MuggleCast 120 Transcript (continued)
News Discussion: Movie 6 Sneak Peek
Andrew: Half-Blood Prince sneak peek. We got this
the other day. There's a couple of things to talk about with this story. This was a really good idea, I thought, WB had, when they announced that there was going to be sneak peek at Half-Blood Prince on the Order of the Phoenix DVD. I thought, "How are they doing that?" They just started filming, and how do they have stuff already to put on the DVD? Because you have to have the DVD prepared like a month or two ago to go to print and all that, and then here comes this brilliant idea: it's online, but you have to have your disc in the computer in order to click on these clips. I thought that was a great idea! Did anyone else get excited? I thought that was so cool! [laughs]
Laura: I guess...
Andrew: Yeah, dork, exactly. [laughs]
Mikey: Well, you know, Andrew, I would be more excited if the sneak peek is not just these initial clips but more stuff...
Andrew: Like more to come.
Mikey: ...so that way, it's really not just like, "I'll go rent the movie for a day and see all the extra clips," but "I want to make sure that I buy and I own it so that way I can see..."
Andrew: That's a good point!
Mikey: The more stuff to come! So I can see the new Quidditch costumes, so I can see the scenes or the interview with Dan talking about, you know...
Andrew: Mikey, you should be on their marketing team; that's a pretty good idea actually.
Mikey: I personally think I should just start being Assistant Editor and Editor for the Harry Potter films.
Mikey: As a fan that loves it, you know, that's what I do, Warner Bros. Wink wink, nudge nudge, ha ha ha.
Andrew: They don't listen.
Mikey: I know. Well, who knows?
Andrew: Actually, no. I think David Heyman listens to the podcast.
Mikey: David, I do have a real - please, it's a dream of mine.
Andrew: I think he has. He said something once in an interview he did at the L.A. premiere that made me think he...
Mikey: No, no! He goes to MuggleNet, not MuggleCast.
Andrew: No, but he also said something about he listens to us all the time. But he wasn't - he was like, "I read and listen to you guys all the time." I think that's what he said. Something like that.
Micah: I think you're right, because when we were at Enlightening, Emerson was talking to the crowd about David Heyman and that interview that you guys did. And I think he was saying that we should all be nice to David Heyman because he listens to what we say.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Micah: Something like that.
Andrew: Yeah, we'll have to re-watch that interview. Anyway... [laughs]
Mikey: I like David Heyman.
Laura: Yeah, I like him, too. He's really nice.
Mikey: He's cool. I would just say, "Just so you know, I like you. I'm an editor."
Andrew: I hate to go off tangent one more time, but...
Mikey: Oh, wow!
Andrew: ...Laura, I just remembered this today - I completely forgot about it. You, Ben and I talked to him for a couple of minutes at the after party...
Laura: Yeah. Oh, that was so cool.
Andrew: ...one on one. And that was really nice...
Andrew: ...because he was very nice about talking with us. And we were just - we were sucking up to him. [laughs]
Andrew: But we were saying it's unbelievable this whole thing that you've been running for the past, god, eight years now.
Laura: Yeah, but he was genuinely nice, and he seemed really, really happy to be there.
Laura: So I was really happy to see that.
Andrew: Yeah. It was great actually talking to him. Great guy. But - okay, so anyway... [laughs] ...the Half-Blood Prince sneak peeks - hoping everyone saw these. It looks pretty good; it's nothing new. I mean, it's new but it's nothing out of the ordinary.
Andy: Nothing new new.
Andrew: Nothing new new, right. It's more of the same, you know. They're filming and Dan's on set... [laughs] ...and there's cameras around him. There was a very nice interview with Stuart Craig, Production Designer. That's it. There's an interview with him on the new set where he talks about the orphanage and how great it's going to be and how much effort they're putting into it. Then there's another clip with the interview with the Costume Designer, and she goes over the brand new Quidditch costumes - or the Quidditch cloaks. And they have new padding and they have these new helmets.
Andrew: Yeah, I was talking to Andy about this last night. They're not very good, are they, Andy? [laughs]
Andy: I don't know. I reckon they kind of look like fighter pilots or something.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah. And I think she said in that interview that they weren't sure yet if they were actually going to have them on while they were playing, right? Just for practice?
Andy: Yes, she said they were going to be for training or practice or something, but they didn't know if they would put them in the actual scene.
Andrew: I think that just shows that they're not too sure about them, either. [laughs] Maybe? And then - the new cloaks do look good, I think. And it's nice to see that they're updating the Quidditch outfits. They're putting some effort into it since they skipped out on Quidditch in Order of the Phoenix and Goblet of Fire? No, the Quidditch World Cup was in Goblet of Fire.
Andrew: So that's nice. And that's about it.
Mikey: You know what I would like to see? I would like to see them play Quidditch at the Burrow. You know how they do those, you know...
Andrew: Well, I mean...
Andy: Yeah, that would be sweet. I want to see them fly the tables around in the [unintelligible].
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]
Mikey: Yeah, there's a lot I would like to see that I never...
Andrew: Well, we all know that's...
Micah: When you get to work on the films, Mikey, then...
Mikey: Yeah. I'll make the special MuggleNet edition with all the stuff we want to see, and I'll sit there for years doing all the special effects myself.
Mikey: But, fans, I will do it if I get - no.
Andrew: So the DVD came out. It was just in England, not in Australia. Right, Andy?
Andy: Yeah, it's out here. We got it last Wednesday.
Andy Reviews the DVD
Andrew: Oh, it is. Oh! Oh, okay. Well, we could have a quick review here.
Andy: Which is the first time ever.
Andrew: So, what...?
Andy: I thought it was great. Lots of good special features, especially the one, "Trailing Tonks," which was behind the scenes. That was great, very funny.
Andrew: What's in that again?
Andy: It just follows - I think her name's Natalia Tena, who plays Tonks. It just follows her around the set doing random stuff: playing guitar, laughing at people.
Mikey: Having her nose changed. You know, her nose changes every once in a while.
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] That's pretty cool. How do all the menus and such work? Are they good?
Andy: The menus are great. Same guy narrates all the menus. The actual disc with the movie on it is really great. It's got the phone booth going to the Ministry. And the special features one has got the Black tapestry and all the special features on that, which looks really cool.
Andrew: Oh, okay.
Andy: Yeah, it's great. I've watched it a few times now.
Andrew: How are the deleted scenes?
Andy: Pretty good. There's sort of two minutes of Trelawney eating and then there's a few other good ones.
Micah: Wait. Not drinking, eating?
Andrew: Yeah. Come on, we found this out a while ago!
Micah: No, eating. I was making a joke saying she is an alcoholic, but forget it.
Andrew: Oh, okay.
Mikey: She just likes to have a drink when times are getting hard.
Andrew: Yeah. So, all right, well, that's cool. As for us in America, we still have to wait until December 11th, so it's a little under a month now. And the thing is, here's what happened: this Half Blood Prince sneak peak came out, people got their DVDs, they were able to watch it. Then people figured out how to download it and get it on YouTube. You can download the flash file, convert that to something YouTube will take, put it up. So it gets up on YouTube, all the fan sites post it, and then WB starts taking them down. And the thing that got me about this, and I said it to Micah, was, all right, WB's asking for this. When you're releasing a film in Australia and England a month before you do in America, the American fans are going to go nuts, and they're going to want to see it online so people put it online, put these sneak peaks online, at least. And, you know, WB keeps trying to take them down, but it's like, why not just release the movie at the same time and then you wouldn't have to worry about that?
Laura: Haven't they typically released all the DVDs at the same time in the past?
Andrew: Yeah. Well, the U.S. certainly hasn't had to wait a month. [laughs]
Andy: We usually get it about three months later, so this is...
Andy: ...a Christmas miracle.
[Andy and Micah laugh]
Andrew: Yeah, are they trying to be fair? Like...
Andrew: Australia complained and they're like, "Okay, you get it a month before America now."
Laura: Well, I know, at the very least, the U.S. and the U.K. got them around the same time. Like within a few days of each other.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Micah: Well, what's interesting is that it's not just the U.K. and Australia, it's other countries that the DVD has been released in as well. It seems like...
Andy: South America got it before all of us.
Andy: They got it in, like, the end of October.
Andrew: I wonder if it has to do with the Christmas season. Like, they want to get it closer to Christmas to...
Micah: Oh, yeah.
Andrew: ...put it under more trees or something?
Micah: Could be true.
Laura: If they sell it in November, it's going to be under plenty of trees. I mean...
Laura: ...that's when they start putting out all your Christmas stuff.
Andrew: But I'm just thinking - well, I guess it shouldn't matter to WB, really, whether it goes underneath a Christmas tree or not as long as you're still buying it.
Andy: It's just all this hype.
Andrew: It's all the hype, you said?
Andy: Yeah, all hype and publicity and...
Andrew: Oh. Yeah...
Andy: ...how they can sell the most DVDs.
Harry Potter versus Hairspray
Andrew: Yeah, maybe. Well, I mean, one DVD that's coming out soon - of course I know this: Hairspray comes out Tuesday.
Andrew: Now... [laughs]
Mikey: I know Hairspray comes out Tuesday, buddy, I've been watching for that to come out, too.
Andrew: I'll be buying the Shake and Shimmy edition, thank you very much. I just wonder, do they think like, "Oh, there's already a big DVD coming out; we want publicity, we want a week to ourselves where we have all the publicity we want." Or is it something else?
Laura: What other...
Andrew: Because Hairspray is a huge movie release. I mean, it was huge over the summer...
Andrew: ...I'm sure it's going to be...
Laura: But did it outsell Harry Potter even...
Andrew: No, I don't think so.
Laura: Was it even close? I mean, I love Hairspray, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they would be in any sort of competition.
Andrew: I'm just grasping at straws. I mean, I can't think of any other, besides the holiday thing.
Andy: But I don't think Hairspray and Harry Potter would be in that much competition.
Mikey: Oh yeah they are.
Andrew: I have to say, I think they appeal to the same people. [laughs]
Laura: Yeah, that's what I was going to say, but I don't think a Harry Potter fan and a Hairspray fan would go out and buy one DVD over the other. They're going to buy both.
Mikey: Well, you know what? If it came down between one DVD or the other to me...
Andrew: I'd buy Hairspray.
Andrew: No, I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious.
Mikey: That's what I'm thinking is going to happen. You have to go with your Harry Potter friend. So Andrew could buy Hairspray for us and we could watch it, and then I'll buy the Harry Potter.
Andrew: [laughs] But I just think...
Mikey: And we'll probably watch Hairspray first.
Andrew: Also, feature-set wise, I think Hairspray's got - Hairspray's got like a four hour documentary on the making of it.
Mikey: [laughs] Are you...?
Andrew: They went all out on the feature. But, anyway... [laughs]
Andy: If you'd like the sheet music from Hairspray, go over to HarryPotterFanZone.
Mikey: You know what's funny though? I think I actually saw Hairspray more than Order of the Phoenix in theaters.
Andrew: Oh, me too!
Laura: So did I. [laughs]
Andrew: I've seen it five times now.
Mikey: No, no, well, it's because I saw an advanced screening of Hairspray, and then I saw it again, and then I think I saw it twice with Andrew at one point, and...
Andrew: You saw it once with us. [laughs]
Mikey: I don't know. I saw Hairspray a ridiculous amount of times. I went with my mom. I'm like, "Why am I seeing this movie so many times?" But I do have a fondness for musicals, so...
Mikey: ...I'm waiting for Harry Potter: The Musical. Really, you know...
Andrew: Yeah, it's coming out...
Mikey: It's like the mysterious ticking noise.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Mikey: [singing] Snape, Snape, Severus. And then, you know, Dumbledore!
Mikey: I love Dumbledore. He's my favorite. You know what? Dumbledore coming out of the closet, that's him going, "Dumbledore!" That's him!
Mikey: I love it!
Andrew and Mikey: Oh...
Andrew: God. You know...
Mikey: Why do I keep talking? Let's continue on.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay. I'm wondering the same thing. Hey, I guess there's nothing else to say. Maybe we'll try to get something out of WB.
Andrew: You know, to answer why.
Micah: The only other DVD that is coming out that week - or that date actually - is The Bourne Ultimatum.
Andrew: That's definitely not competition... [laughs] ...I don't think.
Mikey: You sure? They're both actions. They're both action movies.
Andrew: Yeah. But it's a different audience still.
Andrew: [sighs] Okay, well, I guess we'll see what happens there. Wow, we managed to take up forty-five minutes with news talk. Good work, guys. [laughs] That's a new record, I think.
Announcement: MuggleCast Wall of Fame
Andrew: All right, let's get on to some announcements now. There's actually a few this week for once, and they're all new. First of all, earlier this week - let me set this up - there was an article in my school newspaper about what I do with MuggleCast. And that was a few days - the article came out a few days after our Episode 119, which we'll get to in a minute. It wasn't exactly our best show. Our best live show.
Andrew: Especially in the call-in parts. So, I was, like, oh crap. All these people are going to go and look, and see this episode and think I suck. [laughs] So, everyone would have noticed that news post I made on the - on MuggleCast, saying, "New to the show? If you're a new listener and looking for a few good episodes, check these out." So, I sort of hope that people looked at that. And then I came up with the idea for the MuggleCast Wall of Fame, which is our, sort of, showcase showcasing the best episodes we've done. So we came up with this page. Mikey contributed with an episode or two. And then I also added at the bottom, if anyone has an episode that really stands out to them in terms of quality - just a really good quality episode - e-mail it in to MCWallofFame at gmail dot com. MCWallofFame, all one word, at gmail dot com. And I'm sort of going to take a poll and see which episodes get the most votes. And then we'll add them on there. And that will just be a nice little archive of our best shows, and it'll be a nice thing we go back and look at. Especially if you're a new listener and you're looking for some good episodes, you know, we can recommend those to you. So there's a banner at MuggleCast.com for those. We encourage you to check those out. Also, anyone here got a Zune?
Announcement: MuggleCast on Zune
Mikey: I do!
Andrew: Mikey, you do?
Mikey: No, I don't.
Andrew: Do you get it off Woot?
Mikey: No. I'm lying.
Mikey: Actually, about the Zune, some of you know I work for Apple and, in fact, a couple of MuggleCast listeners... [laughs] ...came into the Apple store when I was working the other day, and...
Mikey: Yeah. They're in the Leopard release. It's kind of cool seeing them there. I was hanging out there working, not really doing anything at Apple. But they're like, "Are you Mikey from MuggleCast?" And I'm, like, yeah. Like...
Mikey: ...you know, I'm at work...
Mikey: ...you know.
Mikey: And they came up, and - so I took a picture with them. That was kind of cute.
Andrew: Aww, cute.
Mikey: Yeah. You know. It was cool. They come into my work.
Andrew: I don't know how that worked. You were, like, speaking...
Andrew and Mikey: ...of Zunes...
Andrew: Dot, dot, dot. [laughs]
Mikey: I work for Apple. The iPod versus Zune.
Andrew: Uh-huh. So for the ten people who have a Zune...
Andrew: And Microsoft started the - basically, the Zune equivalent of iTunes. And you can go on to their marketplace and you can subscribe to podcasts there now because Zune now supports podcasts. And MuggleCast is in there. So if you have a Zune and you want to subscribe to MuggleCast, make sure you have the latest Zune software update. And then there's a link right there at MuggleCast.com, underneath the big "On Air" button that takes you to the Zune marketplace to subscribe to MuggleCast. So I just thought I would let everyone know. Also, if you have any friends who like Harry Potter and who have a Zune, recommend that to them.
Announcement: Terminus Clear Up
Andrew: Also, real quick, I just want to say about Terminus. I just want to... [laughs] ...clear up what was said last week. I want to clear up that Terminus didn't actually say no to us or reject us. We just never approached them and they thought we didn't fit in with what they needed compared to other podcasts. I just want to clear that up because, apparently, some fans were saying to Terminus, "Oh, why did you say no to MuggleCast?" Actually, they never said no to us. They just didn't want us from the start. [pretends to sob] Umm... [laughs] ...we'll get to Muggle Mail. We'll focus on a lot of e-mails this week.
Muggle Mail: Age Limits on Broadway Shows
Laura: The first one comes from Brenna, aged 18, from San Diego, California. And she says:
"Some shows do have an age limit..."
And I believe this is in reference to Equus...
Andrew: The Broadway...
Laura: ...being on...
Laura: "...because of scary or inappropriate material. I know that the Broadway musical "Wicked" has a limit of six because it might be frightening to young kids. So I would think they wouldn't allow small children to see it, but who knows? Also, you guys need to stop worrying over..."
Andrew: No. Don't - don't include that.
Laura: Okay. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh, actually, go ahead. No, no, never mind. Go ahead.
Laura: Way to cut me off! Okay.
Andrew: No, sorry. [laughs]
Laura: All right.
"Also, you guys need to stop worrying over Terminus and start planning a trip to San Diego, California for ComicCon in 2008 in July."
Andrew: You know, it's not a bad idea, because MuggleNet was invited to ComicCon last year, and there's this huge miscommunication where ComicCon was even advertising that MuggleNet...
Andrew: ...was going to be...
Laura: ...that's right.
Andrew: ...at a certain venue. And, like...
Laura: Didn't a bunch of people...
Andrew: ...people showed up.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: And nothing ever - nobody was there. [laughs] Emerson and - I think it was supposed to be like Emerson and Ben or something, and they were probably on the other side of the country... [laughs] ...I think. So that didn't work out very well. But yeah, that's not a bad idea. ComicCon's a big event and they have some Harry Potter stuff there, so who knows?
Mikey: ComicCon's fun.
Muggle Mail: Quack Pack
Andrew: Next e-mail comes from Abby, 13, of New Jersey. She writes:
"While I was listening to Episode 119 I was thinking that you could make a Quack Pack from the funny quack. Love the show. Quack. Abby."
You know that's a better idea than Cucumber Pack. Let's do Quack Pack.
Laura: What - what...
Andrew: You were saying?
Laura: What was Cucumber Pack?
Andrew: It was going to be the sequel to Pickle Pack.
Laura: Why do we need a sequel to Pickle Pack?
Andrew: It was just a joke! It was like the next...
Laura: Okay, I was about to, like, "Oh God, another year of Blickles. Ohh."
Andrew: No, because now they would be called Clickles because...
Mikey: Sequels are better than the original? No, no.
Andrew: Yeah - not always. [laughs]
Mikey: Actually, almost never, but...
Muggle Mail: The Writers' Strike
Andrew: Another e-mail. I think Mikey should be able to address this one. This comes from Bethany, 32, of Goshen, Indiana. She writes:
"Is Steve Kloves a member of the Writers' Guild? If so, is that strike affecting the shooting of 'Half-Blood Prince'? Also, if Kloves will also be the screenwriter on 'Deathly Hallows,' do you think this strike will push back that movie's pre-production since he probably starts working on the script long before they start prepping each movie?"
Andrew: Mikey, is - I thought I heard somewhere that the Writers' Guild will - the strike will eventually affect movie writers. Is that true?
Mikey: Oh, it definitely will. So right now the Writers' Guild, they're on strike - and actually I have quite a few friends that are on strike and it's - I find it kind of funny. I definitely respect what they're doing, but I kind of find it funny because these are creative types that sit on their computer and write and drink coffee and they're not - they're not the striker-type people, right?
Andrew: Right. [laughs]
Mikey: And they're like, "Dude, I have to go picket," and I'm like, "You're really going to go down in front of the studio and stand there with your little sign and march across it?" And he was like, "Yeah, I have to. I mean, I have to." So what the Guild is really affecting right now with the strike, is it's definitely affecting TV shows. Is Kloves an American or is he...
Mikey: If he's not American then he's not part of the Writers' Guild.
Andrew: Oh okay.
Mikey: Because if he's - because I know it's not affecting Canadian productions. A lot of productions have jumped up there recently, and U.K. is not affected by this, but this is definitely affecting just the U.S. writers. It can affect movies because sequels and stuff like that...
Andrew: Actually wait, wait, wait. I've got to cut you off.
Micah: I'm pretty sure Steve Kloves is American.
Andrew: Yeah, he is.
Andy: I thought he was American.
Mikey: It definitely - it's definitely going to affect him. Probably not so much for Deathly Hallows because I would be surprised if he even started production for that script - started working on that until mid of 2008 even.
Andrew: Yeah, that's true.
Mikey: Because the movie won't be released till end of 2008 of Half-Blood Prince, so I would be very surprised if he even started, you know, while the strike is on, unless it lasts a very long time. The longest strike lasted six weeks I believe? From the Writers' Guild...
Andrew: I think it was 22.
Mikey: Was it 22?
Andrew: I think it was 22. Yeah.
Mikey: Six weeks - I remember the last one was a very long time and...
Andrew: Did you say six months?
Andrew: Oh, I thought you said six weeks.
Mikey: Oh, I may have said six weeks but I meant six months. But it lasted six months, and I definitely agree with what they're demanding, because right now this really is affecting more TV show writers, you know. I don't expect it to last, you know, more than six months, and I don't think it will affect Deathly Hallows too much.
Andrew: Well, there's your answer.
Mikey: But it could definitely affect the movie industry.
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