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MuggleCast 140 Transcript

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Jim Dale: [As Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you all enjoyed - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [As Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!

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Micah: Because you have to admit last week some of you got punk'd, this is MuggleCast Episode 140 for April 5th, 2008.

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Andrew: All right, well I think we fooled a lot of people last week with the April Fool's joke. April Fool's, everyone.

[Matt and Andrew laugh]

Andrew: You see, here's the other thing. Then once I leave the show, which is very tragic for some people - they can't stand not having The Andrew Sims on the show...

Jamie: I thought it was fun, Matt, didn't you?

Matt: Yeah, I had a blast. I thought it was perfect.

Jamie: Me too. I thought it was an amazing show.

Micah: Yeah, Jamie. I agree. Yeah.

Andrew: All you guys do is you make fun of me. Why do I get made fun of every time I leave?

Jamie: Because you're our glorious leader.

Andrew: It turns into a mock Andrew fest.

Matt: That's what everyone does when the boss is out of the office. Everyone makes fun of him.

Jamie: Yeah. See? Imitation is the highest form of flattery, Andrew. Don't you know that?

Matt: Yeah, and dang man, if that wasn't a huge flattering compliment, too.

Jamie: It was.

Andrew: Yeah. Right, but our April Fool's joke scared a lot of people. We got a lot of e-mails from people saying, "Oh, my gosh. No, no you can't do this! You can't do this! Stop!" And then some people really enjoyed - really welcomed the idea. They said, "You know what? This could work."

Matt: A lot of people prided themselves for calling on it, too, which I thought was pretty funny. Well, I mean everyone knew it was a joke and so they kept e-mailing, "Haha! You guys didn't fool me. I knew."

Andrew: Right, right.

Matt: I thought that was... [laughs]

Andrew: What annoyed me was some people were like, "I'm 100% sure this is a joke." You're not a 100% sure.

Eric: Then why would they be e-mailing us?

Andrew: Right. I didn't understand that.

Eric: To tell us that, you know...

Andrew: Anyway, we have a big show to get to. We're going to hit up a couple of chapters in Chapter-by-Chapter and things. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matthew Britton.

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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum's in the MuggleCast News Center with the past week's top Harry Potter news stories. Hey, Micah.

Micah: All right. Thanks, Andrew. The London Times reported earlier this week that "writing by Anthony Horowitz, Philip Pullman and J. K. Rowling will appear in The Birthday Book to be published by The Prince's Foundation for Children & the Arts to mark the Prince of Wales' 60th birthday." We'll let you know as soon as we have more information.

The Ministry of Magic released a statement earlier this week condemning the acts of ex-Minister for Magic Cornelius Fudge. Mr. Fudge initially had a tracker placed on him after it was found he was moving massive amounts of galleons from a high-security vault in Gringotts to a private account in the Cayman Islands. It has been discovered that Mr. Fudge used the money to pay for "special services" he received in both the Leaky Cauldron and the Three Broomsticks from a wild band of Veelas. While the representatives from Azkaban did not allow comment from the ex-politician, former aide to the Minister Percival Weasley had this to say: "Oh, I thought he just liked getting out of the Ministry from time to time." Fudge is best known for his stupidity in not believing in the return of Lord Voldemort.

Earlier this year, J.K. Rowling was awarded by University College Dublin with the James Joyce award. On accepting the award, Jo spoke to hundreds of fans and a full transcript is available on In it she talks about how Snape and Dumbledore were the two most important characters in the series aside from the trio.

And after years of tending to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, everyone's favorite half-giant is making a name for himself on television. Are You Smarter Than Rubeus Hagrid? airs every Wednesday night at 9 p.m. eastern on FOX. Host Jeff Foxworthy said the show is a great success and is nearing the viewership of hit reality TV show American Idol. While the contestants tend to outwit Hagrid on the Question and Answer section, the hands-on portion of the show, where they are asked to tame a Blast-Ended Skrewt, usually show that Rubeus ain't as dumb as he looks.

And finally, the younger brother of world-renowned wizard Albus Dumbledore was arrested earlier this week outside the Hog's Head for his involvement in an underground illegal goat trafficking ring. Madam Rosmerta noticed an alarming number of goats walking limply around Hogsmeade one afternoon and decided to alert the Ministry. It was later discovered that the goats who failed to show Aberforth considerable attention were fated to enter an outside pen, which served as a holding area until they were taken underground at night and had various charms performed on them. The Ministry seized what looked to be plans for an underground goat fighting league. A rather irritated Aberforth said it was his way of showing them "tough love," and the animals spoke to him in a way humans never could.

That's all the news for this April 5th, 2008 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Andrew: All right, thanks, Micah.

Micah: All right. You're welcome, man.

Andrew: So, besides the, like, ten April Fool's posts, dude, that you came up with - you came up with most of those. A round of applause for Micah Tannenbaum.

[Everyone claps and whistles]

Eric: Micah Tan. Micah Tan the Anchorman.

Micah: What were you going to say, Jamie?

Jamie: I was going to say you have a fascination with goats that comes over and above the normal...

[Micah laughs]

Jamie: ...fascination with goats that most people have.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Is there a reason for this? A small something that happened as a child, perhaps?

Micah: No comment.

Jamie: Okay.

Eric: Micah was raised by goats.

News Discussion: Intercollegiate Quidditch

Andrew: All right, so one of the stories to talk about tonight. MTVU did a story on intercollegiate Quidditch, and what it is, is these colleges versus each other playing Quidditch on the ground. They all have a broom, they're all holding onto the broom. They have to pretend like they're sitting on it, and they're running around the field, and it's been getting a lot of press lately. It was on CBS Morning News, of course MTVU had a really good spot on it. What do you guys think of this? Did you see the reports on this, and do you think it could be like a growing trend? Because like MTVU did a story of Princeton versus - what was the other school?

Micah: I know Middlebury started it all.

Andrew: Yeah, that was it. Princeton versus Middlebury.

Eric: That's really cool.

Jamie: It's not going to take off, though.

Andrew: Is this a growing trend? Is this going to going to be the next... [laughs]

Jamie: It's not going to take off, though.

Eric: No, it's not...

Andrew: You don't think so?

Eric: ...going to take off unless they get jet-propelled brooms.

Micah: Awww....

Jamie: Well, yeah, I was going to say, when - surely levitation is going to happen in the future. It's just going to be a technology that we haven't discovered yet, and when it does, there's going to be some Harry Potter fan who's a professor of aviation or something at some leading university...

Eric: Developing the anti-gravitational broom.

Jamie: ...and he's going to put it into broomsticks and stuff, yeah. And then we'll see it, but it just seems like a fake rip-off at the moment, doing it on the ground.

Eric: Oh, no, no, no, no. Not at all. Have you ever played land Quidditch?

Jamie: No.

Eric: It's fun.

Jamie: I'm not likely to, either.

Eric: It's - you know, Jamie, I mean, I was - we met up when I was on Harry Potter Fan Trips, but the very next day I think we went to Royal Navy College in Greenwich, and Beyond Boundaries Travel running the trip had gotten the USA Team Handball Association to literally write rules for ground Quidditch.

Jamie: That is pretty cool. That is pretty cool.

Eric: Yeah, and so they had guys who actually, you know, who actually run these sports come up with the size-distance of the hoops, all sorts of things, and we developed land Quidditch for Harry Potter fan trips. And, you know, we played water Quidditch at Lumos. You guys remember that?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: That was pretty fun, wasn't it?

Andrew: But the question is - yeah, it was fun.

Eric: So, I mean, I don't know if it's catching, but land Quidditch happens to be a very fun sport to play.

Andrew: But - so the thing is, could this be - I just want to know if this is going to be a growing thing.

Micah: Yes. I think it will.

Andrew: Because all of a sudden there's all this press for it. Yes, Micah? Talk, Micah. Tell me, Micah.

Micah: Here's the reason why: you already have at least eight schools that have picked this thing up, because it said that Middlebury was traveling to eight different schools during their spring break. So one would assume that more than eight schools are doing it, and I think it will probably become, at least at first, more of a club sport. A lot of schools will start to gather the funds necessary to have these teams travel. I mean I don't know kind of behind the scenes how they raised money to go from one place to the other, but one would think that over time it's going to grow, it's going to catch on if people continue to do it. And...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: So people will be fundraising to get their team to go to - and there will be like the - well, Micah, you work for arena football, don't you? I mean, will there be like, arena Quidditch? Do you think?

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Oh, come on. No. [laughs]

Eric: I mean this is - it's a fair question.

Andrew: I - okay, I think WB would have something to say about that.

Eric: Arena land Quidditch. I think seriously - I think Jo should secure the rights to USA team handball, or whoever wants to run an arena Quidditch.

Jamie: [laughs] There's no way that's going to take off in a million years!

Eric: Well, you know it's going to happen because all the school children - what do you want to be when you grow up? I want to be an athlete.

Jamie: I want to be an astronaut! I want to be an astronaut! I want to be a firefighter! I want to be all the things that my grandfather wanted to be.

Andrew: I want to be a policeman.

Eric: Be a land Quidditch player! Because they're - that's the only - it'll be the only sport without drugs involved.

Micah: ESPN, though, did an article, I think we posted on MuggleNet maybe about a year or so ago, on Quidditch, so I don't see why. I mean, look, I can list a number of things on ESPN that you could say, "why do they have this on their programming?" I mean, darts, bowling, you know. You were talking about a handball league, Eric, earlier, there's like a world kickball association, a world dodge ball association.

Eric: Oh, lacrosse.

Micah: Well, lacrosse is a little bit higher up, I think. But, you know...

Andrew: It is.

Micah: You just think about all these things that nobody would actually consider to be sports twenty years ago, and now they've just come on strong, and it's...

Eric: Like Olympic level crunching.

Andrew: I think that's - you know, you have a good point.

Micah: If you take the game and change it to be a little bit more...

Jamie: T.V. worthy.

Micah: Yeah, in the sense that you don't have some guy running around the field with, you know, a snitch attached to him.

Andrew: A snitch hanging off his butt.

Micah: Or whatever the case may be.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: If you just make it a little bit more engaging for people and, you know, kind of change the rules around a little bit, it won't be classical Quidditch as we know it from the Harry Potter series, but it'll be a form of it. I mean, I'm sure that eventually, you know, it'll take off.

Andrew: This is bringing out audiences. If you look on the MTV report, there were big crowds coming out. I mean, it's a good sell, you know. "Oh, come watch us play Quidditch, it's in Harry Potter, guys!"

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: "Come watch us play!" So.

Eric: It's definitely got the press.

News Discussion: J.K. Rowling Receives James Joyce Award

Andrew: Moving on to some other news, J.K. Rowling won a James Joyce award back, I guess, what was this Micah, like last week or something? Or last month?

Micah: Well, now it would be last month, yeah.

Matt: Recently.

Andrew: Yeah. Recently. [laughs] Fair point. The transcript from her acceptance was released, and she had a couple of interesting things to say about the books. A couple of them I thought we could talk about. For one, she said she'd like to go back and tighten up Order of the Phoenix. Tighten that big thing up. I don't know.

Jamie: It ceases to be Order of the Phoenix when she changes it, like - do you know what I mean? It'd have to be Order of the Phoenix Part II.

Eric: Yeah, it really does.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: You can't just - I mean, obviously, it's up to her, but I just don't think that you can go back and add to it or take stuff away, because then it's just version two, version 2.1, you know, it's not how she originally wrote Harry Potter.

Andrew: Right, right.

Eric: I'm with you there, Jamie.

Andrew: Yeah, I don't understand that because I thought the thing used to be that she didn't like Goblet of Fire, she always wishes she went back to re-write Goblet of Fire.

Eric: Yeah, because she was rushed. She felt rushed on that.

Jamie: She said that about all of them, though. Or like, most of them.

Andrew: Right, yeah. And then she said she felt rushed for Order of the Phoenix, too. So...

Eric: Oh, no she didn't, she took her time on Order of the Phoenix. Oh, but do you mean now she said that she felt rushed?

Andrew: No, but she did. She just said, in this interview, she said that she felt pressure and a bit rushed. So she wants to go back and edit and tighten it up.

Eric: That's sort of strange, really. But...

Andrew: It is surprising. It goes back on what she's said in the past.

Eric: All I know is that the first three books had all come out, you know, a year apart or whatever, and then Book 4 did the same except, you know, after that she said never again, and they made the first two movies before another book came out, 'cause Book 4 was significantly longer and she had to do it in the same amount of time. So...

Andrew: Micah, you'll appreciate this, one other thing she said was one of the big challenges was not being able to apparate in and out of Hogwarts, and she said, "I was quite proud of Aberforth, again the tunnel. I like Aberforth and his goat."

Eric: I was...

Andrew: Do you like Aberforth and his goat, Micah?

Micah: [laughs] You know, I think this is just further proof of the connection that exists between me and J.K. Rowling.

Jamie: It's true.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] Why? 'Cause you bug her, and then she makes updates, and you also like jokes?

Jamie: That's pretty much it, yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: And she goes out of her way to, you know, support goats and the goat cause, and Micah's sort of...yeah.

Jamie: On the subject of - sorry.

Micah: Goats?

Jamie: No, no. Well, no, I was going to say on James Joyce, have any of you tried to read his second book, Finnegan's Wake? Well, not - it's counted as a huge and important piece of English literature, but if you read the first page - I can link you guys to it - it's insane. It's absolutely insane. It's impossible to read. So, yeah...

[Eric laughs]

Jamie: ...try and read it, it's just - I don't know how it can be classed as great English literature. Perhaps I'm just not up to scratch on this, but I don't know.

Eric: Well, you know the Britons did a lot with time period. A lot of the dialect, and uh...

Matt: Will you stop saying [pronounces "Bri-tawns"], Eric? You're making...

Jamie: You sound like you're talking about Matt's family.

Matt: Yeah. [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Eric: No. Dude, I'm talking about...

Jamie: [pronounces correctly "Bri-tins"] Britons.

Eric: ...the British people of yesteryear.

Matt: [pronounces correctly] Britons.

Eric: Oh, the Britons, but then it sounds like...

Jamie: British people.

Eric: ...that I'm saying A-I-N-S, but okay. The British people. All I'm saying is that literature that was written four hundred years ago is significantly different. I mean, if you look at, even - even more recently, even Charles Dickens would write with the language of the day, right?

Jamie: No, no...

Eric: Is that correct?

Jamie: ...but, seriously, read this page. It's insane.

Eric: [laughs] It's exceptionally.

Jamie: It is very difficult.

Andrew: Yeah, lastly, she also mentioned - she talked more about Dumbledore being gay, but really it was more of the same. You know, just that, "it doesn't matter that he's gay, it's just, you know," so it was nothing new, really.

[Jamie laughs]

Matt: He's not a gay character. He's a character that happens to be gay.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Who happens to be gay. No, that's exactly right. I mean that's what everyone says...

Jamie: It's a great way of putting it.

Andrew: ...including Jo. Yeah.

Eric: So, why are you guys laughing? Seriously?

Matt: Because I'm just so awesome in that way, Eric. I make everyone laugh.

Andrew: But that's really all that happened in the news this week besides all of our awesome April's Fools stories. New pictures of Emma Watson, too. You boys likey?

Jamie: Where, where, where, where?

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: [imitates Jamie] "Where, where, where, where?"

Eric: I wonder if Ben's seen this. This is a nice new picture.

Andrew: New press pictures. Yeah, it seems kind of random, and Emma even said it was a Warner Brothers shoot, so everyone was like "Oh, new photos of Hermione," but it's Emma.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: She looks great.

Jamie: Does she?

Eric: Well, when does her film come out? Ballet Shoes? When does that...

Andrew: That's been out.

Eric: Is that out?

Andrew: Hasn't that been out, Eric or Matt?

Matt: Yeah, it's been out.

Andrew: Yeah. Thought so. Yeah, so uh...

Eric: God, I missed...

Andrew: ...some stunning new pictures of Miss Watson.

[Jamie laughs]

Micah: Only wearing ballet shoes?

Andrew: Whoa!

Eric: No.

[Eric and Jamie laugh]

Andrew: This is - see, we get e-mails. This is why we get e-mails. [in a high pitched voice] "You guys are so immature...

[Eric and Micah laugh]

Andrew: ...why don't you guys grow up and be like Pottercast?"

Micah: No, dude, I'm just perverted. That's the bottom line, you know? There's no which way about it.

Eric: Yeah, I saw that picture of you and the goats in only ballet shoes, Micah. [laughs]

Jamie: What? Micah or the goats wearing...

Andrew: Guys, you're being immature, guys. Come on. You're not allowed to have fun.

Matt: Well, these photo shoots from Warner Brothers have to be something besides Harry Potter, because they only shot Emma Watson.

Jamie: It's true. It's true.

Andrew: That is true. That is true.

Announcement: Vote for MuggleCast

Andrew: That's it for news this week. Let's move onto some announcements. Hey, it's a new month, so vote for us at Podcast Alley. Just go to, click on MuggleCast, and place your vote for us. We reigned supreme last month, and this month we're not doing so good. We're at the number five spot right now, so...

Matt: Oh, shoot. I haven't voted yet.

Micah: I'll go vote right now.

Andrew: Oh, well get voting.

Jamie: Oh well, that's going to make all the difference, Matthew. [laughs]

Andrew: Hey, every vote counts!

Matt: Thanks for your sarcasm, Jamie.

Andrew: So vote for us this month. It is MuggleCast Mapril, which means you do have to vote for us. Any month beginning with an M we have to win, so of course we won March. Thank you, seriously, thank you, everyone, who did vote for us last month, put us in the number one spot.

Eric: Thank you.

Andrew: It's just a fun little thing to do on the side.

Matt: Yeah. No, it was really nice. I liked it.

Announcement: Amazon Unspun

Andrew: Thanks. Yeah, me too. Thanks for your support, and vote for us this week, or this month, because it is MuggleCast Mapril. Also, I'm sort of experimenting with this new thing on right now. I posted about it on April 2. Amazon does this thing called Amazon Unspun, and, basically, you make a poll topic and then people submit their answers, and then people can either vote for answers from fellow listeners or they can make their own answer. So I did one called Discussion for MuggleCast, and people are currently adding ideas for segments or discussion topics for the show. I thought it'd be a good way to get the listeners involved, so if you guys just check that out over at There's a link to the Unspun page. Right now the number one thing being voted on is for us to finish Chapter-by-Chapter. Of course we are going to finish that.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: And then number two is to go back to old shows and see what predictions were correct and what were way off.

Eric: Oh.

Andrew: It's a good idea, but...

Jamie: [laughs] That won't be fun.

Andrew: Yeah, but it would take a lot of work going back.

Eric: "Last year on MuggleCast."

Andrew: Number three is movie commentary, which we would love to do eventually.

Matt: I'm really, really excited to do that. I really - that would...

Jamie: That would be fun. That would be fun.

Andrew: We just need to get everyone together, I think. I don't know. And so there are some other ideas there. There's 56 items now and over 1200 votes, and 109 people participating, so definitely check that out if you want to help contribute and give us some ideas for the show.

Matt: Yeah.

Announcement: Hiring Transcribers

Micah: I have just one announcement this week concerning the transcripts. I know some of you have noticed that I have been getting a little bit behind,because I have been having a lot of work to do, and part of the way that we're going to try and fix that is by hiring some more people, so we want to give everybody out there, the listeners, the opportunity to send their applications in, and you can do that by sending an e-mail over to mugglecastnews at gmail dot com. And one thing that we're going to stipulate this time is that you have some sort of English studies background, that you are familiar with grammar and spelling and all that fun stuff, because that plays a huge role in doing the transcripts every week. And the other thing that's important to remember is that you have the time, commitment to be able to do this. It's probably going to take a couple hours out of your schedule each week to do a couple minutes of the show, so it's really important that people have the time and dedication to put in as well as have a good understanding of the show itself, who the hosts are, as well as the series, considering that a lot of the terms and phrases that get used are directly from the books. So that's really all I have to say about that. We will get back to people as quickly as possible, probably within a week and have people starting as soon as Episode 141 or 142. So the people that we've had so far have been doing a great job, it's just I've taken a while because of work to get around to editing and to posting the final transcript up online, but we do need some more people, probably about between five and ten, and we do look forward to all the applications that do get sent in. And again those can go to mugglecastnews at gmail dot com.

Announcement: Create Your Own MuggleCast Segment Returns

Matt: And actually also I have an announcement as well. Mugglecast is bringing back an old segment, guys, back from way back, from 2006 actually called Create Your Own MuggleCast Segment. For those of you who are unfamiliar with it, it's a contest where you will be able to make your very own MuggleCast segment, and it will be aired on, where else, but MuggleCast. So here's what you do: you plan your segment, you gather your content, you assign your hosts - you know, you get your friends together and all that - and you record the show, and you then edit it all together. So pretty much you do everything, and then you send it to us. The segment can be no longer than seven minutes, and the topic must relate to Harry Potter books, movies, fan culture or anything else related to Harry Potter. So, you know, sorry, guys, but no Twilight stuff. The segments will be judged on creativity of the topic, the presentation and host personalities. The deadline for your segment must be turned in no later than April 20 at 11:59 PM Eastern Standard Time. The winners will be announced on April 22 or whenever the show will be up on that weekend. So here is what you win: the third place winners receive a fifteen dollar gift certificate courtesy of Alivan's. The second place winner, you get a twenty-five dollar gift certificate. And the big prize, first place, you get a fifty dollar gift certificate. Each gift certificate can be used for anything Alivan's has to offer including hand-made magic wands, robes, house sweaters, ties, etc., etc. And of course the top three winners will also have their segments aired on an episode of the show. Oh, one more thing to add: please, guys, compress it to an mp3 format of high quality. You can either e-mail your file as an attachment or send a link to mcsegment at gmail dot com. All of this will be posted on the website as well, so if you didn't get everything I just said, don't worry about it, and if you have any questions, please e-mail them to me at matt at staff dot mugglenet dot com! So, yeah, good luck to all of you that enter.

Announcement: Twilight Set Report

Andrew: Moving along, one thing that was not an April Fools' joke last week was that I went to the set of Twilight, and my set report is now online on garth...[laughs]...on

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew:! I'll put a link on because I know we've been converting a lot of you guys - I mean not converting - but we've been getting a lot of you guys into the Twilight books.

Jamie: Oh, I love Twilight.

Andrew: Jamie, you are not getting into it?

Jamie: I haven't read it, so I am prejudging it completely.

Matt: No, he's still a hater, man. Last week he was hating on me for doing it. "Oh no, Matt! Why would you do Twilight?"

Andrew: I know.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I think you would like it, Jamie. I really think you would like it.

Jamie: But - but, it's - but isn't it just the same thing being done again?

Andrew: No, it's different! It's different and if you read my report, you'd see that Robert Pattinson even thinks it's different.

Eric: Because the vampires have Porsches.

Jamie: They've got Porsches? Yeah, but isn't that like Blade, when the like...

Eric: [laughs] It's like Blade...

Jamie: Well, it is like Blade.

Eric: Except he had weird things going on with his mom.

Jamie: He did have weird things going on with her, but, Matt, do the thing. Do the annoying thing about it.

Matt: What? Oh! [fangirl voice] "Oh my god, Edward Cullen is my 'shipper for life. I have such a crush on fictional characters. Edward Cullen is my lover."

Jamie: Sirius is fine, Sirius is fine. Edward Cullen, though?

Matt: Well, yeah, I guess. [laughs] You haven't read the books, Jamie, so you can't have a good opinion on this.

Jamie: No, it's true, it's true. I will read them, actually. It's bad to prejudge. It's bad to prejudge.

Eric: Okay, okay, so, Andrew, we know Robert Pattinson. Who else is in the movie that we might know? Do you know?

Andrew: No one really. It's really, like, a cheap film. No, I'm kidding. [laughs]

Eric: Oh, okay. That's cool though. Lots of fresh faces.

Andrew: Yeah, there's a lot of fresh faces. And I have to say it really is a good portrayal of the books, and they're really serious about making sure that it reflects the books well.

Eric: Yeah, like Eragon. I heard that about Eragon.

Andrew: Unlike Harry Potter and Eragon. No, but they are really careful and when I was there, even the author Stephenie Meyers was there on set, and she's been there the whole week just observing. She's really into the idea of her book being converted into a movie. Kristen Stewart is playing the main character, Bella Swan. Then, of course, Robert Pattinson, that hottie in Goblet of Fire.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: He's playing Edward Cullen.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: And Order of the Phoenix, Andrew. You know he was in Order of the Phoenix, right?

Andrew: Yeah, but, you know, those were those recycled scenes. It really is a great cast. I mean they're not well-known actors, but...

Matt: I love Kristen Stewart. She's a really good actress.

Andrew: What else has she been in, Matt, for anyone who doesn't know?

Matt: She was in the Panic Room with Jodie Foster.

Eric: Oh my god, she was the daughter!

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: She was!

Matt: [mocking Eric] You're so right!

Eric: I am so seeing this movie now. Now that I've made that connection.

Matt: She was in Jumper, she was in The Messengers, she was...

Andrew: Into the Wild.

Matt: Catch That Kid, I think it was.

Andrew: I'm not going to draw on this because this is obviously a Harry Potter podcast, but I want to find a way to - 'cause I know there's - I'm going to start my own Twilight podcast. That's what I'm going to do.

Jamie: Andrew, it's not difficult. Just talk about it. Stop making it a big deal.

[Everyone laughs]

Eric: Yeah, yeah, exactly, I mean...

Andrew: All right, fine, fine, if you guys will give me permission. Twilight is going to be a really good film and I had a lot of fun on set. They were actually - they were in Portland, Oregon - actually, Oregon, where the film actually takes place. They actually are even going to Forks, Washington, where it actually takes place.

Eric: That's pretty crazy.

Andrew: I mean, you know, you look at Harry Potter, they don't actually go to Hogwarts. But this film...

Jamie: Well, that would be a bit hard.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Actually goes - what? What? I don't see the problem. This film goes to where the book actually takes place, which is really cool. Jamie, let me ask you something.

Jamie: Yup. [laughs]

Andrew: You're going to run off and you're probably going to go spend money on Twilight, right?

Jamie: [laughs] No, I'm going to steal it.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No, no, no. Come on.

Matt: Just go with it, Jamie.

Andrew: Just go with it.

Jamie: Okay, yes. I am going to buy it.

Andrew: What if I told you you could get it for free on What if I told you that?

Jamie: That is an offer.

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Jamie: But then I won't be able to think how dreamy Edward Cullen's voice is in my head. I have to hear someone else saying it and that just spoils the magic.

Matt: No, it's really great because I've actually listened to it and it's actually a woman who does the audiobook, and so it's pretty much like Bella talking inside her head...

Jamie: Oh.

Matt: Because it's from Bella's point of view, so you're like hearing Bella's reasons why she loves Edward Cullen so much.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: So you're like inside Bella's head, Jamie.

Andrew: Actually, I do have to say the free deal from MuggleCast gets you a credit towards Twilight because the Twilight book is actually two credits. You get one with this deal through MuggleCast. So you're halfway there. Over 35,000 other titles to choose from for free.

Matt: Hey!

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