suppose we gotta put up with it. although i would like to hear JK's opinion. we haven't had any comment so far from her

beth_28, Real mature, just because some of us, not even close to the majority, aren't agreeing with everything you just want us to leave? I thought this was a place where you could discuss? No my mistake I suppose. You seem to prefer a long list of comments that repeat the same thing over and over.

This is just a bunch of bull!! They are sooo fake!! The writer's strike?! What does that have anything to do with the movie now?!?! It's already done and edited and it's the company's fault that the writers went on strike! They're the ones that have billions of dollars and can't pay the writers enough or give them health insurance or whatever the heck they're complaining about, yet they are waiting until next summer so they can make more money?! News flash for them: no one's going to want to see it, especially now, with them continually lying to us, the people that gave them those billions of dollars to begin with! And, quite frankly, I think it will be easy to boycott the movie seeing as how it's probably going to be just as bad, if not worse, than OotP, which was waaay too far off from the book to even be CALLED Harry Potter! They don't want to hurt the movies or fans, my foot! They are such stupid, greedy idiots!! I, for one, am not going to see the movie unless they make a REAL apology and possibly move it back to at least March or April!

Its nice that Horn is at least acknowledging our outrage, but seriously, nothing he says is going to make me feel any better.

the problem with the whole thing is that this wait isnt going to make the any better. they are holding the movie just to make up for the the money they lost during and because of the writers strike. they arent going to add anything to the movie. and I get the impression that they are trying to convince us that the movie is gonna be better when it isnt gonna be any different. though maybe this time they wont have to cheep it up on the special fx

Has anyone questioned why Horn came out with a statement today. Things were calming down. Why stir the pot? Is this whole thing a publicity stun?

I appreciate that he acgnolioged the fans build this and the silver lining is well silver but he doesn't really justify their reason for moving it and that's cause it's stupid and driven by greed: people (me as well) went to see Dark knight for a diferent reason than HBP and even if they're right about the date bringing in more money that shouldn't matter, but sadly it does so no still not seeing it (at least not on opening night) and I encourage all of you to at least wait till the next day (after all it' whats a few more hours compared to the 9 months delay) and if you can download it than do that and don't go see it in theaters. They don't care about our complaints so lets hit them where it hurts - their pocket.

I wrote to JKR a few days ago because I was so upset and it would feel better if she at least told us if she thinks they do the right thing or not. There's probably nothing she can do but at least support/try to calm us. I think that's not too much to ask for.

I don't think WB or Mr. Horn for that matter understands the concept of STFU! Maybe we should send in some duct tape while we're sending them howlers. Idiots.

Thats a load of bollocks right there! How long ago was this statement made? Where are those snipers I ordered for the event? I have some calls to make!

NessaGiyen- lmao, you're comment made me laugh because it was such rubbish. They reacted as quickly as they did because they are getting scared about their assumed profit in July and they know how large the HP fan base is and how angry more than half of them are. They only care about the fans if their bank accounts are in danger. And let me repeat what I've said 534807 times. Yes, it's a capitalistic move... but what they're forgetting is that capitalism only works with buyers. The whole point of it is you want to please the customers because with no happy customers, you don't make money. Now.. I really don't think angering thousands and thousands of HP fans is a smart capitalistic move. It's not getting into their heads that thousands and thousands of people = millions and millions of dollars. These people aren't going to see it multiple times. They would have seen it multiple times if it were in November or December. So... they basically just flushed the millions they were hoping to make in July away, when they would have made it in the fall or winter. HOW DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? And for all you people who say, "It's just a movie." You wouldn't be saying "it's just a movie" if they canceled the film altogether, you wouldn't have been saying "it's just a movie" if you bought plane tickets to England for the premier, you wouldn't be saying "it's just a movie" if you weren't fortunate enough to have a good year and this was the one thing to maybe lighten it up. The fact that they're using Harry Potter and taking advantage of the Harry Potter fans really angers me. Oh and if it's "just a movie" to you, then you don't need to see it multiple times in theatres. You won't need to get super excited weeks before the release. If this is "just a movie" to you, then get off this site because you aren't a passionate HP fan. People like me, see it as more than a movie. And you know, to be honest, if they were to have post-poned it because of editing reasons? I WOULDN'T B...

I was upset by the delay because while I enjoy films, there are so few that I look forward to and anticipate. Half-Blood Prince was one of them. I don't have an issue with WB making money - we live in a capitalist society with great freedoms and I prefer that to a Socialist society or dictatorship for that matter, even if they gave me my Harry Potter movies on time... Having said that, I believe Horn's choice to delay the release will negatively impact WB's bottomline in the bigger picture. The audience is the customer. Customers are what drive the bottomlines sales. When one manipulates them for a short-term financial gain, you end up alienating the very people that got you where you are in the first place - and longterm, the business will suffer. Yes, I will go see Half-Blood Prince and the remaining HP films, but now it's with resentment. And as soon as I get what I want as a customer, I am no longer inclined to stay loyal to WB. I already boycotted Clone Wars. That's one person, one ticket, circa $10. Let's say 10 million fans avoided one WB film per year for the next 20 years. That's $2 Billion. What do you think of that WB?

BE MAD IN THE SLIGHTEST! But it's the reason of why they did it. And it's not even a SMART decision! It's stupid! I don't need to be working at a company to know how stupid it is! -- got cut off...

I was looking forward to the half-blooded prince. But now I have to wait. I am not happy. Now WB is holding off til next July, they P@@@@@ of a lot of fans. I bet the opening week will not be all that they are hoping for. Horn you will be fired for your action. Please boycott the movie at least during opening week or wait til it a the cheap theaters. Because if we dont show them who is boss they will do it again and we will be waiting two years each for the last two movies.

I agree with the posts bad mouthing Warner Bros and in particular, Mr. Horn. This is nothing but a money-whore scheme. Horn is a liar; he cares nothing for the fans. I also agree with boycotting this movie the first week. The fans have to send a clear message that this type of behavior is unacceptable. A petition needs to be made so fans can sign it and send it to Warner Bros. The petition should state something like,

CHECK THIS OUT: http://smg.photobucket.co m/albums/v727/Plugcollect or/?action=view&current=A lanHorn.jpg (remove the spaces). It's the real face of Alan "HORN". Use it as you like! Besides, I'm boycotting WB too. Every single person counts, let them lose 20 or 30% or more of their gains and then they will regret their arrogance bitterly.

Mr Horn, If you aren't going to tell us that you are putting HBP back in its November date, then we really don't want to hear from you. Nothing else you have to say is of any importance to us. I still can't believe that Jo has said NOTHING about this.

WB owns the HBP movie Not the fans. Yes WB is a company like all that are in business to make as many $$$$ as it can. So deal with it as their decision and wait till July 2009. My own opinion is that HBP is awful as it is so WB is going to use the time to rewrite, reshoot & reedit HBP. Then next July they will release a much better HBP movie, with some added scenes to as WB said to pacify the fans! A question I always ask is why do they change things from the books so much? Again my view is that the books being as great as they are why change things for the movies! I hope that HBP will be much better than OOTP which I thought was awful. The HP books are the true joy to me NOT the movies. As we all reread them we see the journey of our beloved Harry Potter in our own minds that way it is perfect to all of us as it was written.

The fact that our opinions have been responded to means they're worried. I say keep it up! And the WB can stuck the opening weekend where the sun doesn't shine - if I've had to wait nearly a year a few more weeks won't hurt. And I wouldn't have been that bothered waiting until next summer...IF THEY HADN'T ALREADY ANNOUNCED THE FREAKING DATE! Keep sending them your opinions http://potterso rder.blogspot.com/

I have been saying since the beginning that the people making the Harry Potter movies aught to take a cue from Peter Jackson and make a shorter movie for the passive fans and then put all the stuff they deemed unimportant but comes up in the end back in for the true fans. As I sat reading DH with my cousin when it came out, we kept wondering how they were going to deal with all of that stuff that becomes important, but that they cut out. If the HBP movie is anything like OOTP, it isn't going to be worth the price of a ticket. I for one, for the first time, will not be in line opening weekend. I am even considering not seeing any more of WB's movies.

SIGN THE HBP PETITION ON PETITIONSPOT.COM THERE IS ALMOST 50000 SIGNITURES.

For all of you say they understand because WB is a company and they need to make money please read. Harry Potter is being delayed because Horn may not get his bonus next year if he does not come up with a way to increase revenue for 2009. He does not care if Harry Potter makes more money. HPB may actually make less money in 2009 since there will be less hype. The Tales of Beedle the Bard and Harry Potter And The Sorcerer

WB thinks that they will make money with HBP like they did with Dark Knight. Okay we all know that. However, what they fail to realize is that many people went to see Dark Knight because Heath Ledger died so tragically. So HBP will not be as big of a movie unless something similar happens. So basically they pissed us all off for nothing.

For all of you say they understand because WB is a company and they need to make money please read. Harry Potter is being delayed because Horn may not get his bonus next year if he does not come up with a way to increase revenue for 2009. He does not care if Harry Potter makes more money. HPB may actually make less money in 2009 since there will be less hype. The Tales of Beedle the Bard and Harry Potter And The Sorcerers Stone: 10th Anniversary Edition are both coming out this year. Dan will be in New York doing Equus on Broadway. The only HP event announced for 2009 is the movie. Thanksgiving weekend (Nov. 27, 2008) is one of the largest movie weekends in the US. The reason OOTP did so well in July was because the book was coming out in the same month. I know alot of people who went to the movie and stood in line for the book. The actors will be filming DH in 2009. If they are still filming in July will they break to do the film premiers? Will David Yates and his staff miss the premiers or continue preparing DH? If everyone stops work on DH to promote HBP will DH be ready for the 2010 release? How many HP fans will flip to Twilight? Do not let Horn make you believe this had anything to do with WB making more money on HBP. It is all about him and his bonus!

I don't think we can blame Horn solely for this decision. He may have put forward the proposal but it would have to have been approved by a board of people at WB. He undoubtably will get a bonus, executives of huge companies always do when they make a truck load of money. It's the whole WB board and major shareholders that are to blame. We should be mad at all of them. Although i agree that he must have consulted the dummies guide to public relations before releasing these pitiful excuses.

Empty words.

have you erer heard the term yes men?

This is dumb! He's saying how the fact that the wait between 6 and 7 is shorter however he seemed to forget that making the wait between 6 and 7 shorter makes the wait between 5 and 6 a lot longer. So their just trying to make excuses but very few people are gonna feel better because of the lies they are tring to feed us. In my opinion he would have been better off saying nothin.

I don't know what more to say but I do agree with schenkl. And also I don't know why everyone is getting this upset... it's a movie. You'll still live. I am upset about it but I'll get over it.

Yep, but he doesn't own the company and therefore if those that do don't have the backbone to make thier own decisions they are as much to blame. I still despise the man. And i think this will have damaged his career. But this would have had to be a joint decision that came from the top. However,they must have made a lot of enemies in the publishing world though as many magazines etc. have been running with the november release date, cast interviews and suff. It will have caused embarassment to those publications and bad feeling for WB so it will have hurt the company.