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Voicemail: The Series is Over

[Audio]: Hey guys, this is Joe, 13, from Massachusetts. Yeah, I'm calling about what I just saw in Barnes and Noble today. I just got out and I went - and then I was in the children's section where Barnes and Noble usually has Harry Potter, and it wasn't there. They took the section out. They replaced it with, like, The Spiderwick Chronicles and The Chronicles of Narnia and some other stuff, and I usually don't really care about that stuff, but it just kind of hit me for a second. I was like, "Whoa, the books really are over, and they're not selling as much...

[Andrew laughs]

[Audio]: ...and I was just kind of sad for a second there.

[Andrew laughs]

[Audio]: I know the movies are still going on and everything, but never - some people it takes longer than others to hit them that the series is actually over. For me it just happened for the books. I don't know. Just called in what that depressing note.

Andrew: Laura, you and I were at - in a Borders the other day and it was kind of weird seeing the Harry Potter books, like, on a shelf, and it wasn't even like the complete collection. They were sort of just like whatever they had leftover.

Laura: Yeah, it was pretty crappy. They had, like, just a few of the paperbacks. There weren't that many; they didn't even have a complete collection of those.

Andrew: Yeah, I thought it was pretty sad.

Laura: It was off in a corner too.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: [laughs] It was really sad.

Andrew: It really does show you the books are over.

Matt: I think it's just - they're just going to have another book shelf of them when the movie comes out anyway. Because the only reason why they had a whole presentation of Narnia was because the movie's coming out for Prince Caspian. I mean, Narnia has been - the last book was, what, last issued in the fifties?

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Just like Lord of the Rings, so...

Laura: So...

Matt: It's just because right now it's out in...

Andrew: It's hot.

Matt: ...popular culture. Yeah.

Andrew: It's hot.

Matt: It's hot!

Andrew: All right, next voicemail.

Voicemail: Trial's Effect on Release of Teaser Trailer

[Audio]: Hi MuggleCast, hi, I'm Erika. I'm 20 and I'm from Chicago, Illinois. Well, I am not upset with you guys, because your show is awesome, of course, and I listen every week. But just the fact that with the WB, that how we don't have a teaser yet and how we have, like, movies like Twilight and they had, like, a teaser trailer and stuff out, and I was just wondering, well, do you think that because of the trial with J.K. Rowling and Steve Vander Ark, or whatever - do you think that that's the reason we haven't gotten a teaser trailer yet? Because they're trying to settle that first before they can, you know, give us a trailer, or whatever. Just wanted to know what you guys thought about that. Love you guys' show. I've been a huge listener since day one. All right, I'll talk to you later. Bye.

Matt: Bye.

Andrew: Thanks for that. You know, the reason I included this voicemail is because this has crossed my mind before. Do you guys think it could be because of the trial?

Matt: I don't think so.

Laura: Yeah. I mean, honestly, most people don't even know about the trial.

Matt: That's right.

Andrew: Yeah, I know, but it just seems weird how Warner Brothers has been acting with the releasing stuff thus far and, like, the only difference this year is the trial. So...

Matt: Warner Brothers has been acting a little, you know, skimpy with updates and things on the film, but, I mean, the film itself is not really connected to the trial, and they have released...

Andrew: But it's Warner Brothers.

Matt: But they have release dates to consider too. I mean...

Andrew: It just seems weird, I don't know. It's crossed my mind, so...

Matt: Because the outcome of this trial's not going to affect when the movie is going to be released or not anyway.

Andrew: Well, I could just, like - yeah, I agree with that. But, like, I'm just picturing, you know, this trailer hitting - hitting, you know, theaters and then, the same day or the next day, "Warner Brother, Harry Potter court trial, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." So, it's like...

Micah: You...

Andrew: Maybe the trailer would be overshadowed by the trial.

Matt: But, see, the trial isn't even that widely known besides Harry Potter fans.

Andrew: Well, that's what the teaser trailer's for.

Matt: But the teaser trailer is teasing the general public. Not...

Andrew: [unintelligible] ...all the fans. [laughs]

Micah: Well, I wouldn't say that it wasn't known. I mean, it was definitely written up in a bunch of different newspapers...

Andrew: It's been everywhere.

Micah: ...throughout the world, so...

Laura: Yeah, but a lot of people don't really know the specifics and a lot of people really don't care, to be honest.

Andrew: But I'm just thinking...

Matt: That's right.

Andrew: could be - it could overshadow it. I mean, 'cause it - you know. It's hard enough for them to get publicity for a teaser trailer, which is...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Which is pretty important because that's when they start the initial - the teaser posters.

Matt: But also the book and the films are two different venues.

Andrew: It doesn't matter. Warner Brothers is still involved because they own the copyrights.

Matt: Right, they own the copyrights but, I mean - are you saying they're just taking the whole publicity of the film on the back burner during this trial because it's bringing everybody's attention to it and no one's working on it? I mean the promotions?

Andrew: I'm saying that the trial could overshadow the hype of the teaser trailer in a negative light.

Matt: I don't think so.

Laura: Well...

Micah: Yeah...

Laura: ...I think it's possible that they could be acting cautiously. Whether...

Andrew: Mhm.

Laura: ...they need to or not is a matter of opinion.

Matt: Well, it's - well, it's definitely obvious Warner Brothers is doing something based on this trial because they're not even telling us anything since the trial began really. There hasn't been any real official updates or anything on the film.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: My question is, how far in advance do you generally receive a teaser trailer for a movie?

Andrew: Well, look at it this way: like we got the Order of the Phoenix trailer with Happy Feet. I'm going to look it up. I think it came out in January? Right?

Laura: Yeah. I think you're right.

Andrew: So I guess - then we're not really late for a trailer, are we? What made me think that we were?

Laura: No, we're late for a teaser.

Matt: Wait. We're late for a teaser trailer.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: The teaser - oh, the teaser came out in November.

Matt: Right.

Micah: Oh wow.

Matt: November 17th.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: And the movie didn't come out till July.

Andrew: 'Till July.

Matt: We're already - no, I said this last time. We're already over a month overdue if we're going by the Goblet of Fire - or the Order of the Phoenix teaser trailer.

Micah: Well, maybe you're right, Andrew. Maybe it does have something to do with the court case.

Andrew: I just think it would be negative pub - I think it would be a bad mix of publicity. You got this negative court trial and then you've got this positive teaser. I - you know, they're being quiet differently. You know. Something's going on. Anyway, we'll see what happens. Hopefully this week. Next voicemail.

Voicemail: Irony in Dumbledore's Death

[Audio]: Hi, I was just catching up on a few episodes, and you were talking about - you were going over the chapter "The Deathly Hallows," and you were talking about how it's interesting that the Deathly Hallows usually got people killed, and you mentioned how it's ironic that Dumbledore, the only thing he wanted to see was his family again, which is why he had the Resurrection Stone, and it ended up causing his death when he asked Snape to finish him off, and the curse spread up his arm. So he did actually end up going to see his family again.

Andrew: There's a little bit of irony there.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Thought it was kind of clever. Excuse me. So that does it for voicemails this week.

This Week in MuggleCast

Andrew: So we're going to step back into the past here with This Week in MuggleCast. We're going to go all the way back to May 21, 2006 with Episode 40, "Hatin' on Dumbledore." This was, of course, the controversial episode that MuggleNet staff member - well, former MuggleNet staff member, Jess - was on. So let's go back in time here; we got to do the little... [makes back in time noise]

Jess: However, this feeds my theory that Dumbledore is an idiot...

[Laura laughs]

Jess: ...and that Dumbledore is evil...

[Laura laughs]

Jess: ...and that Dumbledore deserved to fall off the Astronomy Tower...

Andrew: Umm...

Jess: ...dead, because...

[Laura and Jess laugh]

Ben: [imitating Hagrid] NEVER - INSULT - ALBUS - DUMBLEDORE - IN - FRONT - OF - ME!

[Everyone laughs]

Jess: Well, you know... [laughs]

[Andrew, Ben, and Jess laugh]

Ben: We have caves.

Jess: Well, I have never liked Dumbledore. I just don't like Dumbledore. I think he's a fraud.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Oh, my gosh!

Jess: I think he deserved everything he got.

[Laura laugh]

Andrew: Who are you?!

Jess: And, you know, I think almost, in a way, that he sets up Harry into these situations so he can't take the blame for it.

Andrew: Oh, whoa...

Ben: Whatever! You're like...

[Laura laughs]

Jess: Whatever happens.

Andrew: I'm on the verge of crying! I can't believe you would say this!

Ben: You're like - you're like the National Enquirer on MuggleCast.

[Everyone laughs]

Eric: It's true.

Laura: This girl laughed at me when I cried. It was so sad.

Jess: I laughed and took pictures while Laura cried over Dumbledore's death.

Andrew: [makes back in time noises] That was a classic. That was a classic scene.

Laura: Wow.

Andrew: So yeah, after that episode we got a lot of...

Laura: Yeah, people were...

Andrew: ...negative feedback about Jess and I still can't figure out why.

[Micah laughs]

Laura: Well, because people - see, there's - I've noticed that there is a trend, and not to say that we got hundreds of e-mails or anything. But every now and then, if someone says something that a few people disagree with they feel like it was a personal attack upon themselves and their theories...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: ...and they decide to blow it out of proportion.

P.O. Box Update

Andrew: All right, so Laura is back at home. She's a - Congrats, Laura, on finishing your first year of college, by the way.

Laura: Thank you very much. Likewise to yourself.

Andrew: Oh, thank you, and my first time leaving a college too.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: So you're back at home, and you had time to check out the P.O. Box, and were going to do a little P.O. Box update for a little...

Laura: Yeah. One of the first things that I wanted to say thank you for was Talia hand-knitted scarves for each of us - each of the MuggleCasters, and their really, really nice. I mean they're just really, really well done, and my mom is coveting them, and they're really, really great. So I'm look forward to sending those out to everybody. Jenny sent us a nice little postcard from Boston. Lily also sent us a postcard of Dumbledore that she had left over from a set, I'm assuming. Nadia sent us some HP trading cards, and what's pretty cool about these is, she sent some of them that were in different languages. So we have them in like Japanese and Spanish. So, that's pretty cool.

Andrew: Are those the trading cards - I remember those; I used to collect them.

Laura: Yeah. Me too!

Andrew: Like the co - the face of them has like Harry's forehead.

Laura: Right. Yeah. Those are the ones.

Andrew: Oh, those were great. Those were fun. We should play that at Por - we should like set up a tournament at Portus!

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Bring them back. All of the sudden the toy company has all these sales.

Laura: Oh gosh. [laughs] That'd be great.

Andrew: That would be - yeah.

Laura: We also have - Mark sent us his CD. It's his Wizard Rock band, and the band is called Marked as His Equal. So he sent that to us, and he sent us a few tracks, and it's very nice, so we really appreciate getting that. All right, Andrew, you also got a package from an unknown sender...

Andrew: That's right.

Laura: ...and we opened it before the show tonight and it was...

Andrew: Upon my request, we should probably mention.

Laura: Yes. Upon Andrew's request, we opened it. And it was the Wii Lego Star Wars game, so...

Andrew: Thank you so much for that. I will be having a Wii in California, and thank you. That's very nice. That's a very generous gift. I'm very eager to play it. I used to play Lego Harry Potter, so - and I know Mikey apparently loves Lego Star Wars, so we'll play that with him, too. It should be fun. So thank you for that.

Laura: Yeah, Andrew, you also got a letter from Devon, so...

Andrew: Awww, thanks, Devon. How about my - my birthday's coming up, Laura, did anyone send me birthday gifts?

Laura: No.

Andrew: Oh.

Laura: Sorry.

Andrew: Oh, that...huh.

Laura: Actually a lot of people send my mom letters.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Laura: It's really cute. And then Micah also got what I'm assuming is a T-shirt, from an unknown sender, so...

Andrew: Mystery.

Laura: Is he here?

Micah: I hope it's a T-shirt.

Laura: No, it...

Micah: I don't know what else it could be. I mean, you probably should hope it's a T-shirt because you're the one that has the package right now.

Laura: Well, I mean it's not open,'s not like...

Micah: You want to open it? Open it! Let's open it right now on the show.

Andrew: Oooh. Okay. Go ahead.

Laura: Are you serious?

Andrew: Why not?

Laura: Okay, you have to let me go get it really quick. Hold up.

Micah: Okay, guys, I'm calling the police and having her arrested for opening my mail.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Okay, make sure you put the bag close to the mic [tearing sound begins in the background] so we can hear every last tear.

Laura: Do you hear it?

Matt: I bet it's - I bet it's a goat shirt or something.

Andrew: That'd be so funny.

[Tearing continues]

Laura: Let's see, I'm pulling it out... [long pause, then Laura starts laughing hard]...

[Matt laughs]

Laura: I don't think this is anything I can read out loud, but it is a goat shirt.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: I knew it!

Andrew: Say it. Say it on the air. We'll cut out anything that's inappropriate.

Laura: It's all inappropriate. It's like a checklist.

Andrew: Micah's disappointed. I think he really wanted a shirt he could wear.

[Andrew and Laura continue to laugh]

Laura: So, Micah, do you have a reaction?

Micah: [takes a deep breath] No, I can't say that I do.

[Andrew, Laura, and Matt laugh]

Micah: Thanks, I think.

Matt: Do we...

Laura: And we did get one letter from Caroline, so thank you for that.

Matt: Awww.

Andrew: Thank you, everyone. We'll remind everyone about the P.O. Box information at the end of the show, if you would like to send something in. I mean - also it's my birthday this week. Happy birthday to me since nobody else wants to say it.

Laura: I was going to tell you on your birthday. Gosh.

Andrew: No, but on the show we always...

Laura: Don't be such a whiner.

Andrew: ...happy - wish happy - forget it. Forget it. It's okay.

Matt: All right, are we going to wish Andrew a Happy Birthday...

Andrew: No, it's fine. No.

Matt: ... now that he's crying about it?

Andrew: No, it's fine. Let's move on.

Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul

[Chicken Soup intro plays]

[Audio]: Hey MuggleCast, it's Daniel from Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just wanted to leave a Harry Potter for your soul - Chicken Soup for Your Soul - whatever it's called. Anywho - yeah - and I also left a message before this one, it was kind of crappy so I'm leaving it again. Yay! But anywho, I've only been listening since - since about last Christmas, so not very long. Really, you guys have changed my life already. Whenever - whenever I'm in my depressed mood I just say to myself, you know - I feel like listening to MuggleCast. And whenever I hear someone - like - make fun of Laura or like - or like Micah talking about goats all the time, it just makes me laugh hysterically, and I just get into a cheerful, happy mood again. Especially when you guys make the [makes flashback noise] noise when you go back to attack all the past episodes. And so just - I just wanted to thank you guys so much for doing all of this, like - and - and I think a whole bunch of people really thank you for doing MuggleCast. I really appreciate it, and so does everybody else. Well, continue doing this. I'm going to be so sad when you guys leave. Ahh. And - so yeah - well, thank you! You guys do great, and I love you, Laura. You're awesome. Okay. Bye!

Laura: Awww, well, thank you. I love you too, and I drove through Charlotte, North Carolina the other day. Nice place.

Andrew: Thanks a lot for that Chicken Soup. That was really nice, and, you know, it's for people like him that we do the show for, who really appreciate - appreciate it and get a lot out of it, and enjoy it a lot.

Laura: Yeah. Thank you.

Micah: That was nice.

Andrew: Yeah. That was nice.

Matt: Yes. Sweet.

Contact Information

Andrew: So, I think it is time to wrap up this 146th episode of MuggleCast. Laura, as we were talking about, what's the P.O. Box if people want to mail me some birthday gifts?

Laura: P.O. Box 3151, Cumming, Georgia 30028.

Andrew: Gift cards to In and Out, Best Buy, the Apple Store...

Laura: Yeah, and just be sure when you send those, don't specify who you are sending them to because then I can keep them for myself.

Andrew: Put "ATTN: Andrew." That would be the best way to go for that. It's my birthday, so...

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Matt: Okay.

Micah: Wait, wait, wait, when's your birthday?

Matt: You want to plug that a little more?

Andrew: It's this Friday.

Micah: Friday.

Andrew: May 23rd.

Micah: May 23rd.

Andrew: Andrew Sims's...

Micah: Happy Birthday.

Andrew: ...19th Birthday Bash.

Micah: Happy Birthday.

Andrew: Aw, thanks, Micah. Thank you, sir. So let's remind everyone about the voicemail information. If you would like to call in a question to MuggleCast to have your question aired during the voicemail portion of our show, I - we have a few numbers for you. If you are in the United States you can dial 1-218-20-MAGIC. If you are in the United Kingdom you can dial 020-8144-0677. And if you are in Australia you can dial 02-8003-5668. People have been asking for other numbers, like a Canadian number. And I've wanted to get a Canadian number but Skype doesn't sell them. So you would have to call international. I'm sorry about that. You can also Skype the username MuggleCast. No matter how you call us, though, just remember to keep your message under 60 seconds and eliminate as much background noise as possible please. You can also visit for out handy feedback form. To contact any one of us...

[Show music begins]

Andrew: ...just use our fist names at staff dot mugglenet dot com. We also have a variety of community outlet links on MuggleCast, as always, including the MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Frappr, Last.FM, and the fanlistings and forums. You can also follow us on Twitter, Digg the show at and vote for us once a month...

Matt: On Podcast Alley.

Andrew: You bettcha.

Matt: We're number one right now.

Show Close

Andrew: Yeah. Guys, I'm a little sad, to be honest with you. You know, I've been recording MuggleCast here in sunny Medford ever since the start and it's the last one.

Laura: Aw.

Matt: Sunny? You live in Jersey.

Andrew: I got to say - yeah, but it's sunny. It was sunny here today. It's kind of...

Matt: Oh, okay.

Andrew: ...sad. It's kind of sad. MuggleCast started here and it's not ending here, which I guess is a good thing. But - so, once again we're not sure if we're doing a live episode next week. That all depends on the trailer coming out. If the trailer does come out, definitely look for a show from us that weekend. Not live, but a regular show. If not we probably won't be doing a live show 'cause I'm going to be busy - busy moving. And we need a week off. I think it's high time. So...

Micah: Yeah, I could use a week off.

Andrew: There you go.

Micah: From work.

Andrew: Hey, everyone. For my birthday I'm giving you a week off. How does that sound?

Laura: Woo...

Matt: It's the perfect...

Micah: That's very nice of you.


Andrew: You're welcome, Micah. Anytime.

Micah: But can you...

Andrew: It's for my birthday.

Micah: ...get me off from work for a week?

Andrew: Huh?

Micah: Can you get me off my real job for a week?

Laura: Yeah, me too. That would be great.

Andrew: So that does it for this week's episode of MuggleCast. Once again, I'm Andrew Sims.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I am Matthew Britton.

Andrew: Thank you, everyone, for listening, and we will see you next week, hopefully, or the week after, for Episode 147. Buh-bye.

Laura: Bye.

Micah: Bye.

Matt: Buh-bye.


[Dogs bark]

Matt: Will you shut the dogs up!?

Written by: The Transcribers