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[Harry Potter theme plays] Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you all enjoyed - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!
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Micah: Because some people feel the need to call me on my only night off, this is MuggleCast Episode 148 for June 8th, 2008.
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Andrew: So, there are only six more chapters left in our wonderful, enlightening Chapter-by-Chapter series, and many people are wondering what we're going to do after these chapters are finished, because we've always - we've been saying for the past couple months that once we finish Chapter-by-Chapter that's when we're going to slow down the show.
Matt: Mhm. We're quitting.
Andrew: No, we're not quitting and that's the big misconception.
Andrew: We're actually - we're far from quitting. We're just going to be slowing down how - how - how frequent the episodes are released. So I thought it would be nice if we could just discuss, you know, what - what we could do in the opening because we've got nothing else we can talk about. [laughs] Should we - do you guys think we should do every other week? Do you think there would be enough content? Laura, as a long time host, do you think this would be a wise choice?
Laura: Ooh. You know, I don't know. I feel like a lot of fans would be really happy about that, but I'm not sure we could depend on there being that systematic release of news and other information every two weeks. I feel like sometimes it would work and sometimes it would come up short. So, I almost feel like an approach - sort of along the lines of putting out a show when there's something to put out a show about might be a little more practical, but that's just me.
Matt: Yeah. That's what I thought too. I mean - the whole fact that we are kind of slowing down is basically because we want to be able to release a show when we have enough content to make an actual good show for the listeners.
Andrew: So, both of you have the view of glass the is half empty.
Laura: [laughs] No.
Mikey: I'm going to have to go - I'm going to flip it over and say the glass is half full, Andrew.
Andrew: There we go.
Matt: I think my glass is half full, but it's made of ice so when you tip it over not - it's still the same. It's not devour itself.
Andrew: That - so...
Matt: I was so - I almost had it. [laughs]
Mikey: I have - I have to say this, Matt. If your glass is half full, and it's filled with ice, and there's anything in there besides ice, it's actually less than half way. So, you really are doubting, you're...
Matt: Well water's heav...
Mikey: You know what, Matt? Matt, don't...
Matt: Liquid's heavier than ice though, so...
Andrew: Anyway, I guess we'll have to leave it up to the listeners, maybe create a poll or something to figure out what to - what we're going to do, but for now, we have a full show and a full weekly show. I'm Andrew Sims.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Matt: I'm Matthew Britton.
Mikey: And I'm Mikey B.
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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is absent this week. So, we're going to have to handle the news without - without the big guy. What's he doing this week? I mean, it is a Friday night, so...
Mikey: I think we should do a Spy on Micah.
Andrew: Spy on Micah?
Laura: Yeah, we should call him.
Andrew: All right, should we call Micah real quick just to see if he'll answer maybe?
Mikey: Yes, we should call Micah.
Laura: Yeah, we should.
Matt: Yeah, let's call Micah.
Andrew: Well here's some heavy...
Matt: You know he's thinking about us right now...
Andrew: We'll hear some heavy, thumping club music in the background.
[Matt makes heavy, thumping club music]
Laura: And techno beats. Yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, techno beats. He'll be all out of breath, sweating heavily from all the dancing on the dance floor.
Mikey: Yeah, and while we call him it's going to be like [sings] "Somebody scream!"
Matt: We're going to hear someone in the background yell, "Micah, come on. You're missing out on the party. Woo!"
Andrew: All right. I'm calling him.
Andrew: You guys won't be able to talk to him, but - I could just...
Andrew: ...picture the scene now. He's on the dance floor, can hardly feel the phone vibrating in his pocket.
[Micah picks up]
Andrew: Yo Micah, what's up?
Andrew: Yeah, it's Andrew. What's up?
Micah: What's going on?
Andrew: Aw, man, the - the MuggleCast news studio. I can't do it without you.
Micah: Oh, really?
Andrew: Yeah. Well, what's going on? What are you doing?
Micah: I am out on the Upper West Side of Manhattan...
Micah: ...hanging out with college friends.
Andrew: College friends. Okay. Could you run back home? We really need you to do MuggleCast.
Micah: No. Sorry, I don't think I could do that.
Andrew: That's not...
Micah: The day after what went down in there.
Andrew: I don't appreciate that kind of attitude.
Andrew: I don't think you - you should be - you know.
Laura: He's fired
Matt: Yeah. He's done.
Andrew: We'll cover your - your cab. I mean we have some extra Pickle Pack money leftover.
Micah: All right.
Andrew: All right. So that's a yes?
[Micah ends call]
Mikey: He hung up on you.
Andrew: He hung up on me.
Andrew: All right, well, there you go. That's how we play Spy on Tannenbaum.
Matt: Is it me or did Micah sound kind of like - like he was trying to act cool in front of his friends kind of talk?
Andrew: He was trying to act kind of cool.
Matt: [imitating Micah trying to sound cool] Yeah, what's up, man? I'm out with my friends from college.
Andrew: All right, so let's get to the news without Micah. Big news this week. There was some big news. J. K. Rowling spoke at the Harvard commencement ceremony. She had a wonderful speech that lasted about twenty minutes. It was streamed live online so all the Harry Potter can - fans - and cans, I guess, could watch as well. I would like to quote the end of her speech. She said, "So today I could wish you nothing better than similar friendships" - She spoke a lot about her friends - "And tomorrow I hope that even if you remember not a single word of mine, you remember those of Seneca, another of one of those old Romans I met when I fled down the classics corridor in retreat from career ladders in search of an ancient wisdom. As is a tale, so is life. Not how long it is, but how good it is, is what matters. I wish you all very good lives." And J. K. Rowling got a very big standing ovation. At least five minutes. Big standing O.
Andrew: What did you guys think of this? I mean it was really cool of her to come to a U.S. college commencement ceremony.
Mikey: I wish that - I was going to say, I with that she had spoke at mine. All I had was some astronaut.
[Laura and Matt laughs]
Andrew: Some astronaut? [laughs]
Mikey: Yes, some astronaut. I was like, "Man, it would be so cool to have J.K. Rowling there."
Andrew: Well, it was funny because Jo was get - well, Harvard was under a lot of scrutiny. People were saying, "J.K. Rowling? That's - why an author? Why a children's book author?" And Harvard was saying, "Well, it doesn't have to be someone in politics, you know, to - to reflect a very powerful person in this world." And I thought that was kind of mean of some of the skeptics who didn't think Jo was a good choice.
Matt: Well, I mean, I don't think a lot of the Harvard graduates are like novelists and such. I mean, I don't think that's the majority of the people who study at Harvard.
Laura: Well, hey, Mikey, how many people from your school became astronauts?
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Mikey: Actually, quite a few. But this lady - yeah, this astronaut person just graduated like ten years ago and she just went into space and just got back. Andrew and
Mikey: She did some cool stuff, but...
Matt: "I just got back from the moon!"
Mikey: She just got back from that space station. It was really hot and long and kind of boring. I was text messaging people on my phone through the whole thing.
Matt: I thought it was really cute of J.K. Rowling when she said, at the beginning of her interview, that, "Thank you for inviting me to possibly the largest Gryffindor gathering ever."
Matt: Or something like that.
Andrew: She said if she squinted her eyes at the red banner she would feel like it's the largest Gryffindor gathering. [laughs] Which is so funny; she threw a couple Potter jokes in the beginning too.
Matt: And everyone got it.
Andrew: Everyone seemed to get it. She made a gay Dumbledore joke. It was...
Laura: Yeah, that was great.
Matt: I love the way - how Jo was dressed too. She looked like an actual novelist. You know, what everyone portrays a novelists to be, with her hair kind of pulled in the back. She had...
Andrew: She looked very studious.
Matt: ...more of a mousy appearance than when you see her with her hair all dolled up and stuff. She just seemed more, you know, approachable and more modest looking.
Andrew: Yes. [laughs] Yeah. So, that was a nice ceremony. And in other J.K. Rowling news, she actually filed another lawsuit, this time against Star Map. There's actually some of these in Hollywood. Star Maps are just like a giant map of the area and it'll show you where the private homes of stars are. And J.K. Rowling was on the London Star Map and she's suing them. She said, "The sole aim of London Star Map is self-evidently to incite, encourage, and enable members of the public to track down and locate the exact location of private residences of various recognizable celebrities so that they can visit those residences. I'm a very private individual who regards my family's privacy and safety as having paramount importance." Which is totally understandable.
Laura: Yeah. I would sue them too.
Andrew: I wonder how many stars have actually filed a lawsuit against London Star Map.
Matt: Well, J.K. Rowling has in the past, you know, had this huge privacy issue addressed too. This isn't the first time we've ever heard about this.
Andrew: Right. Yeah. This one seems to really - this is kind of a big one. It's funny because right on London Star Map's homepage, LondonStarMap.com, it says, "Like a real life Harry Potter Marauder's Map!" That was said by the London's Evening Standard.
Matt: Ooo. And they actually have like a little...
Andrew: They have a picture of Jo.
Matt: ...Marauder's Map fold-out, too.
Andrew: Yeah. And they have a picture of Jo there. But, yeah, so they're getting sued, understandably, by Jo.
Andrew: In movie news, no Trelawney in Half-Blood Prince. It was confirmed by Emma Thompson's representatives - or her agent - that she will not be in Half-Blood Prince. Which, I guess, is kind of disappointing.
Andrew: We didn't really see her much in Order either. Go ahead, Laura.
Laura: Well, I wonder how they're going have Harry find out that Snape was actually the one who overheard the prophecy.
Matt: Yeah, I doubt they'll even have that. They may just cut that entire part out.
Mikey: Yeah, I kind of agree...
Laura: Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.
Mikey: ...with Matt. That might just be out of it. Trelawney doesn't have like a pivotal role in this book.
Matt: No. You really only see her only a couple times, like when she and Harry are walking towards the corridor and she tells Harry about, you know, Snape overhearing her conversation, being so rude. But, yeah, she doesn't really have a very pivotal part in this book.
Andrew: In other movie news, Radcliffe and Griffiths are going to present at the 2008 Tony's!
Mikey: That's kind of cool.
Andrew: Yeah, that is pretty cool. It's - well, I think it's just to promote their upcoming Equus on Broadway.
Matt: Well, that's exactly what it is.
Mikey: Yeah, of course, that's what it's for.
Andrew: I mean, it wasn't really said. It was just - you know. They didn't...
Matt: Because it's already implied.
Andrew: I guess it's implied, but it's going to be June 15, and starting at 8PM eastern. It's actually also going to be streamed live online, so anyone can watch that.
Mikey: That's cool.
Mikey: I've never seen the Tony awards. I never really had an interest.
Andrew: You know, this year - they're doing - there's going to be a live performance of a song from The Lion King.
Mikey: I've seen that!
Mikey: I've actually seen that. It's really good.
Andrew: Yeah. Me too. Along with a couple of other little performances, so it's definitely something to look forward to for all of you theater goers.
Andrew: And lastly this week, the most interesting story online - I'm loving posting about it on MuggleNet - there are - new rumors have started about a Harry Potter MMORPG. Mikey, what does that mean? What does that stand for?
Mikey: Oh geez. I actually took a video game class. It's Massively Multiplayer Role-Playing Game.
Andrew: Yeah, and it's the biggest acronym.
Mikey: No, no, no! Wait! I'm sorry...
Andrew: No, that's right!
Mikey: ...I forgot the O. Massively Multiplayer...
Mikey: ...Online Role-Playing game.
Mikey: That's where the O comes in.
Mikey: Right, so...
Andrew: And Warner Brothers - what happened was, PotterSphere, another Harry Potter fansite, inquired with Warner Brothers about creating a massively multiplayer online role-playing game centered around Harry Potter. And Warner Brothers - the vice president of marketing for Warner Brothers - came back with the statement, "The notion of creating a Harry Potter MMORPG is something that we've been discussing at Warner Brothers. At this current stage, we are investigating the possibility of creating our own."
Matt: So basically, it's like the Harry Potter version of The Sims.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: Sort of.
Mikey: Or World of Warcraft! Or Star Wars!
Matt: Or World of Warcraft, of course.
Andrew: Second Life. I mean, the two biggest ones out there right now, I think, are WOW - World of Warcraft - and Second Life.
Andrew: Mikey, have you ever played an MMORPG?
Mikey: Yeah, I have. I'm not really a huge fan of them, it's not my cup of tea, but I have played them.
Mikey: I grew up, you know, on the computer, and I played a lot of the old, old, old ones. Like text based ones, you know, Dungeons and Dragons stuff. And I'm a complete geek, we all know this.
Andrew: I mean, I've admitted on the show, I think that I used to be extremely into The Sims Online. I think a Harry Potter MMORPG could have a lot of potential.
Mikey: Yes and no. I'm kind of worried how they would do it though. You know?
Andrew: Yeah. It would raise a lot of questions. I mean, it's definitely something that would have to be thought out and done right. I'm sure they don't want another flop.
Matt: You know, this may be a little more difficult too, because they're actually basing it on an all ready established world, that they're basing it on. Like in World of Warcraft, you can create other lands too, in case there's more people that play it, but there's only certain places...
Matt: ...you could go in the Harry Potter world.
Mikey: ...which are different servers basically.
Laura: Yeah, and I wonder just how they would do characters and stuff. Like, could you have your own character, or would you have to be like one of the main ones. You know?
Matt: Like - yeah. Like would you have to be...
Andrew: I could see...
Matt: ...a student? Or a goblin? Or a House-elf?
Andrew: I could see, like, you creating your own wizard or witch, and then like - yeah. I would imagine a lot of people would want to play as Harry Potter. So...
Mikey: Well, actually, here: Like Star Wars actually has a MMORPG. MMO...
Mikey:...I can't even do it - say it fast.
Andrew: That's all right. [laughs]
Mikey: But Star Wars has one. It's Empire At War, and you actually have a lot of options. 'Cause like everyone wants to be a Jedi, obviously, like if you're going to be in Star Wars you want to be a Jedi. Just like if you're going to do a Harry Potter one, someone wants to be like Harry Potter.
Mikey: And what happens is, to become that, like, super character that you want to be, it takes a lot of time and a lot of skill to get up to it.
Andrew: Oh, okay.
Mikey: Like, a lot of - like a ridiculous amount of time to where - you know, as much as I love Star Wars, I gave up on it after, probably like, six months of straight playing.
Andrew: Mhm. Yeah.
Matt: Well, they could probably do that by - you can just all be a wizard, and then they'll just scale you up by like, a First Year, Second Year...
Andrew: Yeah, that's true.
Matt: ...of a Hogwarts student.
Mikey: Yeah. And again, I think one of the reasons that World of Warcraft does really well is it's easy to power up. But there's so many levels and stuff like that too where - to become really good, you have to spend some time and have skill. And I think they have to make sure, if they do do this, to have it do anything, they'd really have to spend the time to actually have a good company to develop it and spend the time making it...
Andrew: Now the interesting thing...
Mikey: ...and not aim it at, you know, little kids, because...
Mikey: ...the minute they do that, they're going to lose all skill-level...
Matt: Because younger kids...
Mikey: ...and it's going to come...
Matt: ...are going to play these...
Andrew: Now, I haven't...
Matt: What? Sorry.
Andrew: Now, I haven't posted this on MuggleNet yet, but a very interesting article came out of a NextGen.Biz. An Online Entertainment company that has developed a Lord of the Rings online game called Turbine received a forty million dollar investment from Time Warner. What is Time Warner own? Warner Brothers. So, um...
Matt: You didn't give us a chance to answer.
Andrew: [laughs] It's very interesting because Warner Brothers invested forty million dollars into this company and it's already created an online game based off a book! So, I have an e-mail into Turbine right now, asking them: Is there a Harry Potter development going on? Because I know they would be less quiet than Warner Brothers. Because you know how Warner Brothers likes to be hush-hush over everything. But if you were going to put your money behind on a company developing the game, I would put my money behind Turbine. I mean, I'm no betting man in this situation, but...
Mikey: You're always the betting man, Andrew.
Laura: You're always - yeah.
Andrew: I'm not betting until I get an e-mail back... [laughs] ...from them.
Matt: "I'm not betting until I know I'm going to win."
Andrew: Yeah. Exactly. So, that's a very interesting story. We'll see what comes out of it. You know, it definitely seems like - MuggleNet has an online... [laughs] ...Harry Potter game. MuggleNet Interactive. I don't know if you guys ever played this.
Laura: I have not.
Andrew: MNI? Interactive.MuggleNet.com?
Mikey: It doesn't work on Macs.
Andrew: It doesn't?
Mikey: No. I tried it once and I gave up...
Mikey: ...because it didn't work at the time.
Andrew: Weird. Well, I think it may work now. I'm not sure. But anyway, moving on from news, let's go on to some announcements for this week.
Andrew: Let's talk a little more about...
Mikey: Announcements! Sorry.
Mikey: I work on a kids show. Of course I'm excited. Like, every time we go to a different segment, I'll be like, "Yay!"
Matt: But you've been saying stuff like that before you worked on a kids show, Mikey.
[Andrew and Mikey laugh]
Andrew: Anyway, Laura, where are we going to be this summer? Where is the biggest place we're going to be?!
Laura: Dallas, Texas.
Laura: [laughs] Well, and California. But we're going to be at Portus 2008 in Texas. And I think we've already promoted this a couple of times on the show. But definitely...
Matt: We have.
Laura: ..,if you guys want to come out and see a live show, if you've never been, or if you've been before, you should register. These conventions are so much fun! You will love it.
Andrew: At Portus, Jim Dale is going to be there. And I know we've been getting a lot of questions asking what kind of package you should get. The Podcast Palooza is on Saturday. So you could get an all-day Saturday pass, or you can get a pass for all Portus, which we recommend a lot more. Because you get access to a lot of - many more cool things. There's the ball, there's a ton of things you can sign up for. Soon, we will have Aziza on the show who helped us interview Jim Dale. We'll be having her on to answer your questions about Portus. One thing we should point out is that our podcast is going to be at midnight. It's going to be the final podcast going on at Podcast Portu - [stutters]... Portus Palooza.
Mikey: Woohoo! The best for last, Baby!
Andrew: Yeah, we're going to be - it's going to be starting at midnight, thankfully there we will be able to sell our t-shirts throughout the entire Palooza.
Matt: Our brand new Portus t-shirts, by the way.
Andrew: Yeah, whenever they come. I don't want to say anything about them yet. I mean, other than what I said last week. [laughs] But it will be going on at midnight, so I don't want anyone to be caught off guard, like, if they're bringing their parents with them and the parents are going to be like, "Oh, man, we came all the way out here for something that starts at midnight?" So, just so you guys know, but we did our Leaky Mug at Prophecy at midnight and that was a great success.
Matt: That was fun.
Laura: That was so much fun.
Laura: We won't pretend to be asleep this time, though.
Andrew: Right. We'll be alive.
Matt: Should we do like a MuggleCast meet-up before the show, too?
Andrew: Yes, we are also - to make it more worth you're money coming out here, I think we should also do some sort of MuggleCast meet-up, somewhere in the hotel, during one of the days. So, we have time to hang out with everyone besides the Palooza.
Matt: Yeah, and maybe have some games, and maybe like a Pin the Tail on the Donkey Pinata?
Andrew: And Laura's going to cook cake and brownies and all these home goods.
Laura: Oh, really?
Andrew: Yeah. I mean, well...
Mikey: Laura, you're cooking for us? All right!
Laura: I don't know if I need to suffer you guys by cooking; it's actually quite terrible, but, yeah.
Andrew: Oooh, okay. We'll get someone else.
Mikey: I'll cook! I'm a really good cook. I'll make stuff.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay. In other announcements, thank you to everyone who has been voting for us on Podcast Alley. I think we are number one right now, I'm sure.
Matt: Yeah, except not.
Andrew: Oh, no. We're number four actually. [laughs]
Laura: That's no good.
Matt: Keith and the Girl is beating us right now. Both the Keith and the Girl. Keith and the Girl, Keith and the Girl TV, and the Super Secret Backstage...
Andrew: That's Keith and the Girl, too. It's all Keith and the Girl.
Matt: Oh, it is?
Andrew: Vote for us at Podcast Alley. Help us get back up to number one. Hey, the Third Annual Wear Your MuggleCast T-shirt Day was a great success. It was this past - what was it, Monday?
Laura: It was June 2, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, it was Monday, and Matt and I took pictures. Still waiting on Laura and Mikey to take pictures...
Laura: Ooh, yeah.
Mikey: Dude! I wore my MuggleCast shirt to work the other day. You guys were just asleep when I left.
Andrew: Oh, right.
Matt: Oh, that's right, but we were awake for the rest of the day.
Mikey: Yeah, well, you didn't take a picture of me. I don't have a camera at work.
Andrew: And lastly, Laura, did you have this announcement?
Laura: Yeah, I did. So, despite the fact that I made it very clear that there was no need to flood the P.O. Box with gifts and things for Andrew...
Laura: ...you all did it anyway. So I'm sure Andrew is very thankful for that, but essentially...
Laura: ...I told my mom to go check the P.O. Box and she came back with this huge stack of envelopes and she was like, "These are all for Andrew!"
Laura: I was like, "Oh, good. I love that they listen to me." But...yeah.
Andrew: [laughs] Well, I can't wait to read them all. Thank you to everyone who sent those in. That's very sweet of all of you.
Andrew: Let's move to Muggle Mail this week. Matt, do you want to take the first one?
Matt: Sure. First Muggle Mail comes from Freddie Doyle, age 14 from Quincy, Massachusetts. Freddie writes:
"Hey, dudes. If I were a betting man, I would say that someone will laugh at that."
[Everyone forces a laugh]
Matt: "I just thought when you mentioned at the 10th edition of 'Sorcerers Stone' comes out on September 23, that I should point out that this is the same day that the third book in the 'Inheritance Trilogy: Eragon, Eldest, Brisingr...'"
Mikey: Yep, it's Brisingr.
Mikey: All right.
Matt: "..is released. P.S. Andrew, did Laura send you the cookies?"
Mikey: Aaah, Laura. You got caught!
Laura: No, I - honestly, I looked at this and I have not gotten any cookies in the P.O. Box. I mean - and I've only been home for two weeks. So, tell me when you sent them and if you sent them before...
Andrew: Oh, maybe.
Laura: ...I got home from school, maybe my mom, or my brother ate them, but...
Mikey: Likely story.
Mikey: Likely story.
Laura: If they were sent before I came back from school, I can't make - take any accountability for them. I'm sorry.
Andrew: Well, we'll have to investigate that...
Andrew: ...but I just thought this email was interesting because maybe, random theory, but maybe Scholastic was thinking, "Oh, gee, since people, fantasy enthusiasts, are already going to be going out on the 23rd to get the next book in the Inheritance series that they'll pick up SS 10th Edition." Maybe? No?
Mikey: Maybe. I'm...
Andrew: The timing's kind of...
Mikey: ...picking up Brisingr.
Andrew: We have a voicemail about the 10th Edition Sorcerer's Stone coming up later in the show that was a pretty interesting question.
Mikey: Actually, you want to know something funny about that Inheritance series?
Matt: What is it?
Mikey: It used to be the Inheritance Trilogy, but this third book...
Mikey: ...is no longer the ending because he couldn't finish everything in three books.
Mikey: So now there's a fourth book.
Andrew: We actually talked about that on the show and how cheap it was for them...
Mikey: I'm really...
Andrew: ...to do that.
Mikey: ...disappointed because I was...
Mikey: ...like all excited like, "Dude, I want to find out what happens. I don't know how he's going to wrap it." Yeah, that's too bad.
Andrew: You know, people are calling Jo cheap for, you know, trying to protect her encyclopedia. I mean look at this guy; he's splitting a final book into two. [laughs]
Laura: Well, I mean...
Andrew: I guess Warner Brothers is doing the same thing..
Matt: If he wants to...
Andrew: ...for the film.
Matt: ...finish - I mean, if he wants to...
Matt: ...finish his trilogy on a good note and he feels like he can't really do it all in one book, and he has to do another book, I mean, just let him. Geez, it's like...
Mikey: No, no I agree. It's just the first two books I have to say, "Book 1 in the Inheritance Trilogy." Now it's going to be like, Book 3 is going to be like...
Mikey: ..."Book 3 in the Inheritance Series," and I'm going to be all sad.
Mikey: They're not going to match.
Matt: That's true. Trilogy plus one.
Andrew: Right, plus one. [laughs]
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