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Neville


Audience Member: Hi, I'm DJ, I'm from Broadview Heights.

[Audience member shouts "Yeah!"]

Audience Member: Yeah!

Mikey: Yeah! Broadview Heights!

Audience Member: No one knows that. Okay.

Mikey: I do.

[Audience chatter]

Audience Member: Yay! Anyway, I have two favorite scenes. One is just the line, "the Snape-shaped hole in the window."

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: That's just hilarious.

Mikey: It's kind of like Roger Rabbit.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: It's exactly how I...

Mikey: Right through the window.

Audience Member: My second favorite scene is when Neville is being all like, "Oh, I just got this cut from like speaking out..."

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah.

Andrew: "...I got this cut from there." He's just being all bad and stuff.

Jamie: He was boasting about them, wasn't he?

Mikey: Yeah. He was, like, awesome.

Jamie: Insane.

Andrew: Neville's someone who really changed in this book, and that's why we had sort of - we were sort of - well, I was speculating that he might have been the person that had got the reprieve...

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: ...because he was acting so different in this novel. I thought maybe Jo would have considered killing him because he was so - he...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: ...grew so...

Jamie: He - he...

Ben: Why? Why?

Jamie: He did do much...

Ben: Why would...?

Andrew: Just because he - he - his head got a little...

Mikey: You're a jerk, Andrew Sims.

Andrew: Because I'm saying his head got a little too big...

Mikey: So you should kill him?

Andrew: ...and maybe he went out there and tried to duel someone, and somebody killed him...

Mikey: Well...

Andrew: ...whether it's Bellatrix, because Bellatrix would have made sense.

Mikey: ...you know, he did try to almost duel Voldemort and he just took a sword and was like, "Whack!" and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: ...chopped off that snake's head and it goes flying through the air.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: That would be cool.

Andrew: I like your sound effects, Mikey.

Mikey: I always use sound effects when I'm talking. It's like in real life too. It's weird.



Snape


Jamie: On that Snape point as well, I've been thinking over the past couple of days - I've been reading the Snape scenes and I feel so sorry for him now. I really feel sorry for him. I think he was one of my favorite characters, but I...

Ben: Particularly when he says...

Jamie: ...didn't really realize that...

Ben: ...at the end of the - the chapter when he dies, and he says - his last words are, "Look at me." It's obvious that the reason he said that is...

Jamie: So he can look at Lily's eyes, yeah.

Ben: ...because the - one of the last things he would see would be Lily's eyes.

Andrew and Mikey: Aww!

Jamie: It's the importance - but didn't she say something about Snape that - because...

Mikey: He loved Lily!

[Audience laughs]

Jamie: Because he abandoned Hogwarts, his portrait didn't go on the wall straight away, but she said that Harry would make sure it did...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...which I was very pleased about.

Andrew: Yeah, that was interesting. We did...

Jamie: Poor Snape.

Andrew: ...learn a lot in this web-chat. Oh, and James always suspected that Snape harbored deeper feelings for Lily, which is - which was a factor in James' behavior to Snape. I thought that was pretty interesting too.

Ben: And she also said that Snape and Lily could have fallen romantically in love had Snape not joined the Death Eaters.

Jamie: The story would have been so different then.

[Audience laughs]

Ben: Yeah. That would be crazy.

Jamie: Oh my God.

Ben: She said that Snape would have thought that she - that Lily thought he was cool. That's the reason he did it because it was associated with power.

Andrew: Come on up. Aw, so kind. I was going to rip on you for the Harry and the Potters t-shirt.

Audience Member: I'm Stephanie and...

Mikey: Oh!

Audience: Oooh!

Andrew: I'm sorry.

Mikey: Oh!

Andrew: Apparently I struck a - I'm just saying! I'm saying...

Audience Member: Now we got to do a knock-knock joke!

Andrew: I'm just saying because this is a...

Mikey: Knock-knock.

Andrew: ...Remus Lupins concert. That's all I'm saying. Here.

Audience Member: Um...

Jamie: There's a lot of hostility...

Audience Member: ...I'm Steph.

Jamie: ...around here, isn't there, Andrew?

Andrew: I know.

Jamie: Very bad vibes.



The Basilisk in Movie 2


Audience Member: Okay. [laughs] I'm Steph and I'm from Canton.

[An audience member cheers]

Andrew: Whoo!

Audience Member: And I was wondering - I had a little bit of trouble following the second movie, and I was wondering why the snake was following him through the tunnel and who that was and why. I don't know. I don't...

Ben: Why the...

Audience Member: I had trouble.

Ben: ...snake was following him?

Audience Member: Yeah, and...

Jamie: The Basilisk, you mean?

Audience Member: Yeah. Who was it?

Jamie: The Basilisk.

Ben: It was the Basilisk.

Mikey: It was Slytherin's monster.

Ben: It was the beast. It was the beast in the...

Audience Member: That was...

Ben: ...Chamber.

Audience Member: ...trying to kill him? Or...

Ben: Yeah.

Mikey: Yeah.

Audience Member: Oh, because I had trouble. [laughs] Okay. Thanks.

Andrew: No problem.

Mikey: Uh-oh. [singing] Harry and the Potters.



An Audience Member Delivers Some Jokes


Audience Member: Ow! She just stepped on my foot. Okay, I wasn't going to do this joke and they all wanted me to, but now that you - since you guys ripped on Harry and the Potters, we have a knock-knock joke for you real quick. Okay? And then I'll get to my real question. All right so, knock-knock.

Mikey: Who's there?

Jamie: Who's there?

Audience Member: Dead Hedwig!

Ben and Jamie: Oh.

Mikey: That's not even - that's not even funny. That's just mean.

[Audience laughs]

Mikey: Really, like...

Audience Member: Wait, I have something that makes it better. Why did Harry cross the road?

Mikey: Why?

Audience Member: Because Hedwig is dead.

Mikey: That's so mean right there too!

Jamie: You wouldn't have the nerve...

Mikey: Wow. You know what?

Jamie: ...to tell Jo that, would you?

Mikey: I was really sad. I liked Hedwig.

Emerson: I'm not going to lie, actually. I heard that like yesterday, and I thought it was funny yesterday.

[Everyone talks at once]

Jamie: Hey, why don't we all talk at once?



Meaning of "Remember My Last"


Mikey: I have a good Harry Potter joke if you want.

Audience Member: Okay, I want to do my question now - get to the earlier question. Okay. They never really explained why - what Dumbledore meant by his letter to Petunia about "remember my last." And we kind of were talking earlier about it, that either - that he was either referring to the letter that he sent to Petunia about Harry or his letter that's the last letter he sent to Petunia about not being accepted into Hogwarts. And I wanted to know what you guys thought about it and what he actually meant by that because nobody ever came out and said what exactly he meant.

Jamie: Didn't we...

Ben: Well, I think "remember my last" would have to be referring to that letter that he left with Harry that night on the doorstep because...

Jamie: I agree.

Ben: ...that makes the most sense. "Remember my last" - because at that point in time in Order of the Phoenix is when Harry was about to be expelled, about to be thrown out of the house. Vernon was saying, "the boy has to go," and then all of a sudden he changes his mind after talking to Lily, so I think it's pretty obvious that "remember my last" was referring to the letter he left with her.

Mikey: Also because probably in that letter Dumbledore explained the protection that Harry has while in their home.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: I know. I'm saying - I'm agreeing with you, Ben Schoen.

Andrew: Someone up here? There are a lot of questions today. Geez.



The Dursleys' Fate


Audience Member: I'm Amanda, and I'm from Canton, and I was wondering what you guys think happened to the Dursleys. Do you think Harry ever went back and tried to find them?

Andrew: Or at least go hang out with Dudley, because apparently Dudley really likes him.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Poor Dudley.

Mikey: Can you imagine him and Big D hanging out?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: I don't know, I...

Mikey: [unintelligible] punch Big D.

Andrew: I don't know if Harry would really be in a rush to go back to the Dursleys. Maybe just a visit, show him the kids, stuff like that.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Other than that, though, I mean they never really had a relationship.

Jamie: That would be so awkward.

Andrew: And even when Harry left Mr. Dursley, he couldn't even - he gave him a handshake but he didn't say bye to him, right? It was just like a silent handshake, wasn't it?

Ben: And Jo also talked about that in the chat. She talked about what Petunia was going to say to Harry. Do you know what I mean? Did you read that part?

Andrew: What are you saying?

Ben: I was saying that Jo also talked about that moment when Harry left and Petunia acted like she was going to say something.

Andrew: Oh yeah, yeah.

Ben: But she said like she had been so hardened about, you know, from her magical hatred over the years that she wasn't able to...

Andrew: Yeah, you're right. That'd be another...

Ben: ...go for it.

Andrew: That'd be another good question to ask Jo because I sort of assumed that was going to be explained later in the book, because we were supposed to learn something more about Petunia, weren't we?

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: So - oh well. Hi.



The Fate of Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes


Audience Member: Okay, my name's Kirsten from Dublin, and first off, this Dobby statue here is really depressing me, because I cried so hard when he died.

Andrew: Aww.

Jamie: Does anyone have a knife and we can stab it through his heart?

[Audience laughs]

Mikey: [in high-pitched voice] Dobby is dead.

Jamie: It'd be more realistic.

Andrew: It looks kind of worried now.

Emerson: He does look rather corpse-like.

Jamie: He knows he's going to die. I bet like a week ago that face was so happy, then now it's sort of...

Mikey: He was smiling and now he's - [gasps] Anyway...

Audience Member: All right, my question was, do you think George would still run the joke shop now that Fred's dead?

Ben: Actually, Jo addressed that too. She said that Ron actually went on to help George run the joke shop and they made lots of money together.

Jamie: Yeah, so ití's still Weasleys' Wizarding Wheezes.

Andrew: Yeah. Who's over here?



The Epilogue


Audience Member: My name's Katie, I'm from Massillon. This is more about my favorite scene, but from the epilogue, I thought it was cool how she showed everybody in the future and how everything was okay since Voldemort was gone.

Andrew: Yeah.

Audience Member: I always thought that Ron and Hermione would end up together. And I think it's cool that Harry and Hermione - not Hermione - Ginny named one of their kids after Snape and Dumbledore since he found out that Snape was actually a good guy. So I just thought that was cool.

Jamie: I agree. I thought that was such a nice touch.

Andrew: Yeah. The name Albus Severus was pretty interesting.

Jamie: It isn't as bad as Scorpius, though, so there again.

Andrew: It's kind of scary.

Mikey: Scorpius.

Andrew: We had a little ten year-old come up to us at the show yesterday and say, "What's up with the name Scorpius? I wouldn't like to be named Scorpius."

Jamie: Yeah, I wouldn't either.

Andrew: It was pretty cute. We only have time for a couple more questions, so let's...

Audience Member: Hi, my name's Maggie. I'm from Broadview as well.

Ben: Broadview in the house!



Snape's Connection to Harry


Audience Member: I wanted to know if I was the only one who caught that Snape really liked Harry throughout all seven novels. Because there was that scene where he's talking to Dumbledore, and Dumbledore tells him that Harry's going to die, and Snape wigs out.

Jamie: No, but I'd say that that was because that was the son of the person he loved, not because it's...

Audience Member: Well...

Jamie: Because it's a human being. Snape doesn't, you know, Snape...

Audience Member: Dumble...

Jamie: Snape doesn't do things because he's Snape.

Audience Member: Dumbledore asks him, like - he asks him like after all these years, have you come to love this, or come to care for this boy that you despise so much? And then Snape looks at him and says, "Always." Like he's...

Jamie: When was that?

Audience Member: ...always cared for Harry.

Jamie: I don't remember that.

[Audience members chatter]

Audience Member: What?

Mikey: He's talking about the...

Jamie: Yeah, he was talking about when Snape cast the doe Patronus and you can't fake a Patronus. So, you know, it's a reflection of what you really feel. He says "still" about Lily, about his love for Lily, and then Snape says, "Always." And then to look in his eyes, which is very sad.

Mikey: If anything, Snape would resent Harry because it's a constant reminder that he lost Lily to James Potter.

Jamie: And the eyes.

Mikey: And the eyes are what reminds him of Lily. And that's again why he died, like Jamie said, "Let me look at your eyes."

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: And that's probably why when they were - when Harry was learning Occulemency, Snape was like, "Eye contact is essential," just so he could look into...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...Lily's eyes.

Andrew: All right...

Jamie: I didn't get that before.

Andrew: ...we have time for two more questions. One over here and one over here. I'm sorry.

Mikey: Sorry.

Andrew: We'll talk after the show. We really got to wrap things up now.



Saddest Death


Audience Member: I'm Alex and I'm from Dayton...

[Audience cheers and Alex laughs]

Audience Member: ...and I was just wondering - I mean, I know all the deaths were really sad, but to each of you, what did you think was the saddest death? I mean, personally for each of you.

Andrew: Dobby, because the way Jo described the death - I've said this in a few shows now - she would say the way Harry carried his small body...

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: Just these little adjectives...

Jamie: And the way that Harry...

Andrew: ...that made him small and innocent.

Jamie: ...got the shovel out in the blaring hot sun and he's digging this grave when he could just...

Andrew: And then Griphook - Griphook was just like, "You're a crazy wizard" or something because you could've just...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: ...dug it with magic, but instead he did it manually, which was a really nice way to pay tribute to Dobby considering how much manual labor he does.

Jamie: Mikey?

Mikey: I'm going to say Dobby also. [laughs] I was really sad with that. Maybe Mad-Eye because I kind of...

Andrew: That one - that came so quickly.

Mikey: That was kind of sad. And then his eye was just like - Umbridge had it, and I was just kind of like...

Ben: It was an insult to Mad-Eye's memory.

Mikey: I know! I was like, wow, that's really mean.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: I like Mad-Eye. He was cool.

Andrew: Yeah. Jamie?

Jamie: Well, I really wasn't sad for anything and I'm not just saying that. It's because when Sirius died, I didn't think feel I could feel anymore emotion for any of the characters. He was my favorite character, bar no one, so I couldn't cry for Dumbledore or anyone in this book. But after reading this book and seeing how much Dumbledore has done, I think if I re-read Book 6, I might bawl.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: But Sirius' was just so sad and he was my favorite character, so that's why I didn't really feel sad about anything.

Andrew: Ben?

Jamie: I'm just, you know...

Ben: Eh. I wasn't really...

Mikey: Voldemort, maybe? Did you shed a tear when Voldemort died?

[Audience laughs]

Ben: Actually, yes. Of all the characters, probably. No, I mean, Hedwig - I didn't really - it was just a bird.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Mad-Eye was old.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Lupin and Tonks didn't even get a death scene and besides that - Fred was pretty sad.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: That was kind of like the loss that, you know, it kind of hit home. Like if Fred Weasley can be killed, anybody can.

Jamie: That's true. Yeah.

Andrew: Dobby? Not sad for you?

Ben: It was sad...

Jamie: He was just a House-elf right?

Ben: Yeah, just a House-elf.

[Andrew laughs]

Mikey: He's not part of SPEW.

Andrew: He's not just any House-elf. Look at the guy!

Emerson: He wants to make sure he alienates every single person in this crowd right now. I thought one of the coolest things in the whole book was after George lost his ear and then Fred and George were just like - they were taking it completely in stride and making all these ear puns.

Mikey: Amazing!

Emerson: You know, "'Ear, 'Ear," "Your holiness." You know, I thought that was so cool that they could do that.

Ben: So that was your favorite death? That was the most emotional death in the book for you?

Jamie: The loss of an ear?

Emerson: I cried like a baby when he lost his ear.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: All right, one last question for today. I'm sorry, guys.



Lord of the Rings Parallel


Audience Member: Hi, I'm Emily, eighteen, from New Hampshire.

Andrew: New Hampshire?

Audience Member: Yeah, college tour.

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Audience Member: So I noticed when the locket, when Harry was putting on the locket, he was talking about getting heavy and sort of burning into his chest, I was kind of remembering Lord of the Rings.

Jamie: Yeah.

Audience Member: So I was really glad that Ron actually left, because it made it different, and so there wasn't that whole - it made a different dynamic around the Horcrux instead of having it be this sort of thing that has its own mind the same way - it's not taking it from people to people, person to person, excuse me. So I just that was really - it came really close to almost making me feel a little bit uncomfortable with the parallels I was drawing, but - so - I don't know. I just thought of that earlier and hadn't gotten up until later. Also, my friend read Aeschylus, which is that quote in the very beginning of the book, and he said that the basic idea behind that is that heroes will live and have a happy life, and so I thought that was really interesting in how it ended up turning out.

Jamie: So if we had read that first we would have known that Harry was going to live.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Exactly.

Jamie: Why didn't we think of that?

Andrew: It was really interesting. I thought it was really nice how Jo had those two quotes in there. I didn't even read them because I just wanted to get to the book. But then also in the U.S. edition, it says, "We now..." What does it say exactly?

Ben: "We now..." Something about the seventh installment.

Andrew: "We now present the seventh and final installment." That was really a nice little touch there, but in the second edition that's just going to be reviews about the book. It won't actually say that there. So, anyway, we want to thank everyone for...



Show Close


Mikey: We have one more person.

Andrew: Oh. Sorry. Alex. I forgot.

Mikey: Alex has something to say.

Andrew: All these rehearsals and then I screw up.

Alex: Of course.

Andrew: Alex of The Remus Lupins. Round of applause for Alex.

[Audience cheers]

Andrew: He's going to do a little Wizard Rock in a minute. Alex, what was the saddest death for you?

Alex: Well, Hedwig, but Hedwig's not actually dead, so it's okay.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Don't start this.

Alex: I've read some theories.

Andrew: Don't start this, please.

Alex: No?

Ben: I think, actually, Hedwig made a Horcrux. We just didn't hear about it.

[Audience laughs]

Alex: That's the whole - that's the encyclopedia.

Audience Member: [unintelligible] Elder Wand!

Alex: Yes. Whatever you just said.

Andrew: [laughs] We are going to do a raffle real quick to give away the Dobby, I think it was?

Mikey: No. You can't give the Dobby away.

Andrew: I tried, guys.

Mikey: And the winner is Mikey B. Oh!

Audience Member: We got a copy of Deathly Hallows?

Andrew: Oh, a copy of Deathly Hallows.

Mikey: Deathly Hallows.

Andrew: Uh-oh, you lost one. There it is.

Mikey: There's the winner. It's got to be.

Audience Member: Are you picking?

Andrew: Sure, I'll pick.

Mikey: Andrew Sims is going to pick.

Andrew: This is really exciting for me.

Mikey: Who's going to pick, Andrew Sims?

Andrew: I'll pick from the bottom. Winner of the copy is Ashley Gregga, phone number - oh, I shouldn't say that. Ashley Gregga?

Mikey: Hey, Ashley.

Andrew: Is she here?

Mikey: Ashley, come get a free copy of the book.

Audience Member: She's over here.

[Everyone cheers]

Mikey: Yay! A big hand for Ashley. Come on.

[Audience applauds]

Mikey: All right. So...

Andrew: Don't move. I have your phone number if you do.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Well, we want to thank everyone for coming out today. Make sure you stay here for some awesome Wizard Rock from Alex and his band.

Ben: And also remember MuggleNet t-shirts and MuggleCast t-shirts available.

Andrew: Momentarily.

Mikey: And Remus Lupin CDs. Don't forget that.

Andrew: Yes, of course.

Emerson: I should also point out real quick that this will be the first and last time that MuggleNet shirts will ever be available for sale. On the website six months ago we were asked by Warner Bros. to stop selling them, so we have our few remaining shirts available for sale here tonight.

Mikey: I'm wearing one. They're pretty cool, guys.

Andrew: And we have the MuggleCast tour shirts which will also be here.

Mikey: One time only!

Andrew: One time only.

Mikey: So, guys, get ready for the Teddy Lupins. The Teddy Lupins, right? Because Remus is dead.

Andrew: One last quick notice: we're going to do the meet and greet after the Wizard Rock concert. So make sure everyone sticks around for that, then we'll be happy to meet everyone afterwards, all right?

Mikey: Here comes the book for you.

Andrew: Here comes the book. Yay.

[Audience applauds]

Andrew: Get reading, it's a long book. Thank you, everyone, for coming. We'll see you next time.


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