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Muggle Mail: Entering the Room of Requirement

Matt: Okay, our next e-mail comes from Danielle, 15, of Indianapolis, Indiana. Danielle writes:

"Hi! I was listening to Episode 145 and you were discussing what would happen if someone would try to enter the Room of Requirement while it was in use. This happened in "Half-Blood Prince" when Draco was in it and Trelawney tried to enter. In page 541 of the U.S. edition, Trelawney explains how she had gotten in, but as soon as she asked who was there, everything turned pitch black, and she was hurled from the room. Since we know Malfoy was in there, this probably means that once Trelawney entered, Malfoy wanted her gone. So the room threw her out. So we know that it is possible to gain access to the room, even that if its in use. You just have to know what to think. Keep up the great work. Danielle."

Muggle Mail: Lupin-Tonks Wedding

Andrew: There's some more clarification. Thank you, Danielle! Next e-mail comes from Autumn, 19, of New Jersey. She writes about the Lupin-Tonks wedding.

"The rumor comes from the MuggleNet editorial 'For the Greater Good - Lessons for "Deathly Hallows" from "Lord of the Rings"'. I actually really like the idea of putting the wedding and Shell Cottage on Tonks and Lupin if they won't be bringing back Fleur and bringing in Bill. This also makes their deaths during the battle of Hogwarts much more effective because we've spent more time with them in the movie. They haven't just been passing characters that people who have not read the books don't know. There are people who didn't remember Lupin from Movie 3 to 5. This way the non-readers are reacquainted with them and get to know more about them and develop some attachment to them and their new baby."

Laura: That's interesting.

Andrew: Yeah.

Muggle Mail: Luna's Foreshadowing

Laura: The last e-mail for today comes from Ariana, 18, of California, and she says:

"Hey guys, first of all, I would like to say that I love listening to this show on my computer during AP study time. It always makes boring study time fun. Anyway, I was watching "Order of the Phoenix" the other day, and I came across the scene where Luna tells Harry, after Sirius dies, and he, Harry, asked if she needed any help finding shoes, and she replies, 'That's alright. Anyway, my mum always said things we lose have a way of coming back to us in the end if not always in the way we expect.' Do you think this foreshadowed what happens in "Deathly Hallows," where James, Lily, Sirius, and Remus come back through the Resurrection Stone? Please give me your opinion, and I love you."

Matt: Awww.

Laura: Awww, that's so sweet.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: I don't know. What do you guys think about that?

Andrew: I think it's a good idea.

Laura: Yeah, I think it's nice. They kind of, sort of - they somewhat paraphrased that from her quote in the book, where she said - it was something along the lines of like, "it's not as though I'll never see her again." You know, so I feel like they were just kind of shortening that line up a bit.

Andrew: Yeah, I guess.

Matt: Yeah, well, people were asking, too, if that whole Sirius and Harry talk in the film of Prisoner of Azkaban when he said, "And you'll always find them in here," and he went to - he pushed Harry's chest. And a lot of people thought that was the foreshadowing of Deathly Hallows when he was talking about his family or something.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Do you remember that...

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Matt: ...rumor?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: So, this is probably the - you know, around the same, you know, situation too.

Chapter-by-Chapter: Chapter 30, "The Sacking of Severus Snape"

Andrew: So, let's move along now to Chapter-by-Chapter. This week we are going to be discussing Chapter 30, "The Sacking of Severus Snape." Micah, you left us sort of on a cliffhanger last week because you had said that this chapter had one of your favorite scenes. Is that what you said?

Micah: I did say that, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, so I'm excited to know what exactly is your favorite part about this, because it's rare you actually get excited about something these days. You're usually just complaining.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Micah: Yeah, you know you're right. And it was awesome getting to read this scene again. I actually read it this morning. But do you want me to talk about it right now or do you want me to mention it when we actually get to it?

Andrew: Yeah, mention it when we actually get to it.

Micah: Okay.

Andrew: I just wanted to hear a little positivity come out of you for once.

[Micah laughs]

Comic Luna

Andrew: So the chapter starts off with Luna just, you know, saving Harry by quickly stunning Alecto Carrow, which could be a very funny movie scene.

Matt: Does anybody besides me think Alecto is a male name?

Laura: Yeah, it does sound rather masculine, doesn't it?

Andrew: Mainly because it ends in "o."

Matt: Yeah, Spanish words, "o" is more of a masculine vowel.

Andrew: It should be Alecta.

Matt: Yeah. Hm...

Laura: Alecto was one of the Greek Furies in Mythology.

Andrew: There you go. J.K. Rowling loves her Greek.

Matt: Mhm.

Micah: The reason that I put that in their about it being pretty funny is, I think Luna just funny in this chapter in general, just kind of her attitude overall towards thing. It's not very serious what's going on; she just kind of goes about it - everything matter-of-factly.

Matt: Well, I can see what you mean about it being funny in the film too. You can see Alecto getting stunned going across the room, and Harry just turns his head and there's Luna with her vacant expression with her wand in the air going, "Wow, that made a louder noise than I expected it."

Micah: Yeah, exactly. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. I mean, but that's Luna's character in general. She's always so out there that she never really takes anything seriously.

Matt: Well, I think she does take it seriously, I just don't think she's passionate when she expresses it. She's not very out and open.

Laura: She's just a very tranquil person.

Matt: Yeah!

Why is it so Easy to Get Into the Ravenclaw Common Room?

Andrew: So, more on the Ravenclaw common room, gaining access to it. Last week I was saying, why - how is it possible for Harry to get in so easily? And now, in this chapter, McGonagall gets in no problem. She does it by answering a question just like Harry did, and this was also really funny because the way - because the door says it was nicely phrased and then opens up.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: Swung open. How can she get in - why can she get in so easily?

Micah: That's the million dollar question. I mean, the reason Harry was able to get in was because he had Luna. Just this idea that anybody, though, with half a brain, right? I mean, if you can reason well enough and I'm sure there are plenty of students in other Houses or even adults, in this case, who would look to get in. Obviously, Amicus is pretty much an idiot as we come to learn in this chapter, and he doesn't have the brains to get in there, but think about somebody a little bit more powerful in terms of Death Eaters - maybe even Voldemort himself...

Matt: Mhm.

Micah: ...would be able to reason and answer to this question, and to me that just seems a little bit too easy, and the same can be said of just a regular password to get access to a common room, but that's a little bit more difficult unless you are told the password yourself.

Andrew: I guess the other question is, is there really an important reason for the common rooms to be really secure? You know what I mean?

Matt: I guess not. It's not...

Laura: I mean just in terms - sorry, Matt, go ahead.

Matt: No, go ahead.

Laura: I was just going to say, in terms of safety. I mean things - it does seem a bit weird that they didn't change the rules for the passwords to the common room after Voldemort's rise, but it would seem like that during times of peace and tranquility, no one would really be that concerned, because the worst thing that you would have happen would be someone would break into a common room that wasn't theirs.

Andrew: Right, right.

Laura: So - but yeah, it does seem a little irregular that it was done this way.

Matt: But to me, I think that the Ravenclaw common room entrance - I think it's almost just as protective if not more than the others. I mean all you have to have is a password that you can get from anybody. If someone hands you a piece of paper that is written of the Gryffindor common room password, anyone can get in, but with the Ravenclaw, the questions change every single time.

Andrew: But it's still anyone could answer it if they thought of it.

Matt: Well, anyone could get in any common room if they just have the password too.

Andrew: Right.

Matt: So...

Andrew: No, no. I agree. I agree. But I think there is a better excuse for McGonagall being able to get in because she's a professor.

Matt: And she is a Head of House.

Andrew: Head of House or - you're right, but...

Laura: That's true.

Andrew: ...I don't think - it would make more sense if she was able to get access if she is a professor, because look at real schools. Teachers have master keys for the most part.

Matt: Yeah, why couldn't they just get a key to their common room? I mean the kids?

Andrew: Well, you could also share the keys.

[Micah laughs]

Matt: Well, yeah.

Laura: Right.

Andrew: There's no good - there's no secure way of doing it!

Matt: There is always some loophole or something.

Andrew: There's always a way.

Micah: I mean talking about security, over all though, I think that even if you think about dorms, everybody has a lock on their door, and most of the time the buildings themselves get locked up at night. You have to have a security card to gain entrance. So it's not that far out there to think that these common rooms shouldn't have passwords or something that protects them from the outside world.

Andrew: Keep in mind that Hogwarts - or that the Harry Potter books are set in a pre-9/11 world, so I think that plays a factor too.

Micah: Yeah, well, I'm sure that people locked their doors before 9/11 too. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Well, no, but I'm saying after 9/11 everything changed. It was sort of a joke, but...

Matt: Well, I mean, honestly, I think all the common rooms should have those eye scanners or something.

Andrew: [laughs] Okay. Well, hey, it is magic. I mean, the thing should just know he's - if the person who's trying to get in is a Gryffindor or not anyway.

Matt: Yeah, but that'd be too easy.

Micah: I agree with that.

Andrew: Too easy? Eh, true. Anyway, let's move on. I think Hogwarts will be just fine in the way it's been operating.

Matt: Yeah. I mean, no one's going to break in.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. So what happens next?

Disregard for Human Life

Micah: What happens next? Well, they enter the common room. Shockingly. And there's this whole scene that takes place, and Amycus comes in and he sees his sister lying on the ground, and what eventually ends up developing is this conversation between Amycus and McGonagall. And Amycus is starting to freak out because he knows that she's put up the Dark Mark, and this has told Voldemort that they've captured Harry.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: And for him, he knows that - for all he knows, Harry is not even there. He has no clue that Harry's in the room, so he figures, "Well, I'm in a - my sister's in a whole lot of trouble now because she just summoned the Dark Mark and told Voldemort that Harry's here. And for all I can tell, Harry is nowhere to be found." So he goes through this whole thing where he tries to come up with an idea of blaming this on the Ravenclaw students that have come into the common room when they heard Alecto getting hit with that spell. So, what are your guys' thoughts on this? I mean, it goes back to the whole idea of what we've talked about through this entire series and this entire book, actually. And that is that there's this complete disregard for human life on the part of the Death Eaters, and this was just even more.

Andrew: They care more for their own lives...

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: ...more than anything else.

Micah: Yeah, we're talking about children now.

Andrew: Being killed by Voldemort is the worst way to go.

Laura: Right. The students are just dispensable to them.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: And then McGonagall... [laughs] ...has a great line in here, and I can see Maggie Smith saying these lines. You know, she turns to Amycus and says, "You're not going to pass off your many ineptitudes on the students of Hogwarts. I shall not permit it." And so McGonagall is starting to fight back a little bit. Do you guys think she had any idea that Harry was there at that point?

Laura: I don't think so because she seemed really shocked by it.

Matt: Yeah. She was clutching her chest.

Laura: It had said that - yeah, it said that she fell down in a chair.

Micah's Favorite Scene

Micah: Yeah, that's right. And then we get into the whole spitting incident between Amycus and McGonagall.

Matt: Agghh! Yes.

Micah: And this is my favorite scene, I think, in Deathly Hallows, to be honest - is when Harry rips off the Invisibility Cloak and performs the Cruciatus Curse on Amycus.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And Harry says, "You shouldn't have done that." Just because it sent Harry over the edge and it gave him that extra push to perform...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: ...the Cruciatus Curse, right?

Micah: Right.

Andrew: That's basically what he's saying. [laughs] Which is awesome.

Micah: And then he also refers to the fact that, you know, Bellatrix, who told him back in Order of the Phoenix that you really have to mean it...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: He actually felt...

Andrew: Yeah, that's why...

Micah: ...the effects of the curse.

Andrew: ...I thought that. Yeah.

Laura: And I love the line where McGonagall told him he shouldn't have done that and he just very simply said, "Well, he spit at you."

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: "He spat at you." Yeah. [laughs]

Matt: Now, do - do you think that the fact that he felt really, really emotional towards Professor McGonagall when she said, "Harry's in my House." Because whenever - because in the book he says that he - he had a lot of, you know, respect for her at that moment when he said that. Do you think that...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Do you think that fueled the hatred when he spat in her face? To do the...

Andrew: Well, I think that just gave Harry more of a reason to protect her because, you know, she's showing...

Matt: Right.

Andrew: much - how she protects Harry. "Harry's in my House."

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: "Back off. He can't be here."

Matt: Yeah, but it was just an even bigger slope down from being like extremely respectable to Professor McGonagall and then seeing this - her immediately being spit - spat in the face.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: It just goes from, you know, a really happy moment to a really furious feeling.

Andrew: So, Micah, did you think that - did you think that this was leading up to him using Avada Kedavra on Voldemort? I mean, if he can perform an Unforgivable Curse on a Death Eater, killing Voldemort should be no problem.

Micah: Well, this is the second time really, or the second of the two or the three Unforgivable Curses that he uses in the book.

Matt: Mhm.

Micah: And that's why - what led me to believe - yeah, I thought that he was going to end up using the Killing Curse at the end. I thought it was sort of leading up to it. He uses the Imperius Curse in Gringotts and then, you know, he uses the Cruciatus Curse here. So I thought we were going to actually see him use the Killing Curse. But we all know that that didn't end up happening. He used the, you know, the ever powerful...

Matt: Expelliarmus.

Micah: Exactly. And, you know, who isn't scared of that?

Matt: I know, like, right?

[Laura laughs]

Matt: That red flash. Ahhj, scary.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: So, that was just kind of my thinking as the book progressed. That that's where we were going with it, but it ended up not happening. So...

McGonagall Has her Moment

Matt: I think this whole chapter is - for Professor McGonagall, this is the scene that all of the fans of Maggie Smith have been waiting for, honestly, because this entire chapter - she gets spat in the face. She pretty much controls Hogwarts in this scene, and she leads Harry into - I mean, she has her moment. This is one of her moments in the series. I think one of her biggest moments, too.

Andrew: Definitely.

Laura: Yeah. And, you know, I have to say, itís not oftentimes when I read these books and I actually visualize one of the actors from the movies acting out the role, but with Maggie Smith, I absolutely almost always envision her reading these lines and acting out this part. So sheís definitely a very strong actress and I canít wait to see her do this in the movie.

Matt: Thereís this one part in the chapter - well, Iím going to say until we get to that part - where I immediately saw her as the actress playing this role, so...

Micah: Yeah. Well, and I just think, I mean, sheís sort of been in the background for such a long time in these movies. This would kind of be the scene - and I saw the movies before I read the books, so to me, Maggie Smith has always been Professor McGonagall. So Iím looking forward to this.

Harry Keeping Everything a Secret

Andrew: So, McGonagall gets all into it once Harry tells her that heís acting on Professor Dumbledoreís orders, and sheís willing to help immediately to lock down the school, which is another awesome, great line that should really shine through in the movie. And Harry doesnít give out more information at this point, and at this time also, Voldemort is all but certain that his Horcruxes are being destroyed, so what harm would it have - Micah asks in this discussion what harm would it have done to tell McGonagall, Flitwick, Sprout, or especially Slughorn, whatís going on. But I donít know, Micah, I really donít think - you know, first of all, there wasnít time, I donít think, to set up the story again. Why do you think it would have been important? Donít you think all they really needed to know is that Voldemort is coming to the school and is going to kill anyone whoís in his way?

Micah: Yes, I agree with that, but at the same time, I think, with this whole idea of trying to find the lost diadem, it would have reinforced the importance of him needing to find it so maybe any more knowledge that they were - that they had could have been used, and obviously he ends up finding it, but kind of on a whim as opposed to getting some sort of clear cut information from, you know, one of the professors.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, yeah, I agree with that because there is one point where theyíre like, "Why does that matter in this time of peril?"

Laura: Yeah. I mean, I definitely think it would have been easier for Harry that way, but at the same time I think he really recognized the importance of keeping it secret.

Andrew: Yeah, that's true.

Laura: And he even stated later that the reason he told Ron and Hermione was so that there would be people to take his place in case he died. So itís really - it's like a life or death situation. You find close people that you will trust in the case that you can no longer carry out the search, and those are the only people who can know.

Matt: Well, and McGonagall was really accepting of when he told her that it was Dumbledoreís orders. She didnít give it a second thought about it either.

Micah: Yeah, it was almost like there was a flip of a switch. She was constantly telling him, "You should be here, what are you doing here?" But then as soon as Dumbledoreís name came up in conversation, like Matt said, it was just like an automatic, "Okay, what do I need to do?"

Matt: She wasnít like that in Half-Blood Prince either. Didnít she kind of give Harry a little bit of a 20/20 interview about that?

Laura: Yeah, she did.

Matt: Saying, "I think you should tell me."

Duel with Snape

Andrew: So then from there McGonagall summons the other Heads of House, and they have this big duel with Snape. Just reading this back and knowing that Snape is good, what do you think he really was going to do to Harry? When Snape said that he must "insist"?

Matt: I donít think heíd expected it to happen like this, though.

Andrew: Who?

Matt: Snape.

Andrew: Snape?

Matt: I donít think he really knew what he was going to do.

Micah: In my opinion, I think what happened was Snapeís - the mark on his arm started to move and he clearly realized what that meant, and that meant that Harry was at Hogwarts. So I think part of it was probably him just freaking out because he realized what he had to do, and that the time had come for him to tell Harry that, "Look, this has been the plan all along," and I think in that situation, he wasnít going to do anything to harm Harry clearly, but maybe - he was looking around almost nervously to see where Harry was. He knew that Harry had an Invisibility Cloak and he just wasnít sure where he was or whether or not he was with McGonagall.

Matt: He was probably very nervous too because besides Hermione and Ron, Snape probably knows the situation just as much as they do, because heís that close with Voldemort, so he knows that Voldemort knows that theyíre after the Horcruxes. And he knows that they have no time left.

Laura: Right.

Andrew: Yeah. Itís a poor situation for Snape and I couldnít help but feel bad for him. [laughs] While heís being attacked in this case.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: But I mean, you know, they - of course, had to be careful with this time of peril.

Matt: And who doesnít want to see Alan Rickman and Maggie Smith duel in this scene?

Laura: Oh yeah, I think thatíll be really good.

Andrew: Well, I guess. The way theyíve blown duels in Order of the Phoenix I wouldnít get my hopes up.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Theyíll be throwing water balls at each other.

[Laura laughs]

Matt: The water balloons?

Laura: Itíll be like Pokťmon.

Snape is the New Batman

Andrew: Water balloons, sorry. So, Snape can turn into a bat and fly. Apparently Snapeís the new Batman.

Matt: Well, a bat-like, not a bat.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: What does it say? Yeah, "Turn into a bat-like" - yeah, what was with that? Was that just kind of random or what?

Laura: No, he learned how to fly from Voldemort.

Matt: Yeah, itís like, "Oh, he's a bat now."

Andrew: Snapeman!

Matt: It's bad enough everybody thought he was a vampire.

Micah: Based on all that talk that had existed before Deathly Hallows that he was a vampire, just the words "bat-like" weren't that uncommon or surprising, I would think.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Mhm.

Matt: Well, maybe they're just trying to shoot - maybe J.K. Rowling was just trying to tell us how it really looked like when Voldemort was flying all by himself. Because there's no real explanation except, just like, smoke billowing from beneath him, right?

Another Great McGonagall Moment

Micah: Right. So after Snape takes flight and leaves, there's this whole discussion that goes on between the Heads of House and Harry, and basically what McGonagall is going to do is rally the troops. The ones who are old enough and can stay behind will fight. The others will be taken out through the Room of Requirement to the Hog's Head to Apparate away from Hogwarts, and again, this is another line that I picked out of the book for Maggie Smith, which I think is going to be an awesome line in the series, and she tells Professor Slughorn in particular, who's the most apprehensive about the situation that lies ahead, and she tells him, "The time has come for Slytherin House to decide upon its loyalties." And she even tells them that if they try anything that they're going to fight to the death.

Andrew: To the death. It's so, like - it just shows - like, McGonagall's scared at this point. And there's no BS - there's no room for BS with her.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: It's pretty strange.

Laura: Yeah, it's great she's telling people exactly what she thinks about them. Like at one point Filch comes in she calls him a blithering idiot.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: And at one point when he's like - she tells him to go find Peeves and he's perplexed by it and she says, "Yes, haven't you been complaining about him for the last quarter of a century?"

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: Well, this is also one of those traits of Gryffindor that a lot of people don't seem to think about. It's when - Gryffindors are very blunt when they talk. They don't really go through the formalities, especially in these kind of situations. They pretty much just speak whatever's going through their head.

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: Well, this is just going to be an, overall, an awesome scene in the movie, hopefully, if they don't mess it up too badly. But, yeah, you sort of have the unifying of the Houses and, as Laura mentioned, you have McGonagall telling Filch to go get Peeves. So, it's really a rallying of the troops, in essence, and the best part is when Flitwick is casting the Protective spell over Hogwarts, you have Professor Sprout who's going to run off and I don't know what she's going to get, but she mentions a couple of things that she could be using...

Andrew: Devil's Snare.

Micah: the fight. And then McGonagall - I hope I don't butcher this - but she does the spell Piertotem Locomotor, and I just think this is going to be...

Andrew: Oh, yeah.

Matt: Yeah, this was the scene I was talking about.

Micah: Oh, really?

Matt: Yeah, this is probably going to be one of the most badass scenes you're going to see in this part of the book - er, the movie. If they follow what the other movies have done, she's probably going to put her wand near her throat and then it's just going to echo through the entire castle, and all of the statues and armor are just going to come alive and start running down the halls.

[Laura laughs]

No One Cares That Percy is Back

Andrew: And then Dumbledore's Army, the Order of the Phoenix, and even Harry's old Gryffindor Quidditch team are awaiting him in the Room of Requirement. It's turning into sort of like the locker room, so to speak. It's just like - or it's like the Situation Room in the White House - like everyone's there. And then Percy returns. Aw, who cares?

Matt: Oh, I know.

Andrew: Does anyone care? I mean, it was nice.

Laura: Not really.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: It seemed kind of thrown in there.

Laura: At that I had become - at that point Percy had become so unimportant to me as a character...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: ...I was just like, "oh, that's cool. Closure, that's nice."

Andrew: It was refreshing - yeah. It was refreshing. I remember being kind of excited. I don't remember seeing Laura crying, so I guess it wasn't that big of a deal.

Laura: [laughs] I did a lot of that during this book. Anyway...

Matt: Well, odds are this part is going to be cut anyway since they're probably not even going to have Percy in this film.

Overall, Great Chapter

Micah: So - and then the chapter - this is pretty much the end of the chapter, where Harry gets back to the Room of Requirement. All of those people are there and then he has sort of this vision again of Voldemort and he's standing outside the gates of Hogwarts and the line that J.K. Rowling used was, "He was possessed of that cold, cruel sense of purpose that preceded murder."

Matt: Ooo.

Micah: So...

Andrew: Ooooo.....

Laura: Yeah, I think I remember reading that. And, I mean, of course we were reading the book straight through so it wasn't like there was any chance throughout any of the other chapters that I was going to put the book down, but this definitely solidified my turning the next page and not eating or sleeping or showering or anything until I finished this book because it was so good.

Matt: This is definitely not a chapter you just read once - I mean, just read this one chapter and not continue. It was bad enough we had to just read this one chapter this week.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. I was disappointed with that too, actually, because these chapters seem to fly by, and I wanted to keep reading but then I just confused myself when I'm talking on Chapter-by-Chapter. I think that does it for our discussion, right?

Matt: Yeah, we just left off on the chapter when Harry's trying to find Ron and Hermione.

Andrew: So that does it for that discussion, which leads us...

Quote Quiz

[Quote Quiz intro plays]

Andrew: Sorry, that was really loud.

Matt: Yeah. Ow.

Andrew: I did not intend it to be that loud. Sorry. "I sought to make myself cleverer, more important than my mother; I ran away with it." Who could that be?

Voicemail: Laura is Really Amanda

Andrew: So we have some voicemails this week - come back with some voicemails, and we have several real good ones. We're going to take - we're going to take a fun one first. Laura, I think everyone's going to enjoy this, this is pretty intriguing.

Laura: All right.

Andrew: So, here's the first voymail - voicemail.

[Audio]: Hi guys, this is Jason from Kentucky again. Got one thought for you concerning Laura. I have had suspicion for a while now that actually Laura is Amanda from Survivor. If you listen to their voices it's insane. Somehow...

[Laura laughs]

[Audio]: ...I believe that Amanda is actually Laura. It's like a - it's like a different personality for her, but not very different. And then she somehow has snuck like a satellite phone onto the island...

[Laura laughs]

[Audio]: that she could call in for MuggleCast. Just a thought. Bye.

Andrew: So, I looked into this, Laura, because I, you know...

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: And does anyone here watch Survivor by chance?

Matt: No.

Micah: I do.

Andrew: Do you? Do you know who her man - who Amanda is?

Micah: Sure. I mean, I have - I've watched the season, but sporadically. I know it just ended, so...

Andrew: Well, here's a clip of Amanda, and I think this caller is right.

Amanda: I trust Parv completely. I think her and I can go really far in this game, you know, because we both have different strategies and we're different personalities, but together, like, I think we can do a lot.

Andrew: [laughs] Laura, I think that really sounds like you.

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Laura: Okay, okay.

Matt: It sounds like the Valley Girl version of Laura.

Laura: You guys - you guys found me out. That is my alter ego.

Andrew: Doesn't that sound like her, though?

Laura: And I, like, really, think we do a lot together.

Andrew: [laughs] It does sound kind of scripted for Survivor, but...

Laura: Yeah, you know what, though? It's not the first time I've had people saying that I sound like someone else. A couple of other people have said I sound like Pam from The Office.

Andrew: Eh, sort of.

Laura: Which I don't really hear that as much, but, you know...

Andrew: Yeah. I thought that was pretty funny.

Matt: Awww.

Andrew: Next voicemail.

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