MuggleCast 155 Transcript (continued)
Theatrical Trailer
Andrew: Well, now we - now we get to bitch and moan about the theatrical trailer, so...
Laura: Yeah. See now when is that going to come out? That really...
Andrew: I don't know. Let's start some movie rumors now.
Mikey: Yeah. What about the one that was part of the IMAX one? Did you guys talk about that at all?
Andrew: Yeah. It was terrible.
Laura: Yeah. It was basically nothing.
Andrew: Yeah. It...
Mikey: I like the line, and I thought that was kind of cool. It was like all mysterious, but it was just kind of like totally lacking. Like why would you put something like that before one of the biggest - the biggest movie opening of all time so far?
Andrew: Yeah. I just - I was so disappointed by that. It was just ridiculous.
Laura: Yeah.
Andrew: Do you think...
Ben: So do you guys think it's going to beat the Dark Knight?
Andrew: No. [laughs]
Laura: Yeah...
Elysa: No.
Ben: Come on, Potter fans. Let's start a rally. Let's do it.
Andrew: Yay.
Ben: Everybody go see the movie ten times in theaters.
Andrew: I'm really keen on starting...
Mikey: Ten times the opening weekend and to have all your friends go with you.
Andrew: I'm going to predict right now that the theatrical trailer will be released with...
Mikey: I call Clone Wars.
Andrew: Dude, that's like two weeks away. [laughs]
Mikey: Yeah.
Ben: With Mikey going with the bold call.
Micah: I mean, we're already into August, right? How...
Andrew: Yeah.
Laura: You think like - like - like...
Ben: How long do you need?
Laura: ...September? Early October?
Ben: Yeah...
Andrew: High School Musical 3. Done.
Laura: Oh God, no!
Elysa: Oh, geez.
Micah: I will not go see that movie.
Andrew: That's one month before...
Ben: Andrew's going to be at the midnight release.
Andrew: That's one month.
[Laura laughs]
Mikey: Andrew, Andrew. We'll go see it together. We'll go see it.
Andrew: I already have my - my tickets booked for - for that film.
Elysa: Oh, for what? High School Musical?
["What Time Is It?" by High School Musical cast begins playing]
Andrew: Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
Laura: No!
Andrew: Here's one of my favorite songs.
Laura: Turn that off.
Andrew: [sings] Summer time. It's time for a trailer. What time is it? Time for a trailer.
[Music stops]
Andrew: I don't know. Maybe. I'm putting my money down on High School Musical 3. Either that or the Chihuahua movie - Beverly Hills Chihuahua, with the worst trailer ever made.
Elysa: Yeah.
Andrew: Chihuahua! Don-don-don-da-don-don-don.
Laura: Oh yeah, we all...
Elysa: That's terrible.
Laura: ...saw that together. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah.
Laura: We all about died. Anyway...
Was It Worth Waiting For?
Andrew: Other - other trailer things to talk about? Anyone? Ben, how about you? I mean - well, I'll ask everyone. Do you think it lived up to the hype in the long wait? Do you think WB made it any different because of the wait, or what?
Ben: I don't think so. I mean, do you think they were still working on this? Do you think that this was, like, the eleventh hour and their editors just finished it? "Yes, tomorrow we can do it."
Andrew: [laughs] The eleventh hour.
Ben: Yeah.
Andrew: Well, no. I think it's been ready for a while. I think they just didn't know when to release it.
Ben: Do you think they were just trying like to - perhaps they have someone different who's in charge of marketing now or something. And they decided to stall on releasing the trailer.
Andrew: Maybe. I just think - because there were so many different rumors for this trailer, and so many strong rumors, and that's why I think that they actually didn't know what movie they were going to release it with. And our initial Mummy rumors - and it is coming out with The Mummy on Friday - our initial Mummy rumors said that Universal really wanted the trailer with The Mummy because The Mummy - they're thinking it's not going to do well in theaters, so they wanted The Half-Blood Prince teaser to boost ticket sales. And I think that makes sense. I'm not a Mummy fan. [laughs]
Elysa: Yeah.
Ben: Are you going to go see it, though? Are you going to go see the trailer in theaters just to get a...
Andrew: I may see it. I may plan it right so I can just hop in, see the trailer, and then go to Batman.
Ben: Oh, that's illegal, Andrew. That's illegal.
Andrew: [laughs] Is it illegal? Is there actually a law? I mean...
Ben: You have to have a ticket to enter the theater.
Andrew: Eh, that's true.
Ben: You can't just stroll...
Andrew: I do have a ticket.
Ben: ...up in there.
Andrew: I do have a ticket.
Ben: You don't have a ticket to The Mummy.
Andrew: I accidentally walked in to the wrong theater.
Ben: Oh, I see. "I thought I was going to the bathroom."
[Andrew and Elysa laugh]
Andrew: I saw the video and I just couldn't leave.
Mikey: Wow.
Andrew: So did - what about everyone else? Did you guys think it was worth the wait? Does everyone feel satisfied now?
Laura: I feel really satisfied.
[Ben laughs]
Andrew: Really?
Laura: Mostly because it completely...
Andrew: Grow up, Ben.
Laura: ...not what I expected.
[Ben laughs]
Laura: Ben, shut up.
[Andrew laughs]
Ben: No, just like - I'm sorry.
[Andrew and Elysa laugh]
Ben: Sorry.
Andrew: Naw...
Ben: Sorry.
Laura: Grow up!
[Andrew laughs]
Laura: Anyway - no. It's really not what I expected.
Andrew: Mhm.
Laura: I mean, from them. Typically these teaser trailers, you know - I was kind of expecting something along the lines of the Goblet of Fire teaser trailer, where they spent half of it using old footage of the kids, you know, and I was really pleased to see that the whole thing was new footage, because I wasn't quite expecting that. So, they always seem to think to throw in a flashback somewhere.
Andrew: Well, it's funny - the shots of Voldemort are flashbacks.
Laura: Are they?
Andrew: Yeah.
Laura: They're at least edited to look different.
Andrew: They're - yeah, they're at least used properly.
Micah: Laura, I hate to break it to you, but most of the trailer is a flashback.
Andrew: Ooh. Laura, you're dumb.
[Ben says something unintelligible]
Astronomy Tower or Graveyard?
Andrew: Well, there's also very quick flashes around Ginny. And there are three separate flashes and they're three separate frames. And there's an article on Rotten Tomatoes trying to figure out where that scene is, and somebody suggested it was from the Astronomy Tower. It's at 1:07. It's a blue flash. But then someone in the comments said it was actually from the graveyard scene in Goblet of Fire. And it's one frame so you can't really tell what on earth is going on. It looks like it's outside. I don't think it looks like the graveyard tower to me. But it is - they always love to embed little old clips in these trailers. And I...
Laura: Oh, you know what? It does look like it.
Andrew: Do you see that? It looks like what, the Astronomy Tower or...
Laura: It looks like the graveyard.
Andrew: Do you think so? Because I can't figure out, like...
Laura: Well - oh, you know what? It - I can see how it can look like both, because there's, you know - I mean it's really blurry. I wonder if this is where Dumbledore gets thrown off the Tower. Because it's a green curse, and then you see sky, and there's like - it looks like it's hitting a body. And...
Andrew: Right.
Laura: ...it almost looks exactly like it did when they hit Cedric with it in Goblet of Fire.
Andrew: Yeah.
Ben: Cedric!
Laura: Hmm.
Andrew: Yeah, I mean it does look like it could be from Goblet.
Ben: Oh, that would be cheap. They didn't even give us real...
Mikey: What flash are you talking about?
Andrew: It's at 1:07. It's not exactly 1:07. It's after - it's one frame. You have to go frame-by-frame, because even if you scroll through this trailer - see, because you see something in the background on the left. That's the clearest thing you can make out. And I just don't know - that just doesn't look like the graveyard scene to me. That's why I'm confused. It almost looks like the Mirror of Erised, but can't tell.
Ben: So you're saying that they took a shot from Goblet and put it in this trailer?
Andrew: Yeah. They did it with Order of the Phoenix too. They took the graveyard scenes.
Ben: That's lame.
Andrew: It's not that big of a deal.
Laura: It looks like buildings to me.
Andrew: Yeah.
Mikey: Yeah, no. It looks like buildings like in the left, and center.
Andrew: That...
Mikey: And then there's like all that going on in the center that's going on with the super white light. I don't know.
Andrew: Yeah, it's weird. This is going to sound really weird, but on the left where the hand is - it kind of looks like it's sticking out there - it looks like Mewtwo from Pokemon. It looks like Mewtwo's hand.
[Elysa and Laura laugh]
Andrew: It does! What?
Mikey: I'm not even going to respond because I have so much I can refer to Star Wars on this, just because you bring up Pokemon.
Ben: Really?
Andrew: Well, but it's real quick and I'm already done. So now you're the one dwelling on it, so joke's on you.
Mikey: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Andrew: All right.
Mikey: It looks like buildings.
Andrew: It's almost time to take a break, and we will be taking calls after the break, and we've got a couple of other things to get to. Does anyone have anything else to say about it before we go to break? Was anybody disappointed in anything?
No Snape in Trailer
Micah: The only thing I'll say - and I brought this up before - and I know we kind of mentioned that the Half-Blood Prince was a subplot, but I think nothing focusing on Snape at all on this trailer is a little bit disappointing.
Ben: Uh...
Laura: Eh...
Mikey: I don't think so, just because no one knew who the Half-Blood Prince was before the book came out, and I think at the same time, they kind of almost want that same mystery, where they're not like giving anything away before. Again, they're not really, you know - we know what happens, the book's out, but for the people that just follow the movies, they don't know who the Half-Blood Prince is, and, you know, what is the Half-Blood Prince? And now it's like all of this Voldemort stuff. So they really don't know what's going to happen.
Elysa: Yeah.
Mikey: And I think that's what I loved about Half Blood Prince, where so much happens and, you know.
Micah: I'm just saying...
Ben: For anyone who hasn't read Harry Potter...
Mikey: Yeah.
Ben: ...or, like, at least, like, know the plot from the movies, you know?
Andrew: Yeah.
Micah: Well, I'm just hoping that they did that character justice, because they haven't done him justice throughout the first five movies.
Mikey: You know what? Truthfully, they might have actually waited on this just because, since the seventh book has come out, you know, and Snape is such a big role, they probably - they may have reworked some stuff with him to make him give him that much more justice, 'cause he's such a huge role in the seventh movie. And book, I guess you could say. Because it is a book.
Andrew: Yeah. There's a new film with Alan Rickman coming out, and I saw the trailer for it in front of Mamma Mia. Does anyone know about this? I'm going to look it up real quick. But he's...
Ben: You saw Mamma Mia?
Andrew: Yeah. It was the worst film of all time. In a funny way.
[Laura laughs]
Mikey: Really? Didn't I tell you that when we were watching Batman? You were like, "I want to see it!" And we were like, "No, please don't."
Andrew: I still - well, I still wanted to see it. It was fun but it sucked. So, it's this movie called Bottleshock, and he plays this guy who comes over from the U.K. in something like - something about tea or something. And Alan Rickman - I love him. He's an awesome actor. But in every role - lately, at least - it just screams Snape. Like just the way he talks very slowly, and putting it this way. You know what I mean?
Micah: Well, even Jim Dale said he took Snape's - I mean, he took Snape's voice from Alan Rickman when he did the audiobooks, and this was, what, probably before...
Andrew: The movies.
Micah: ....Alan Rickman had gotten the role.
Andrew: Right. Because Jim Dale said they were friends.
Micah: Yep.
Andrew: So...
Ben: So...
The Hosts Make Some Phone Calls
Andrew: Before we go to break, Alex Carpenter wanted to get in here with his thoughts. He has a big Wizard Rock show coming up in just about - let's see, what time it is now. Eight o'clock. So, coming up in an hour or so. We're going to give him a call. He may be very nervous before the - you know, the pre-show nerves. You know. Ben and I, we never experience that on tour. Or Mikey, because we're just naturals, but Alex can get a little nervous. So we're going to give him a call. He's actually touring on the east coast right now.
Ben: Ooh. Fun.
Andrew: He better answer.
[Phone rings]
Andrew: Does he know who he's dealing with? We made him who he is.
[Phone goes to voicemail]
Voicemail: Hey, it's Alex. Sorry I missed your call...
Laura: Ah!
Andrew: Ah, that's real cool.
Laura: Oh, fail.
Andrew: Real cool. Alex.
Voicemail: I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Thanks. Have an awesome day.
Andrew: Have an awesome day.
Laura: Have an awesome... [laughs]
Andrew: Have an awesome day.
Alex's voicemail: To page this person, press five now.
Andrew: What a jerk! I texted him earlier. I said...
[Phone beeps]
Andrew: Hey!
Ben: Hey.
Andrew: We're doing a show! I text you an hour ago, you said, "Sure, I'll come on. Just call me before nine because that's..." Give you a call, straight to voicemail.
Ben: The ignore button. That wasn't even the - that wasn't even voicemail.
Andrew: Oh, you're right.
Ben: It rang twice. We got the ignore button.
Andrew: What a jerk. You know what? Sam Friedman's with him right now. I bet she's behind this. Jerk. All right, well, call us back if you want.
Ben: Don't say her name! [laughs] Just kidding.
Andrew: [laughs] Just kidding, just kidding. Sam's not a jerk. 'Kay.
Ben: Call her.
Andrew: Oh yeah! That's a good idea. All right. So we'll call her and demand that we speak with Alex immediately. We'll pretend like it's of great importance. Somebody fill the time.
Elysa: Where is he on the east coast?
Andrew: He's in - I want to say Providence, Rhode Island.
Elysa: Oh, okay.
Ben: Laura, let's sing Green Day songs. [sings] Do you have the time...
Ben and Elysa: [sings] To listen to me whine?
Laura: Oh my gosh, this is like - remember when we used to have those big debates about Fall Out Boy?
Sam's phone: Please enjoy the music while your party is reached.
["Cupid's Chokehold" by Gym Class Heroes plays]
Ben: Oh yeah
Andrew: [sings] She's the only one I got.
Sam: Hello?
Andrew: Hey, this is Andrew. What's up?
Sam: What the hell? Why did you come up on...? What the hell is going on?
Andrew: I - nothing. Is Alex there? Are you with Alex?
Laura: No swearing!
Sam: I'll be with Alex in a few minutes. Why, what's up?
Andrew: I need to talk to him now.
Ben: Go find him, this is urgent.
Andrew: This is urgent.
Sam: You need - you need what?
Andrew: Alex. Need him. Tried calling him, he didn't answer.
Sam: Okay. Okay. I'll have him call you as soon as I get back to the place. It'll be like ten minutes, okay?
Andrew: Oh forget it, forget it...
Ben: We're live right now.
Sam: What the hell?
Andrew: We're doing MuggleCast Live right now and he said he would come on and talk about his trailer thoughts, and I called him, and it went straight to voicemail.
Sam: Well, he's warming up for his show.
Andrew: Oh whatever. Whatever. No, I'm just kidding.
Ben: Nobody warms up for Wizard Rock.
[Andrew Laughs]
Sam: Is that Ben? What the hell is going on?
Andrew: All right. Nothing.
Ben: You don't even know. You don't even know.
Andrew: Thank you. Thank you, Sam.
Sam: Okay, bye, I'll go call him.
Ben: Buh-bye
Andrew: That was Sam Friedman. All right, so we're going to take a break. When we come back we're going to be taking your calls. We have a little announcement about a little charity effort we're doing with the live show today, and much more. Mikey, are you going to stick around, or what's the deal?
Ben: Mikey, stay.
Andrew: I think Mikey already left.
Laura: Oh, no you know what? He told me he had work to do.
Andrew: Oh, so he just left.
Ben: Boo.
Micah: I think his boss walked in.
Hosts Take a Break
Andrew: These people, the dedication has dropped to the show; I'm very disappointed. From Mikey and Alex, you guys are great. Anyway, all right, we're going to take a break. When we come back we're going to be taking your calls, playing Spy on Spartz, baby, and much more. This is MuggleCast live, we'll be back in just a few minutes.
["Mississippi Queen" by Mountain plays and fades into "More Than A Feeling" by Boston]
Andrew: [sings] MuggleCast live, Wednesday July 30th. Dun dun dun dun...
Ben: I just want to say whoever put that playlist together should be given an award.
Andrew: Oh, that was me, Ben!
Ben: Oh. Never would have guessed. [laughs]
Charity: Teddy Bears for Hope
Andrew: Thank you. [laughs] Anyway, welcome back, everyone. We have a lot of things to get to in the second half of this show. We're going to be taking your calls in a minute, so don't start calling yet please. First of all, we're kicking off a new little charity thing here on MuggleCast starting today, actually. We're starting it - today - with this live show. Okay, I got to stop bringing up UStream because it does that. Teddy Bears for Hope. Micah, can you explain this a little bit to the audience please? Micah Tannenbaum?
Mikey: Micah Tannenbaum? Are you there? I'm here, Andrew.
Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is not here. We'll get to it in a minute. Visit MuggleCast.com, go click on the banner on the top, it says "Teddy Bears for Hope." What we're doing is we're trying to raise money to send out teddy bears to people who are going through tough situations right now. It's this charity effort - that's a friend of Micah's. We're looking for five dollar donations from each person because it's five dollars a teddy bear, isn't that right, Micah? He tells me he's back and - oh! He dropped from the Skype conversation, that's what happened.
Laura: Yeah.
Andrew: Ah, I'm good at this live thing. Micah, can you explain Teddy Bears for Hope briefly? I went through it all, but do you want to explain it a little bit more?
Micah: Sure, basically, we've been talking about doing some kind of charitable effort on this show for a pretty long time, and we just couldn't figure out what to do and we came across this non-profit organization called Teddy Bears for Hope, and really what they do is they provide brand new teddy bears to children around the world whose lives have been ravaged by tragedy. And, you know, one of the areas of course that would come to mind in this country is down in New Orleans. I actually just came from there as Andrew, you mentioned earlier on in the show. And, you know, some of the victims of Hurricane Katrina are in fact children. And what we were thinking of doing was putting up a poll on the site and seeing where our listeners thought these teddy bears would be able to go. And there is a link I believe that you created, Andrew, with a banner on MuggleCast.com. People can go over, they can click on it...
Andrew: Yes.
Micah: They can read a little bit about the non-profit organization, they can check out the non-profit organization's website. There's a donate button that's located on this page, and you can give as little or as much as you want, there's no set amount. We just want to try and help out in any way we can. And then of course once it's voted on where these bears are going to be going we will of course follow through and let the listeners know. We'll get pictures and all that kind of thing and post them up on the site. But this is our chance to give back. You know, the fandom as a whole has always been so good about rallying around important causes. You know, I mentioned New Orleans, we don't have to do it with New Orleans. We could do it with New Orleans and another place, it really doesn't matter. We can - we can spread it out. But this is really just a great opportunity for us to give something back.
Andrew: Sure.
Micah: So...
Andrew Tries Calling Alex Again and Fails
Andrew: All right, and that's going to be going on for the next three weeks. We're going to be trying to raise money, so - and if it's a good success we'll keep it going even longer. I mean, why not? So, we'll keep you updated on MuggleCast. Switching gears now, Alex is ready. He's done his practicing. And he wants to call in. So, I'm going to give him a call now. If you don't know, Alex is the leader of the Remus Lupins, a very popular Wizard Rock band. They're my favorite, personally. I think they're excellent.
[Phone rings]
Andrew: I'm calling now. If he doesn't answer this time, I'm boycotting his music.
[Phone rings]
Andrew: Burn all his albums.
[Elysa laughs]
[Phone rings]
Andrew: Jerk.
Alex's voicemail: Hey, it's Alex...
Andrew: This is a joke. He had his chance.
Ben: Ooo .
Andrew Experiences an Earthquake
Andrew: "Call me back as soon as I can..." Before we get to anything else, I'd like to comment on a recent headline in the news.
["Taps" begins playing]
Andrew: Yesterday there was what many were calling a natural disaster. It was about quarter of noon, yesterday.
Ben: Oh, you make me sick.
Laura: [laughs] Oh my God...
Andrew: And I was stepping out of the shower, minding my own business...
[Ben laughs]
Andrew: ...and I opened the bathroom door. Things were great, it's another beautiful day. Trailer coming up this evening. And I noticed the ceiling begins to shake, and I think to myself, "Geez, the neighbors up there are being noisy." And before I know it, the walls begin to shake, as well, and little did I know I was in an earthquake. And I just wanted to let everyone know I am okay. I know a lot of people were worried. They may have saw my Twitter or my Facebook. I am okay. Mikey has also survived the earthquake. Did you survive, Mikey?
Ben: I don't know. He's working.
Andrew: He didn't.
[Everyone laughs]
["Taps" stops playing]
Andrew: But it's okay. We made it through. I just wanted to update everyone on that situation. Hope nobody minded.
Ben: Oh, I was just...
Andrew: It was very sad.
Ben: Well, it was so funny. I was sitting on the computer yesterday. I wasn't actually sitting on the computer.
[Andrew laughs]
Ben: I was at the computer.
Andrew: I was going to say.
Ben: But yesterday, this was about the afternoon, Andrew comes to me online and he says, "OMG! OMG! OMG!" And I said, "What?" And then he signed off, and then he came back and he said, "There was an earthquake." I was like, "What? No way!" And then I called his parents, of course, to make sure they knew that Andrew was okay. Yeah, I took the liberty...
Mikey: I remember that. Andrew IMed me and was like, "Mikey! Did you feel that?"
Ben: And then Mikey starts busting out all this data.
[Andrew laughs]
Andrew: He linked to...
Ben: "It felt like a 5.6."
Andrew: [laughs] It felt like a 5.6. But anyway...
Mikey: Guys, when you live with earthquakes all the time, you just go to USGS. The globe - they check everything.
Andrew: I didn't know that.
Mikey: It's just there. The best part, though - Ben, you don't know this - me and Andrew were talking and he said, "Did you just feel that?" We felt an aftershock at the exact same time.
Andrew: Well, earthquakes are amazing because Mikey and I - he was at work yesterday and it's like a half hour from where we live, in [unintelligible], and the moment he feels the aftershock, I feel it too, and it's just surreal to think something under the earth is shaking the ground where we can actually feel it at the same time.
Ben: Haven't you seen the movie Tremors?
Andrew: No. It's just surreal to me.
Mikey: I own the Tremors 4-pack with all the movies. It's pretty amazing, Ben. You should come by and we can watch all four of them.
Ben: Yeah, we can cuddle.
Mikey: Yeah.
Rules: No Shout Outs, Tacos, Twilight, and Mute the Stream
Andrew: [laughs] All right, we are going to start taking your calls now. I just want to lay a couple of ground rules first. We did this last time and it worked out very well, so we are going to do it again. No shout outs, please. You know, it's great you want to shout out to your friends, but please don't do it, it slows the show down. No Pickle Pack. I saw in the chat, there's like a TacoCast or something like that. No taco references. No Twilight references. Even though TwilightSource.com is a great website for all your Twilight needs. And mute your stream while you call. Do not have the stream of the show up while you place your call because then we're just going to hear it and it's going to sound bad. Everyone's going to hear it.
Ben: But, Andrew, then I can't hear myself.
Andrew: Well, just have it low and be prepared to turn it down the moment I answer your call.
Laura: And you'll get hung up on.
Andrew: Yes. Have a question prepared before you call, please. Some people place the call and like, "I don't know, I forgot what I was going to say." Have a question prepared.
Mikey: I like the people that want to call and just say, like, "So, how you guys doing?" I like that. It makes me feel special that people want to know how I'm doing.
Andrew: But it's ruining the pace of the show. It's ruining the pace.
Mikey: Know what? I like it when people want to know how I'm doing, Andrew.
Andrew: Okay, well...
Mikey: I feel like someone cares. Okay, I want to know that people care. But you know what? If you don't want people to know that, yeah. I care about everyone.
Andrew: Only call in once. Do not make repeated calls. It won't do you any good. I'm not going to answer if I keep seeing you call, or if your call comes on and you try to call back again. You only get one shot because everyone gets - we're trying to give everyone a chance. And we're trying - you know, this is all just to avoid slowing the show down, as I said. All right, so after being all mean with that, let's start taking a couple calls right now. Hello, Colin.
Call: Audience May Think Voldemort is the Half-Blood Prince
Colin: Hello?
Andrew: Hello, Colin! You're in MuggleCast Live. What's going on?
Colin: Awesome.
Andrew: Awesome!
Mikey: Totally.
Colin: Now I'm really here.
Andrew: So, what's going on? Got any questions?
Colin: What?
Ben: He's cutting out, isn't he?
Andrew: Yeah, a little bit.
Mikey: It's a little bit slow.
Andrew: Do you have any questions, sir?
Colin: I just re-watched the trailer, and I was thinking for a second, doesn't - to me it gives every thought that, like, that - to make people think that Voldemort is, like, the Half-Blood Prince. It doesn't mention any...
Andrew: It doesn't mention any Half-Blood Prince references? I
Mikey: Any Snape references or anything.
Andrew: Is that what you mean?
Colin: Well, the title, and then some [unintelligible], it would make, like, someone who hasn't read the books think that Tom Riddle's the Half-Blood Prince, just from the title and...
Andrew: Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, but that is the trick, my friend; that is the trick.
Andrew: Yeah, and we were sort of talking about...
Colin: And...
Andrew: Go ahead.
Colin: I know you guys mentioned that earlier about how we didn't see any Snape, but it bugged me how it just - it's going to make all like the non-readers think that that is...
Andrew: Right.
Colin: That Tom Riddle is the Half-Blood Prince.
Ben: That makes for a good movie. If they spend the entire movie thinking Tom Riddle is the Half-Blood Prince, and then when they find out what it really is, you know?
Elysa: Yeah, that's a fair point, because if you think about it, we went into the book not having any idea, but the people who haven't read the book are going to go into the movie with assumptions. So there is a slight difference.
Andrew: Mhm.
Micah: At the very least I would say...
Colin: I guess that's kind of the same because... [audio cuts off].
Andrew: All right, well thank you, Colin. Micah, what were you going to say, Micah?
Micah: Well, kind of going off what Colin was saying before, at the very least, you know, throw the book in there. Throw the Potions book in there, so there's at least some tie to the title of the movie.
Andrew: Well, the Potions book was in the very first picture.
Laura: Yeah.
Andrew: What, Laura?
Laura: Non-readers of the book aren't going to make the connection between the Potions book...
Ben: Why does it matter? My question is: why does it matter?
Andrew: Well, it doesn't necessarily matter.
Micah: It doesn't.
Andrew: It is kind of misleading, but I guess because there is so much focus on Tom Riddle, and then it says Half-Blood Prince, so you do assume.
Alex Carpenter Finally Makes it to his Phone
Alex: Hello?
Andrew: Alex Carpenter.
Alex: There we go. I'm sorry.
Andrew: What's going on? It's okay.
Ben: [singing] Lumos 2006.
[Andrew laughs]
Mikey: Hey, buddy.
Andrew: You're preparing for a show.
Alex: Hey, man. I am. It is a hectic evening. We are in Providence and just setting up for a show, yeah.
Andrew: Are you excited for the show? You've been on tour for a while, haven't you?
Alex: This is like show nine million of this tour here.
[Andrew laughs]
Alex: It's crazy.
Andrew: So, I...
Alex: For like almost two months.
Andrew: I assume you saw the trailer. What did you think of it? Were you happy...
Alex: Oh man.
Andrew: Yeah?
Alex: It is so awesome.
Andrew: Yeah.
Alex: It's out of control.
Andrew: Yeah.
Alex: I saw it. I have to admit, I liked it better without audio, like I saw it on an iPhone without audio first...
Andrew: Yeah?
Alex: ...and then I heard all the talking and that was cool.
[Andrew laughs]
Alex: Dumbledore, like, just being Gandalf with the fire all around him.
[Andrew laughs]
Alex: That was so amazing.
Andrew: Yeah. Well, we were saying that it's really true to the books too. It actually looks how it was actually described.
Alex: Yeah, it's pretty BA.
Andrew: Yeah.
Alex: I have to say. I'm excited to see how the whole thing is realized.
Andrew: Yeah.
Alex: But I'm sure they're going to cut out everyone's favorite part because they always do.
Andrew: Which is what?
Alex: Whatever that is.
Andrew: Oh.
Alex: I don't know. For every person it's something different. They always cut out everyone's favorite part.
Andrew: That's true. Has this trailer inspired you to write any new songs perhaps?
Alex: [laughs] Since last night...
Mikey: Like songs you're going to sing right now?
Alex: [laughs] I wish it had.
[Andrew laughs]
Alex: Funny about that trailer.
Ben: [sings] Trailer 2008.
Alex: [sings] I'm super excited that Bonnie Wright doesn't look like a little girl, because it would be creepy...
[Andrew laughs]
Alex: [continues singing] ...when her and Dan Radcliffe hook-up... [laughs] ...because they're going to...
Andrew: See, you could turn that into a full-fledged song.
Alex: Were you guys concerned at all about that?
Andrew: What?
Alex: I was concerned because she looked...
Mikey: I totally was concerned.
Alex: ...like a little girl in the last movie.
Andrew: Yeah, she did look ridiculous.
Alex: I hope that's what they accomplished.
Andrew: I agree, thank you.
Alex: Yeah.
Andrew: Yeah.
Alex: Yeah.
Andrew: She gets attacked in this one, poor girl. But - all right, well, we'll let you go, Alex.
Alex: Did you guys enjoy it? Did you scream like little fangirls perhaps?
Andrew: Oh, yes. You're talking about my video on YouTube?
Alex: I enjoyed it. I watched it a couple of times.
Andrew: Oh, yes.
Alex: It kept me laughing on tour.
Andrew: Good. Excellent. Anything to help you and the tour.
[Alex laughs]
Andrew: All right, well, we'll let you go. Thank you, Alex, for calling in.
Alex: Have an awesome rest of your show.
Andrew: You too. Have a good show, man. Good luck. I'm sure you'll do fine.
Alex: Thank you.
Andrew: You guys are great.
Alex: All right, bye.
Andrew: All right, bye. All right, that was Alex Carpenter of the Remus Lupins. Good guy. I like that guy. Let's take another call now going with this voice streak. Hello Nick - no, boy streak, excuse me. Hello, Nick.
Nick: Hi.
Andrew: Hi. Welcome to the show.
Call: The Little Details
Nick: Hi. All right, I have less of a question but a comment. All right, are you ready?
Andrew: Yeah.
Nick: Now, I love the books and I don't really like the movies as much, but WB makes it so hard. Dumbledore is supposed to have auburn red hair when he goes to visit Tom Riddle.
Andrew: Ah, yes.
Laura: Harry is supposed to have green eyes.
Andrew: [laughs] But hair is much more obvious, Laura.
Nick: See, is it really that hard to make those little details true to the book? They just have to look at the book.
Laura: But, I mean, does it really matter?
Mikey: Yeah, but at the same time, Harry is not supposed to be Dan Radcliffe, you know, handsome, and Ron is not supposed to be the way - these people are not...
Ben: We all know Hermione is not really that hot.
[Andrew laughs]
Mikey: Seriously, so...
[Ben laughs]
Mikey: ...at the same time, you know, they're trying to sell tickets, man. I totally agree with you in a lot of aspects but it's movie-making, it's magic.
Nick: But he just looks stupid. I mean, like, wouldn't it be so much cooler if he had red hair in the trailer? It would be like, "Wow! He looks so different."
Andrew: He would look younger.
Mikey: At the same time, you got to...
Nick: He still has gray hair. I mean...
Mikey: But you got to remember, though, at the same time, like, people that don't read the books, will they know who that guy is with red hair? Will they? Honestly, like...
Ben: That's probably why.
Mikey: In fact...
Nick: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Mikey: ...just a minute ago, like I'm at work, I had two people come to my office, and I showed them the trailer, and they didn't know who that little kid was until the very end with the flash with Voldemort. Like I knew who it was instantly when I saw him. I was like, "Dude, he looks like, you know, how it should be."
Nick: Right.
Mikey: You know these two people had no clue who he was. It was like, "Who's that kid? Is that like Harry's brother or something?" They actually asked me that.
Nick: Right.
Mikey: And I'm just like, "Watch," and it wasn't 'till the very end that they saw the flash that they put two and two together. And I think a character like Dumbledore, because there's nothing to make it sound like Dumbledore, short of the name, and people sometimes miss audio, like, in a movie. I think that's one of the reasons they can't change them that much. They can't put a different actor in Gambon's place for that flashback scene.
Andrew: It kind of takes...
Micah: They didn't put a different character in Harris' place for the flashback scene when Tom Riddle was in school, either, so it's movie-making. There's a lot of decisions made for that.
Andrew: It also kind of takes away from the darkness, I think, because that whole scene is very dark, and who's this younger Dumbledore with some red hair? I mean...
[Nick laughs]
Andrew: ...if you look at the scene, there's basically two colors. Well, three: black, white, and gray. It's just a very depleted scene. I mean, just look at even the doors, it's just a dark green. Everything's just dark color, and I think it would take away from the style, the color style, that they were going for.
Nick: Right. Which is exactly the same as when they went back in the past in Chamber of Secrets. It was like basically black and white.
Andrew: Right, exactly, yeah. And it's too much of a distraction. Everyone's going to be like, "Why does he have red hair? What the hell's going on?" So...
Mikey: Yeah, again, I know it's not true to the book, but when you think of it from a visual standpoint, in our minds we can imagine this amazing thing, and, truthfully, everything I imagine in my mind is probably about a hundred times better than what they put on film, but at the same time, I still think some of the stuff they do is way cool.
Andrew: Mhm.
Mikey: So it's a visual standpoint, what they can actually physically pull off, what they can do, and what makes sense for people that aren't reading the books, because, again, that's a huge fan-base for them. You know, this movie reaches out to - my parents don't read the books, but they go see all the movies. So it's one of those things where you really have to think about how many people are going to go see this movie.
Andrew: Yeah.
Mikey: You know, not just your core audience.
Nick: You're right.
Andrew: All right, thank you, Nick, for the call.
Mikey: Thank you.
Nick: All right, thank you.
Andrew: Have an awesome day. I'm going to start taking that. I'm going to steal that from what's-his-face. No, I don't want to accept video. Hello, Lucas.
Call: Voldemort is Gay?
Lucas: Oh - hold, on I got to make sure...Okay, am I the only one that thought Dumbledore was going to say that
Voldemort was gay when he was like, "You're different, like me"?
[Everyone laughs]
Andrew: Not really. I was...
Mikey: No, but I think I will start saying that.
Laura: No.
Mikey: I think I agree with you on that one, one hundred percent now.
Andrew: Laura?
Ben: There were flames after that.
Laura: Um...
Andrew: "You're different," and then he sends up the flames. Yeah, maybe they are trying to say something.
Laura: And then he makes him prove it.
[Ben laughs]
Andrew: Prove it.
Mikey: You know, to [unintelligible], Dumbledore there is like nine years old, or eleven years old, guys. It's kind of wrong to think that.
Andrew: Yeah, you're right.
Mikey: Prove it? Really?
Ben: Dumbledore's only eleven?
Mikey: You had to say that? When Voldemort's only eleven in that scene, and you say "prove it"? That's just really wrong, guys. I don't know if I can stay on anymore.
Andrew: Okay, bye. [laughs] Just kidding.
Mikey: I'm just saying, don't say those bad things. That's bad.
Andrew: All right, thank you, Lucas, for that. Take another call now. Hello, caller. [silence] Hello, caller, that's you. Yeah, Monster Hospital. Yeah, hi.
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