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[Show music begins]

Micah: Because it's the final episode of the year that was Harry Potter, this is MuggleCast Episode 126 for December 31st, 2007.

[Show music continues to play]

Andrew: Well, boys. We did it. We made it through 2007 all in one piece.

Eric: So far. So far, yeah.

Andrew: Ah, well. No, I mean...

Jamie: When is this being recorded?

Andrew: It's the end of the year. It's December 30st, or 31st. We are at the end of the year.

Jamie: You can't judge those small amounts of time, Andrew. You know, anything can happen in a day, in half a day, in a minute, in an hour.

Andrew: That's true.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I think you've made that speech before.

Eric: Wait, wait, wait, Jamie. I'm just going to - wait. I'm glad that you're back. I'm so glad that you are back that I'm going to contradict you.

Jamie: Well, thank you, Eric. That's very nice.

Eric: Rome. Rome was not built in a day.

Jamie: Rome was not built in a day, but that just goes to show how awesome Rome is, where as stuff can be built in a day. You can still build a lot, but you can't build...

Eric: You were saying, though, anything can happen in a day and I agree with you and I agree with you telling Andrew that except if we wanted to build Rome, we couldn't do that in the day we have left in 2007, but anyway good to have you back.

Micah: Yeah, Jamie.

Jamie: Thank you.

Micah: I'm just happy you're back. I'm not going to pick a fight with you.

Jamie: Thank you, Micah.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Jamie: You'd be sorry if you did. I can promise you, Micah.

Micah: See? I know better. That's the thing, dude.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: That's the point of the day.

Jamie: Eric, you need to wise up. You got to wise up.

Eric: Come on, man. I love you. It's great you're back. I'm so happy.

Andrew: It's a good show to be back on because we are going to take a look back at the big events of this past year. It's been one of the best years in awhile, I would say.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I would say the best year ever.

Matt: Since last year, at least.

Andrew: Ever. What, Matt?

Matt: It's the best year since last year, at least.

Andrew: Well, yeah. That's true, but I would go so far as to say ever. And also we are going to place a WB - we're going to place a WB. No, we're going to place a call to WB to get results about my DVD because I am very angry!

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: We have a full show today.

Jamie: You mean we are actually calling them?

Andrew: You bet, Jamie. I get results, man. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matt Britton.

[Show music continues to play]


Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is in the MuggleCast News Center with the final news stories for 2007. Hey, Micah.

Micah: All right, thanks Andrew. 2007 was by far the biggest year for Harry Potter fans that we have seen. It was filled with book releases, movie releases, theme park announcements, an open book tour, and much more.

Check out for the fourth annual Year in Review, highlighting the biggest and most interesting stories of 2007.

Cleaning up on the year-end awards, USA Today recently named J.K. Rowling's final novel in the Harry Potter series Book of the Year. A huge factor was due in part to the record-breaking numbers in sales made by Deathly Hallows. 11.5 million copies were sold within the first ten days of the July release. But the decision came down to something much deeper:

"Hallows is the book of the year because Rowling gave her story an ending that was as graceful, unpredictable and satisfying as the series itself. She reaffirmed that magic can exist when someone opens a great book and enters a world created from words on paper. She made us believe that the imagination, like her own little wizard, now all grown up still lives."

And finally, the documentary J.K. Rowling: A Year in the Life that aired yesterday on ITV in the England is now available on the station's website. The description reads:

"With unprecedented access, cameras follow author J.K. Rowling in the year that she completes her publishing phenomenon, the Harry Potter series. The programme captures her return to the sources of her inspiration, and she reveals what she is planning on writing next."

That is all the news for this December 31st, 2007 edition of MuggleCast. Happy New Year. See you all in 2008. Back to the show.

Andrew: All right, thank you Micah.

Micah: You're welcome.

News Discussion: Casting Thoughts

Andrew: We're not going to discuss any news this week because we are recording this a little earlier than normal. But Micah and Eric, I guess you guys wanted to get your input in on a couple news stories from last week. First of all, those casting announcements. I mean, basically on last week's show we said that it wasn't really that big of a deal because we don't know any of these actors.

Eric: Yeah, but we do know - by the casting, you're talking the casting of Cormac McLaggen...

Andrew: Yes.

Eric: Blaise Zabini...

Andrew: Yes, yes, yes.

Eric: Romilda Vane, Katie Bell, Leanne, and Marcus Belby. I'm just glad they're in the movie in some shape or form.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: You know? But yeah, that's about it.

Micah: Yeah, I mean I was just curious is this the final release as far as characters are concerned, or are we going to be hearing more in the future?

Andrew: No, I don't think so. I would wager that there's more to come still.

Micah: Okay.

Matt: They haven't even casted Scrimgeour, have they?

Micah: No.

Eric: Oooh, yeah.

Andrew: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah.

Eric: Well, they may have, but we don't know about it. But, it sounds like they've got the Slug Club. So...

Andrew: Wait a second, wait a second. Wait, are we sure about that? No, they have cast them, haven't they?

Matt: They have?

Eric: Wait, no I think you're right.

Jamie: Who, Scrimgeour?

Andrew: Yeah, I think Dark Horizons made that announcement, didn't they?

[Eric laughs]

Jamie: Oh, that's cool.

Eric: Hang on, - I'm going on.

Andrew: Oh, wait. Oh, wait. No, I'm getting that confused with Slughorn. [laughs]

Jamie: Oh yes, he's a very good actor, Jim Broadbent.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Oh, is he? Have you seen him?

Jamie: Yeah, he's in an episode - In fact, Phase Two, we used to talk about it. I just rented an episode of Only Fools and Horses, which is a British sitcom from quite a while ago, that stars Jim Broadbent as a character in it. And it was very, very good. So, he's Slughorn. Very, very good.

Andrew: Awesome.

Jamie: But it's like - oh, what was I going to say? Completely forgotten what I was going to say. Go on.

Eric: Okay...

Jamie: Talk amongst yourselves for a second.

Eric: I'm not finding it on IMDB.

Jamie: Sorry, sorry.

Eric: I couldn't find out who was Scrimgeour.

Andrew: All right. Well yeah, we cleared that up. My bad, Matt. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: And what about the Gaunts?

Jamie: Oh, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I mean e haven't heard anything about them at all.

Eric: You know, I'm very worried about that.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. It seems like something that could very well be cut, because...

Jamie: I don't - no, that's pretty central to the story, though. The Gaunts is an important sort of helping element that gets them into...

Eric: And it's Voldemort's family.

Jamie: ...into the whole Voldemort's family and back story, you know?

Eric: Yeah, that's his aunt and uncle, you know?

Matt: They haven't really cut anything that was central to the story, yet, in the movies anyway.

Andrew: Well, yeah.

Eric: No, you're right. But it just worries me because we're seeing all these clips from the school side of things, that it's just - I mean, maybe they're just not revealing anything about Voldemort.

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: But, I just - like I can't wait to see the - not just the orphanage scene. We do kind of have...

Jamie: That's going to be fun, yeah.

Eric: ...confirmation they're doing the orphanage scene, which is going to be amazing.

Matt: Oh yeah, definitely.

Eric: But just about Dumbledore and Harry is what I'm more interested in. But the director had said he was really going to focus on the relationships as a big part of the movie. And I'm worried that that will downplay any Gaunt-ness.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: But yeah, that's probably true. But, it's just - I don't know, perhaps it's just a personal thing, I just really, really like that storyline. The whole Gaunt storyline and the ring.

Eric: Same.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Same.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Right.

Andrew: Well, I guess we'll see. I mean, I guess they probably haven't been cast yet because maybe filming for that scene won't occur until, say, mid-spring or even later; maybe late-spring.

Eric: Maybe. That reminds me, when I thought of Merope Gaunt as a character, I thought Helena Bonham Carter should play her. But then they cast her as Bellatrix.

Jamie: Ah, but then they cast her as Bellatrix. Very interesting.

Eric: But I - wouldn't she make a Merope Gaunt? Like a good...

Jamie: She would. You're thinking along the lines, as well.

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: Along the same lines as them. You could - I see a sparkling career ahead of you, now.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Really?

Jamie: I have a philosophical question for you all, though. If a Harry Potter cast member is cast but nobody hears about it, has he really been cast? It's like the tree thing. It's like, if a tree falls in the forest...

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: ...and no one's there to hear it, does it cause a sound?

Andrew: Yes, absolutely.

Jamie: But has he, though? Because, if the public who bring in the money haven't heard about it, what difference does it make? If it's just being, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: I don't believe that.

Andrew: I guess so.

Jamie: No, no. It's a terrible question.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: It's a terrible question. But...

Eric: If the paperwork has been filed, Jamie, and they know that they've been cast, Jo Rowling knows that...

Jamie: See, that's an important thing, yes.

Eric: Yeah

Micah: Well, I thought casting was complete, though, wasn't it? I mean they just maybe haven't made the announcements yet.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Well, maybe they need, maybe they need - sorry, maybe they need - what was I saying? Forget it.

Andrew: Well they probably want to spread the casting out to create more press.

Micah: Right.

News Discussion: J.K. Rowling and TIME's Person of the Year

Andrew: But let's keep moving on here. J.K. Rowling was named the second runner-up in TIME's "Person of the Year." What was you guys' reaction to this?

Eric: Hmm, what do you think, Micah?

Micah: I just don't really get Vladimir Putin, I guess. I mean, I'm sorry, but...

Eric: Who? Who?

Micah: ...this whole thing goes back to being TIME's "Person of the Year." What did Vladimir Putin do this year that automatically qualifies him to receive this award? And I'm not saying that over the course of his career he hasn't done things, opening up Russia, but this one was a little bit odd for me, especially when you look at the first runner-up in Al Gore, who probably has done a little bit more. But there's a Harry Potter podcast. J.K. Rowling - her series came to an end, everything that she's done, not just in literature, but in charity as well.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Seemed to me this would have been the perfect year to give it to her, and I just look back over some of the people who have been named TIME's "Person of the Year," over the last couple years, and it's kind of a joke.

Andrew: Well, you were it last year, so I wouldn't be complaining.

Micah: That's a joke, in and of itself. But I mean, 2001, Rudy Giuliani, to me was the only time in recent history that they actually got something right.

Andrew: Yeah, well, I mean, it's very opinionated, and I think anyone who wasn't a Harry Potter fan would look at that and say, "J.K. Rowling got that? I mean, she wrote a book, but is it that big a deal?"

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Eric: I mean even seven books is like...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Well, obviously her impact is so much more far-reaching than just "she wrote a book."

Eric: Yeah, it's true, and the thing with Russia - I mean, well, TIME is more political, I think. And Al Gore's done obviously a lot with global warming. He'll have his time to come. I just think number three is a good feat for Jo. I mean, if the Harry Potter series is not going to get recognized with number one, I'm glad it's number three.

Andrew: I agree.

Micah: She's annually up, though, I mean, right?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: She's been nominated for this many times before.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: So, it's a victory. It's a victory.

Andrews Handles DVD Issues

Andrew: Yeah. Let's move on now. Last week I told everyone that I was having, well, two weeks ago, I was saying that I was having problems with my DVD, and of course a few people e-mailed in. And of course I'm very frustrated from this, and, you know, this is absolutely unacceptable. When I purchase a Harry Potter DVD, I expect nothing but pristine, crystal-clear quality. So...

Eric: Even though we're used to with the crap features.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Well, besides that. Besides that. So we're going to call the thing now, WB, and I'm going to get some results here. I'm linking out of this to conference.

Eric: But first of all, Andrew, have you determined whether or not you're the only one in the entire world.

Andrew: It's too late, I'm calling. Yeah, dude, didn't you listen to me? I said that we've gotten e-mails from people saying that they were having the problem.

[Phone ringing]

WB: Thank you for calling Warner Home Video. How may I help you?

Andrew: Hi, I called earlier, and I got disconnected. I'm having a problem with my Order of the Phoenix DVD. The quality is messed up in some places.

WB: What is your name?

Andrew: Andrew Sims.

WB: S-I-M-S, or...

Andrew: Yes. S-I-M-S.

WB: "S" as in Sam?

Andrew: Yes.

WB: And your address?

[Beeped out]

Andrew: Medford, New Jersey.

[Beeped out]

WB: Okay, and a phone number for you?

Andrew: 609 [Beeped out]

WB: Okay, and what was the video you purchased?

Andrew: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. It was the two-disc Special Edition.

WB: Two-disc?

Andrew: Yes.

WB: And one of the discs does not work?

Andrew: Yeah, well, the quality on the first disc is pretty bad. It's grainy in the first half-hour of it, and in the last half-hour it's also very grainy.

WB: All right, well we'll just forward this on to Warner.

Andrew: Okay.

WB: And they will take care of it. If they have any questions, they'll call you.

Andrew: Okay. Great. Now, if they don't have questions, are they just going to mail me a new copy, or...

WB: That's correct, yes.

Andrew: Okay. All right, great. Thank you very much.

WB: You're welcome, sir. Goodbye.

Andrew: Bye. Wonderful. A free copy! I mean, I could have just lied to them, and get a free copy.

Micah: What a pleasant woman to deal with.

Andrew: What?

Micah: What a pleasant woman to deal with.

Andrew: She was very nice.

Matt: She sounded like she smoked ten packs a day.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: You know who - no, honestly, Monsters, Inc., the boss, the boss in Monsters Inc.

Matt: [imitating the character's voice] "Isn't that nice."

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Eric: [imitating the character's voice] "Mike Wazowski, you still haven't filed you paper work."

Andrew: If you are having a similar problem with getting yours to work, or any problem with your DVD what you can do is you can call this number that I just called. The number is 1-866-488-4640 and it's that easy. They'll just forward you one. Please, please, please do not call them unless you really have a problem with your DVD, okay? Don't call them and be like, "Hey, you were on MuggleCast, ha, ha, ha.: Don't be stupid, please.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: We're all adults here. That number is for people who are having a problem with the Order of the Phoenix DVD. So...

Eric: And please make it clear that it plays fine, it's not a defective disk, it's if anything, it's the quality of the film. Andrew, your film plays, it's just the first 30 minutes are grainy.

Andrew: Right. Well it's the first 15 and the last thirty, but I said the first 30 to make it sound even worse. So...

Eric: Well, yeah not definition. Anyways she probably wrote it down. So....

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah. So when they give you the replacement disk in like, ten weeks...

Andrew: I'm going to sell it on eBay.

Eric: No, don't sell it on eBay.

Andrew: I'm just kidding. I'm going to use it.

Eric: Check it out; see if it has the same issue.

Andrew: Better not.

Eric: Geez.

Year in Review: Theme Park

Andrew: Well, let's move on now. This is our New Year's show so we're going to do a Year in Review. We're going to cover the top ten moments, happenings, things, of the past year.

Eric: Wooo!

Andrew: This says it's in chronological order, but the theme park announcement didn't come before Movie 5 and Book 7 announcement.

Eric: Well the Book 7 announcement was supposed to be when we found out that we were going to have the summer release, like the summer to remember.

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Eric: So, I did that in a conjunction thing.

Andrew: All right, so one of the biggest announcements this summer was the idea of, well was the announcement of a Harry Potter theme park in Universal Studios. Now this had been rumored for a very long time, and rightly so I guess because the rumors came true, and I guess there was a lot of talk going around within Universal. Even Disney, because Warner Brothers were in negotiations with Disney, but that didn't work out, either. So, what do you guys - I mean, a year ago I don't think we ever would have imagined this theme park. It really did seem surreal, didn't it?

Micah: Wooo.

Eric: It gives us something to look forward to, I think.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: It seemed completely doable, but it just seemed like no one wanted to do it.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: But give our updated information, that they're doing Holidays at Hogwarts, what do you guys think about that, now?

Andrew: I think it's - yeah.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah, I think it's a nice way to sell the park. And compete with Disney.

Micah: Right.

Eric: Yeah. I can't wait to ride the Quaffler. I think that's going to be awesome.

Andrew: You think that exists?

Eric: I think that's going to exist. It's going to be their top ride, the Quaffler.

Jamie: The Quaffler?

Eric: Well, you name their top ride, Jamie.

Jamie: No, no, I wasn't - I wasn't saying anything.

Eric: I know, I know, I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm just trying to be - I'm trying to think of good ride names because, yeah.

Jamie: It's going to be the Triwizard Wizzer. There you go.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: The Triwizard Wizzer?

Andrew: [laughs] Honestly, I think there's going to be a ride on the Ford Angela. Angelia.

Jamie: [laughs] Angela?

[Eric and Matt laugh]

Jamie: How long has she been doing that job Andrew? She just begin?

Andrew: Yeah, whatever.

[Matt laughs]

Eric: The Ford Angela.

Andrew: The Ford Angelia. It's going to be on the Ford Angelia.

Matt: Geez.

Andrew: Just because I think that's - it would sort of be...

Jamie: They're treated so badly there, they just are. They just work, work, work.

[Eric laughs]

Jamie: Poor Angela.

Andrew: All right, we get it!

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I'm retarded.

Eric: Our hearts go out to Ford Angela. No, see, I had Rollercoaster Tycoon. You guys played that game, you had that obviously. Right?

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, and I tried to make a Hogwarts park once, so I have all these recycled ride names that I've been trying to sneak into the show ever since we first heard about the theme park.

Andrew: Oh.

Eric: And the Quaffler was one of them. So...

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Micah: Very funny.

Andrew: That's clever.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Anyway, but yeah, I would definitely say it was all in our wildest dreams, but now it looks like it's coming true. And this is one of those things when people come up to you and ask, "Oh come on Harry Potter is dead, there's nothing coming anymore." You can be, like, "Well, we've got two movies, you've got a theme park."

Jamie: Oh yeah.

Andrew: And then they go, "Wow theme park. Hmmm, geez, sorry, my bad."

[Matt laughs]

Eric: Yeah it's not like House, MD would have its own theme park. Honestly.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: The OC.

Andrew: Yeah. This is going to be the first book that has its own theme park.

Eric: Is it? No, it's not. Surely not.

Andrew: Well, I'm just grabbing at straws.

Jamie: Right.

Eric: It's going to be.

Matt: Well, pretty much every ride in Disneyland is based off a book, anyway.

Eric: That's true.

Andrew: No, it's based off a movie.

[Eric laughs]

Matt: [laughs] Okay, Andrew.

Andrew: No, seriously.

Eric: And all these old Disney movies weren't books first.

Jamie: You feel strongly about that.

Andrew: Well no, I mean, if you - there's no Lord of the Rings theme park.

Jamie: No, but it's different. The permanence of Harry Potter, they've seen it, it is different and they've seen it, and it's kind of a different generation because we read it and then our children read it, and older people read it as well. I know it's kind of the same with Lord of the Rings, but not to the same extent.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: I agree.

Jamie: You know?

Andrew: I guess that's true because Harry Potter is a movie anyways now, so and heck, all the designs are coming from the movie itself.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: I mean they have Stewart Craig working very closely with them, helping them design all the areas.

Eric: So, I think it'll be good.

Matt: Well, yeah.

Eric: I just, what I don't want for it to be is a couple of shops that are constantly there all year round.

Andrew: It better not be.

Eric: Do you know what I'm saying? Because like at Holidays at Hogwarts they can always have the pumpkins flying and, or do you think they'll try and attempt hovering candles and stuff like that? Like for the Great Hall? Because that would be awesome.

Andrew: That would be cool. I don't know, though. It better be good though. That's all I know. I mean, the expectations are so, I think, are so high on this theme park now. There's no way this thing can be small. There's no way this can be lacking in any sort of way, shape, or form.

Micah: No. I think...

Andrew: You know us. We're going to be very critical of it.

Micah: Part of it now...

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: that Warner Brothers, I think, what they weren't able to cover in the movies they have to make up for in this theme park.

Eric: Why?

Jamie: Yeah, that's so true.

Micah: Because the fan is going to be much more critical of the theme park than they are of the movie. I mean, we're already very critical of the movies, but you're looking at the theme park and they have the ability to include so much more in this. Every little detail.

Eric: Oh.

Matt: But is it even going to be that big?

Andrew: No, well that's the other thing. It's a theme park, but it's a world in a theme park. It's not, you know, it's no Disney World.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Eric: I think it should be bigger then. Even without seeing it, I think it should just be bigger.

Andrew: It should be bigger, but they want to get this done soon, too.

Eric: How many coasters are they going to have?

Andrew: Just one I think. There's not going to be that many rides.

Matt: No.

Eric: So, that's a bit depressing.

Matt: They can always expand later.

Eric: Yeah, they can. They can.

Matt: It's not like the first time they do it it's going to be set in stone. That's what it's going to look like.

Andrew: Right. Right.

Jamie: Yeah.

Eric: Set in Sorcerer's Stone for that matter.

Jamie: Yeah.

[Micah laughs]

Eric: What do you guys think is going to be the - no, speaking of what Micah was saying about the books and being able to use - they're obviously they're trying to cram things into two hour movies, and that's why stuffs not in the movies. What do you guys think, this is just my own wondering - for the stuffed toys for the squirt gun games. What do you think they'll be giving out?

Jamie: For the what? Sorry?

Eric: Surely not more Hedwigs.

Andrew: Oh.

Eric: You know, the squirt gun games and the prizes you win.

Jamie: No, they are Hedwigs, but it also comes with like a defibrillator that you can stick on the chest.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: That would be good.

Jamie: Sometimes it's work, sometimes it doesn't. Some children's lives ruined, some not. It just depends. Luck of the draw. Luck of the draw.

Matt: I'm really excited to see what kind of candy they make in Honeydukes; in that store.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Oh, oh, so good.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: They've already got a line of candy, The Bertie Botts.

Matt: Yeah, but I mean for a full store.

Eric: Oh yeah.

Matt: I seriously doubt it's just going to be regular candy.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: That's true.

Andrew: Yeah, I'm a little concerned that it's going to be commercialized a bit.

Jamie: It will, it will.

Andrew: But, I'm just thinking of walking through the gift shop, and it's going to be all the Harry Potter toys we've seen a million times before.

Eric: It should be totally new, totally new.

Andrew: Well, it should be, but their reasoning might be, "Well, we're creating a new theme park; we don't have to come up with new toys."

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: Well, who knows? By that time, all the movies will be out.

Andrew: Yeah, that's true.

Matt: Or, the last one will be waiting release.

Eric: Hmmm.

Andrew: Yeah. Could you imagine walking in there and all the books are for sale and all the complete book sets, complete DVD sets.

Eric: Well, that could take up enough of the - yeah, by the time they get through all the - yeah, I mean, that's enough stuff right there, just the books for a shop. It's a lot of space to fit it in.

Micah: Right. I think they'll try and keep certain shops authentic, but like, Andrew, I still think they're going to have shops where they'll have stuff similar to what you just said.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Where you have books and stuff we've seen a million times already.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Do you think it'll just be a big vender room?

Andrew: Basically.

Eric: Yeah, I'm worried about that too.

Andrew: I mean, that'll be a great place for us to hand out MuggleNet stickers.

Eric: You know? I only have like seven left. I handed out all of the other ones I had, and I got like a hundred from Emerson. I was like, "Dude, I need another stack."

[Everyone laughs]

Eric: He gives me this huge wad, and I was like, "Wow!" So, I'm down to a few.

Jamie: Do you know how we should advertise the site? We should - if there's every nuclear war, we should just put a load of stickers inside the bomb, and if they don't get vaporized they'll go everywhere on earth...

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: ...and everyone will turn into a fan.

Andrew: That's if they don't get vaporized.

Eric: Jamie, Jamie, that's a wonderful idea, a brilliant idea. Let's build a bomb and we'll make sure to put MuggleNet stickers in it.

Jamie: Should we do that?

Eric: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Andrew: That's a good thing to say on a podcast.

Jamie: Oh, is that bad?

Matt: Set a nuclear bomb on the world. Nah.

Jamie: [laughs] Well, you know. We're a happy podcast.

Eric: So that our stickers go everywhere. And anyone who's alive, anyone who isn't vaporized will see our stickers that haven't been vaporized and they'll know to go to

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: That's all I care about.

Jamie: It can be anywhere.

Micah: I mean, we bomb other countries for no reason all the time.

Jamie: A new version of I Am Legend, too.

Eric: I love that movie. Have you seen it Jamie?

Jamie: I haven't seen it, no.

Eric: Oh, man. It is so good.

Jamie: Well, that's cool.

Universal Contact

Andrew: You know, before I forget, I've been meaning to make this announcement or make this call on the show. If there is anyone in the Orlando that has a season pass or whatever to Universal, MuggleNet could really use a sort of reporter to go to Universal every few weeks and hit up a couple of rides in that area where they are building the Harry Potter theme park and take some pictures of the construction.

[Everyone chuckles]

Andrew: No, no, no! I'm dead serious.

Eric: But... Okay.

Andrew: Wait. Wait. Let me finish.

Eric: All right.

Andrew: has a correspondent who goes on this ferris wheel and takes pictures of the construction. Now, we could just as easily get a fan down in Orlando to do it.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Now, if you have that capability, e-mail andrew at staff at mugglenet dot com and we will work something out for you. That would be cool for us to become a nice little source for updates on the theme park.

Eric: If I was the theme park guy, I would cut the ferris wheel down just to stop people doing that. Oh, by the way. By volunteering, we are not - if somebody comes after you and your camera...

Andrew: Dude, nobody cares if you are taking pictures of the - that's not illegal or anything. You are just taking pictures.

Eric: All right, sorry. Yeah, just a fan.

Andrew: "Oh, you're taking pictures of the construction. Screw you."

Eric: Well, some of that stuff is somevery serious stuff.

Andrew: I guess. I guess. Yeah, that's true.

Jamie: Yeah.

Eric: Anyway. We are on just number one of our top ten list.

Andrew: Yeah. We've got to keep moving here. [laughs]

Jamie: Are we really? [laughs]

Year in Review: Release Dates for Book 7 and Movie 5

Andrew: The next big announcement that came early on in 2007 was the Book 7 release date which was July 21st, 2007. This surprised most of us, because even before we got this release date we were speculating that, "Wait a second, wait a second, there is no way it could be released in 2007." We spent shows going back and forth trying to figure this out.

Eric: Yeah, totally, totally. And then when we found out, we spent shows saying it was a bad idea.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: What do you guys think now? Did it really - did the success of the movie coming so close to the book, did it detract anything, would you have preferred otherwise afterwards, looking back?

Jamie: It is hard to say really...

Eric: You think?

Andrew: Well, in hind sight - sorry, Jamie.

Jamie: No, go on. Go on. I can't remember what I was going to say, really.

Andrew: In hind sight, I don't think it worked out bad at all. I mean it worked out great. It worked out great for the fansites, especially.

Eric: It was crazy.

Andrew: We had these tours, the podcasts, the Wizard Rock tours. There are tons of them, and then the Harry Potter convention, Prophecy, wrapped everything up. Overall, it wasn't as bad as we thought. I think - I don't know what we were so worried about. I think it was that it would be too busy and that it might affect sales, or the hype of the movie and book.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Sort of clashing them together, we thought could be a bad idea, but really it went by so fast. Nothing went wrong.

Eric: No.

Andrew: Not that we thought something would go wrong, but...

Eric: Right. It was just a really big chain of reactions, I think. I mean my first summer - that whole summer to remember for me started with the Book 7 event in London. So, with you guys - so I was a the end of it basically. I hadn't been in living in the states sort of to experience the whole build up of the movie and everything being released.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: So, I imagine that was pretty cool.

Andrew: Yeah. At this point, I couldn't imagine the book coming out in 2008.

Eric: Ummm...

Jamie: Yeah, I know. It would have been so different.

Eric: Yeah...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Well, do you think that it would have been less rushed? Did you feel that it was rushed?

Micah: No.

Andrew: No! Not at all!

Micah: No.

Eric: Then that is a dumb question to ask. Okay, cool.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: But I think it had to have been so that the book came out after the movie, not the other way around because I think...

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: ...wcould have done more damage to the movie if it had come out before.

Andrew: Definitely.

Jamie: Definitely, definitely.

Eric: I definitely agree with that.

Andrew: And the thing was that we had heard a while ago, before the announcement was made, it was - Jo would have made the July 7th, 2007, however, that felt too close around the London bombings. Jamie, was that July 7th?

Eric: That was the date.

Jamie: That was July 7th, yeah.

Andrew: So, it would have been a bad idea, and in that case the book would have come out before the movie, so it would have been interesting to see what would have happened.

Jamie: It would have been interesting to see how different it would be. Would the hype have still gone from one to ten with ten being a lot.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Or would it have been a huge hype, and then down a bit for the movie?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I think that the premieres would have been directly affected too, because those premieres were in late June and early July.

Eric: Hmmm, yeah.

Andrew: And that would have fallen right around the book release. That would have been extreme.

Eric: It would have been a big scheduling conflict really, effecting everybody, everywhere across the world.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: Perhaps in a parallel universe there is a world where sor oft that happened and we have other MuggleCasters debating what if the movie came out first on the podcast.

Andrew: Perhaps.

Micah: Well, the movie did come out first.

Eric: Sorry, didn't I say the book? No, I'm saying in that world they're debating about what would've happened if the movie came out first because for them the book came out first.

Micah: Oh, okay.

Matt: Ohhh.

Eric: See, philosophy was my major, so forgive me.

Micah: I got you. I got you.

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