MuggleCast 113 Transcript
Phone Call to Micah
["Elevation" by U2 plays]
Andrew: Yeah, that's right, I played "Elevation" again. I was watching in the chat, I'm sure people were going to be complaining about that. Welcome back to MuggleCast Live!
Mikey: MuggleCast Live!
Andrew: 10:30 here on the East Coast. I'm glad Mikey still has some energy.
Mikey: I tried. Kind of hungry again.
Jerry Cooke: Oh, me too.
Andrew: It's me, Jamie, Jerry, and [pauses] Mikey. I almost forgot your name. And JJ Horgan, a special guest star here on the show.
JJ Horgan: I like that.
Andrew: JJ Horgan is back here. Oh. [laughs] We need to call Micah because - he wanted me to call because he couldn't be here, and he's going to be really upset so we'll get him in the chat and then we'll carry on with today's topics at hand here.
[Andrew hums and types on keyboard]
Andrew: Anyway, JJ, what did you want to talk about?
[Phone dial tone starts]
Andrew: While the phone is ringing. Actually, wait one second. [laughs] Sorry!
[Phone dial tone continues]
Andrew: If he doesn't answer, this is - I ordered my pizza live on the air, JJ.
Andrew: I ordered my pizza live on the air, JJ. That was pretty fun.
JJ: Yeah, I heard [unintelligible] I stopped listening.
Andrew: Oh okay.
[Phone dial tone continues]
Andrew: Geez, and we had Laura Mallory call in, and Dumbledore call in...
[Micah's voice message plays]
Andrew: And he's not here. Okay.
Mikey: Wait, wait! Awww, I was going to say let's leave him a message.
Andrew: Oh sorry. He'll call back. I'm sure he'll call back. All right... [laughs]
Jerry: [unintelligible] hilarious.
Andrew: Go ahead, JJ.
Discussion: Why Didn't Lily and James Potter Escape Upon Voldemort's Arrival?
JJ: All right. Well, I was going to try to be organized and put all this stuff together and some well-thought-out statements but then that didn't happen, so...
Andrew: Really? [laughs]
JJ: Yeah, I know. Surprising, isn't it?
Andrew: [laughs] Uh-huh.
JJ: Some Harry Potter questions. Now, for the listeners that don't know about me, JJ Horgan...
JJ: ...I'm definitely a Harry Potter novice, but a casual fan than most. I have some questions about it and hopefully your listeners and maybe even you guys can answer some of my questions. Number one: starting back, not sequentially but chronologically, the whole Harry Potter thing happens, right? Because Harry Potter is the boy that lived, his parents get killed, right?
JJ: And when that whole scene takes place, James is the first one to kick it, right? Voldemort gets him first downstairs or something.
Andrew and Jaime: Yeah.
JJ: And then he comes upstairs to get Lily, right?
JJ: All right. Now, you're a wizard, you can pretty much do anything. She's a pretty good wizard, right?
JJ: And one of the convenient things in your bag of tricks is you can make yourself disappear.
JJ: You can even grab someone and make them disappear too.
JJ: Couldn't we have avoided seven books about Harry Potter...
JJ: ...if she had just made herself disappear?
Andrew: Dang it, Jamie.
JJ: [unintelligible] has the answer for that.
Jaime: Like in magic - sorry, like in the real world there are degrees of sort of professionalism and degrees of ability. And Voldemort is a master of sort of planning and cunning, and there are ways that he knows that other people do not know. For example, in Book 7 he is able to restrict one person using invisible binds due to his magical ability and because they don't understand the ability that goes into it, they can't get themselves out of his bind. So he, I would assume, would cast a spell on that house to stop Lily and James escaping or doing anything to stop him going through with his plan. He's a psychopath.
JJ: Oh. So it can just be explained like that?
JJ: He's a psychopath.
Mikey: He's a psychopath. He kills people.
JJ: Maybe they should put that in the end notes or something because...
Jaime: She's already said he is a psychopath.
Andrew: Yeah, but...
JJ: He could stop people from Apparating just at will?
Jaime: Sorry? I'm sure he can. He can make Hogwarts shake...
Jaime: ...and anyone who can do that is a master in my book and my strow.
Andrew: And to Apparate, you need to really be focused on where you're going, right?
JJ: Yeah, but I mean, how many times did we see even in - after the wedding when people are Apparating left and right. I mean, how focused could they have been when the Death Eaters are coming?
Andrew: That's true. I mean, I was going to say, because...
Jerry: It can be a panic reflex they can't do it as well, surely.
Andrew: Well yeah, but they...
Jerry: And they can...
Andrew: They could have been all panicking at the wedding too, I guess.
Andrew: To what JJ is trying to say. But say you're Voldemort right into the eye. You can't possibly Apparate away from that. You want to, but...,
JJ: Well, she tries to keep the door locked, right? Didn't they say in passing she does something to the door? And he just kind of laughs that off like a joke?
Andrew: I don't remember that specifically, but...
Jaime: Yes, yes, he did. She put a load of books [laughs] and bookcases and stuff in front of the door and he blasts that off.
JJ: Yeah, come on. Maybe she should have...
JJ: ...concentrated her efforts on Apparating.
Andrew: [laughs] Well...
Jaime: No, no, what she would have done was hid behind the door with a frying pan because although Voldemort is highly...
Andrew: A frying pan?
Jaime: Yeah, he's not telepathic.
Jaime: She could have hit him over the head, she could have got him in a headlock and done something to him. There are other ways to...
JJ: She has a wand and you're saying she should get a frying pan?
Jaime: No, she can't duel him on magical ability so she has to find another way.
Jaime: Perhaps she could seduce him.
JJ: So maybe she should have kicked him...
Jaime: In the private area.
JJ: ...you know, in the little Voldemort.
Jaime: You should have written the...
Mikey: In the little Voldemort?
Mikey: What is that? God.
Andrew: That's funny. [laughs]
JJ: I hear what you're saying, Jamie, but in one breath you just said that he can stop people from Apparating just because he's a psychopath but she should have gotten a frying pan.
Jaime: You don't know [laughs] the forcefulness behind a woman with a frying pan.
Jaime: Not that I know, but...
JJ: It must be a British thing.
Jaime: What, a frying pan? [laughs]
Jerry: Definitely a British thing.
Andrew: [laughs] So what else...
Jaime: Perhaps she'll use bacon to...
JJ: I don't know, Andrew. Perhaps a caller would like to call in and talk about that. I think I've unearthed something pretty significant.
Andrew: Okay. Well, let's see if someone - here, we have a caller right here. Michelle, do you have anything to add to this discussion?
JJ: Hi, Michelle.
Andrew: She's speechless. Okay, let's try someone else.
JJ: [in a high-pitched voice] Hi, Andrew. It's me, Michelle.
Andrew: [laughs] Oh, someone called JJ. We'll have two JJs here. JJ?
Caller: Holy cow, you guys picked up. Hang on.
Caller: Let me mute my thingy.
Andrew: Okay, thank you. Concerned caller. JJ...
Caller: All right, can you guys hear me?
Andrew: Yeah, JJ, let me introduce you to JJ.
Caller: [laughs] Hey.
Andrew: Were you listening to the discussion at hand?
Caller: Yeah, about the frying pan? About the wand and the frying pan?
JJ: [unintelligible] ten hours.
Caller: Say that again.
Caller: Can you say that again?
Andrew: Say that again, JJ. Capella.
JJ: [unintelligible] wanted to compliment you guys on this being the best part of the ten and a half hours so far.
JJ: It's become riveting once again.
Andrew: Well, it is riveting, I'll tell you that.
Andrew: So go ahead, JJ. Caller.
Caller: Which JJ are you talking about now, Andrew?
Andrew: You. I'll refer to you as...
Caller: JJ 1.
Andrew: ...JJ 2. I'll refer to you as the real JJ.
Andrew: [laughs] Go ahead.
Caller: Wow, I'm actually kind of surprised you guys picked up because this is officially my second time on the show because way back when you guys picked up I'm from Alpharetta.
Andrew: Oh okay. Yeah.
Caller: Not really? That's cool.
Andrew: No, no, I remember it.
Caller: Okay, so I was listening at the very beginning of the morning and then I finally got back from my audition all day. And I wanted to ask you, Andrew, have you guys talked about Steve Jobs reducing the iPhone by $200?
Andrew: Now, wait a second...
Mikey: Wait, wait, wait, I can't talk about Apple products at all.
Caller: I had to ask it, Andrew.
Andrew: [laughs] Mikey just jumps right in.
Caller: So I'm so sorry.
Mikey: Guys, I'm going to have to leave.
Andrew: There's no reason to fret, because Steve Jobs handed me a hundred dollars the other day.
Caller: There you go. There you go.
Andrew: Those two days. I was very happy about that.
Andrew: But do you want to add to this discussion we're talking about right now? Do you have anything to add?
Caller: Sure, I'll add. Okay, give me a little recap again. Sorry, I'm so excited to be on the show. Give me a little twenty-second recap.
Andrew: Well, basically real JJ is saying that Lily could have just Apparated. Or sorry, the first JJ is saying Lily could have just Apparated when Voldemort came up to kill her and Harry.
Andrew: Would you agree with this or what?
Caller: Well, would she have taken her kid? Like, would she have taken Harry with her?
Andrew: Well, you would assume so.
JJ: [unintelligible] this whole time
Caller: I would have done it. Sorry, dude, if I had the chance of Apparating out of my own house with my own kid - like as a girl, I would have done it.
Andrew: No, no, but we're saying, why didn't she?
Caller: Why didn't she? Maybe she just felt really compelled to stand her ground because the guy just murdered her husband. I don't know.
JJ: Oh, that's a good...
Andrew: Oh, that is a good answer, yeah. Plus it's her house that Voldemort is in, you know?
Mikey: I don't think...
Caller: I mean, maybe she was just like, "Dude, this is my area. Get the heck out of my house. You can't do this. You just can't walk into my house and try to kill my son without putting up with me first."
Andrew: Fair point. Rebuttal?
Caller: There you go.
Andrew: JJ 1?
JJ: No, that's pretty legit.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay.
JJ: That's a better answer than the frying pan.
[Andrew and Caller laugh]
Jaime: Less practical.
JJ: Very well thought out, JJ.
Caller: Well, why would Harry have a frying pan in his bedroom, JJ 1?
Andrew: No, that point...
Mikey: You guys, come on. I know why.
Andrew: That point was risen by Jamie, actually.
Caller: Sorry, Jamie.
Mikey: Guys, he has a frying pan in his room because...
Jaime: No, I think it's extremely a bit sort of close minded to ask why he wouldn't. You should be asking why he would. He could very well have one because something happened as a child, even though he was a child, and he liked frying pans for some reason. Or he was - okay, I can't think of anything. This is - [laughs] I'm so tired.
Caller: Okay, Jamie, I can play devil's advocate and think on this one with you. Okay?
Andrew: Go for it.
Caller: Do you want to hear my little rebuttal?
Jaime: I'll buy you something nice.
Andrew: You have good audio whereas Jamie is incapable of...
Jaime: Yes, Andrew.
Andrew: ...having consistently loud audio. [laughs]
Caller: Okay. Well...
Jaime: I'm sorry, my computer turned it down for me...
[Andrew and Caller laugh]
Jaime: ...and I can't do anything about it.
Caller: Okay. Well, to help your theory with the frying pan, Jamie, I'm reading this book right now, Like Water for Chocolate, Laura Esquivel, I think that's how she pronounced her name. Well anyways, in the book the little baby - [laughs] well, the baby in this book, to stay with her real mother, Tita the main character...
Caller: ...has to have a frying pan with food in her bedroom to get her used to her mother.
Jaime: That is so true. That is exactly what happened in Harry Potter as well.
Andrew: Okay. Well, that's just silly.
Andrew: Silly, Andrew? Silly? Are you denouncing someone else's carefully-written book silly?
Andrew: Well, thank you, JJ, for calling in.
Caller: No problem, Andrew. Pleasure to be on the show as always.
Andrew: Thank you. You win as always. As always.
[Andrew and Caller laugh]
Andrew: Just kidding.
Caller: Bye, dude. [laughs]
Jaime: I like that person.
Andrew: What were you saying, JJ 1?
JJ: Just reminding all the callers to vote Andrew Sims in the sixth movie.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay.
JJ: Andrew Sims for the sixth movie.
Mikey: Oh yeah, how is that poll going? How far down am I?
Andrew: Oh yeah, let's check it out. Jamie is winning, I'm in second place, Mikey's in third, and Ben's got a close fourth.
Mikey: Woah, you mean I'm actually above Ben? That surprises me.
Discussion: Which Character Would You Want to Play in the Harry Potter Films?
JJ: Can I throw out another question here?
Andrew: Yeah, go ahead. And Chloe is on the line now. I think she would be a good person to fight and...
JJ: Well, Chloe can...
JJ: Hi, Chloe.
Andrew: Hi. Oh, and we lost a connection. I'll call her back. But go ahead, explain.
JJ: Well, Chloe can maybe get on it when you pick this back up, but I'll pose this and it's probably something you've been told before, but let's assume that because of your massive Harry Potter hand that you can get you and all your buddies into the next movie.
Andrew: [laughs] Why do you keep bringing this up?
JJ: What part do you want to play?
JJ: This is a good question for a Harry Potter fan. If you could be in the movie, where do you see yourself?
Jaime: A tree.
Andrew: No, I wouldn't...
Andrew: Honestly - that's kind of a good question. If we were to be in the Harry Potter movies...
Caller: Hi, I'm actually calling as part of the discussion tonight.
Andrew: Okay. Well, hold on one second.
Andrew: This is actually a good question. If we were all offered a part in the movie, which part would we take?
[Jamie and Mikey respond]
Andrew: One at a time now. One at a time now.
Mikey: I want to be part of the Order. That's what I really would want.
JJ: Do you have a specific character in mind?
Mikey: Well, if I had to be a specific character, I want to be Harry. But... [laughs]
JJ: Come on, let's be realistic.
Mikey: No, realistic - I would just like to be an Order member, like we saw some random characters fighting or whatever. Or just a student in the DA, you know what I mean?
Mikey: Like who was Nigel? You know what I mean? Give me a random character: Mikey B, who knows?
[Jamie and Mikey laugh]
Mikey: I would love to just have a wand and be like, stick it to the man, stick it to the Death Eaters.
Andrew: A lot of people in the chat are saying Jamie would be great for Teddy Lupin, but that's not...
Jaime: I don't think that would work.
Mikey: [laughs] I think Alex would be a great Teddy Lupin!
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah!
Mikey: Alex Carpenter from The Remus Lupins, he would be a perfect Teddy Lupin. Just have a quick pan shot of him making out with some girl.
[Jamie and Mikey laugh]
Mikey: He would hate that.
Andrew: I'm going to be lame and say if I had to pick - God, I can't think of what other role I'd be able to do besides Harry.
Andrew: I couldn't be Hagrid or Dumbledore. But I mean, at my age. Well, I guess - okay.
JJ: You could be a young Dumbledore.
Andrew: Yeah, if...
JJ: Don't forget, there's a young Dumbledore...
JJ: ...in the seventh book.
Andrew: Okay, that's true. I'll say...
JJ: Or Dumbledore's buddy that he duels with because that guy...
Jaime: Oh, Grindelwald?
Mikey: Oh, I would love to be Grindelwald. That would be so cool to be a young Grindelwald.
JJ: Ahhh, see? You don't need to think about teenage...
Mikey: I didn't even think about it. Wow.
Mikey: Oh, can I be a young Kingsley Shacklebolt? [laughs] I love Shacklebolt. I'm sorry, guys.
Jaime: [laughs] Shacklebolt.
Andrew: Somebody said Andrew for director.
Andrew: I think I'll take that instead.
Jerry: Andrew for Ariana Dumbledore. [laughs]
JJ: What do you think, Andrew? Slughorn for me?
Andrew: Slughorn? Actually - well, Slughorn would be good. I would also put you in the Hagrid category.
JJ: Oh, that's a compliment.
Andrew: No, no. [laughs] No, I'm just saying. I think you'd - never mind. Slughorn, yeah. Slughorn would be great for you. Or how about...
JJ: Hagrid is kind of a giant. I think Slughorn is just a giant waste of space.
Andrew: [laughs] Well...
JJ: [unintelligible] I think I can play that really well.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay, yeah.
JJ: I don't have visions of grandeur like other people.
Andrew: Nick - Brandon just IM'd me. He said...
Jaime: Andrew for Harry, yeah.
Andrew: ...I should be Harry Potter. He still said on the fact that I have the Harry accent which I don't understand. But thanks, Brandon.
Jerry: "I'm Harry Potter!"
Andrew: Yeah. Okay...
Andrew: ...so another thing - go ahead, Jamie.
Jaime: I was just going to say, Mikey, someone in the chatroom said that Mikey B should play Mikey B. Apparently there's a character I missed called Mikey B.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Jerry: You missed that? If you were reading...
Jaime: Well, I heard he was badass, dude, but I can't remember him.
Mikey: Because this is what happened is his wand work is just so fast. He's Mikey B! His wand work is just like [makes dueling noises] round, like...
Mikey: You guys are totally missing me. My arms are flailing, I'm making sound effects right now. [laughs] It would be so amazing to have a Mikey B character. I'm sorry.
Jaime: No, you see, Mikey, I don't think you'd use your wand, I think you'd just talk to Voldemort. He'd try and kill you, and you'd be like, "Dude."
Mikey: "Dude, seriously, relax. Chill."
Jaime: "What are we doing here, guys?"
Mikey: "What are we doing here?" Yeah.
Mikey: I would use logic because again, I'm a lover, not a fighter. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
Jaime: [laughs] There'd be like, [imitating Mikey B] "I'm Voldemort. I'm Mikey B. I'm Voldy. I'm Voldy M."
Andrew: Okay. Well, let's get back to the...
Mikey: Voldy M, really? Sorry, Andrew.
Andrew: One more burning topic, JJ. Then we'll move on.
JJ: I think Chloe wants to...
Caller: I just want to say really quickly - yeah.
Andrew: [laughs] What, Chloe?
Caller: [laughs] I just want to say personally I'd want to be any character that gets to make out with Rupert Grint, but that might just be me.
Andrew: Oh my God. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Mikey: I want to be Lav-Lav.
Mikey: I want to be Lav-Lav, guys. I want to be Lav-Lav.
Mikey: Really. Lav-Lav.
Caller: Yeah. I have some friends who are like, "Yeah, you should totally go for that."
Andrew: All right, so JJ?
JJ: Oh, I'm sorry. [laughs] I forget.
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]
Caller: Shock because... [unintelligible]
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