Swedish Deathly Hallows translation may give clues
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It does fit, though, because Voldemort had to kill to get the Horcruxes.
I agree that this should have had a spoiler tag or something. Granted, no, it obviously didn't "ruin" the book for anyone, but for those of us who are coming here because it's supposed to be spoiler free, it would be nice if no additional information hit you on homepage. And I seriously doubt the title means horcurxes anyway. JKR said that explaining what "deathly hallows" means would give away the plot. So, if "deathly hallows" and "relics of death" point the same thing, (that being the horcurxes), how would that spoil the plot of the book?!??! We KNOW there will be horcurxes involved, so Jo saying "oh, that's just another way of saying horcrux" couldn't possibly spoil the entire plot of book 7. It must mean something else, probably something she hasn't shown us explicitly yet. I think we need to start thinking outside the box on this one.
Relik in Swedish is an exclusively religious term (relic), and is used in the Swedish title. Relikt just means hangover or rest. Dödsrelikerna is religious language.
That these relics are the horcruxes was my initial thought, too...but as one or two here have suggested already, perhaps there's more to it in that these "objects," instead of merely being formed because of a death, may essentially cause the death of someone else (more than likely Voldemort or Harry- though I'm a firm believer that Harry will live through the book). Another possibility is that Harry encounters something marking a death significant to him, i.e. whatever Voldemort made into a horcrux after his murder of the Potters. Also, even thought the theory that all four of the Hogwarts founders' relics would have some sort of extraordinary power when combined holds water (think Dunbledore's speeches about how they must all unite to succeed)...I can't help but to think of Captain Planet. I hope she didn't do that! :)
This could have something to do with Stonehenge. Also Stonehenge is in Wiltshire which is the county where the Malfoy family live. Maybe it could have something to do with the Malfoy Family. Also in COS Lucius says something about raids and then he sells some bewitched items. Maybe the bewitched items are the Relics of Death or possibly the Relics of Death are the Horcruxes but they keep people like Voldemort alive longer... *thinks*
Hmmm.. let's think. Relics of death sound a lot like... HORCRUXES. Makes sense, no?
you know how some people think harry potter is satanic and against God and stuff which is completely gaytarted... i cant wait to hear what those same people are going to say about this book..............
This *is* a big clue. Here for the definitions of relics: http://dictionar y.reference.com/browse/re lic Kinda interesting. So we know it's something, or somewhere, in the past that's revered, and is related in some way to death.
very interesting, hmmm... interesting.
Hmmm... Relics of Death... I think Deathly Hallows has something to do with the dead, "saintly", inherently good people Harry has seen die at the hands of Voldemort's wrath: his parents, Cedric, Sirius, Dumbledore (although I am still not convinced that Dumbledore is actually dead - I think he's a phoenix...) but I'm not sure how Relics of Death relates to Hallows unless the Relics of Death are the horcruxes - they are relics of Voldemort's soul and he was only able to preserve them by killing others. My theory is that the 6th horcrux is Tom Riddle's Award for Special Services. Voldemort collects "trophies" and the award is, in fact, a trophy. It also symbolizes Hogwarts, is protected at Hogwarts (the safest place other than Gringotts) and has to do with his acts of bullying other people (since he received it by falsely accusing Hagrid of opening the Chamber of Secrets and getting Hagrid expelled). Thus, the final bit of action involving the last horcrux would take place at Hogwarts.
"Relics of Death," huh? That definitely is referring to the Horcruxes! Or it could mean the last final place Harry finds the last Horcrux and has the final showdown with Voldemort like it shows in the U.S cover. Either way, it brings us one step forward! Way to go mugglenet. =)
This was quite a blow to me since the theory I supported (that the Deathly Hallows is the place of the dead, the underworld) is now ruined. The Relics of Death are clearly the Horcruxes, and I think this piece of news should have been under a spoiler warning. However, (clinging on to some desperate hope) it just might be that the Deathly Hallows and the Relics of Death are not the same thing, and the latter is merely an alternative and more easily translatable title for the same book. Unlikely, though.
The Swedish Potter publishers real name is Tiden not Tilden :P I realy like the swedish name of The deatly hallows, dödsrelikerna, becuse it's nearly impossible to translate "deatly hallows" into swedish. YAY!! :D
I translated the site with Word and it's really funny to read: Släppdatum for it the Swedish edition of seventh Harry Potter-boken, Harry Potter and the death relics, is November 21. Since the title "Harry Potter wild duck the Deathly Hallows" is hugely difficult translated, special if one does not have manuscripts, sow chosen J. K. Rowling to give everyone utlänska publish houses an alternative title to translate. The title that was given where "Harry Potter wild duck the Relics of Death", what simple is translated to "Harry Potter and the death relics"! Släppdatumet for it the English edition, "Harry Potter wild duck the Deathly Hallows", is Saturday July 21, 2007. The title on the seventh book about Harry Potter and his last years on the magician academy Hogwarts was disclosed in December 2006 through a riddle on the author's homepage. Visit gladly the author's own homepage: www.jkrowling.com 2007 is that ten years since "Harry Potter and the sensible stone" was published and the phenomenon Harry Potter for first past saw today's light. The books about Harry Potter has so far sold in just over 2 millions copies in Sweden. The world over has Harry Potter-böckerna sold over 325 millions copies and be translated to 64 languages.
I definitely agree with the comment about the relic being the object that a soul is bound to. Relics also are used to protect others... So perhaps Harry can use the horcruxes to protect himself? Just a thought =] And I believe that this is definitely not a spoiler. It's the Swedish title. Just the same as releasing the American title. -Siriously-.. Don't worry 'bout it. I'm sure you'll be just as surprised as you would have been. Or maybe more surprised! It's all a puzzle that won't be solved until the book is released =D
If any1 is interested, the Serbian translation (still unofficial) is "Hari Poter i smrtonosni blagoslovi" (Smrtonosni blagoslovi means Deathly Blesses (I think it's the rigth spelling, the second word is when someone says "Bless you", tne noun). (I still don't know what Hallow means.) But it doesn't make much sence and I think that it will be changed. :)
This is interesting! I look forward to hearing what mugglecast have to say about it. :)
***Wikipedia definition: A relic is an object, especially a piece of the body or a personal item of someone of religious significance, carefully preserved with an air of veneration as a tangible memorial. Relics are an important aspect of Buddhism, some denominations of Christianity, Hinduism, shamanism, and many other personal belief systems.*** HINT HINT HINT:Horcruxes....of coarse..that was easy! these Horcruxes will result is death "Harry Potter and the Relics of Death" i hope its Voldemort! i don't want Harry to die,no offece to people that want Harry to die
The Relics of Death is a very interesting title, and is almost the same as Deathly Hallows. A relic is a piece of soul, which totally makes sense because that means the relics of death/deathly hallows are the souls of those who Voldemort killed to create his horcruxes. They must play an important role in book 7, perhaps in helping Harry find out more about Voldemort's past, and thus his weaknesses. Then Harry could kill him! I personally like the title "Harry Potter and the Relics of Death" better. : )
so.....I wonder what kind of clue we are going to get if we go to thier site. I bet it will be something about who dies and who survives. (sorry if I spelled survives wrong)
relics=horcruxes, obviously. i like that title way better than deathly hallows. deathly hallows just sounds kinda overdramatic to me. and i agree with MlleMolly- relics of death doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as deathly hallows.
People, go to Dictionary.com and search 'Hallows' It is just another term for relics. for the translation into swedish, they needed a simpler term of hallows, better known as relics. Deathly Hallows = Deathly Relics = Horcruxes The great thing about book 7 is that everything we want to know is going to be revealed in this book, so JK has no need to hint at anything in the title like she did in the previous 6 books. I know we all like to scheme and hypothesize, but this is one time where common sense is used.
What BS is this? This IS considered a spoiler, you know. I didn't see that Leaky felt the urge to put this news up on their site.
sorry to ruin the speculation but death relics is probably referring to the horcruxes but atleast this explains what deathly hallows actually means
WARNING! DH SPOILER SO BEWAR!: I SEARCHED IN MY FILES FOR THE PAST JK ROWLING INTERVIEWS LAST YEAR AND FOUND ONE THAT WAS DATED AROUND SEPTEMBER 26, 2006. JK ROWLING SAID LAST YEAR IN A SEPTEMBER ISSUE THAT THE LAST HP BOOK WILL BE MORE CHRISTIAN-RELATED LIKE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA! THIS IS TRUE AND IT WAS INTERVIEWED IN THE TRI CITY HERALD LAST YEAR! SO THE WORLD WILL FINALLY SEE HOW CLOSELY RELATED TO CHRISTIANITY HARRY POTTER REALLY IS! ***END OF SPOILERS***
But we should all remember what you have to do to make a horcrux. You have to KILL someone. Meaning someone hast to die!!!!! Does this make sense? or am I just crazy.
Oooh, so he needs a relic to kill V - v- Voldemort? or is it 'just' the Horcruxes?
a reply to phoenixknight 23, but why does this one need to be more Christian?,the others books were'nt as much.in the other books they only celebrated the Commercial Christmas they did'nt go to midnight mass or anything.Is J.K Rowling trying to please Laura Mallory or something?,trying to make it look Christian so J.K's books wont get throne of the library shelves worldwide hmmmmm........it makes me wonder .....i heard somewere the J.k Rowling is going to kill off Harry becuase she does'nt want anyone else to take over the Chrater,but maybe Harry was the one that got the reprive...i dunno...but i still think its weird just adding the spirt of Christanity in the last and final book of the series.
Yeah i thought so too Ronislove . Lemme quote what JK Rowling said to make it more exact. This story was published on Thursday, September 14th, 2006. thus, it's significant that Rowling - in an early interview with a Canadian newspaper - noted that she is, in fact, a Christian. "Every time I've been asked if I believe in God, I've said 'yes,' because I do. But no one ever really has gone any more deeply into it than that and, I have to say that does suit me. ...If I talk too freely about that, I think the intelligent reader - whether 10 or 60 - will be able to guess what is coming in the books." JKR also acknowledged that her two favorite books that influenced her to write Harry Potter was JRR Tolkein's "Lord of the Rings", and C.S. Lewis' "The Chrnoicles of Narnia." So you see, this is a GREAT clue to predicting what may come ahead in the ultimate final book of Harry Potter. And in Swedish, the title Deathly Hallows was translated to be "Holy Mortals" in English , another interesting clue. It seems that all the pieces are coming together for the title of the book. And JK Rowling is very sly and intelligent in giving us clues. I wouldn't consider this as a spoiler, but clues for the 7th book.
TIDEN not TILDEN ...well i just wanted to sort that out. but if you ask me i would say that im pretty sure that rowling is talking about the horcruxes.
I don't have much to say on this subject but I absolutely loved what Arry had to say. I cracked up. That is the hardest I have laughed in a long time.. Thank you so much.. I really needed that.
Also, I like the name DramaKintg. I've heard of a DramaQueen, but not a DramaKing.. It's nice to know that men can also be dramatic.
In my opinion 'Relics of Death' is definitely a Red herring from Jo. I dont believe that 'Relics of Death' or 'Deathly Hallows' refer to Horcruxes . Why should Jo create another set of terms to refer to Horcruxes ? My theory is that when Harry visits his mother and father's grave , he is bound to come across some relics of his parents and particularly his mother. To Harry, those objects would be most sacred. The other possibility is that this book involves some travel to the land of the dead / area behind the veil and harry could come across some relics of death in this process. When Jo signed on a bust of Hermes in the hotel where she finished Book 7 she was probably sending us a message ( Hermes escorts souls to the land of the dead in mythology)
Yeah i thought so too Ronislove . Lemme quote what JK Rowling said to make it more exact. This story was published on Thursday, September 14th, 2006. thus, it's significant that Rowling - in an early interview with a Canadian newspaper - noted that she is, in fact, a Christian. "Every time I've been asked if I believe in God, I've said 'yes,' because I do. But no one ever really has gone any more deeply into it than that and, I have to say that does suit me. ...If I talk too freely about that, I think the intelligent reader - whether 10 or 60 - will be able to guess what is coming in the books." JKR also acknowledged that her two favorite books that influenced her to write Harry Potter was JRR Tolkein's "Lord of the Rings", and C.S. Lewis' "The Chrnoicles of Narnia." So you see, this is a GREAT clue to predicting what may come ahead in the ultimate final book of Harry Potter. And in Swedish, the title Deathly Hallows was translated to be "Holy Mortals" in English , another interesting clue. It seems that all the pieces are coming together for the title of the book. And JK Rowling is very sly and intelligent in giving us clues. I wouldn't consider this as a spoiler, but clues for the 7th book.
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