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[Show music starts]

Micah: Because the Hog's Head at Universal Studios must have a goat, this is MuggleCast Episode 127 for January 14th, 2008.

[Show music continues to play]

Andrew: We took a break last week, but now we're back with a whole bunch of people in the panel here.

Jamie: When was the last time we had six?

Micah: Had what?

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: It's been too long, Jamie.

Jamie: Well, Micah, you keep ignoring my text, so I thought I had to ask on the show in stead of...

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: ...asking you privately.

Micah: E-mail. You have to e-mail.

Jamie: Oh, e-mail. Okay.

Matt: I love it how everyone thought the same thing, too.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: Micah does not accept VISA or MasterCard. He's an American Express.

Jamie: No, he does. He does.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: Stay off those 900 numbers.

Eric: And even then its one of those annoying ATMs you have to swipe it the right way and it's just really annoying.

Jamie: Yeah, vertically.

Andrew: And the point is this is a very big group.

Jamie: That is the main point.

Andrew: We have a lot of news to discuss and we have a Chapter-by-Chapter. We got a good show for everyone today. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matt Britton.

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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is in the MuggleCast News Center with the past week's top Harry Potter News Stories. Micah?

Micah: All right. Thanks, Andrew. In a press release Warner Brothers announced that their movies will be exclusively on Blu-Ray High Definition discs starting in May 2008. Currently all five Potter films are available in HD-DVD and Blu-Ray formats. All of WB's movies will continue to be released on standard DVD.

Two websites that follow Universal Studios developments have recently updated with new construction photos and information regarding the Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme park. First, Universal Ignited has three new pictures of construction on their site. While it doesn't show much we do see the progress in terms of land clearing is being made. Second, Screamscape has a YouTube video revealing two concept images we saw in the J.K. Rowling documentary. One is the Hogwarts Express on display for visitors. The other appears to be Hogsmeade or Diagon Alley. We'll continue to bring you updates as construction rolls along. As we reported back in August, the theme park is scheduled to open between December 2009 and June 2010.

A new interview with Helen McCrory, the actress who will play Narcissa Malfoy in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, has been published by The Independent where she discusses filming the highly anticipated movie.

Finally, a recent article from the Daily Mail claims crews working on the Half-Blood Prince have been told that the final film will be split. A film source said:

"There's so much to fit that the view is the last movie should be in two halves. There is a huge battle when Harry, played by Daniel Radcliffe, takes on Voldemort that needs to be done really well."

What's more, the Daily Mail claims that big name directors such as Steven Spielberg are being considered to direct Deathly Hallows. An update on this story came earlier today, as Empire Online is now quoting Warner Brothers as saying:

"No decision has been made, in part because no scripts yet exist. Steve cannot begin work on the Deathly Hallows script because of the U.S. Writer's strike."

We will keep you posted as news continues to surface on filming of the final Potter film.

That's all the news for this January 14th, 2008 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Andrew: All right, thanks Micah.

Micah: I actually stopped doing news in 2008, Andrew. I'm not doing that anymore.

Andrew: Well, why?

Micah: Well, I wasn't getting paid enough. So...

Matt: You weren't getting paid, period.

Andrew: But the news is an integral part of the show. It's what defines Harry Potter podcasting.

Micah: No, actually we couldn't pay the bills in the News Center. So they had to turn off the recording.

Eric: They closed the dungeon down?

Andrew: They had to shut your MacBook?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] Okay.

Micah: I'm just kidding.

Jamie: Oh really?

Eric: The dungeon was condemned.

Jamie: I thought that actually happened.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, we thought you were serious after we just heard the news. But [laughs] thank you, Micah.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

News Discussion: J.K. Rowling Documentary

Andrew: Yeah, so we're going to cover some news from the last two weeks actually. I lied when I intro-ed Micah. First up, I think one of the biggest stories of the past two weeks - and I think it deserves a little more credit than it's been getting lately in the press...

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: ...because it was a very great documentary. It was the J.K. Rowling...A Year in the Life documentary. And it was produced by ITV and they followed J.K. Rowling through her final year in writing Harry Potter, and it led up to the release of the final book. What did you guys think of this? It was really great, wasn't it?

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, I really liked it. I think the problem with documentaries like this is - And I guess what worried me about it when I heard that they were doing it was that it kind of has the potential to be schmultzy, you know?

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah.

Laura: But it really wasn't. It was really...

Micah: Laura, I never knew you were Jewish.

Matt: What?

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Thanks, Micah. I'm not. But anyway, it's...

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: To borrow a Jewish term.

Laura: Yeah. I also...

Matt: What does "schmultzy" mean?

Eric: Schmaltzy. What's "schmultzy" mean? I'm not - I'm sorry, I'm unfamiliar.

Laura: Like...

Andrew: I'm not aware, either.

Laura: Like, kind of, you know...

Matt: You call these bagels?

Laura: Almost obnoxious. Like, over-done. You know?

Andrew: Oh, I get it.

Eric: Oh.

Matt: Why didn't you just say over-done?

Laura: Because - I don't...

Eric: Yeah, we're Harry Potter fans. How could they over do a J.K. Rowling - I mean, the more they give us...

Laura: Well, I just - It seemed like something they might try to play up a lot? But - I don't know.

Matt: Ah.

Laura: They might try - I don't know. It's just - it made sense to me. I'm sure that other people will understand where I'm coming from.

Jamie: It's good she does them rarely. No, I know what you mean.

Laura: Just because you have to sit here and question my usage.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: Good god!

Jamie: And your religion, as well; your religion.

Eric: I was afraid of it, too. See, I haven't seen it because I was afraid of it. Jamie, what were you saying?

Jamie: I was just saying that she comes onto this show to relax, and Micah's just hording her about her religion the entire time. Micah, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: This documentary was fantastic. I mean, they - I personally loved the camera angles.

Matt: Camera angles.

Laura: Yeah, they were fantastic.

Andrew: Yes. Oh my god. They were circling around Jo with these interviews. They had these clever shots with, you know, the items on her desk. And...

Matt: I particularly loved the part where the camera just panned to the left and then you kind of stopped right at the number where the gate had that little circle in the middle...

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Matt: And you saw the number on the door. [gasps]

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Is it me, or did they show kind of a tipsy side of J.K. Rowling in that video?

Andrew: You know, I thought the coolest thing was - well, not the coolest. But the most interesting part was seeing Jo sitting down with her sister, I believe it was, and Jo was just sitting in sweats.

[Matt laughs]

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: And you never see Jo like that, because she's always dressed up for some prestigious event or premier. But here she is, just sitting in her house in some sweats with her sister.

Matt: Did you see the boy haircuts of Jo?

Andrew: [laughs] Yes.

Laura: Yeah.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: The little pictures of Jo were funny, too.

Matt: The little mop-tops. Yeah.

Laura: It was really interesting to hear about her childhood. And also her relationship with her father, especially.

Andrew: Yes.

Laura: It's very sad.

Andrew: Yes, it wasn't that good of a relationship, was it?

Laura: No. No. And especially, you know, all the - everything where she talked about her mom. It was really sad. But, I thought that it just it - I don't know. It really made the pain that she put into the books from Harry losing his parents feel more real. To me, at least, you know?

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: Seeing and hearing her talk about that.

Eric: It gives an extra sort of purpose to that being in the books, too, doesn't it? Because it kind of helps you cope with it, I think, with more of it being a reality. Then why did she choose to write about this? Well, where is she coming from? It's exactly what you see.

Andrew: And, you know, she's always said in the past, and she said in this interview that one of her biggest regrets or the biggest regret she has in life was not telling her mother about Harry Potter before she died.

Jamie: That's so sad.

Matt: I thought it was her biggest regret wasn't seeing her mother...

Laura: Her mother, yeah.

Matt: ...when she died.

Andrew: Oh.

Laura: Because she had the option of a viewing, I guess.

Matt: Well, she wanted to, but her father said, "No."

Andrew: Her father said, "No." Yeah.

Matt: And then she just agreed and gave up attempting to see her. It also gave a lot of insight on her creation of the dementors. When there's that really downward spiral in her life, when she was alone with a daughter that she couldn't really keep, and she was scared...

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: see if she'd died every morning when she came to see her.

Eric: That's what I like about dementors, too. You can kind of tell that they just have real life, practical uses, like when people are just generally down and stuff. I mean, for instance, the boggarts being the monsters under the bed sort of thing, application. What I'm saying is, the readers relate to it, and so you say, "Well, dementors could have been here, and that's why," because often there is an air or foreboding and this whole depressing, there are depressing places. You walk into a place and you can tell that everybody in there, there's just this coldness and this darkness, and it all could be because of a dementor.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: They're two ways of showing fear, I guess. The boggarts which turn into your fear and the dementors that just create it. It's very well done, though, both of them.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Now the thing with this documentary was that was only released on ITV and they haven't put it online yet. It did get onto, I think it was, but then a few days later they blocked the site so only UK visitors can actually go on that website and check out. So, and I've been searching everywhere for this stupid video. It's not on You... The first part's on YouTube. I couldn't find a torrent of it, so it's kind of disappointing for American fans who want to check this documentary out. It's definitely worth it. I really hope they do air it in the US.

Micah: Oh, yeah, you're right, I'm sorry.

Andrew: Laura, you also wanted - of course I'm right.

Micah: Rarely.

Andrew: Laura, you also wanted to talk about Jo's religious views?

Laura: Yeah. I thought it was - You didn't really see a whole lot of that in the documentary, but there was kind of a brief moment or two where she talked about that, and they asked her if she believed in God. And she thought about it for a second. She said, "I do, but I'm very skeptical," or something along those lines.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah.

Laura: And I just thought it was really interesting considering how often her religious views and the credibility of the series as being a good role model type series for children to read being brought into light a lot. So I just thought it was interesting to kind of hear her come out and say, "You know, I do believe in God, but I still am skeptical of my religion, and there's nothing wrong with that."

Micah: Well, they did also shoot her in the church she went to when she was a kid.

Laura: Yeah, that's where she said it.

Micah: One of the things that was really cool that I would want to find out more information was when she was going through that book and she had to turn the page quickly so the camera didn't catch what name she was looking at when she said, "I borrowed that name for a really evil character in the series." Did you guys catch that?

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, and I was thinking about that today. I hope some tabloid goes back to that church...

Laura: I know.

Andrew: ...and finds the name and then writes a good story on it.

Eric: Yeah, because then we can see what it was.

Laura: Well it's, like, I'm just thinking of some, you know, really snobby church lady named Dolores that she used as Umbridge, or whatever.

Micah: Yeah, exactly.

Jamie: Yeah. It's got to be that.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: So funny. But anyway, also in this documentary, they had the handoff of the transcript right there in Heathrow, and Jo's meeting with Christopher Little himself right there in Heathrow. I think, right? That was Chris Little?

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: Yep.

Eric: Wow!

Andrew: Right there in Heathrow they've got a quick hand-off and Jo's done, boom, bang. The other interesting thing, and we discussed this last week or two weeks ago was that, you know it's interesting that Jo's just typing up the book on Word.

Jamie: That's so funny.

Andrew: But moreover, then she's just printing the transcript out, or the draft out herself, at home on her printer. You know, just printing out, spewing things out right there? I'm just like "Wow, unbelievable."

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: Normal concepts like, being out of ink just don't seem to apply there.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: The printer is like, "Hmmm, I'm out of ink but you know, I'm going to generate more because this is the final book in Deathly Hallows - eh, in Harry Potter."

Jamie: Yeah, that doesn't happen to Harry Potter. Doesn't happen.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Well didn't she say she ran out of paper? Wasn't there that story or something?

Andrew: [laughs] I don't know, but it'd be funny if there was a paper jam while they were recording, and then we miss a whole page of the book just because of that paper jam or something. But, interesting stuff.

[Jamie laughs]

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: And then lastly, they did a part on - they had a nice interview with Jo in there about how you know, she feels like, she can't believe people come to her asking for ideas and, you know, she doesn't really like all the attention and all the publicity, but she just goes with it because she knows she has to and, you know, it's part of the job.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: And - but she's not a fan of it. And she says, she openly says in the documentary she's not good at it. Well they have - they filmed a meeting for the theme park, and she's sitting there at the head of the desk with a bunch of, what I assume are a bunch of Universal executives. I'm sure maybe Stuart Craig might have even been there. But they're looking through pictures of the theme park and one thing that they discuss is a feature in the park where you will be standing somewhere in the Harry Potter area, and you will be able - you will be the only one to hear some ghost whisper something directly in your ear. Because hey're going to use some technology that is a speaker that will only - I don't know what the best way to put this is?

Jamie: Wait, it only goes to one person you mean?

Andrew: Right, exactly. So, you'll only be able to hear it if you're standing in a specific spot.

Jamie: How can it possibly do that?

Andrew: I don't - it's magic! It's the Wizarding World of Harry Potter!

Matt: Now, is this supposed to be something like a veil thing, where you can only hear the ghosts in the veil or something?

Andrew: Maybe. I was thinking - yeah. I don't know, we couldn't hear much of it. And I want to listen to it back, but I can't find the video again.

Eric: Yeah. Look, they have to really, I mean, they should make this video a lot more accessible because I couldn't find it, you know?

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Is this now - it's called JK Rowling...A Year in the Life, right?

Andrew: Yeah, yes.

Eric: And how long is it, would you say?

Andrew: I don't know; an hour, hour-and-a-half?

Laura: Like an hour.

Micah: Yeah, it was about an hour.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Hour-and-a-half. You just - it would make sense if it were such a good sort of interview that'd they'd want to get it out somewhere.

Andrew: It is. No, it is. There's probably some rights that they have to worry about, and you know, who to give it to in the US for distribution.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: But yeah. So we also got a couple new pictures of the theme park, which we posted on MuggleNet, because someone took them out of the video. So it's really, it's great how involved Jo is with this theme park. I didn't even picture her sitting in on meetings about this, but she is. That's cool, I guess.

Micah: Didn't she say she felt really overwhelmed by the fact that she had all of these business people around her?

Andrew: Yeah, coming to her and asking her how to do things.

Micah: Exactly, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. It's amazing though, you know, that she feels that way. She's still so down to earth, even being you know, the author of the Harry Potter books. It's crazy.

Eric: It's quite relieving I think too, I think, that the theme park people are that interested in what she has to add.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: Because I think they know this is a float or sink type thing where they have to really see if they can do it, you know, up to par for all our expectations, which is what we talked about last show.

New Theme Park Poll: Honeydukes, Hog's Head or Three Broomsticks?

Andrew: Yes. And they're very serious about it. So, in relation to the theme park Universal Studios has opened up a new section on their ,Wizarding World teaser site. It's a poll. They're getting the fans involved as well as J.K. Rowling and WB themselves. The current poll up right now asks visitors where they would most like to get your drink in the park. The options are The Hog's Head, The Three Broomsticks, or Honeydukes.

Matt: Mmmm.

Eric: Do we only get one?

Andrew: Well...

Eric: Is this like...

Andrew: I don't know if they only get one, but...

Eric: Are they only going to build one?

Andrew: They want to know about your top choice.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: The one that's going to make you come to the park.

Matt: I'm not sure about the quality of the glasses though in the Hog's Head.

Eric: Yeah, yeah. You're right. You could get like...

Micah: I'm only going to the Hog's Head if there's a goat.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: There should've been an option that was ‘Hog's Head without goat' or ‘Hog's Head with goat.'

Eric: Well, no. It'd be a petting zoo. That's where the petting zoo is going to be. It's going to be...

Micah: Define your...

Jamie: Yeah, but then you can't get a bar there because no one will go.

Micah: Yeah, you need to define "petting" considering it is the Hog's Head.

Matt: [laughs] Define "petting."

Eric: Oh, the poll says "Where would you most like to get your drink?" So whereas I would like Honeydukes, for a drink I think it would be Three Broomsticks. You got to go with the Butterbeer classic and the Three Broomsticks is...

Micah: Yeah, Madam Rosmerta. Who's going to play her?

Eric: Yeah, and we'll have an actress playing Rosmerta. Yeah.

Andrew: We could even send them the recipe on MuggleNet. Do we have a recipe?

Laura: We do.

Micah: Or a Playmate.

Andrew: For the drink? On MuggleNet?

Matt: Do we have a good recipe?

Laura: It actually is good. We made it once, me and my brother. It's pretty good.

Andrew: Really?

Laura: Hey, but you can tell that poll was written by a non-big Harry Potter fan.

Andrew: Why?

Jamie: Well, there's just something about it. Like it doesn't actually matter where you draw the sort of, you know, drink, but most of the big fans who write polls write them about people and characters, whereas that just seems to be like a cool poll that the odd person would just do anyway. Maybe that doesn't make sense.

Andrew: Well, I think they're making this poll to figure out where people would most like to get a drink. I mean they're serious, where you want to get your refreshments in the park.

Eric: Well, Honeydukes is a sweetshop. Honeydukes is candy.

Laura: Well, yeah.

Eric: You could sell fizzy pop and all sorts of crazy milkshakes and stuff.

Jamie: Okay, I guess I'm not making sense.

Laura: Well, I think what they're trying to do, and I'm saying this because I was just there, in the area where they're going to build the Harry Potter theme park there's a big restaurant right now, and it's shaped like a tree trunk. And it's absolutely massive, and I have a feeling that's what they're going to convert that into, and around it there's lots of other little stands where they sell, like, soda and stuff.

Jamie: So you think they're asking so they can call it the name of what somebody says?

Matt: So it's what they want to call the place where they make the restaurant.

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: Well they should kind of fit it to scale. You know the Hog's Head is like this kind of tavernous type thing compared to the Three Broomsticks which has got, you know, in the book they pull up tables and booths and stuff as where they sit at. And Honeydukes...

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: Do they have a full creative license for that?

Matt: Yeah, it does make sense.

Eric: Well, creative license works I guess.

Andrew: See, I think...

Eric: But it's exactly like having, it's exactly like having what they used to have in Animal Kingdom in Disney World. They used to have, I forget what it was. It was like A Bug's Life or something. It was this massive thing, and they built that tree in the very center of the park.

Andrew: Yeah, it's still there.

Eric: I thought they took it out.

Andrew: They didn't knock the tree down.

Eric: They made it a different show though...

Andrew: No.

Eric: ...than what it originally was.

Andrew: No, no, it's still Bug's Life.

Eric: Yeah, they do change things, but it wasn't as special. It didn't feel as special.

Andrew: Well, they're changing things to save money. If they don't have to rebuild, why bother?

Laura: No, I mean, but, Eric. They're going to use pre-existing structures, but they're going to fix them to make them look different.

Eric: Yeah, I know.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: They're not just going to leave this tree trunk shaped restaurant and try and call it The Three Broomsticks.

Andrew: [laughs] Try and call it the Hog's Head. I voted for Honeydukes because I think they're going to try and go for something that's most attractive for kids.

Jamie: It sounds nice, yeah.

Matt: No, it just doesn't make sense that they would have a drink or restaurant in Honeydukes. Honeydukes, they're definitely going to have Honeydukes in it because you've seen the pictures.

Jamie: There have to be - people like candy shops as well, so it's like that's an obvious attraction at a theme park.

Matt: Yeah, it's going to be a huge candy shop.

Micah: Yeah.

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: It's going to be a huge selling point, and the thing about the Hog's Head, to me that would be more of an adult place to go, just because I think in the stories it has more adult-type drinks, and I don't even know, does Universal Studios even sell alcohol?

Andrew: I was just going to ask that.

Laura: Yes, they do.

Andrew: They do?

Laura: They do.

Laura: Bad alcohol, but...

Andrew: Oh boy. Hmmm. Somebody is going to have a good time.

[Matt and Andrew laugh]

Laura: It's all Anheiser Busch and all that crap.

Andrew: Ewww.

Eric: They get paid quite a bit to...

Laura: Not that I know, ah...

Eric: Not that you've tried...

Andrew: Not that you...

Eric: sneak a drink or two. But I think so, and Micah, here is another question then. Do you think they would be able to get away with that, and say even though it is in a "children's book," could they get away with not selling or selling say, alcoholic drinks at the Hog's Head just because in the books it's an adult related - you know what I'm saying? Wouldn't everything primarily be for the kids, and therefore...

Jamie: Is the theme park themed?

Laura: I think it could.

Jamie: I mean, does it have like a rating?

Matt: No.

Jamie: Does it have a rating like 12 or NC17?

Laura: No.

Jamie: Well, then there has to be entertainment for the entire family, don't there?

Laura: I want to go to an NC17 rated park, Jamie. [laughs]

Jamie: Well, Laura. We should build one, Laura.

Matt: Well, Laura, you said yourself the place isn't really that huge so it will be pretty much one big...

Laura: Well wait, which one? Which island?

Matt: Each island? Each island?

Laura: Actually, when I was there if you're - when I was there last, I didn't realize that the two areas were actually one, but the Lost Continent area where they are building the Wizarding World of Harry Potter is actually fairly large. It's bigger than all the other areas, and I also noticed as I was walking through the Jurassic Park section, they are actually doing construction behind that as well. Which is kind of weird, because the whole park is shaped in a circle, and so it is almost like they are going to kind of have the Wizarding World protruding out of that a little bit.

Eric: Oh,it's cool.

Laura: So, it is going to be kind of big.

Matt: That's good. Do you think...

Laura: It's definitely going to be big.

Matt: Do you think it's really necessary if they have a Hog's Head and a Three Broomsticks that serve drinks? Is it really that big of a park?

Eric: Well then think about how many tiny shops they have at any amusement park, really, or how many tiny little vendors.

Laura: Yes, there's tons of little stands and yeah they have - there is a gift shop after every ride at Universal Studios.

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: So it's like, you know?

Eric: That is true.

Laura: They will have plenty of room for stuff.

Eric: What I think will be funny is for there to be an alcoholic drink thing like the Hog's Head and the parents would take the kids and just say yeah you take him to "Dobby's Fun Land" or "House Elf Adventure" and I'll go over to the Hog's Head. [laughs] You know? I'm just...

Jamie: Guys, I think we are reading way to much into this.

Matt: Yeah, it's a Harry Potter theme park.

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: It's to make money, and yeah, it's obviously going to have entertainment for everyone.

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: Which includes alcohol.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: That's a good point.

Laura: I don't see why they wouldn't sell alcohol there.

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: I mean, they sold alcohol in Seussland, so...

Matt: Well, they...

Andrew: Wait, that is what everyone has been debating?

Matt: They have to have something for the parents...

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: While the kids are screaming up and down about Harry Potter.

Eric: Do they anywhere else, though? [laughs] Some parents are into it more than the children. Especially the ones with little kids.

[Eric laughs]

Sweeney Todd Review: Rickman, Carter and Spall

Andrew: All right, so moving along, one thing that we did want to talk about that is sort of - well it's not really off topic - Sweeney Todd came out a couple of weeks ago.

Matt: Mhm!

Andrew: And I think Matt, Laura, and I are the only three who have seen it here?

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: Yep.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Oh, boo!

Laura: It's so good.

Andrew: Yeah, boo you guys.

Laura: Such a good movie.

Andrew: So the reason we wanted to talk about this is because there are three actors from The Order of the Phoenix: Alan Rickman, Helena Bonham Carter, and Timothy Spall. Timothy Spall is like in everything these days.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: He is doing a lot isn't he?

Andrew: Laura, what do you think of this movie?

Laura: I thought it was an excellent film, and there have been a lot of people who have been kind of nay-sayers about it, because they think it's too grim and they think it's too bloody. No. Screw that. It is an awesome, awesome film. Seriously. There is one - there's a scene at the beginning where you think he's about to - and I'm sorry if this needs to be like PG or whatever.

Eric: Spoiler warning.

Laura: Yeah, you think he's about to slice open Alan Rickman's throat, and you're just sitting there in your seat the whole time, like "Oh my god, he's going to do it, he's going to do it."

[Matt laughs]

Laura: And you're like - you jump every time. Oh god, it's such a good movie.

Eric: And he doesn't? It sounds like a disappointment.

Laura: No. No, trust me, it's awesome. It's awesome.

Andrew: Alright Eric, you mediate for the next ten minutes.

Jamie: He's sadistic, Laura. I bet he did slit his throat so we're not going to be worried and jump as soon as he does it.

Laura: He did slit a lot of people's throats.

Jamie: That's so mean.

Matt: No, you get enough. You get your money's worth.

Jamie: Oh, really? Okay, good, good.

Andrew: It's a very gory film. It is a musical. It's more of a musical than Hairspray is. It's like 90 percent music, 10 percent dialogue, but the music is the dialogue.

Matt: Yeah, like two sentences after every persons sings is just dialogue.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: It's okay.

Jamie: How well does Johnny Depp sing?

Andrew: Johnny Depp is a good singer. The best for me was Alan Rickman singing.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: That was fantastic.

Matt: Well, I like the boy.

Andrew: The boy was the best singer.

Matt: Out of the three, right? Out of the three, you mean?

Andrew: Yeah. I just enjoyed Alan Rickman the most because it was Alan Rickman singing. You know, it's Snape singing.

Laura: Mhm.

Eric: I think that's what I'm going to go see, yeah.

Andrew: It was pretty funny. But the music is also very good, so it's enjoyable. Matt and I have been listening to the soundtrack a lot. It's a nice soundtrack to relax to.

Matt: Oh, I really want to sing some songs right now. I'm jumping up and down right now.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: Do it. Do it, man. Now's - do it.

Andrew: Can we have a sample?

Matt: [singing] "Try Pirelli's Miracle Elixir, that's what did the trick, sir. True, sir, true. Da, da, da, da."

Jamie: Awww.

Andrew: Oh, great job, great job.

Eric: You know, that was good. I bet some of our listeners were singing along with you.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: And some turned off their iPods.

Matt: The funniest part of the song is Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter are talking about the elixir like, "This is piss, piss with ink. What is this?"

Andrew: Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: "This is piss, smells like piss."

Matt: It's very cheeky, but it's very...

Laura: It's darkly humorous.

Matt: It's a very Tim Burton film. Tim Burton did such a great job. I was so scared when I saw the previews.

Jamie: Tim Burton, Johnny Depp: can't go wrong. They're so such a great pairing.

Laura: Exactly.

Eric: See, I don't like Helena Bonham Carter, though. I have a really big problem with her in movies.

Laura: Why?

Matt: I love her.

Eric: Does she not play the same role in all these movies?

Laura: No.

Matt: No she doesn't.

Laura: No she doesn't.

Matt: Haven't you seen Fight Club? Planet of the Apes? She played a monkey!

[Laura laughs]

Eric: Yes. Well, I'm not saying - she's always - I'm sorry, she just looks in same in all the movies and it's just she plays this card, this...

Laura: What, she looks like herself?

Matt: I know. She looks like Helena Bonham Carter in all her films.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: I will say, she reminds me a lot - she plays a similar role to Bellatrix in this film. I mean, just the way she comes off, it's the same sort of attitude.

Matt: I don't know.

Laura: No, but she wasn't sadistic in this film.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: No. Well, no. Then there's also Timothy Spall, as I said earlier. Is it just me or is he always the evil sidekick?

Jamie: He is.

Laura: I feel like he's stalking me. I see him in everything.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Like, he was in A Series of Unfortunate Events...

Andrew: Enchanted.

Micah: Do you see him in your dreams?

Laura: Sometimes I do, Micah. Sometimes I do.

Andrew: A Series of Unfortunate Events?

Laura: Yeah, he was in A Series of Unfortunate Events a couple years ago.

Andrew: I forgot about that.

Matt: Enchanted.

Andrew: Mhm.

Laura: Now Timothy Spall, I would argue that he plays the same character a lot.

Andrew: Yes. Yes, thank you. He really does. I mean, maybe that's just what he likes to do. I don't know.

Laura: Yeah. He's very good.

Matt: Yeah, he looks like he's having fun. I would love to hang out with Timothy Spall.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: He just looks like an awesome guy.

Jamie: Well, I heard him on the radio this morning doing an interview and he sounded really, really nice. He sounded like a lot of fun. I hate the word, but he sounded, you know, bouncy personality, you know?

Andrew: Down-to-earth? Oh.

Jamie: Why, what'd you think I was going to say?

Andrew: No, I was going to say down-to-earth.

Jamie: Oh, he's kind of down-to-earth.

Andrew: People are like, "He's such a down-to-earth-guy."

Jamie: Yeah.

Eric: That's what you say about Jo all the time, Andrew.

Andrew: Yeah, I know. Well no, she is.

Eric: No, it's true.

Andrew: So, that's it - Sweeney Todd. I would give it five out of five stars.

Laura: Yeah, it was very, very good.

Jamie: I want to see it now.

Matt: It was very good.

Eric: Would you see it again, Andrew? Matt?

Andrew: Yeah. We were actually planning on it.

Eric: We'll do it tomorrow.

Laura: Oh yeah.

Andrew: We were actually planning on it, but Ryan had to be back home, so we didn't.

Eric: Yeah, I'd love to see it.

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