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Show Intro


[Intro music begins]

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[Harry Potter theme plays]

Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you all enjoyed - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!

[Show music begins]

Micah: Because it has been one year since the release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, this is MuggleCast Episode 154 for July 21st, 2008.

[Show music continues]

Andrew: All right, well we're coming off of our big Portus show, live in Portus, and this week we have two gentlemen with us, who haven't been on the show in a while. First, Eric.

Eric: Hey!

Andrew: Eric, welcome back; it's been a while.

Eric: Thank you, good to be back.

Andrew: Where are you these days? Are you, like, back in New Zealand, or...

Eric: Ah, no, these days I am in Chicago, and I - since I was last on the show. I got a job.

Andrew: Ooooh.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: What's your job?

Ben: You work at Target?

[Everyone laughs]

Eric: Yeah, I'm trying to pick up a career there. I heard Laura was doing that, so - ah, no, I work for - I work for RedBox. You guys ever hear of that?

Andrew: Yes, that would be the DVD rental service.

Eric: Yes.

Andrew: Just one dollar a day.

Eric: Yes, yes indeed it is.

Ben: Oh, those are the ones outside of McDonald's?

Eric: McDonald's, and super markets, and all that stuff, so...

Ben: So how do you work for them? Like, what do you do? Do you go pick up the DVDs? Do you come - what, go collect cash? Or what do you do?

Eric: [laughs] Each week you put in the new movies that go in the following week. And take out all the old ones that no one wants running anymore.

Ben: So you have to do a lot of running around, then, huh?

Eric: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Every kiosk is, you know, couple, you know - they have them spread out all over Chicago; there's hundreds, so...

Andrew: Do you cover everyone in Chicago, or...

Eric: No, no. There's about, like, ten different people that do it.

Andrew: Hmm.

Ben: So [unintelligible] you're a humanitarian, providing movie services for all Americans.

Eric: For cheap! For cheap. Absolutely. It's kind of a cross between my computer experience and my movie theater job, so I really love it. But yeah! Thanks for asking. So did the responsible thing and got a job.

Andrew: Also this week, Ben's returning. Hey, Ben.

Ben: Hey, Andrew.

Andrew: Where have you been, Ben?

Ben: How are you? Huh?

Andrew: I'm good, thanks.

Ben: How - Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben?

Eric: How've you been, Ben?

Ben: I've been great. I've been - just got back from New York City. Went out there, had a good time. Saw a bunch of friends, saw people, saw big buildings...

[Someone laughs]

Ben: Saw pink berry, tried pink berry. It was pretty good.

Eric: Did you see pigeons?

Ben: Other than that, I've just been living life, you know, getting ready to go back to Notre Dame here in about a month. And - yeah! I saw that we're - you know, it's been about a year since Deathly Hallows, and so...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I decided it's time to come back to the show.

Andrew: Well, I'm glad you brought that up because that's going to be the big focus of our show this week. Now that we're finished Chapter-by-Chapter, we're going to talk about how it's been one year since the book was released. We're recording on the 20th, so, I mean, this was the night we were all at our respective release parties, and - oh boy, do I miss it.

Eric: Actually, yeah, by now we were back at the hotel.

Laura: Actually a year ago. Yeah, we were all reading it this time a year ago.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. Tom Rutland actually IMed me a little bit ago at quarter after midnight, England time. He was like, [in a British accent] "Mate, do you remember? We were - we were there a year ago tonight. Chip Chip!" But - yeah, so it was good. So we'll talk about all that coming up on the show, and of course all the latest news stories. So, I'm Andrew Sims.

Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matt Britton.

[Music continues]

Andrew: All right, Micah Tannenbaum, what's in the news?



News: Teaser Trailer


Micah: Well, we're supposedly going to get a teaser trailer for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince...

Andrew: No, we're not. I don't believe you.

Micah: ...on August 1st, with the release of the new Mummy movie.

Ben: Oooh.

Micah: And who's all going to go out and see that lovely movie to...

[Eric laughs]

Micah: ...heck out the teaser trailer.

Ben: Are you guys bashing The Mummy?

Andrew: No, I'm not - I'm not a Mummy fan. Is anyone else?

Eric: Dude, I'm not bashing The Mummy. I love The Mummy. If I...

Ben: I thought - I thought The Mummy was awesome. The other two were cool.

Eric: Dude, here's how much I like The Mummy.

Laura: No, I really liked the first two.

Eric: Here's how much I like The Mummy: I was going to go see the movie before - before I knew that the trailer - or whatever they're going to call it - maybe it'll be twenty-five seconds...

Micah: But you're a movie junkie.

Eric: Yeah, but The Mummy - The Mummy in particular is a big thing for me.

Micah: Well, The Mummy was okay, and then what came after it? The Scorpion King? Or was that a spin-off?

Eric: No, The Mummy Returns.

Micah: Oh, The Mummy Returns, then The Scorpion King.

Ben: Then The Scorpion King.

Eric: Which was a spin-off. Yeah. Which I - I even went and saw that in theaters, so - that's - yeah, big on that.

Andrew: So...

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: ...at this point it's either going to be with The Mummy or Star Wars, and...

Ben: There's another Star Wars?

Andrew: Star Wars: The Clone Wars. It's the animated Star Wars.

Ben: What?

Andrew: It's - George Lucas is behind it, so I guess it should be pretty good.

Ben: Oh, he's just trying to make more money.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: But I love him.

Andrew: So, either one of those two. I'm going to put my money down on Mummy, just because that's the rumors - we never got rumors about Star Wars.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: They were about The Mummy, so I'm going to stick with our...

Eric: Well, now you say WB confirmed it, or reportedly - like, who did they confirm it to?

Andrew: No. No, nobody. Well, it's just - people who work at movie theaters have been talking to marketing reps at WB, and they have said The Mummy.

Eric: I see.

Andrew: So...

Eric: Because if they emailed you, you should just say - you should, like, send a nasty e-mail back. Like, if they're like, "By the way, these things are slightly more true," you should be like [spitefully] "Thanks."

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: You know, because how long has it been? Seriously?

Andrew: Well, yeah. We're long overdue for a trailer and...

Matt: Well, the movie comes out in three months.

[Eric laughs]

Ben: What? Actually 123 days, 5 hours, 11 minutes, and 50 seconds...

[Eric laughs]

Ben: ...if you want to be exact.

Andrew: Oh, thank you. MuggleNet countdown. Yeah. So, it will be exciting when it comes out.

Micah: The shorter trailer - I don't even know if you can call it a trailer, right? It's like a teaser teaser trailer? - was released with The Dark Knight in IMAX this past weekend, and it has one line with Michael Gambon speaking and that's about it.

Andrew: Here - here we got it. So, we're going to play it and we're all going to be enthralled, and we're going to be like, "Wow, this was definitely worth the wait."

Ben: [as Dumbledore] Once again I must ask you to do the impossible, Harry.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: All right, let's play the real clip now.

Micah: That was the real...

Eric: That was the real clip.

Andrew: No, that wasn't the real clip.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

[Clip begins]

Dumbledore: Once again, I must ask too much of you, Harry.

["Hedwig's Theme" plays]

Andrew: Ooooo......

[Clip ends]

Ben: I can't hear what he said. It sounds - to me it sounds like, [as Dumbledore] "Once again, I must ask you once again, Harry."

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: "I must ask too much of you, Harry. It's like - it's almost too hard to understand, he's like mumbling.

Matt: Well, it's not even proper english is it? [mumbles] "Once again, I must ask too much of you."

Andrew: It's like, at WB, they were like, "Michael, Michael, come here, real quick. We need you to do something."

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: You guys, you know this comes back to the fact that he hasn't read the books, you know?

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: If he would have read the books, he probably would have said that line clearer.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: He's not confident? So he's just sort of like...

Ben: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Laura: I don't know.

Eric: So - so that was for all the people who paid $300 to go see The Dark Knight in IMAX?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: In IMAX, yeah.

Eric: People got that little...

Ben: People paid $300?

Eric: Thanks WB. Yeah, yeah, dude, at least in Chicago that's how it is. IMAX is booked...

Andrew: Really?

Eric: I was down there at noon today, and they were booked, every showing through Wednesday of The Dark Knight in IMAX.

Andrew: What - what - and people - what do you mean, like ticket scalpers were selling them for $300...?

Ben: Yeah.

Eric: There was a women who sold three tickets for $180, and there was something else that was.

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Eric: Yeah. These people will buy it just to go see the movie - go see it. Seriously? I would get tickets and sell them for that much money. And wait a week. But...

Andrew: Well, I don't mean to brag, but MuggleNet was the first person - first site to report that IMAX was going to have that teaser teaser trailer. Even though it was kind of disappointing. But...

Laura: Well, that's fantastic because that trailer was life altering.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Thanks to our [unintelligible].



News: Dark Knight Highest Grossing Weekend Film


Andrew: What else is going on, Micah?

Micah: Well, The Dark Knight, wasn't it the highest grossing movie in a single weekend?

Andrew: All time. Yeah, the weekend. Yeah. It beat Spider-Man 3.

Ben: Who saw it? Who saw it?

Matt: I saw it, I think everyone saw it.

Ben: I saw it too.

Andrew: I saw it. Think everyone - Micah and Laura, did you guys see it?

Micah: No I did not.

Laura: No, I did not. I haven't seen it yet.

Andrew: Aw. Come on, guys.

Ben: Get with the times!

Andrew: Go see it.

Ben: Get with the times.

Matt: I've seen it three times already.

Micah: I'll have to go to IMAX so that I an see that really cool teaser trailer that we just talked about.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: That's what I'm doing. I'm going to pay $300 for it.

Ben: You can capture it with your iPhone.

Eric: Dude, dude, dude...



Is WB Making a Marketing Mistake?


Andrew: You know, some people have been saying that Warner Bros. is getting themselves into a marketing nightmare. Like, this is a huge marketing mistake. Just waiting so long. Would you agree with that? I mean, people are going to - it's still going to make just as much money as...

Eric: Well, just as like - Andrew, just like you were saying, it's like they just took Michael Gambon. It's like - it's like some WB representative just woke up one day and was like, "Oh, what date is it?" You know? Or he's like sitting on his couch at home and he reaches in the little pouch in beneath the cushions and he sees his to-do list: get a trailer together. For them, and he's like, "Oh, crap! Woah, woah, woah, wait. Michael Gambon." So, he calls him up and just asks him to record this and that's their teaser trailer. Like seriously...

Ben: Well, come on. This is at least - well, with the other movies, I think there's almost been too much. You know what I mean? Because, like, with Prisoner of Azkaban, there was always that one line that seemed to show up in every trailer that was just around all the time, where its like, "It is not in the nature of the Dementor to be forgiving."

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: And then like - but no, like, I'm dead serious, though.

Andrew: No, I hear you, yeah.

Ben: Like, with the previous films, I always felt like - I almost got worn - maybe it's because I work on a Harry Potter website, but I got worn out by seeing so much, like, of trailer material, you know? And at least we don't know what to expect going into the film at this point...

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: ...and maybe if we don't get that much footage beforehand, when we actually see the film, it'll be more enjoyable because...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...it will be more of a surprise.

Matt: Well, I agree with that.

Eric: Yeah, I think you're right.

Matt: They did the exact opposite with The Order of the Phoenix film.

Eric: Well - or wasn't it in Goblet of Fire they actually showed entire clips?

Laura: Yeah, they did, with Goblet of Fire.

Matt: They showed a lot really early, too, in the advertising.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: I didn't watch any of that crap, and I never watch any of that crap.

Matt: But whether you watch it or not...

Eric: It was made available.

Matt: ...they had it. Yeah. It was available for anyone to watch.

Eric: And that wasn't just crap. That was clips from the - from the actual film.

Matt: Hell, we saw half the movie by the time the movie was released.

Eric: Exactly. So I'm glad they aren't doing that, but still. It's, you know, two months away. You'd think they could do, you know...

Matt: Give us, you know...

Laura: I could go for a substantial trailer by now.

Eric: Yeah. Or maybe even...

Laura: I mean, that's all we want.

Matt: I don't even need a teaser, just a good trailer. I mean, we're even almost past due with a normal theatrical trailer.

Eric: It's just like - I mean - how many promo pics do we have? Maybe ten? I mean - the only reason - the only way to get promo pics is if someone smuggles low-res ones out, and WB says, "Oh wait, here's the..."

Matt: Mhm.

Eric: "...high-res of that."

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Well, there's not even any promo posters out yet, are there? It's just that...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: ...one that's black that says Half-Blood Prince.

Eric: I didn't even see that one.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: We need to get...

Andrew: It's nothing.

Ben: We need a janitor - we need to get a janitor insider at Leavesden.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Then - and then have - then give him a digital camera.

Andrew: Leavesden's closed now though. They have been done filming since March. It's like, you know - whatever. What else is going on, Micah?



News: Another Picture


Micah: Speaking of pictures, we got another one. [laughs]

Andrew: Yay.

Laura: Wa-hoo.

Micah: Of Harry and Professor Slughorn, so I guess that's...

Andrew: I'm loving these pictures of...

Micah: That's supposed to keep you satisfied, I guess, until this teaser trailer comes out.

Andrew: Yeah. I am loving these pictures of Slughorn. He's so, like, quirky and...

Eric: And non-Slughorn-y?

Andrew: And - what?!

Eric: [laughs] He doesn't have a mustache! Doesn't he have a handlebar mustache? He looks nothing like him.

Matt: I never pictured him with a mustache though.

Laura: Yeah, me neither.

Eric: Well, you should have. [laughs]

Matt: I mean, does it really matter if he has a mustache or not?

Eric: No. No. No. Not particularly, but I - I just - I don't know. I don't know how he looks. It like - truly analyzing the pictures of him, I just - I don't know.

Matt: The only thing that I don't really care for is that he's not short. Slughorn is short.

Ben: In this - in this photo isn't Harry holding...

Eric: Felix?

Andrew: The Half-Blood...

Ben: Yeah. The Half-Blood Prince book, and then he's - then Slughorn's holding the Felix Felicis, isn't he?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: It's pretty clear, though.

Ben: Yeah.

Micah: Yup.

Andrew: Why does it look like they're in an igloo whenever...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...they have pictures in the Potions room? It's like a rounded room. I don't know.

Eric: Well, see, that was...

Matt: This is where they did the Legilimency lessons, right?

Andrew and Eric: Yeah.

Eric: It's Snape's office, or...

Andrew: Right.

Eric: ...presumably.

Andrew: Formally.

Micah: Isn't Slughorn supposed to be fatter, too?

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, he is.

Andrew: Well, they actually did add padding on Jim Broadbent, but I guess it wasn't enough.

Eric: Yeah, I mean, on 120 pound man, you can only add so much padding.

Andrew: Yeah. I think it looks good though.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I'm happy with it.

Ben: That's not true. That's not true. You can add a lot more padding.

Eric: That's true.

Ben: Look at Eddie Murphy, the Professor.

Eric: Yeah.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Look at John Travolta in Hairspray.

Eric: Yeah, in Hairspray. Right.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: But still - I'll just reserve judgment until I see him act, because I - I really like the character of Slughorn, and I think they can do a lot with him in the movie.

Matt: Well, I think Jim Broadbent's a really good actor, so I think he'll portray it...

Eric: Yeah, I think so, too.

Andrew: Anything else, Micah?



News: Jim Dale at Portus


Micah: Well, we were at Portus last week in Dallas, Texas. Most of us were actually - we were coming home right about now, while we're recording.

Andrew: This time last week, yeah.

Micah: Jim Dale was down there. We could talk about him a little bit. I thought he did a really good job.

Andrew: Jim Dale was amazing. That was the best event sort of thing that could ever happen at a Harry Potter symposium, hands down. It was so - Jim Dale got so into it. He was reading from the - for anyone who doesn't know, maybe if you didn't read the post on MuggleNet, Jim Dale was reading from the audiobook - well, he was reading from the books, and he was extremely animated and he sang the Sorting Hat song, and he was doing all these fun different scenes. It was just so good. He really definitely made it worth everyone's while.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: So much fun. Right, Micah?

Micah: Absolutely.

Andrew: Weren't you impressed?

Micah: Yeah, I was impressed, and he had the crowd going. I mean, he was up there pretty early in the morning, too. It was about 9:00 in the morning, and there was a large number of people that were there, and he really kept the crowd entertained from the moment he took the stage until he finished up. Like you mentioned, he did a number of scenes from the first four books and he didn't miss a beat; he just kept going. And he's what? He's in his early seventies, I think.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: The guy had so much energy.

Andrew: He's old.

Micah: He really, really did.

Ben: That's awesome.

Andrew: Yeah. It was so cool.

Ben: I wish I could have been there.

Andrew: I know, Ben. I'm sorry you weren't.



Reflections on Portus


Ben: How'd the podcast go?

Laura: He was really nice as well.

Andrew: Yeah, he's a very nice gentleman. The podcast went great. Went off without a hitch. Just about midnight actually. It was actually on time. And everyone was there, excited to hear the show.

Ben: How many people was everyone? I'm just curious.

Andrew: I would say 300.

Ben: Really? Geez.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I saw a picture and I thought there was like ten people there.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No...

Eric: That was the meet-up though, wasn't it?

Andrew: Are you talking about the meet-up?

Ben: Oh, maybe I was talking about the...

Andrew: I think you were talking about the meet-up.

Ben: I saw, like, people...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...sitting in a circle in a room, kind of.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, that was the meet-up.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. That wasn't ten people. It was like 30 or 40.

Ben: Yeah, yeah. Sorry.

Andrew: It was very nice of people to...

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: I figured...

Andrew: It was...

Ben: ...since I wasn't there, no one came out.

Andrew: No. Oh, yeah, of course.

Ben: Just kidding. [laughs]

Andrew: No, no. That's a good transition into the meet-up. We also did a meet up on Saturday and that was a lot of fun, too. And I was so annoyed at the end of it because it went so well. If we had the proper mic equipment there it could've been a whole other podcast because we just talked about anything and everything Harry Potter. And everyone really enjoyed it. We talked about MuggleCast...

Ben: Were you guys wearing your suits?

Andrew: No.

Matt: No.

Andrew: We weren't dressed up.

Ben: How did the ball go?

Andrew: The ball was...

Laura: The ball was really fun.

Ben: Was there spontaneous bawling by anybody?

Andrew: Bawling? What do you mean bawling? [laughs]

Ben: Like crying.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Oh, no, no, no. None of that this year.



Matt Fractured His Foot


Matt: I broke my foot.

Laura: Yeah, Matt. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, Matt broke his foot, but... [laughs]

Ben: That's what I heard. Like, so - does that mean the MuggleNet has to have some, like, workman's comp for him or something?

Andrew: [laughs] No, he fractured it. It's okay.

Micah: So, does he have a cast now?

Eric: How'd that happen?

Andrew: He had a brace.

Matt: I have a boot.

Andrew: He has a brace. He hasn't been using it much, though. But...

Ben: You got to get healthy, Matt.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: The podcast needs your foot.

Andrew: You want to tell the story, Matt? Go ahead. Tell the story for the audience, how you fractured your foot at the ball.

Matt: I was dancing.

[Laura laughs]

Ben: What kind of dance?

Matt: And... [laughs]

Ben: What kind of dance was it? Was it freaking?

Eric: That's some hardcore dancing.

Matt: It was...

Ben: Was it juking? Was it grinding? Was it the two-step?

Matt: Well, it was - what is juking? No, I was just jumping up and down, and I landed on my foot sideways, and I heard it pop like three times.

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: So the dance was a lot of fun. They had a really cool Portus ice sculpture that was all lit up. It looked really, really cool. And they had Wizard Rock there, so that was a whole lot of fun.

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