Swedish Deathly Hallows translation may give clues
Posted by Andrew on May 25th | 134 Comments
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Posted by trixma May 26th 2007

I am currently reading Goblet of Fire English edition and on page 531 Rita Skeeter says the scar on his forehead (relic of the curse with which You-Know-Who attempted to kill him). Maybe the title is referring to Harry's scar and maybe it has a major part in the final outcome of the book.


Posted by fanatic May 26th 2007

Since I don't really have anything to say that has not already been said a couple (hundreds) time. this is going to a short post. I guess I am going to be having lots of fun researching this tomorrow. I just love things that send this whole fandom into a tizzy.


Posted by G11nyW33zly May 26th 2007

yeah im pretty sure it means Horcruxes too. They are sorta relics of death becuse Voldemort has to kill a person to get one.


Posted by matsemann08 May 26th 2007

I think the Norwegian traslator has desided to wait until he have read the book before he transelate the title.


Posted by yamikeckley May 26th 2007

i think that it is a different way for the horcruxes to be explained. they are some what a relic of someone, mainly the founders, and the horcruxes themselves lead to voldemorts downfall. i dont know exactly what it could mean but this is just my initial reaction.


Posted by evonline May 26th 2007

I've found an interesting meaning : Relics : A corpse; remains & Something that has survived the passage of time, especially an object or custom whose original culture has disappeared & the remains of a deceased person.


Posted by Daisfunky May 26th 2007

"Relics of death" Surely these are the horcruxes? That's a no brainer really.


Posted by morgaine_dulac May 26th 2007

Interesting thoughts about any special kind of power certain horcruxes might have if reunited. What other relics do we know? Let's have a look at Arthurian stories: the calice (Huffelpuff), the sword (Griffyndor), the coin and the wand. What from Slytherin and Ravenclaw can represent a coin and a wand?


Posted by makefamous May 26th 2007

It's TIDEN, not Tilden! Tiden translates as The Time.


Posted by Wand May 26th 2007

HORCRUXES HORCRUXES HORCRUXES HORCRUXES THAT'S ALL THEY ARE HORCRUXES DEATHLY HALLOWS: HORCRUXES RELICS OFDEATH: HORCRUXES!!!! HORCRUXES HORCRUXES HORCRUXES!!!!! the why do we not get to know whatthey mean unless we read the book? THEY'RE HORCRUXES!!! unless relics of death and the ghosts behind the veil?!?!?! oh c'mon!!! relics of death!! couldn't be more obvious than that!!!!!!!! HHHHOOOOOOO RRRRRRRRRRRCCCRRRRRRRRUUU UUUUUXXXXEEEEESSS


Posted by Deppified May 26th 2007

I wonder what the title will be in Norwegian, then..... 'Dødsrelikene'? Hmm. I will read it in English anyway :)


Posted by sirius_rox May 26th 2007

That's interesting! I can't wait for the book or the movie!! :)


Posted by lovexlaugh_potter May 26th 2007

relics?


Posted by snuka May 26th 2007

I think Relics of death = Horcruxes too. Unless we're completely missing something.


Posted by Daft May 26th 2007

The fact that I sent this to Muggle Net as a new-tip, along with the swedish releasedate (November 21) 2-3 days ago does not seem to matter ^^ /Daft www.rowlingf anclub.se


Posted by miss_black May 26th 2007

Relics of Death? ummm.. i wonder... i think it talks about the horcruxes, because u have to kill some1 in order to make one... and relics? because the horcruxes are like little pieces of your soul. yeah, it makes sense, defenitely.


Posted by KtuluTamer May 26th 2007

wow. number 66? a sign? I think not. this is going to be an amazing book. possibly the Best ever. capital B for that one.


Posted by sirius_rox May 26th 2007

I think Hallows is like Halloween because James and Lily died on Halloween!


Posted by PotterXfanXforever May 26th 2007

Yes, the translation sounds very mysteriuse to those of us who can't speak or translate Swedish but do you really think that J.K.R would allow for the use of a title that spelt-out? How much more explicitly clear can you get then 'Relics of Death' to discribe horcruxes?


Posted by vandy May 26th 2007

i think 'relics' here refers to a tomb (may be dubledore's or the potters')


Posted by Angiebelle May 26th 2007

MuggleNet, I'm not sure about other fans, but I'd really prefer it if this piece of news had some spoiler tags. This, to me, deserves them - perhaps I am over-reacting, but I don't want to know any more about Deathly Hallows than what I've been provided basically with by Jo... I'm both anticipating and dreading the release of the book (with many other fans!) and IMO I think the title should have had some spoiler tags, meaning we could see what the translated title is only if we wanted to. Half the fun of Deathly Hallows atm is figuring out what the title means. Feel free to disagree politely :)


Posted by Belsito May 26th 2007

ok I didn't have time to read all the above posts, so perhaps it's been mentioned before but here goes: The relics of death are some sort of anti-horcruxes - things to destroy them with or to protect Harry against. The horcruxes are relics of 'life' so you need relics of 'death' to undo them - perhaps relics of the dead that were used to create the horcuxes in the first place or relics from the Hogwart's founders. The cemetery at Hogwarts must feature in the last book (she had not wanted WB to use it in a previous film, saying it was important later on) so perhaps Harry has to visit there to get these relics, either as protection or as a means to destroy the horcruxes. Alternatively, perhaps these relics were already in Dumbledore's possession and will be bequethed to Harry. Somehow, I don't think Dumbledore had quite devulged everything to Harry before he died.


Posted by Padfoot_SiriusBlack May 26th 2007

I Dont know what to expect. Deathly Hallows is more of a secret book, out of all of the Harry Potter Books The 7th has been shushed alot! I mean we have the least evidence on that book than on any other! So i dont know what to expect, and i dont think the swedish really gives any difference of knowledge i have right now.


Posted by BigTuna May 26th 2007

Well...that means that the 'Deathly Hallows' are definitely an item, probably an old item, and probably belonging to someone famous, ie: Merlin, Slytherin, a saint (though I doubt it would be that--Jo tends to stay away from religion), or someone like that. They probably belonged to someone of "Good" alignment, at least from one point of view, otherwise they would hardly be 'Hallowed'!


Posted by _GryffindorGirlxo May 26th 2007

I think the title is most likely referring to the Horcruxes. It is possible that, when united, the Horcruxes belonging to the founders have some special ability. To open a chamber of some sort...Just a thought. I can't wait 'till book seven! Time isn't moving fast enough!


Posted by lunaluvgood14322 May 26th 2007

the relics of death must be the remaining horcruxes...cool! ILU JAMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Posted by mithril95 May 26th 2007

MlleMolly, I totally agree with you. I think she only released that title because it was kinda ::obvious:: that Horcruxes could be the title...I mean, what else is the book going to be about for god's sake??? Also, I agree that this should have spoiler rules on it, although it didn't ruin anything for me -- all it told me is that Horcruxes would be part of the plot of this book, which I naturally already knew.


Posted by Eriskay May 26th 2007

YAY, finally posted on MuggleNet! I've from Sweden and the site The Swedish Rowling Fanclub posted this last weekend, so we've been going over this on the swedish sites for about a week now. I was a litte worried that MuggleNet wouldn't post it, but they did and I couldn't be happier. And this means that MuggleCast will probably discuss this, so yay to that! It will be an episode to look forward to!!!


Posted by SofieMalfoy May 26th 2007

wihu :D the swedish name and release date, I'm happy! :D lol, ootp took like forever to translate and everyone saw how popular the book got, the translator hurried up with HBP as quick as possible and it didn't take long. ALTHOUGH, you swedish people knows how many mistakes with spelling it is in the sixth book. it's embarrassing, don't they check those things?!


Posted by hermyown7777 May 26th 2007

well it could be voldemort's horcruxes but that seems to obvious! i guess well just have to ............WAIT!!!! AHHHHHH


Posted by HPfanatic71 May 26th 2007

I bet the relics are the 4 items from the 4 founders. And when brought together they give the holder insane magical power. Hence they'll give power of death. But I hope only a heart that contains pure love can posess those powers. And Harry will need that special power to kill (the death part) Voldy. Just look how strong the sword made Harry in CofS.. He killed the huge Basilisk with it. Anyways.. just an idea. I'm also open to the idea of the relics being the Horcruxes.


Posted by ILuvHP4Ev3rr May 26th 2007

!! omg thats so cool


Posted by kajsa May 26th 2007

Just so you know, the Swedish Potter publisher is NOT called Tilden, it's called TIDEN. I know that for a fact, because i'm from Sweden. And that's all.


Posted by yialls May 26th 2007

This soooooooooooo obviously means the bones of the fonuders of Hogwarts!!!!!!


Posted by Fortescue May 26th 2007

Since "relic of death" is almost the definition for a horcrux, it's not much of a clue, no? Just an interesting turn of phrase.


Posted by steferrknee May 26th 2007

Relics of death? Well, horcruxes right? Seems a bit obvious to me.


Posted by Iceking May 26th 2007

It didn't ruin the book for me, but I like going into a book with as little info as possible, and considering how J.K. Rowling said herself that explaining what Deathly Hallows was would be ruining the plot, I want to go in cold explaining what they are. I just think this is on the same level of making the whole R.A.B translation that gives who the person away news as well. Though not quite as severe


Posted by serious_block May 26th 2007

Relics of Death: It has something to do with a weapon that can bring death to either Harry or Lord Voldemort. Clearly, the weapon (DH/RoD) pertains to the Horcruxes. Harry with the horcruxes = Voldemort's death. And vice versa.


Posted by Saki May 26th 2007

hmmm Relics of Death . . . could this possibly be talking about the objects that the Horcrux is concealed within? I mean we know that a Horcrux is the word for the part of the soul that is split. However, we do not know what the name of the objects are after something as powerful as a soul has been stored within them. Sure, Deathly Hallows is very mysterious. And I also guess that Relics of Death is cool too. But to be honest I think the title of the book may be a bit misleading (as was Half-Blood Prince). It may, in the end, just refer to the objects like the diary, ring, locket, etc. Well, happy guessing . . . can't wait to hear what PotterCast and Mugglecast have to say about this one ;)


Posted by sillyme May 26th 2007

i definately think they are talking about horcruxes here...what else could be 'relics of death'? horcruxes are a sign that you've killed someone.


Posted by sectumsempra99 May 26th 2007

i think these relics are the horcruxes. same as the hallows. this info can definitely support that.


Posted by iluvandrew May 26th 2007

hmmm...relics of death...relics of the four founders...who are dead..and have relics..that are horcruxes..interesting one last thought: relic- noun An object of religious veneration, especially a piece of the body or a personal item of a saint


Posted by Ginger727 May 26th 2007

I have been saying since we knew the title that its about the Horcruxes. Harry Potter and the Horcruxes would sound too obvious. We know that is what the book is going to primarily be about, since Harry and Voldie can't battle to the death until the other Horcruxes are destroyed. And as far as Relics of Death ... Voldemort had to kill people to make these relics. Therefore, relics of DEATH not life.


Posted by hpsawesome May 26th 2007

first thing i thought was horcruxes...oooh!


Posted by serenitynoire May 26th 2007

I think the Relics of Death could definitely be the Horcruxes. I mean at least two of them are relics (Helga's cup, Slytherin's locket) and well since you have to kill someone first (unless I have gravely misunderstood something), then death isn't too far away for association, I guess. (On a little sidenote, WHEN IS THE GAME REVIEW PUBLISHED?? I am going crazy waiting, and it's more than a week now since it was supposed to be published. I really really really want to read it! )


Posted by SiriusGirl May 26th 2007

I find that incredibly unhelpful. We won't get clues out of this, it just means pretty much "Harry Potter and the Horcruxes." I think. Well, whatever...


Posted by Mnemone07 May 26th 2007

To all the people whining about how this should be tagged as a "spoiler": this is not a spoiler; it's the title, for God's sake! What makes you think that any of the theories we have are indisputably correct? Knowing Jo, we are as likely right as not. And all the people in Sweden have to live with this title, so I don't see why you can't deal with it. I mean, God forbid you know what the premise of the series is about! If you're so concerned about your premature knowledge of DH, then I recommend you don't dawdle around a fan site, where fans like to discuss theories, because that's what fans do! Sorry, I'm a little short-tempered just now.


Posted by Serinity May 26th 2007

Hmm...the horcruxes? I have sort of a theory here. I downloaded the adult HP7 screensaver, and I noticed something about what was on the covers. PS- the Philosopher's stone. COS- the Chamber of Secrets. POA- Azkaban. GOF- the Goblet of Fire. OOTP- the Phoenix. HBP- the Half-Blood-Prince's potions book. And now, with Deathly Hallows, we get a Horcrux. Every previous adult book has had a picture that was one of the words in the title. The relics of death pretty much seem like well, a "relic", something old and/or valuable, and death...well, is death. Hallows are said to be something "sacred" or "holy" as well. Such as, perhaps...a piece of a soul?


Posted by Squeaky May 26th 2007

VERY INTERSTING, IT SURE MAKES SENCE MORE THAN "THE DEATHLY HALLOW" BUT I STILL CANT MAKE ANY SENCE OUT OF IT. I GOT SOME THINKING TO DO...ANYWAYS I JUST WANT TO READ THE BOOK. N MY PREDICTION IS THAT MAYBE HARRY POTTER IS ONE OF THE HOROCXUSES!! THEN HE'D HAVE TO BE DESTROYED IN ORDER TO DESTRYO VOLDEMORT!! TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ??


Posted by Krisdan May 26th 2007

relics of death=horcruxes




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