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MuggleCast 139 Transcript

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Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you all enjoyed - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!

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Andrew: Because I'm not on the show this week, so be prepared to fast forward through most of it, this is MuggleCast Episode 139 for March 30th, 2008.

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Matt: [impersonating Andrew] Wahoo! Welcome, everyone, all you MuggleCast listeners. This is MuggleCast, I am Andrew Sims. Yeah! Yeah! All right! And we got some other hosts on the show, so we're just going to pop it over. Is there anyone else in here?

Jamie: [impersonating Andrew] Well, yeah.

Laura: Yeah. Hey!

Matt: Hey!

Jamie: There's more than one Andrew.

Matt: [impersonating Andrew] Yeah, this is Andrew! My personality, cocky self!

Jamie: [laughs] We should have a show where everyone's Andrew. That would get confusing as hell.

Laura: Yeah, that would. But you know it does sound a lot like him. I guess...

Jamie: I am impressed.

Matt: Oh, thank you.

Laura: I know.

Jamie: Very impressed.

Matt: That's a huge compliment.

Laura: Matt?

Matt: What?

Jamie: I'm sorry, we thought it was Andrew.

Matt: All of you know, Andrew's not here, but the ones who are on the show, it's me. I'm Matthew Britton.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Jamie: It's me. I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: Jamie is here, everyone! Finally, after a...

Laura: Yay!

Matt: ...seventeen month delay of him being on the show.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Was the show going seventeen months ago?

Matt: I don't - it's been something like that, hasn't it?

Laura: Although, if you've measured it in blikle years, I'm sure it would have been much longer.

Jamie: It would have been, Laura. It would have been, but Pickle Pack is on its last legs, I believe. I know.

Laura: Yeah, it's really sad.

Jamie: It's going to be over very soon. It is very sad. By the way, by the way, the show, when are we ending it? Because it seems like it's going on for longer than was the original plan. I've been out of the loop so much.

Micah: To answer your question...

Matt: Um, I don't really know.

Micah: ...Jamie, I did some calculations, actually. [laughs] The shows been going on for thirty-one months.

Jamie: Thirty-one months.

Laura: Oh my gosh.

Micah: Thirty-one months.

Jamie: That does not sound like a lot at all.

Matt: Well, it's...

Jamie: Thirty-one months.

Matt: No, it doesn't. It's almost three years, though. That is a lot.

Laura: Well, it's interesting that you bring that up because we do actually have an announcement that we'll be getting to in a few minutes after Micah does his news...

Jamie: Oh, really?

Laura: ...pertaining to the life of the show. So we're pretty excited about that.

Matt: Oh, yes.

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Matt: Now let's take it over to Micah Tannenbaum in the MuggleCast News Room. After a month of being absent, he is back. So let's go over to Micah.

Micah: All right, thanks, Andrew. As many of you are well aware, J.K. Rowling and Warner Brothers are involved in an ongoing lawsuit with RDR Books over a companion novels seeking publication by Harry Potter Lexicon owner Steve Vander Ark. The Associated Foreign Press reported earlier this week that Jo is expected to appear in court in New York City next month. A New York federal district court judge ordered earlier this week that the case go to trial beginning April 14 and Rowling's presence has been requested by RDR Books. RDR lawyer David Hammer was quoted saying, "We asked for her and they said they would provide her. I would say it would be very unlikely that she would not appear." The witness list must be submitted this week by April the 4th. We will keep you posted as this story continues to develop.

And on Friday the CBS Early Show did a piece on the growing sport of Quidditch on college campuses across the country. As previously reported in USA Today, Quidditch is becoming a very popular sport among college students, and now the school that began it all, Middlebury College, is going on an eight-school tour during their spring break recess. On Friday, Middlebury was at Amherst College in Massachusetts, and that is where the CBS Early Show broadcasted from. To see video from the CBS Early Show, be sure to head over to

The Harry Potter book series has once again won Favorite Book at the 2008 Kids' Choice Awards. As most of you probably know, Potter has repeatedly won for the award for Favorite Book in past years.

And finally, Nigel Newton, the chief executive of the U.K. Potter publisher, Bloomsbury, will disclose this Tuesday that the phenomenal success of Deathly Hallows was the major factor behind an increase in annual profits from 5.2 million to more than 17 million this past year. A report by the Sunday Herald continues that Newton "will claim that the Potter effect will continue for years ahead as the group dips into cash reserves of more than 40m, built up from past Potter sales, to promote new talent and to make further acquisitions."

That's all the news for this March 30th, 2008 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Matt: All right, thank you, Micah. Micah, has this been a good week of news or a slow week?

Jamie: Well, he's just told you.

[Jamie and Micah laugh]

Matt: Well, yeah, but I wasn't really listening.

News Discussion: J.K. Rowling Going to Court

Micah: No, it's all right. It's all right. I would say when you look at it it hasn't had a lot of news, but the news stories that we have had have been pretty big. So first off, obviously, J.K. Rowling is reported to appear in court on April 14 here in New York City, and I say "here" because I'm pretty close to New York City. I don't know if that would apply to Jamie and Laura and you, but it's - she's actually supposed to be on this witness list that is being submitted by April 4, and based on this article that was put out, I think it was earlier this week, all things sort of point to her having to show up. And RDR books, who would be the defendant in this case, says that she's going to be there. I don't really think that Jo probably wants to have to pick up and travel in the middle of the spring...

Laura: Yeah, it does kind of suck.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: and have to come all the way to New York just for this trial, but it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Jamie: Do you know how people swear an oath on the Bible? She should swear one on a Harry Potter book.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Well, Micah, you and Andrew were thinking about going to the courthouse, right?

Micah: Well, I don't know if you can actually do that, to be honest. I don't know if it's an open trial. I would think that some media would be allowed to attend to cover the trial and, you know, all that kind of stuff. It would be interesting because I would think that also maybe somebody like Jo would want the fansites to cover it and to get a real perspective as to what's going on.

Jamie: I don't think it works like that, though. I don't think it's like a movie premiere where you can jump up and down and scream and say, "Go Jo!"

Laura: No.

Micah: No, no. I mean just to kind of sit and observe.

Laura: But you know there will be people outside the courthouse doing that, though.

Jamie: Yeah, but that's not the same as being inside.

Matt: Oh, of course.

Laura: Oh, I know, but it's really bizarre when you think about it because here there's this serious trial going on, and all these fans are going to convene and treat it like a premiere or a book reading. It's just - I find that interesting.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: Well, they'll probably just show up just to show their support for Jo, I would think.

Laura: Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Jamie: [laughs] I'd laugh if she wins and then come November, we see the judge in like a walk-on role in Half-Blood Prince or something.

Laura: Yeah. [laughs]

Micah: No Americans, Jamie. No Americans are allowed.

Jamie: In what?

Matt: Oooh.

Jamie: Yeah, but I'm sure she can bend the rules to avoid a lawsuit.

Laura: I don't think she's going to have to bend the rules for anything. I think she's going to win.

Jamie: She will, yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: She will. It's done and dusted.

News Discussion: New Picture from Movie 6

Matt: So let's move on to our next big top news discussion. We got a new Half-Blood Prince pic, official from Warner Brothers.

Laura: Doesn't it...

Matt: It's...

[Jamie groans]

Laura: Doesn't it feel like every time a new movie comes out the first picture we get, or one of the first pictures, is the three of them sitting in front of the fire, looking concerned about something?

Jamie: Yeah, exactly. It is the concerned syndrome.

Laura: It's the same picture. [laughs]

Matt: But I mean, does it look kind of staged to you? Because to me it looks completely like they took this picture on purpose.

Jamie: Matt, it's a movie. It's a movie, of course it's staged. [laughs]

Laura: Yeah.

[Matt laughs]

Laura: But I mean, you're saying that it wasn't actually taken from a scene, you think that they actually...

Jamie: Oh. Sorry.

Laura: ...had to do a photo shoot, or something?

Matt: Yeah, I mean, because this kind of reminds me of one of those pictures from Order of the Phoenix when the Trio is in the Hog's Head, and Harry looks like he's about to get up, and then so does - I mean Harry's already standing up, and Ron looks like he's about to get up, and Hermione's looking to the side.

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Remember that photo I'm talking about? And we don't really even see that scene in it, but, I don't know, it just reminds me of the same picture.

Jamie: And also, just to remind you, to say that every time there comes the concern picture, and, you know, and then people draw up conclusions from it, they're like, "Oh, I think it's going to be a dark movie full of suspense, just from that concerned picture."

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Well, there's like a whole page of comments just about Hermione's hair.

Laura: You know, who cares?

Matt: It's this huge issue with every single movie. All the fans have to comment on how Emma's hair is in the movie.

Jamie: It is exciting, to be honest.

[Laura laughs]

Matt: Yeah, have you seen the curls?

Laura: That's the first thing I think of.

Matt: Well, honestly, I don't like Hermione's hair in this because it's blonde, so I don't really think she's really going to be that good of an actress in this book, so I don't even think - or this movie, so I'm not going to watch it.

Jamie: Cool. Same here.

Matt: All right.

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Laura: It's just - I don't know. It's a nice picture, but I just feel like it's always the same. They always have Hermione holding a newspaper, and it's, as Andrew would say, the typical Emma Watson concern face. And then Ron always looks somewhat confused.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: And he's always in the back.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: It's always Harry and Hermione in the front, and Ron's always pushed in the back.

Laura: Yeah, that's always bothered me. Anytime you look at the movie posters Ron is always in the back. What is with that?

Matt: I have no idea.

Laura: Seriously. He's Harry's best friend, guys, got to switch it up a little.

Matt: I know, and Ron's eating walnuts. Who eats walnuts? In a bowl?

Laura: [laughs] Apparently he does that.

Jamie: Come to England then. You'd be surprised.

Matt: I guess so, I'm really not...

Jamie: That's one of the less weird things we do.

Micah: What's that? Sorry, I missed it.

Jamie: Eating walnuts.

Micah: Oh.

Jamie: From a bowl.

Micah: [laughs] Oh, you crazy people.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: We do it during school.

Matt: [laughs] Well, have you guys seen - I mean on the Daily Prophet newspaper, is that Slughorn's picture in it? Do you guys think? It kind of looks like the actor who plays him.

Laura: I haven't studied it that closely; I was too busy looking at Emma's hair.

Matt: I know. Oh my goodness.

Laura: I just can't get over it.

[Jamie laughs]

Laura: It's so wonderful.

Micah: Wow. Really?

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: Nice input, Micah.

[Everyone laughs]

Micah: Well, what's interesting about that, and I actually just looked at the picture right now, is it looks like the word "Ministry" is on the paper. So I was wondering if that could be the new Minister.

Laura: It could be.

Jamie: Or a book. Or a piece of parchment. Oh, sorry.

Micah: It looks like "More Disappointment at Ministry" if you read it.

Matt: Or "disappearances"

Micah: Yeah, "at Ministry," so...

Laura: Yeah, that would make sense.

Micah: Or it could just be some person that disappeared. Ha.

Matt: Weird. I just have a feeling David Yates is going to do his whole Daily Prophet transitions again in this movie.

[Jamie laughs]

Laura: I thought those were awesome. Did you not like them?

Matt: Oh, I did! No, no, no, I did. Sorry.

Laura: What did everyone else think of those?

Jamie: They - I mean it was a gimmick, but it's cool. Very cool. You know?

Matt: Mhm.

Jamie: I mean...

Matt: It definitely quickened the pace, at least.

Jamie: Yeah, it did.

Laura: Yeah, I thought it was a good pacing tool, because they could get across a lot of information without having to use up time in the film, I guess. Like stuff that we didn't necessarily need to see acted out.

Matt: It's definitely one of the biggest - Order of the Phoenix is the biggest book in the series, correct?

Laura: Mhm.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: So, yeah, that would explain why there's so many montages in the movie as well.

Laura: Yeah.

Announcement: MuggleCast is Dominating Podcast Alley

Matt: Let's move on to some more announcements. Currently, MuggleCast is number one on Podcast Alley.

Laura: Whoo! Yaay!

Matt: Still, this entire month. It's been MuggleCast March.

Laura: Way to go.

Jamie: Awesome.

Matt: It has.

Laura: We have to come up with some clever term for April, so we can...

Matt: Yeah, Mapril is still not doing it for me.

Laura: Mapril, ehh. Mapril.

Jamie: Isn't that just adding the letter "M" to the beginning of "April?"

Matt: Yeah. It is.

Jamie: Oh. [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: Mapril. And then Mmmmay.

[Everyone laughs]

Micah: May, that's a stretch though, Jamie.

Matt: I don't think the fans would get that, though. I don't see the connection.

Jamie: Well, wouldn't it be M-May? Or is it just Mmmmay?

Matt: Mmmmay.

Laura: [laughs] May.

Matt: Two Ms.

[Jamie and Laura laugh]

Announcement: MuggleCast is Changing

Matt: Let's move on to one more announcement. The reason why Andrew is not on the show is because Andrew is currently in Oregon. Portland, Oregon to be precise, doing a little on-set visit to the Twilight film. Have you guys heard about this?

Laura: Yeah, yeah. Actually, he was...

Jamie: Boasting about it the other day.

Laura: ...he met a few of - yeah! He's just - he's very, very excited. I just talked to him a little while ago, and he said that he's seen - well, Matt, you said he saw all of the - for those of you who read Twilight, the Cullen siblings.

Matt: Yes, he saw all the Cullen family. The Cullen family is the vampire family, if you don't know from the books.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: And he also talked to Robert Pattinson, whom you all know played Cedric Diggory in the Goblet of Fire film. And...

Jamie: Did some coke with him. [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Micah: You mean drank some coke, right?

[Jamie laughs]

Laura: Smoke a little weed, you know.

Jamie: Yes.

Matt: Oh, gosh.

Jamie: I drank some coke with him.

Matt: And many of you are probably wondering why he is on the set. Well, this kind of leads into another announcement that we've all been talking about and deciding on for quite some time, and we've actually decided to - well, since I haven't been on the show very much, does anyone else want to talk about this? This is a really big announcement.

Jamie: Huge.

Laura: Yeah, yeah sure. So, you know, a lot of people have been writing in for a while that are really, really upset about us ending the show in April or May because, obviously, there's only so much Harry Potter content we have. But we know that there are actually a lot of fans who love other types of fantasy, you know, genres and other types of books and stuff, so we thought why not expand our show to encompass all those other fandoms? What do you guys think of that? Does that sound good? Yeah? No?

Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's an awesome idea.

Jamie: With the new ones coming out as well; we've got Twilight, Spiderwick Chronicles...

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: know, all that kind of awesome stuff, so...

Laura: Yeah, see we were thinking about Spiderwick, and we haven't, you know, a hundred percent fit it into how we're going to schedule the show, but here's how we've got it broken down at this point. We've got the new show, the new MuggleCast, as you might call it, broken down into four different segments right now. We've got "Totally Twilight," which is when we're going to dedicate that time to like a chapter of the Twilight series, also we're going to go over some movie discussion, obviously Andrew's at the set right now, so he'll bring us a full report, and it'll be excellent. For those of you who are all about Narnia, we're going to do a thing. Right now it's called "Welcome to Narnia." By the way, if you guys have any better suggestions for the names of these segments, please feel free to e-mail them in. We're always open to suggestion.

Jamie: We are.

Laura: And in that I also mean, there's all the Narnia movies going on right now, so that'll be great. We'll do Chapter-by-Chapter on that as well. And for those of you who are big Lord of the Rings fans, we're going to have "Journey to Middle Earth," which will of course cover analysis, and I think we'll probably talk a lot about the upcoming Hobbit movie.

Matt: Yes.

Laura: So that should be pretty good. And we've decided that we will, of course, still have Harry Potter as part of our show.

Jamie: Because we started off as one, so we're still going to end as one, you know.

Laura: Yeah, exactly.

Matt: Yes, exactly.

Laura: There would be no reason to cut Harry Potter out, and I know that would upset a lot of people too. Don't you guys think?

Matt: Oh, yeah, especially. I mean they wouldn't even listen to the show if we didn't talk about, at least, ten or twenty minutes of Harry Potter.

Jamie: And they'd go around killing people.

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Jamie: Serial killing people, so you know, kind of....

Laura: Oh, God. We wouldn't want to start a mass spree of serial killers.

Jamie: Can't become responsible for deaths. Yeah.

Matt: MuggleCast kills.

Laura: So I think Andrew came up with this one - sounds like something he'd come up with anyway...

[Jamie laughs]

Laura: We're going to put all that into a segment called Muggle-MiniCast, which I think he kind of took as a cue from the older shows when we would do the smaller episodes, you know, the twenty-thirty minutes ones.

Matt: Yeah, I remember those, yeah.

Laura: Yeah, so we're going to combine a lot of that into, maybe, a twenty minute segment. So this is all - we're hoping to put this into effect next week. Do you guys think...

Jamie: Well, also, you've missed out the fifth segment, which we want to do Star Wars, since that's a huge, huge deal as well. People still like that as well.

Laura: Oh, really?

Matt: Oh, yes, definitely Star Wars. Yeah. We're thinking about having another mini-segment for other stuff like Star Wars and Spiderwick...

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: ...because since there's nothing really coming out right now we're just going to combine them all just in case there's a new big news event or something to talk about.

Jamie: But - but on the Star Wars one, we want to call it Force Feedback, but we're currently in talks with the lawyers at Microsoft because they make a gaming controller called Force Feedback.

Laura: Oh, that's right.

Matt: Yes. Yeah.

Laura: Oh.

Jamie: Yeah, we just have to talk to them and stuff like that, but hopefully it should be sorted out soon, which is cool.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Hopefully it's all great, and if you listeners are kind of concerned about if we're going to keep doing Chapter-by-Chapter, we are going to do it, but we're just going to kind of condense it into a ten to fifteen minute discussion at the very, very most, because, I mean, this is a lot of stuff to talk about. So everything's going to be at least twenty minutes long.

Laura: Right. And I mean the way we figured it is that it seemed like a happy medium when you think about putting Chapter-by-Chapter into a smaller segment because you have people who think we either drone on about stuff too long, or you think people who think, you know, people who think we don't spend enough time. So this way we can just pick out a couple of key things from the chapters and discuss those for seven or eight minutes each, and then it'll all be good, I think.

Micah: I think it's absolute crap, to be honest with you. I think you cannot take away from what we've been working on for the past three years now and change it over into something else.

[Matt sighs]

Laura: Uh, well...

Matt: Well...

Laura: Sorry, Micah.

Jamie: Well, we're doing it. [laughs]

Laura: [laughs] Yeah, I mean, this is an executive decision here. I mean...

Matt: Come on, guys.

Micah: So where are Andrew and Ben?

Laura: Well, not - I mean, we all vote...well, Ben doesn't matter anymore.

[Micah laughs]

Jamie: Kevin made the decision.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: No, really, we really did sit down and talk about this for a long time. I mean, Matt, when did this talk originally start? It seems like it was like February.

Matt: This originally talked after...

[Jamie laughs]

Matt: ...the Spiderwick movie came out and everyone was talking about like, "Oh my God, they're going to do SpiderwickCast." And, basically, that kind of - whoever really just wrote that to us or brought that to our attention, you pretty much made that decision for us.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Because you're the ones who brought that into our heads.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: And we started discussing it, and I...

Laura: Yeah. Well, it's funny because we viewed it as a joke originally. We kind of joked around about SpiderwickCast. But actually, I really think it's going to be a good idea and I think that when you guys see it in action you're really, really going to like it.

Jamie: Going to enjoy it, yeah.

Matt: I think it'll grow on you, Micah.

Micah: No, I don't think so, man...

Matt: Just have some faith.

Micah: I don't think I'd continue on with this show if that was the case.

Matt: Ungh, well...I can't...I can't fire you, so we're going to have to talk to Andrew about that.

Micah: Yeah, you definitely will. I'm not putting up with that stuff. It's absolutely...

Laura: Well, will you...

Micah: ...stupid.

Laura: Will you stay on through the end of this episode at least?

Micah: Yeah, maybe, I mean I don't know. Maybe I'll just drop out in the middle since you guys aren't taking this very seriously anymore.

Matt: No, don't do that. Please?

Laura: No, we really are taking it seriously, Micah.

Matt: Come on.

Laura: Gosh.

Micah: Just unbelievable. You guys have no dedication whatsoever.

Matt: That's - All right, let's not get into this.

Muggle Mail: Box Sets

Laura: Yeah, you know what? I'm sick of this. We need to move on. All right? So we are going to move on to some Mugglenet - Muggle Mail.

Matt: Our last Muggle Mail.

Laura: Yeah. Aw. Well, we might still do one or two more Muggle Mails.

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: In the spirit of it.

Jamie: Spidermail.

[Laura laughs]

Matt: Spiderwebmail.

Jamie: Obi One mail. [laughs] Spiderwebmail.

[Laura laughs]

Matt: Okay, Laura, you want to get the first one done?

Laura: Yeah. Sure, The first one comes from Shannon. She says:

"In Episode 138 you guys were talking about box sets and to what extent people bought the books and movies in box sets. I think a very important thing to remember is the people currently reading the books and watching the movies: kids and their parents. By the time the last movies and books come out, the kids who sat with their mommies and daddies to read "Harry Potter" will be growing up. A lot of them will be going off to college, and who will get to keep all the "Harry Potter" books and movies? Mom and dad or the kids? So somebody is going to have to buy them all over again. The same goes for siblings. When there is one set of movies per household, and there are two kids in the family and one moves away, who gets to keep the movies? It happened to me when my older brother, who I shared the series with, moved to Washington D.C. He kept the old set, and I got a brand spanking new box set." Well, Shannon...

Jamie: That is true.

Laura: ...what I did before I left for college was I just ripped all of my DVDs off onto my computer, and then I...

Jamie: That's cool. Piracy.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Mhm.

Jamie: Good. Awesome.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: We always support that here at MuggleCast.

Jamie: The thing is...

Matt: Of course.

Laura: I didn't rip Harry Potter though. Don't worry, Warner Brothers. I wouldn't do that.

Jamie: Yeah, but to be honest, they own everything, so uh...

Laura: Yeah. [laughs] That's true.

[Matt laughs]

Jamie: So you can't really rip a movie and not cause them to lose twelve pounds, but...

[Matt laughs]

Jamie: I don't want a brand spanking new box set because their new covers, especially here in the U.K., I don't know if they are new over there, but they have these crappy stars on them. It's all sort of like New Age and, you know, fantasy-ish, and it's awful.

Laura: Yeah! They add stuff to the covers that you can't take off, and it sucks.

Jamie: Yeah. I want an old style Harry Potter book. Old school. Not the new ones.

Matt: Well, they're doing that with the movie covers too.

Jamie: [groans] What's wrong with them?

Matt: They have these banners on the original Harry Potter DVDs. It's like these little Celtic-style bands around the edges of it. It's - I don't know. I'm kind of mixed on that too.

Laura: Yeah. I don't know...

Matt: Why do they have to mess with it? Seriously.

Laura: [sighs] You know, I don't know. Maybe to grab people's attention? But the way I think about it, it is not just people who need doubles of it that are going to buy it. I mean there are so many people who are fans of books like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Narnia, and they collect this kind of stuff. There are people who will go out and buy these box sets of books and movies, and they will never open them.

Jamie: It's true.

Laura: They'll just have them to sit on a shelf, and there's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing wrong with collecting, but that's mainly why they do it, because there are a lot of collectors out there.

Matt: For a collector's standpoint, and I agree with that.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: But everyone's got it. The box sets with the new books, everyone's got them, haven't they?

Laura: No.

Jamie: No, but I mean like it's not rare. I can understand collectors getting like a first addition Half Blood Prince or whatever, but a box set? It's a box set for a reason, because there's nothing special inside.

Matt: But they...

Jamie: I realize that's a bit cold hearted, but, you know.

Matt: Well, with just Harry Potter books in general, they don't just sell a box set of the books, they also sell a Hogwarts carrying case with it too. I think that's what a lot of the fans like to do too is just to buy the extra features that come with it. Which is why like a lot of companies release like two disc ultimate platinum ultimate special edition DVDs...

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: ...with an extra bookcase that comes with the DVD or an extra DVD comes with it.

Jamie: Yeah. That's true.

Matt: So I think definitely the special edition that comes with it.

Jamie: Which is annoying, Matt, because I searched for Family Guy the other day, because I wanted to buy the DVD, because it's an awesome show, isn't it?

Matt: Oh, of course.

Jamie: But there are like four million different box sets. And one's like a hundred dollars and one's like a hundred and one dollars, and there's new stuff in each of them. Like one had poker chips, and I was like well, poker chips would be cool, but it's a bit of a gimmick. I just want Family Guy, but then I thought well, perhaps I should get the poker chips since I'm buying the box set anyway, and what's another twenty dollars when you're spending, you know?

Matt: That's...

Jamie: It caused me a lot of grief.

Matt: ...exactly what they're doing too. That's their whole intention is for you to think...

Jamie: I know.

Matt: well, it's only ten more dollars for this.

Jamie: I felt like a guinea pig. Yeah.

Matt: You're conforming to the man.

Jamie: I know. I just feel like I'm lost now. I'm lost. I just wander this earth.

[Jamie and Matt laugh]

Jamie: I have no idea what my place in this world is.

Laura: You're just a pawn in the game of life I guess.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Since we're trying to keep Jamie on the show, Jamie why don't you read the next Muggle Mail?

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