HPANA is reporting that the judge on the JKR/WB vs. RDR Books trial has reached a verdict. The verdict is in favor of J.K. Rowling and Warner Bros.
Thanks to MuggleNet reader Rashmi for the tip-off, and our friend Jeff at HPANA for the news. We'll keep you posted with further developments in the aftermath of this prolonged case.
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09-08-2008 at 1:28 PM
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:33:06
Yeah it was obvious.. lol
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:34:29
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:34:37
eah!!!
go jo!!
woot woot top ten number 2?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:35:46
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:36:22
Oh, yeah! That took forever!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:37:10
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:37:11
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:38:29
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT?! AND #5 OR 6? TOP TEN AT LEASET XD
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:38:38
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:39:14
It took long enough! Anyway, YAHOO! WHOOPIE! YEAH! There is a God and He has prevailed against the wicked!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:40:35
well done Jo!Now you can focus on your HP encyclopedia:P
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:40:43
YAY JO!!! I knew she would win!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:41:09
OMG I knew she had it in her GO JO! GO JO! GO JO! this calls for an imidiate mugglecast or im gonna roll over and die MELODY)( GO JO ITS YA BITHDAY!!!!!)(MELODY)
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MUGGLEMADNESS!(go Jo)!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:41:37
smart move from the judge! go jo!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:43:09
darn! i didnt even know the trial was still GOING ON?!?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:45:16
It couldnt have gone any other way- Congrats to JKR!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:45:16
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:55:25
omg i was just talking about that! good for her...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:57:23
Yes! Hurray for Jo! Go Jo... Go Jo... Go Jo...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 13:59:21
That guy was a real stupid. And to think JKR used to appreciate him because of his dedication to the series but he really messed up things with his book... What a jerk... JKR has the right to fight for her work, and what Vander Ark tried to do was like a bank robbery..
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:01:17
yes thats grate congrats jo
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:02:26
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:02:34
Congratulations Jo!!!!!!!!!! Im delighted for you but they couldnt have come to any other decision anyway!!! :D:D:D
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:02:58
Congrats, Jo. We were all rooting for you!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:05:50
it took long enough, but it was always going to happen
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:13:55
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:15:43
Good. I personally couldnt see the verdict going in the other direction. Cant wait for Jos official version of what they were trying to do to come out (cant remember what its called).
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:17:52
JKR used to be my hero, and Steve was her biggest fan - I know, Ive met the man, and never a more sincere, true lover of HP analysis would you meet. Unfortunately, the years have turned JKR into a privledged, lawsuit-happy, lawyer-armoured businesswoman.
I miss the days when she was a writer, NOT a corporation.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:25:24
HELL YES!
And what kind of fan makes money by just restating HP facts into a book? Why not purchase something from JKR herself. It doesnt matter. Theyre her characters, she can do whatever the hell she wants with them.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:29:14
CONGRATS JO!! JUSTICE AND GOOD PREVAIL, JUST LIKE YOUR BOOKS!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:30:27
And before you call her "lawyer-amoured", remember that WB and JKR wanted to settle this quietly. If you refuse, a lawsuit is what you get.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:30:51
YAY! Justice always prevails! (:
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:33:19
kool. good job JK! wheres book 8? lol
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:33:23
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:35:51
Seriously who cares about this trial any more. Weve known for ages how it would end. Unfortunately, RDR Books has behaved like jerks through all of this and really given no reasons for their claims whatsoever.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:38:56
Go Jo! Congrats on the win!!!!! JKR FOREVER!!!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:44:54
to frannylovesharry,
Has it occurred to you that maybe Steve VDA is the one who has changed? He actually had it put into his contract with RDR books that THEY would have to field any copyright lawsuits! He KNEW what he was doing was wrong! Our friends over at Leaky bent over backwards trying to stay neutral about this whole thing and yet he glommed on to some unsuspecting, ignorant, so-called journalists to make snarky remarks about Leaky (and Mugglenet too for that matter) kissing up to J.K.R. Excuse me, but, if youre a fan of someone, do you make comments like that just to get your name in the press? I think not!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:51:09
YAY JO!!! Congrats! Im so happy that idiot wasnt awarded anything. JKR forever!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 14:57:30
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:02:33
I will almost always side with the author in these kinds of disputes, even authors I dont like. And I love JKR, so of course Im happy about this. :D ... just because ideas arent tangible doesnt mean they cant be stolen. Copyright ftw!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:07:59
LOL! WB & Rowling were awarded $6,750 US for their trouble.
Thats NOTHING for all they had to go through in this one. (IMAGINE their legal fees!!!)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:14:09
good for you jo one of the best authors around . would of like WB to have made a loss tho
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:18:28
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:22:15
never thought id be saying this but...GO WB!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:22:37
BAM!
And I agree completely with MKM :)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:26:46
frannylovesharry, the fact is, the substance of the website is not original work, and there are copyright laws. I doubt Steve was trying to take credit for actually coming up with the work, and no doubt he was a big fan, but that doesnt mean it was right to publish unoriginal work. As for J.K. Rowling, she may very easily have been spurred by the feelings of a writer, not a "corporation". We know Harry Potter is practically a baby to her, and I can see where she would get extremely upset over something like this without money being a motive. For my part, Im glad the judge settled on J.K. Rowlings side. The Lexicon is useful, but it cant be published by Steve.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:27:42
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:33:23
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:34:41
Im happy for Jo and I think the decision was a good one... but I still feel ridiculously sorry for Steve Van der Ark.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:35:22
Congrats Jo! Yes it IS about time, isnt it? =]
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:35:35
OMG YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! JO, HARRY POTTER IS YOUR PERFECT CREATION, NOT RDRS. :DD Im so happy for you!! *hugs* ^^
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:41:01
YAY!!!!!!!!WHOOO!! CONGRATS JO AND WB!!!!!! it took so long but im really happy they won!!! now theyll have another thing to discuss on mugglecast!!:D
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:42:17
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:44:51
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:47:48
YAY! I feel like this is a victory for writers. As I wannabe writer I feel its important to know that people cant take our work and re-package it for a profit.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 15:54:00
congrats to JKR. I wonder how long itll be before RDR makes an Appeal...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 16:07:47
Try reading Orson Scott Cards take on one JKR.
http://hatrack.com/os c/reviews/everything/2008 -04-20.shtml
I realize this site is a JKR love in (a phrase from the 70s for all of you unfamiliar with that decade; Try wikipedia), but I happen to think she was in the wrong here. You can also bet the farm this will go on on appeals for a long time unless the two sides strike an agreement out of court. Also just a few more points. Ask yourselves what is so special about the MuggleNet site? Isnt it successful off JKRs hard work? I see ads on the site. Who is collecting the money? I may be wrong here, but hasnt the MuggleNet team also published books discussing the HP series? Why is everyone so worried about poor little JKR when others have done the same?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 16:14:58
Correction: The last line on my comment above should read: Why is everyone so worried about poor little Steve Van der Ark when others have done the same?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 16:33:26
Thank goodness! I only feel bad for Jo for all the time, worry and stress it caused her. If you think through it hard enough, there is a logical rule to follow: if the creater of a story says you can not use their story in that way at that time and place, do not continue. And most of all, dont go into a lawsuit. Yep, that sounds like sound advice to me.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 16:33:44
Because, JayDeeEmm, "poor little Steve Van der Ark" isnt adding his own thoughts about the series, its impact, its connections to other literature, or speculation about points still under debate. It is an encyclopedia. According to news reports, when JKR/WBs lawyers asked for a copy of the manuscript, they said to look on the website, and the website is a compilation of JKRs own creative works. Though Im inclined to think her motives are not simply money, it doesnt matter. Publishing that encyclopedia would violate copyright. I do feel bad for Steve as he seems to have had his heart set on this, and I respect him for putting in the work involved for both the book and the website, but publishing that material is still illegal.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 17:31:41
YES! Is it just my ignorance, or did they take forever to reach a verdict? Are all trials like that? anyway, Yay!!! I knew she would win!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 17:39:28
yay! Go JO!! Its about time this trial was finished!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 17:43:25
wow. That was out of the blue...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 17:46:46
This is a victory for authors everywhere, led by our revolutionary heroine, J.K. Rowling. The leader who inspired so many to read, inspired so many to write, revolutionized the art of literature as we know it, and fought to protect the rights of all authors.
Well done JO! This calls for a Muggle net celebration! GO JO GO!
Number One Fan;
Harry Potter Prince
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 17:46:53
huh... was i the only one who thought this was already resolved? hmm... oh well... good for JKR!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 18:31:55
go go jo! go go jo! go go jo! congrats jo!!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 18:32:08
Im so happy! Good for you, Jo!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 18:35:46
does this mean mugglecast soon??? :-D
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 19:04:04
YAYYYY Congrats, Jo, I am so happy you won. Good for you for standing up for your hard work and ideas!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 19:33:31
Yay! I knew she would win! :)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 19:43:32
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 20:40:09
Mini MuggleCast? Pleaaaasse?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 20:44:11
First of all Yay for Jo. Second, JayDeeEmm money made from advertisements on a website are legal particularly like the ones on mugglenet. If they make money its not directly from using Jos work. Harry Potter is what attracts people to the site. People see the adds and Mugglenet can make money from them. Its like a movie theater, people pay to see the show and the theatre gets money off of the popcorn and candy sales. TOTALLY legal. Another example is google ads: Did you know google pays people to have google ads on their website; so do a lot of other companies. I know because I make websites. And for the other books that Mugglenet made, a lot of it is on speculation of what will happen in the books referencing past material.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 20:55:56
YAY for Jo!!! We all hoped for the best for her and Im glad she came out on top!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 21:12:17
I know everyone else has address this, but the Mugglenet site is FREE for us. Advertising is completely legal, thats how many websites thrive. Second, MNs book was based on original theories. Thats not illegal. And MN has irked WB a bit, but they complied. (MuggleCast T-shirts anyone?)
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 21:19:16
YES! I screamed that and glad that no one heard me!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 21:37:10
:D
Im very happy for Jo and even WB!!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-08 21:43:13
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally! Congrats to Jo! I knew/hoped this would be the outcome. Wooooooooooooot!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 00:12:45
YAY! I would of killed someone if steve won
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 05:20:48
while I realize this was a publication, but whats next? tshirts designed originally but with her characters being pulled down? anything using her characters so closely that disclaimer or not, she will sue them too?
I hope that this does not become a Fox-like internet hunt like down to the X-Files. Anything with anything remotely copywrited they shut down, and you had to be careful with your fanfiction sites....
lets hope it wont come to that
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 05:38:51
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 17:07:10
Yayy! Go go go Jo-o, you know what they say ... Get it? Like that song?
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 17:36:33
Oh yeah yay whoopee she won a court case that she was stupid to even start in the first place. Yeah great victory -rolls eyes- now JK is going to think she can get away with whatever she wants... Great...
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 20:14:27
We love you, Jo!! Of course you have the right to protect your own work; you already allow us to do so many things like FanFiction. I would have been extremely upset had Jo not won this case.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-09 22:44:58
To oscarsmom, on mugglecast and pottercast they talked about how Jo wining this court case would actually ~protect~ things like fanfic from having to be censored. I cant explain it here, just listen to the old episode for their reasoning.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-10 00:30:43
Finally the obvious happens! i knew she would win and i love her that much more for it! Take that Van Der Fart! GO JO!
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-11 11:22:15
Yea!!!! *does a victory dance and frightens others sitting in a quiet library* I knew it would turn out in favor of JKR! There was no other way it could have gone! Still, its a huge relief. Go Jo^__^
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-14 01:52:01
Yay for Jo. Took long enough.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2008-09-14 13:12:47
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2010-06-07 21:47:30
Very glad she won. As for Mr. Steve Van whatever his name is. He did have a plan as to what he was doing. He also knew I am sure that he would have some copyright issues. Harry Potter solely belongs to Jo. All the characters and their backgrounds, animals, spells, and places are hers. NO one else should have a right to publish continuing books to the series or branch offs. As for Mugglenet.com and their books and such things of that nature all topics come from us. The users and fans of Harry Potter. SO what if we talk about therories we have about the book amoungst one another. Also, if it is for a good cause to benifit other people in need besides one greedy hungry person. As for the adds on mugglenet ahhh we use the website for free!!!!! how else do you expect them to run it. Its also a full time job to be on top of everything potter. So ahhh If someone needs a paycheck Sweet deal let them have it. Way to go JKR For the WIn. Lets hope it stays that way;) and Way to go MUGGLENET for keeping us all informed.
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Posted by: - Posted on: 2010-11-20 11:33:14
if only steve could have just worked WITH JKR then none of this would have happened. i admire his dedication, but that's Jo's job... not his
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