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Andrew [Show Intro with music in background]: This is MuggleCast - Episode 13 for October 30, 2005.

[Everybody makes scary noises]

Eric: Oooh. Halloween.

Andrew: [In creepy voice] Episode 13.

[More scary noises]

Andrew: [In creepy voice] Of MuggleCast.

[More scary noises]

Andrew: Wow! That was great!

[More scary noises]

Andrew: It took us two hours to rehearse for that. Welcome to the show everyone. Episode 13 - that is conveniently placed right on Halloween. Well, not right on. If you're listening on Monday, it's Halloween, and you're thinking right now, "Wow! Episode 13 right on Halloween. That's an unlucky number." I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: [making weird noise] I'm Eric Scull.

Laura:: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: This is show where we bring you the latest in Harry Potter news, theories, discussions, cooking recipes, Acne treatments - it's all here! But before we get to anything else, first, let's go over to Micah for the past week's top news stories.


Micah: Thanks, Andrew.

All 24 tracks from the fourth Harry Potter movie soundtrack have been posted up on AOL Music. Additionally, WB has launched a great website dedicated to the Goblet of Fire soundtrack. Composer Patrick Doyle said: “I'm particularly proud of my score for Harry Potter because it's the biggest commercial picture I've ever done.”

As part of their promotion for the upcoming film, several of the cast will be appearing on a variety of talk shows in the upcoming weeks. Here’s the rundown:

The Ellen DeGeneres Show on October 31st. New Goblet of Fire footage will air.

GMTV on ITV1, October 31st, 7:00 - 8:35 AM. Appearances by: Harry Potter "teen stars" and new Goblet of Fire footage will there air as well.

Dan Radcliffe will appear by himself on the following shows:

Friday Night with Jonathan Ross on BBC One, November 4th at 10:35 PM,

Live with Regis & Kelly on ABC, November 10th, and

Total Request Live on MTV, November 11th.

Finally, taped interviews with the cast will air on The Today Show on NBC, November 11th. Check local listings if no time or channel has been specified.

For all the new interviews (including the Goblet of Fire press junket from last Saturday), pictures, poster scans, and video clips, log on to MuggleNet’s Main Page. Additionally, the Yule Ball mini-site has opened over at and TLC has a special access link to the Dark Mark mini-site, not yet open to the public.

Moving from the silver screen to the courtroom, in September, little-known Winnipeg folk group The Wyrd Sisters filed a lawsuit (seeking over $40 million in compensation) against Warner Bros. The same lawsuit affected the people who play in the Yule Ball band. They did so believing the Goblet of Fire movie contains a scene featuring this band with the same name as theirs. It was announced yesterday that the group have now secured a November 4th court date where they hope to have the film barred from distribution across Canada.

The Polvadore family in Nacogdoches, Texas have spent the last few days constructing a real-life Dark Mark. The model, which looks great at night, is four by five feet and was made out of green rope lights. They have positioned the eerie Mark seven feet above their house.

Finally, wrapping up the news the blue Ford Anglia that was used in the second Harry Potter movie has been stolen, reports BBC News. Apparently, the car had been moved to the South West Film Studios in St Agnes for an exhibition. Police believe the car was towed or trailer-lifted from the scene as it cannot be driven. Quite the contrary, the car drives just fine. Oops! Did I say that out loud?

Well, anyway, before we go, a very Happy Birthday to MuggleNet staffer Catherine who celebrated her birthday on Friday.

That’s all the news from our News center in New York for this October 30, 2005, Halloween edition of MuggleCast. Back to you guys!

Andrew: Thank you, Micah.


Andrew: We have tons of stuff to bring to you this week. So much. Isn't that right, my fellow MuggleCasters?

Laura:: Righto.

Eric: That's correct, Andrew.

Andrew: We're going to talk some HP Halloween, but first let's cover a few announcements. First of all, Micah, Eric, Laura...Eric, I think you've done it. We've all done it. We've signed up for our Frappr! map.

Laura:: Yeah.

Eric: Yes.

Micah: Yes.

Andrew: Yes?

Eric: Yes.

Andrew: Yay! Hey! Our Frappr!... [Can't pronounce Frappr! Map]

I found this map service the other day, right after Episode 12 came out that lets you set up a Google map that your listeners or anyone you want, can put their little, put a little pin on this map that shows you where you are. And, I put this on the MuggleCast Page and you can get to it by clicking on "Tell Us Where You Live." And everybody has been tell us where they live in the U.S. and actually in the world. Isn't that cool?

Laura:: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Now, we know where everyone lives and actually it is quite intimidating because...

Laura:: Yeah!

Andrew: We're now...we're surrounded by people. It's kind of like, "Ehhh!"

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: I didn't know people listened to this show.

[Micah laughs]

Laura:: Yeah, it's kind of weird to look at the map and see someone 30 minutes away from you.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura:: Listens to you on their iPod. [Laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, really. There are still a couple of states we haven't conquered yet, but we're getting there.

Eric: Like North Dakota.

Andrew: There's only...we have about 270ish people right now that have joined into it, but if you want to join in, just go to, then click on "Tell Us Where You Live." And, you can include a photo and comments, and I think one person said it best. They said, "Oh good. Now I know where everybody lives in case I have to move out of my house." So, now we can all network together and we can just go to each other's houses.

Last week we asked you to help us out by voting for us on Yahoo! Podcasts and also vote for us on Podcast Alley. A couple of updates there. First of all we're No. 1 on Yahoo! Podcasts highly-rated section, thanks to you guys!

Laura:: Yahoo!

Eric: Yahoo!

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, really. Yahoo!

[Eric makes Yahoo! noise from commercial]

Andrew: Also, on Podcast Alley we need a new vote from each of you every month because they reset their votes at the beginning of each month. So, November is right around the corner. If it's November already, go to Podcast...go to and click on "Vote for us on Podcast Alley!"

So, since this is our Halloween Episode, we sent Jamie and Ben out trick-or-treating. That's what we are going to use as our excuse and none of you can stop us. Oh, I'd also like to clear something up. There's been rumors going around.

Eric: Again.

Andrew: We don't hate Ben.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Eric: Speak for yourself, Andrew. Speak for yourself.

Andrew: No, we really don't.

Eric: No, I love Ben. Ben's...

Andrew: I've been a bad host. We've been sort of acting like we don't like him because just the way we would say that, and people were thinking "Oh! How do you...if he's a co-host then why do you have him on if you hate him?" And, blah, blah, blah. But no, we don't hate him.

Eric: Ben is my...

Andrew: Right, guys?

Eric: Ben is my favorite Kansan.

Andrew: Yeah. He's going to be living with me for a week. So, I have to like him.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: I'm forced to do this. I have no choice. [Whispers] Someone get me out of here.

[All laugh]

Eric: I'll drive to New Jersey and I'll pick you up. No, we'll pick you up on our bus ride to New York.

Andrew: Episode 12 - a lot of you were having problems with it stopping at 30:49. I did make a news post, but apparently still a lot of people missed it. I think the error most likely occurred in iTunes. If you're downloading it and it cuts out at 30:49, go to and click on "Downloads/Episodes". [Transcriber's note: He means "Subscribe/Download"] and in there, there is a new version of the show. It's the same exact show. It is just that it has the entire file. So, if you want to go back and listen to it, because 30 minutes of us is not enough. You got to get the full thing.

Laura:: Definitely.

Eric: Yeah, but if it's 30:48, that is completely not our fault.

Andrew: Oh, that's completely normal.

Laura:: Ha ha.

Eric: If it... Yeah. If it cuts out at 30:48, I mean...

Andrew: No, but anything shorter than an hour...

Eric: An hour...

Andrew: ...something...1:14:00? I think. I don't know.

Eric: Something like that. It was a long show, but you know what was funny? Was that we were all talking about, Laura was saying how we don't get closure in life with death.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: And we were all like, "Yeah, you know, kids really don't get closure when their relatives and things die" and then BAM!

[Laura laughs]

Eric: The episode shuts off and everybody checks their little iTunes thing, or their little iPod, and they're like, "Huh? What?"

[Laura laughs]

Eric: "Closure? What?"

Andrew: We wanted to demonstrate what we really meant. We wanted to give you the full feel.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: Yeah, that's what it is.

Andrew: But, no the entire show is on just click on "Downloads/Episodes." [Transcriber's note: Again, he means "Subscribe/Download"]

Andrew: And as some of you might know, November is Native American Month and some of you might have projects for school or just may be interested in the Native American culture. For this reason, the next few shows will be sponsored by On the site, you can find a forum, a photo and video gallery, information about Pow Wows, a calendar of Pow Wows and much, much more. To visit the site go to or just go to and we'll have a link right there on the Main Page. I was on the site the other day and I'll tell you what, it is a great site for research because it has dancing styles, singing, grand entries, Pow Wow etiquette, and much more! So visit it today,


Andrew: And, finally one last note. We're growing guys. We're growing. We're growing. We're growing.

Eric: I have grown three inches since I have started MuggleCast.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: You bombed! But anyway, we are now in a partnership with Mobilcast, which is a mobile podcasting service that is a service that goes on to your cell phone, and then you can listen to and download podcasts right there on your cell phone. And, one of those podcasts that you can download and listen to on your cell phone is...

Laura:: MuggleCast!

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: No, PotterCast!

Micah: What's PotterCast?

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: No, it is MuggleCast! So, Mobilcast is a great new feature. We're not getting paid by them. We're not paying them. We're doing...we're partnering with them to help each other promote one another, and I really think that this mobile... Right now, we have podcasting. You put it on your iPod, you listen to it on your computer, blah, blah, blah. But, what does everyone have? Not everyone has a cell phone.

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Eric: Andrew, you ruined that.

Andrew: I mean, not everyone has an iPod. Everyone does have a computer, but what if you want to listen to it on the go? And, that's why this new service - I really think has potential because now everyone can listen to it while they are on the road.

Eric: Andrew, I have a question.

Andrew: What?

Eric: So, I have a Nokia 3120 phone and I was wondering if all phones are really compatible because our shows are pretty long, they are like an 1:15:00.

Andrew: Well, right now this is only compatible with a few phones.

Eric: I see.

Andrew: You want me to go through them real quick? They are the Motorola Razor, which every person has almost, not every person, but a lot of people have.

Eric: I know what you mean.

Andrew: The Motorola Rocker, which also supports iTunes now, but you can't download podcast to that. The Nokia 6620, 6630, and 6682, the Sony Ericsson k700, and the Sony Ericsson s710. So, if anyone has those phones, Mobilcast is a free service. For more information just to go to and click on the button that says "Mobilcast."

Main Topic - Halloween in the Harry Potter Series

Andrew: And the main topic for this week is wait. We aren't going to be doing Lupin this week because, we'll be honest. We announced what character we're going to be discussing on this show too late and we were expecting a lot of voicemails, but we actually got none because we didn't give people enough time, I don't think. So, at the end of each show starting with this show, we'll be telling you which character we are going to be talking about a week ahead. So, if you want to get on the show with your voicemails, with your questions, they have to be voicemails. Please don't e-mail them. We appreciate the e-mails, but we can't air e-mails, and we like being able to play people's voices. So, if you have a question regarding to next week's character, just listen towards the end of the show, we'll tell you what character, and...okay! But, right, instead of talking about Lupin this week, we are going to cover Halloween first off, then we've got a little more stuff to talk about. Some more stuff to talk about. Halloween, it is has been such an important part in the Harry Potter books. There has been a lot of events that have happened on Halloween. Anyone want to start with some? Eric, you want to go over them?

Eric: Sure. We'll go chronologically.

Andrew: The first one would be what?

Eric: So, the first one would be Harry's parents' murder.

Laura:: Yeah.

Eric: I guess. Unless we know something before that. Okay. Okay. So, the attack on Harry's parents by Lord Voldemort. And you know what? It's kind of a bad thing to start off on because not only was Halloween a terribly bad thing, but that was the fall of You-Know-Who. So, it is kind of a good thing, but generally speaking, Halloween has not been too happy for Harry. There was his parents' murder and in the first year there was the troll in the dungeon, which we are going to play an audio clip of somewhere in this show.

Andrew: Second?

Eric: Second year was the what...Death Day? Oh, first attack.

Laura:: Death Day Party. Yeah.

Eric: The first attack on the wall. The writing on the wall, Mrs. Norris, which was funny, but a bad thing anyway because everybody suspected him.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Micah, do you remember what happened in Book 3?

Laura:: Wasn't that when Sirius Black like...

Eric: Oh, Sirius Black...

Laura:: ...broke in to the Common Room.

Eric: Got it. And in Book 4, which is a really important one, was the Goblet ceremony, as Micah pointed out to me earlier. The Goblet of Fire where Harry found out that he was sentenced, more or less, to be put through trials and suffering.

Andrew: And, we're going to move on to that in a minute, but first of all, is it worth discussing that JK Rowling puts all these things on Halloween? I mean there hasn't been any Halloween events in the past two books, probably because there is better stuff going on than to really mention Halloween, but is there any really question here? Why she does it?

Eric: I think that is really a good question because in Book 5 and 6, I think somebody said that Harry's first detention was on Halloween or something like that. So, there might still be some kind of connection that we are missing, but I don't think the Halloweens are as pronounced as they used to be anymore in the last two books. So, that is a good question.

Laura:: I really always took it, didn't she that Halloween was her favorite holiday? So, it wouldn't surprise me that she would try to make it more prominent because of that.

Andrew: You mean in recent books?

Laura:: I'm talking about when she...

Eric: Did it to begin with.

Laura:: When she started the series, how Halloween was far more prominent in the books, and she talked about how Halloween was her favorite holiday. So...

Eric: Well, Halloween has really evolved, I think. It's got a lot of decor to it. You know? You think...when you think of Halloween, you think of pumpkins and ghouls and demons and...

Laura:: Candy!

Eric: Candy and...

[Laura laughs]

Eric: You know?

Andrew: And witches...

Eric: Witches.

Andrew: And I guess wizards.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: But, so it only makes sense. Personally, I think something should have...Halloween should have been mentioned in Order of the Phoenix and Half-Blood Prince, but it didn't happen and...

Eric: I'm sorry. I think they were too busy snogging in Book 6 too much.

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Laura:: It's true!

Eric: Okay, according to Floo Network, Floo, it states that Molly Weasley's birthday, Mrs. Weasley was actually born on October 30th, which is probably from JKR's site. So, Mrs. Weasley was born the day before Halloween, which is interesting. Could she possibly meet a bad fate in the future? Guys?

Laura:: Hmmm. It's possible, but at this point I think, and we discussed this last time. No one is safe.

Eric: Yeah. Good point.

Laura:: They're all doomed.

Eric: Also, Angelina Johnson. Oh, that's interesting. Angelina Johnson was born the last week of October. They don't know the exact date, but she got attacked in Book 6 and nearly died.

Andrew: But, here's a good question to ask ourselves. Why hasn't Harry made a bigger deal of Halloween? Because it was the day that his parents both died.

Eric: Question... Well, first of all, excellent question, but does he know it was on Halloween? Has anybody actually... He does?

Andrew: Yes. Didn't Hagrid tell him so in Sorcerer's Stone?

Laura:: I don't seem to remember that Hagrid was terribly precise about the day, but knowing my luck, I am totally wrong and the comments are going to overflow with people yelling that I should be moved off of the podcast. So, I'm shutting up now.

Eric: Oh come on. We've all had our mistakes in discussing.

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Andrew: How did we find out about it in the books then?

Eric: Well no, the question is...

Laura:: Hagrid told Harry.

Eric: Yeah, Andrew. The thing is...

Andrew: Yeah, so Harry does know.

Eric: Right, between... Between the books...

Laura:: Well, I don't think he told him what date though.

Andrew: Oh!

Eric: Between the books and the movies, there are a lot of things, and in the first book, Hagrid tells Harry almost everything, even the Voldemort thing right in front of the Dursleys. Like right in front of them in the books. And, that's not in the movies. He tells him in the Leaky Cauldron in the movies. So, there is a significant deal more that Hagrid actually tells Harry in front of the Dursleys, and I think that is important. What I don't know... I don't think it is answered in either the books or the movies is how Harry knows his birthday? Because I don't know how the Dursleys would know. And Dumbledore might have told him, but why would the Dursleys tell Harry his birthday. That would give him something to look forward to.

Laura:: Not if they wanted to use it as a reason to...

Eric: To torment him.

Laura:: torment him.

Eric: Right, but, I mean...

Andrew: Because if he knows when his birthday is, why would he be looking forward to it if he is living with the Dursleys? Pre...

Laura:: And all he is going to get, is like, a sock.

Andrew: Pre-Hogwarts. Right. Exactly.

Eric: Well...

Andrew: So, what is he looking forward to?

Eric: I guess. But, he was looking forward to it. You know? He was looking forward to being eleven, and even though it was crap, it said, "It is not everyday that you turn eleven." So, he's...

Laura:: Yeah. That's true.

Eric: I mean I just don't know how he knew it because it seemed like an obscure thing for him to know is all I am saying because I don't think they would tell him.

Laura:: Well, I could see the Dursleys using it as...

Eric: Torment. Right.

Laura:: Just another thing to make him more miserable, but what I don't think they count on is how optimistic Harry is.

Eric: That's true.

Micah: And to go back to the Hogwarts Halloween thing for just a moment. I mean perhaps it's made into such a big deal just because when you think of witches and wizards, you think of Halloween. So, wouldn't that be a holiday that should just be celebrated naturally in that type of situation?

Eric: Environment or genre?

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, I think that's, that's great.

Laura:: Now, here's a question. This just came to mind. Okay, for Halloween, all we Muggles, we dress up as witches and wizards. Do you think that witches and wizards dress up as Muggles?

Andrew: Do they dress up in the first place?

Laura:: Well...

Micah: I bet Arthur Weasley does.

[Laura and Eric laugh]

Eric: It's Muggle Day! Yeah, I'd love see to the Ministry of Magic employing a "Muggle Appreciation Month." You know?

[Laura laughs]

Eric: With the Prime Minister coming over. I don't really think that that happens. So... But, they should have "Muggle Appreciation Month" and maybe they can learn something and stop dressing like scarlet women.

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Eric: At all these Quidditch Cup events..

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