MuggleCast 109 Transcript (continued)
Mexican Independence Day
Andrew: Is he switching back over to Matt? Matt, are you coming back on?
Andrew: Okay, we'll hang up for now. All right. Well, that was good. That was good.
Jamie: It was fun.
Andrew: Alex and Toby, Brandon, and Tyler, great group of guys in The Remus Lupins. We encourage you to check them out over at FightEvilReadBooks.com. That redirects them to - that redirects you to your Myspace. I want to read an e-mail here. I actually - well, I'm going to start off by saying Happy Mexican Independence Day to everyone.
Jamie: Happy ñ yes, I agree.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Jamie: But actually, Andrew, it's tomorrow. No, no, it's tomorrow.
Andrew: No, it's today.
Jamie: No, it's not. The e-mail says that ñ well actually, it's from the sixteenth, but the celebration starts the day before.
Andrew: Oh okay. Yeah, so O Rodriguez from Mexico writes:
"You have to be joking. September 15th? It's the Mexican Independence Day! I'm sure I'm going to totally miss it. I wish you could change the date but since I'm probably the only Mexican writing to you guys about this and since I'm sure you wouldn't care even if I wasn't, then, well, there's my complaint."
"So Happy Mexican Independence Day, MuggleCasters. Greetings from that weird country south of the US."
[laughs] That's funny...
Laura: It's not a weird country!
Andrew: I was going to say, that's funny, because actually that's what I always call it.
Laura: Oh my gosh.
Laura: ...you're terrible. Did you just say that you call it a weird country?
Andrew: No. It's just the weird country south of the US.
Laura: Oh my gosh.
Jamie: Awww. I have a question. I have a question to everyone listening, please e-mail it in to the live feedback form, which wizard rocker would build a bridge to the other side?
Andrew: I don't know.
Jamie: No, no, you aren't supposed to answer. Wait until they - wait until the first person e-mails in.
Jamie: I'm sitting here refreshing, F5, F5, F5. Come on, everyone. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Andrew: Yeah. Okay, so let's do some stuff here.
Jamie: Go for it.
Andrew: So a couple of months ago - actually, sorry, let me get to an e-mail quick, from Lenna Blazer of Baltimore, Maryland. She does clear up the J.K. Rowling ticket thing. She quotes Scholastic:
"All winners will be selected by random drawing. Winners will be notified on or about September 14th, 2007. Odds of winning are determined by the number of eligible entries received. Scholastic is not responsible for late, lost, stolen, misdirected, damaged, mutilated, postage due, incomplete, or ineligible entries or mail."
"We still might have a chance," says Lenna.
Jamie: There you go, then. Two people have e-mailed in. Matt says, "The Remus Lupins." No, Alex did not do it. Lexi says, "Paul and Joe DeGeorge." No, not Harry and the Potters. But Mary says, "Oliver Boyd and the Remembralls"...
Andrew: That would be it.
Jamie: ...which is preciously right. We encourage you to check them out as well at myspace dot com slash - it is "Oliver Boyd and the Remembralls"? I think. If not, use your best friend Google.com and type in "Oliver Boyd and the Remembralls" because Google can find anything. Isn't that right, Andrew?
Andrew: Yes. Laura, could you update us on the Laura Mallory situation, please?
Laura: Well, I'm not really living in Georgia anymore, so...
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: ...I haven't been paying tons of attention to her. But...
Andrew: I mean, what was the last thing you heard? Has she been laying low, or...
Laura: Last I heard, she wasn't getting as much media attention as she had been. I know that she was talking about how she was going to appeal again. But to be perfectly honest, I mean, it was actually a pretty hot story in our area, because I only lived about half an hour from her. But it got to the point where people were just like, "Oh, we don't care anymore." You know, Laura Mallory, everybody knows who she is and she's lost like six times now, so no one cares.
Andrew: Right. [laughs]
Laura: Yeah, as far as I know, she's still working on her case. I don't know exactly if she has another date set or not.
Andrew: Yeah. Let's try to give her a call. One more time. People - we've been getting a lot of flack about calling her, like as if we're going to harass her, but we...
Laura: No, not at all.
Andrew: Yeah, we want to honestly ask her questions.
Jamie: Like, "Why are you so weird?"
Andrew: So if she does answer, Laura, you can talk.
Laura: [laughs] Oh, why do I have to talk?!
Andrew: Because I'm...
Jamie: Can I talk?
Andrew: ...going to be star-struck. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Anyone can talk.
Jamie: I'm going to be like, "Hi, Mrs. Mallory. I'm John Smith from the New York - sorry no, from The Wall Street Journal. I've got a question about..."
Laura: Oh no, that's terrible!
Jamie: No, it's fine.
Andrew: Another thing we can do now - apparently this feature was added to the Ustream thing when it crashed, so I don't think we're on the high-speed Ustream anymore. But we can do poll questions now, live poll questions through Ustream, that those listening can actually vote on. And then we'll get the results instantly. So anyone have a poll question we'll start up real quick?
Jamie: Yes. "Who would get the ticket to..."
Jamie: "Whose show is it?" first of all, and the "Who would get the ticket out of you and Laura if you had a fight?"
Andrew: Well, we can only ask one question at a time, so to start we'll do "Who deserves the ticket to JKR's book reading more -" excuse me, I just passed some gas.
Andrew: I burped! I burped! That's what I'm trying to say.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: Vote for me!
Andrew: "Andrew or Laura?" Oops, I typed "Andrew Sims." "Andrew or Laura?" Start poll. Okay, so the poll has started. Visit MuggleCast.com and go to the live page. And what can you do? Oh yeah, the button update. There's a little checkbox on the Ustream window, you can click on that, and then click on the poll. That is cool! I like Ustream. That's a cool feature. So I'm going to go and vote for myself here.
Andrew: So far...
Jamie: If Andrew doesn't talk for the next twenty minutes you know he's just pressing...
Jamie: ...and voting over and over and over and over again.
Andrew: Yeah. Votes are coming in quick. Right now, 80 for me - oh gosh, they're going up really fast. We're going to have to wait...
Andrew: We're going to have to go wait a few minutes. Anyway, let's call Laura here, Laura Mallory. Get her in the chat. I'm really - if she answered I'd probably be star-struck. I don't know what I would say.
Jamie: [laughs] Star-struck.
Andrew: No, seriously. She's - I'm really scared!
[Phone continues to ring]
Andrew: We should play "Living on a Prayer" for her.
Jamie: [laughs] Yeah.
[Phone continues to ring]
Andrew: Come on, come on.
[Voice message plays]
Andrew: Ugh! Oh, why - okay, that's it. We're leaving a voicemail, I'm sick of this. Hi Laura Mallory, this is Andrew Sims calling from MuggleCast. It's a Harry Potter podcast on the Internet. We basically talk about Harry Potter and the effect it has on children's literacy which is huge, quite frankly, and also we discuss and analyze the books. We would just like to call you and have a short interview with you for the show because we're curious as to your thoughts on the series and where you think it's going now. And also we want to know if you plan on taking your case to court any further now that all the books are out, or if you've just straight up given up. So give us a call back. It's 1 - our number is 1-218-20-62442, 1-218-20-62442. Okay, thank you very much. Buh-bye.
Jamie: I was going to prefix that - sorry, I was going to suffix that with, "Yeah, it must be quite tough being taken to court how many times and being turned down."
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Jamie: "When do you people know when to give up?" but I felt that could have been provocative, Andrew, and you did it so well.
Andrew: Well, thank you. I wanted to come across as professional first and then while we have her live on the air, that's when we'll rip her apart. [laughs]
Jamie: Yeah, I agree. Exactly, yeah.
Laura: [laughs] Oh my God!
Andrew: No, we wouldn't rip her apart.
Jamie: Yes, we would.
Andrew: Just at the end after we get everything we need from her.
Jamie: Yeah, exactly.
Andrew: But if she doesn't call by midnight tonight we're going to call again and really tell her how we feel about the whole situation. Is that okay, Laura? I mean, I don't want to - since she lives close to you, I don't know what...
Laura: Well, she doesn't know where I live, so... [laughs]
Andrew: Oh. Okay, I'm looking at the poll, it's been running for two minutes, forty-five seconds right now. I'm kind of actually ñ well, we'll get to the poll later. Let's get to the listener challenge.
Laura: Wait, wait...
Andrew: What? No, it's not ñ it's nothing.
Laura: Wait, where can I access this poll?
Andrew: It's still - no, you can't. It's just me.
[Jamie and Laura laugh]
Andrew: Okay, I'll be honest. 254 votes right now for Laura, 214 for me.
Laura: Keep voting. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
Andrew: I'm kind of surprised. I have this button here called - it says, "Stop Broadcast."
Andrew: What would happen if I press that right now? I wonder what would happen?
Laura: You wouldn't.
Andrew's Listener Challenge: Winners
Andrew: What's fair is fair. If you guys want Laura to have the ticket, it's fine. Unless we can manage to get two. Okay, so now we have the winners to my listener challenge. You guys may remember that back on Episode 107, I challenged the listeners to go out and promote MuggleCast in the pickle area of their store, of a shopping store or - you know what I'm saying. So we had quite a few entries and they are all available now in the MuggleNet galleries. I just realized I actually haven't posted a link on MuggleCast.com, I'll do that in a second. We got some great entries and I have to be honest, guys, I had a hard time picking one winner, because there were quite a few people.
Andrew: So we are going to award five winners today and each winner will be receiving a Pickle Pack membership ñ [burps] excuse me. Again, sorry. [laughs] Live radio, folks. I have to burp. We have five winners here and two of the winners are actually made up of three people, one group is made up of four and another group is made up of three. So really there's going to be...
Jamie: About twelve winners.
Andrew: Yeah. No, ten. Ten winners.
Laura: Very nice.
Andrew: First up: Emma, Katie, Becca, and Holly. They created a video ñ they're all in the UK. They created a video going around and promoting MuggleCast [laughs] and Pickle Pack. And the one girl walked around with a Pickle sign on her, and it was on the front of her and it was on the back. It was a gigantic sign. And they walked in the stores and promoted MuggleCast, Pickle Pack. And it's a whole video on YouTube, it's hilarious. We'll put a link to it on MuggleCast.com during the next break. So they win first prize because it's actually hilarious, the stuff they do to promote it. They took pictures with people. So great job to them. Emma, Katie, Becca, and Holly. Next, Calanth A. spelled out "MuggleCast" - I don't know how she did this. She spelled out "MuggleCast" with pickle jars in an entire aisle...
Laura: Oh my God. [laughs]
Andrew: ...of her food store. And I don't know how that's possible to get away with unless you work there, or you know someone who works there, or you plead with them. But it's awesome, so check that out. Third, Abby Carlson dressed up as a pickle in front of the pickles in Deli Market. That was pretty funny. She has a whole pickle costume on. So congrats to her. Vivian F. made a very cool cardboard pickle sign that looks great. And final group of winners: Jackie, Katie, and Kristen also made some great signs, so congrats to all of them. They're all winning Pickle Pack memberships. I will be in touch with them maybe tomorrow or sometime this week. If you already are a Pickle Pack member in this group of winners, then we'll mail you a T-shirt or something. So congrats to them. That was a really great challenge. Jaime and Laura, I encourage you guys to check out the gallery because...
Laura: Oh, definitely.
Jamie: I saw some of them. I got an e-mail forwarded to me - or I got one - and the effort that some of the winners put in and everyone else was incredible. I couldn't believe it. So yeah, I agree. Very well done.
Discussion: Things We Expected to See in Book 7 But Didn't
Andrew: Yeah. So that is that. No listener challenge today, not any new ones at least. Let's move along now. What else have we got, guys?
Jamie: I - well, why don't you do your "Huh?"...
Andrew: Oh no, that's not - no, I'm saving that until 4:00.
Laura: Not to backtrack here, but I think I'm seeing that we had a little discussion for the 1:00 hour that we missed.
Andrew: Oh, really?
Laura: That red highlighted one.
Andrew: Oh, you're right! You're right! Harry Potter stuff.
Laura: Yeah. That is what this show is about.
Andrew: It is, yeah, and we've been...
Jamie: Is it? How come I've missed it all?
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: So okay, let's start up a Harry Potter discussion. [laughs] What was one major thing we expected to see - I guess - can we say in the series? Well, no, I guess the final book.
Andrew: Let's start with the final book and then - we expected to see, but didn't end up seeing? Someone else start.
Laura: For me, it was the Department of Mysteries. I really, truly thought that we were going to see that again in the seventh book. It seemed like you would just have to go there again because there was so much about that place that seemed like it needed explaining. So that was the one thing about the seventh book that I was kind of sad that we didn't see. I was like, "Wow, I really thought that they were going to go back there." Did anybody else feel that way?
Andrew: Yeah, especially since there was so much emphasis on it in Order of the Phoenix. But even...
Jamie: Yeah, there was.
Andrew: To extend upon that, the veil.
Andrew: It's something that's bothering so many people now. I just - and I think we talked about this during the live thing right after we recorded - or right after we read. It's just the veil! What? It went completely unexplained!
Andrew: What? Seriously!
Laura: Yeah, I...
Andrew: Ugh! [laughs]
Laura: I mean, even if we didn't go back and see the veil again, I was expecting some sort of explanation as to what it was. I mean, we know that it's apparently where dead people or some dead people go, but there was no clarification as to whether or not everyone goes there or what exactly is behind that, if that's where Harry's parents are. Like we just don't know.
Laura: So it's...
Laura: It's all very confusing. I would really like to have that cleared up. I think we should ask her if we go to the reading. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah. Oh, if that doesn't get answered by the reading...
Jamie: Well, you can ask, Laura. I think you'll be getting the ticket.
Andrew: You're still thirty votes ahead of me right now so - [sighs] I'm kind of sad about that.
Laura: It's kind of like when we were reading the book. I was consistently fifty pages ahead of you.
Andrew: [laughs] Oh yeah! That's because you started before me. I was working on an e-mail, and you started before me.
Laura: Yeah. Every two seconds you'd be like, "What page are you on?" and I'd be like dadada, and you're like, "Ugh, I'm still fifty pages behind!"
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, yeah. We read at the same pace though. That was pretty good. So Jamie, something you expected to see but didn't?
Jamie: Awww, I don't know. I - this is probably just a personal thing, but I wish we'd heard more about Sirius. I know he died, and I know he died. [laughs] I know he's dead, but I wanted the mirror to be something related to Sirius, and I'm glad Harry found it, and I'm glad he remembered it, and I'm glad he used it to contact Aberforth and it helped him save the day. But Sirius was my favorite character bar none, so I wanted to see more of him. And - what else? What else? I don't know, that really. I really enjoyed the seventh book, so there wasn't really much for me.
Laura: Oh, I loved it too, but it was just - there was stuff that I was really expecting to see and then I didn't, and so it came as a surprise which is a good thing. On a level.
Laura: We really had a lot of expectations of the book, and I can just - looking back on some of the theories we made, I can tell that we were kind of like, "Oh yeah, that's got to happen. That's got to happen." And then...
Jamie: It didn't happen.
Laura: ...we get this book and it didn't, [laughs] and she completely just threw us for a loop. So I think that's great, but...
Laura: ...I still think that there's some question that we need answered.
Andrew: Claire wrote in via the feedback at MuggleCast.com/Live. Claire from Alaska, actually. She wrote:
"I don't think Jo wanted to explore where we go after we decide to 'go on,' and that's why the veil isn't in Book 7."
Jamie: That's interesting.
Andrew: It is interesting because - I think even Jo has said before that death is a very touchy subject, and if she did go into explaining death that could cause... [sighs]
Laura: It could upset people. I understand that.
Andrew: I want to say it could cause controversy.
Andrew: Because, of course, it is a very important subject, especially when you get into terms of religion. But I think - Jo could have been able to find a way to explain the veil in a little more detail. Maybe she is still, who knows.
Jamie: But perhaps it's like the veil symbolizes death because death is the unknown. She can't talk about it since no one really knows what happens to you after you go on.
Laura: That's true.
Jamie: I don't know. Clutching at straws.
Laura: It's feasible.
Andrew: Yeah. And let's see, I guess there wasn't really anything else I could think of. Want to take some callers now? See what they...
Jamie: Yeah, let's take a couple of calls on the subject.
Andrew: Okay. Let's get this guy in. Hi, what's your name? Where are you calling from?
Caller: Hi, this is Emily.
Andrew: Hi, Emily.
Andrew: Do you have any...
Jamie: Where are you from?
Andrew: Yeah, where are you from?
Caller: I'm from Michigan.
Andrew: Awesome. Do you have - was there anything in Book 7 you expected to see but didn't?
Caller: Yeah. I really wanted to see the veil, actually. I was really disappointed about that. So that was pretty much it. But I also want to let you know that I do know a school that does a Harry Potter class.
Andrew: Oh, really?
Laura: Oh, really?
Caller: Yeah. My cousin goes to a high school in Indiana, and they were supposed to start this a couple of years ago but the teacher had a baby so they couldn't, and I think they said they started it.
Andrew: Oh, awesome. Do you know what they've taught?
Caller: I think they were going to read all the books throughout the year, and take tests on it and stuff like that.
Andrew: Oh okay.
Caller: And I also want to say Gak [laughs] for all of them.
Andrew: Oh gosh. Gosh, stop.
Laura: Oh geez, another one.
Andrew: Why doesn't it all stop?
Caller: [laughs] Sorry.
Andrew: That's all right. Thank you for calling in.
Caller: [laughs] Yeah. Bye!
Andrew: Bye. Let's get Lucas in here. Lucas.
Caller: Yeah, hi.
Andrew: What's up?
Caller: Nothing really. But - what was I going to call about? I completely forgot.
Caller: I'm dumb.
Jamie: You don't sound so excited, Lucas.
Caller: No, but...
Andrew: Let me give you a conversation starter: We're talking about what we expected to see in Book 7 but didn't.
Caller: Oh yeah, Chamber of Secrets.
Jamie: We kind of saw it. Well, we didn't really. We heard of it.
Caller: Well, Hermione and Ron went down there.
Laura: We saw that Ron learned how to speak Parseltongue.
Jamie: Which was the most ridiculous thing ever.
Andrew: Now why were you expecting to see the Chamber of Secrets? I mean, was there - did you have a theory or something?
Caller: Yeah, I thought there was going to be a Horcrux down there, but yeah, there wasn't.
Caller: I thought that's where the Hogwarts one was going to be.
Andrew: Oh yeah, that's a fair point.
Laura: Okay, yeah.
Jamie: Anything else on your mind?
Caller: Yeah, there was something else but I completely forgot.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay. Well, call in once you...
Caller: I'll call in later.
Caller: I'm staying for all twelve hours, so...
Andrew: All right, see you.
Andrew: People should write down their thoughts so they're prepared.
Andrew: Another piece of feedback from MuggleCast.com/Live, Kelly from Idaho writes:
"I was really disappointed we didn't get to see more of what Snape and Draco did because there was so much about them in the sixth book."
Jamie: That is very true.
Andrew: That's another fair point.
Jamie: And going on from that, the sixth book was about Snape, the Half-Blood Prince. I thought there was going to be more to that - to the importance of that book as a whole. I know there was a huge importance to Snape as a character, but I was expecting more to the book, why she chose to name an entire book after Snape.
Andrew: Right, right.
Jamie: But we didn't hear much about that. But, Andrew, I think now is the time after what, two hours, thirty seven minutes? To ask how everyone is and how people are hanging in.
Andrew: You mean callers?
Jamie: No, how people are doing, listening in. Because so far, this has been the longest show we've ever done, right?
Andrew: Oh, you're asking us how we're doing?
Jamie: Well, everyone. You and people...
Laura: Oh okay.
Jamie: Just in general asking everyone - not actually asking, just checking in. See if everyone is okay and still there.
Andrew: I'm fine, thanks, yeah.
Jamie: Not falling asleep?
Laura: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm still here.
Jamie: Don't be so sure of that.
Laura: Yeah, I...
Jamie: The world is a weird and wonderful place, Laura.
Laura: It really is.
Andrew: Let's take another call from Bethany. Hi, Bethany.
Andrew: Hey, was there anything you expected to see in Book 7 but didn't?
Caller: Hold on, I need to mute Ustream.
Andrew: Oh, thanks.
Andrew: See, a concerned caller. I like that.
Andrew: I like that in a girl. [laughs]
Caller: Well, first of all, Ustream says that we all love you.
Andrew: Awww. Who?
Laura: Awww, yay!
Caller: All of us on Ustream, the chat room.
Andrew: Oh, cool. Yeah, by the way, there's a chat room. When you go to Ustream.tv and join the room that way, there's a chat room, like Bethany said. And lots of - how many people are in there? Is it a good chat?
Caller: A whole crap-load. Oh my gosh, everyone is screaming. [laughs]
Andrew: [laughs] Everyone is screaming?
Andrew: "Oh my God, we got mentioned on the live show!"
[Caller and Laura laugh]
Caller: I've been calling all morning, but I finally got in. Yay!
Andrew: Awesome, awesome. Well...
Jamie: Where are you from, Bethany?
Caller: I'm from St. Louis, Missouri. I was at the live show when you guys did the podcast.
Jamie: Oh, St. Louis. That was a fun show.
Andrew: So yeah, was there anything about Harry Potter you wanted to talk about, specifically the thing?
Caller: Well, I wanted to see more about the love room, and the one with the brain and everything.
Andrew: Oh yeah. That's such a shame, because that would be so cool to see visited. But - it all seems like great Harry Potter encyclopedia material, but...
Jamie: It does, yeah. And also, I think Jo just likes putting stuff in that can only be classed as awesome, like those brains. I'm not sure if they had a purpose there, but they were just cool. And also...
Jamie: ...in the final book, the dust figure of Dumbledore. It was just cool.
Laura: Oh my God!
Jamie: I read it and I just loved it.
Laura: It was amazing!
Laura: I know, I...
Laura: I'd love to hear more about that. And with the brains, I was kind of expecting something. I don't know if maybe they really had any relevance, but...
Laura: I mean, it talked about how - what was it? Like, thoughts leave deeper impressions.
Laura: Or something like that, and Ron still had the scars. And so I somehow thought that maybe that might come into play, like Ron might have some sort of connection to one of the brains in the brain room, and that might have come from somebody important, or something like that. So I don't know, but...
Jamie: It could well be.
Caller: I also have a concern because I keep getting kicked out of the Ustream chat room. It keeps saying that I've been kicked or banned or something.
Andrew: Well, I'm not moderating it, so I don't know.
Jamie: The chat room?
Andrew: That's weird.
Jamie: We're not sure about the chat room.
Andrew: Maybe because there's so many people listening. We're at about 860 people listening live right now. That's a lot of people!
Caller: [laughs] Yeah.
Andrew: I'm actually getting stage fright right now, I don't...
[Caller and Laura laugh]
Jamie: How many people are in there, sorry?
Jamie: Ooh, nice.
Andrew: Yeah. So we're doing good, we're doing good. And I continue to be disappointed by the poll. Right now we're looking at 290 votes for me, 327 for Laura.
Andrew: So, thank you everyone. I really appreciate all your support. [makes raspberry noise]
Laura: [laughs] I certainly do.
Jamie: [laughs] Yeah.
Andrew: So, all right. Well, thank you Bethany for calling in.
Caller: Thank you.
Jamie: Bye, Bethany.
Andrew: Awww, I'm so bad. I cut - more live feedback from MuggleCast.com/Live.
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