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MuggleCast 156 Transcript

Show Intro

[Intro music begins]

Micah: Over the next three weeks, MuggleCast will be teaming up with Teddy Bears for Hope, a non-profit organization that provides teddy bears to children affected by homelessness, disease, and neglect.

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[Show music begins]

Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you all enjoyed - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!

Micah: Because it's three years and 155 episodes later, this is MuggleCast Episode 156, August 7th, 2008.

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Andrew: All right, it's time for another week of MuggleCast, and we have a very special interview this week, isn't that right, Laura?

Laura: That is right, Andrew.

Andrew: Who are we interviewing?!

Laura: We are going to be speaking with the author Stephenie Meyer, who wrote the Twilight saga.

Andrew: O...M...E...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: ...for "Edward." We've decided to have Stephenie Meyer here on the show this week because we've talked about Twilight here on MuggleCast so many times, and a lot of our listeners decided to read it because of our recommendation, and they realized, "Oh wow! This is great!" So, we want to get more of you guys interested in Twilight. We're going to hear about what Stephenie Meyer has to say about the Harry Potter fandom and also Breaking Dawn, as well. So I'm Andrew Sims.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matt Britton.

[Show music continues]

News: Beedle the Bard Being Published

Andrew: All right, like I said, we have a big show today, but first, Micah, what's in the news?

Micah: Nothing.

Andrew, Laura, and Matt: Aww.

Andrew: It's close to nothing, but...

Micah: Well, it's been another slow week, I guess you could say, but the one piece of news that we have gotten has been pretty big. The - I guess Scholastic has decided to go ahead and publish The Tales of Beedle the Bard. And the post that was on MuggleNet had mentioned that all the sort of clearance that was necessary to go ahead and publish this was given. Wasn't it that had the winning bid?

Andrew: Exactly. At 4 million dollars!

Micah: They gave the go ahead to publish this, I think primarily because all the proceeds are going to be going to charity...

Matt: Uh-huh.

Micah: ...and the charity that's going to be benefiting from this is the Children's High Level Group, which is an organization that J.K. Rowling helped to find, and, you know, start up, so the book will be released on December the 4th. Anybody thinking that there's going to be a midnight release for this potentially?

Matt: I think there could possibly be a midnight release.

Micah: It's winter time, so it'll be cold.

Matt: I don't think it's going to be as widespread as a regular Harry Potter book, but I could see potential in a Borders or Barnes and Nobles having, like, a release party for it because it's still a J.K. Rowling novel.

Micah: It is. Were you guys surprised by this? I mean, did you foresee it coming? Did you think when you first heard about this book - you know, wasn't it the other copies went to select people that were close to Jo?

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: And I'm assuming she probably checked with some of them as well to make sure that they were okay with this, but...

Andrew: Yeah, she did say she cleared it with them beforehand. I have to admit, it kind of loses a little - Tales of Beedle the Bard has just lost a little appeal to me now because, like, the main reason this was so special was that only these five or six - actually, well, technically seven people if you're counting Amazon - seven people actually were able to read it, so it's kind of losing its charm now. I think it's awesome though.

Matt: Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think that also it's - it was kind of a shock for it to be, you know, released to the public so soon.

Andrew: It is kind of soon.

Matt: I mean, I wouldn't really mind - I can't wait for the book to come out. It just seemed kind of soon though. It kind of took me off guard when it was released.

Andrew: Well, I think it was in December of this past year that the auction was actually held...

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: So...

Micah: What's a little bit weird though, is December the 4th is a Thursday this year, so I'm not too sure if they are going to actually be doing some sort of midnight release.

Andrew: That's very interesting. I think that would definitely suggest that Scholastic and Bloomsbury certainly don't have any plans to do midnight releases, 'cause, you know, I got to party Thursday night; I can't go to a release party!

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Laura: Sure you do.

Micah: Sure you do. Anyway...

Andrew: I got to watch Lost. But I have to say something about this. The price difference between the two books: it's eight dollars for the paperback. The collector's edition is a hundred dollars! A ninety-two dollar price difference!

Matt: Maybe it's gold plated!

Andrew: Well, the collector's edition looks awesome, there's no doubt about it, but it's just... [laughs] ...I don't get it! I don't get the huge price difference!

Matt: It's really - I really like the cover art, though, for it.

Andrew: Yeah. It was illustrated by Mary GrandPre, which is cool.

Laura: And I mean, at the same time, I know the price difference is pretty steep, but the proceeds do go to charity. I think that has a lot to do with it.

Andrew: Definitely.

Laura: They're assuming that they can make more money for the charities off the fans who will go out and buy the most expensive collector's edition.

Micah: I'm going to ask a stupid question. But is the British version different in any respect or is it just cover?

Andrew: I doubt it.

Micah: Because...

Andrew: I don't even know if there's a cover yet for it, for the U.K. edition.

Micah: I looked because I got a preorder from Amazon U.K. recently, and it looked different. I just wasn't sure. I'm guessing the context is not going to be any different; it's probably just the cover that would be different.

Andrew: Right. Well, I was very glad to see that the cover was illustrated by Mary GrandPre. And I was kind of hoping for that because, you know, it's essentially another Harry Potter book, and it feels like it just with that really nice cover, too.

Micah: Which would beg the question, then of course, would Jim Dale do an audiobook?

Andrew: Narrate. Oh yeah! It's funny because didn't we ask him that question during our interview?

Matt: I think we - no, we asked him if he would narrate the encyclopedia.

Andrew: Oh yeah, but I mean, I think he said if anyone asked him to do it he wouldn't say no.

Matt: Well, yeah, he said he was up for doing the encyclopedia if he was asked, so I'm sure if this gets a lot of attention and they ask him, I'm sure he'll do it.

Micah: Yeah. I think also it came up during that round table, Andrew, and I think he said he would do future J.K. Rowling works if he was asked to also.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Not just the encyclopedia, but anything that she did down the road.

Andrew: I'm reading the features of the collector's edition right now, and they look really cool. "Ten new illustrations by J.K. Rowling not included in the standard edition or the original handcrafted edition."

Matt: Wow.

Andrew: So...

Laura: Oh, wow.

Andrew: It says it's ten completely new illustrations, and, you know, and you get that whole box thing.

Matt: Well, what do you guys think? Are you going to get the special edition or the regular edition? Or the paperback?

Micah: Whatever Scholastic sends us.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Yeah. I was about to pre-order the special edition, but then I saw the price I was like, "Oooo, going to wait."

Matt: I'll do it.

Andrew: Okay, go ahead, do it.

Matt: I'll buy the special edition.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: I would think of asking for the special edition as a gift, like...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: ...if someone asked me...

Andrew: A Christmas gift! Perfect gift!

Laura: ..."what do you want for Christmas," I would say, "Oh, you know..."

Micah: Sorry, Laura, I'm not getting it for you.

[Matt and Micah laugh]

Laura: I wasn't going to ask you.

Matt: Me neither, Laura.

Andrew: I'll tell you why I'm really excited about this, and I'm going to read a quote from the product description: "Dumbledore reveals not just" - this is all new for the actual book - "Dumbledore reveals not just his vast knowledge of wizarding lore, but also more of his personal qualities; his sense of humor, his courage, his pride in his abilities, his own hard-one wisdom. Names familiar from the Harry Potter novels sprinkle the pages, including Aberforth..." Micah...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: "...Lucius Malfoy and his forbearers..."

Micah: What's with Aberforth?

Andrew: Well, he's just going to be in the notes that Dumbledore - Dumbledore...

Micah: It doesn't say the goat's going to be there.

Andrew: No, but Aber - close enough. "And Sir Nicholas de Mimsy Porp..." Oh, Nearly Headless Nick, " well as other professors and past owners of the Elder Wand." So it's going to have a lot of new Harry Potter information in it too...

Micah: Yeah, I think that's the big draw.

Andrew: ...which I'm really excited about.

Laura: Oh, that's cool.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: And, you know, we all love Dumbledore's witty humor, so I think that's definitely going to be worth reading, so I'm excited. Anything else going on? I know you said it was a slow week.

Micah: I think that was all we were going to talk about, right? Unless we wanted to...

News: Theme Park

Andrew: There's new concept art from the Wizarding World of Harry Potter Theme Park on the website.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: It's of the Three Broomsticks.

Matt: Oh, well, they also have a poll on it about what would you - if you were to order a drink at the Three Broomsticks, what would it be? Would it be butterbeer or would it be pumpkin juice? It seems like...

Micah: Firewhiskey.

Matt: Yeah, I was going to say firewhiskey too...

[Laura laughs]

Matt: ...but it seems the...

Micah: It's not a choice?

Matt: No it's not a choice. It's only two. The majority, like, 75-80%, I think it is...

Andrew: Butterbeer?

Matt: Butterbeer, yeah.

Micah: That's not a poll. You can't have two choices on a poll.

Andrew: Yeah, I don't get that. I didn't get that. [laughs]

Matt: Maybe it's like their specialty drink that they're trying to go to.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Why can't they do both?

Matt: I know, that's what I'm saying.

Laura: I don't understand.

Matt: Why can't they just do both? It's not really that hard of a recipe.

Andrew: I bet they will. I bet they will. It'd be boring if there was just one Harry Potter drink on the menu.

Matt: Well, I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of other stuff. But I think they're just trying to figure out who's more keen to drinking it than the others. So they'll probably make more of this drink than the other.

Andrew: I'm not very impressed by the concept art. Like, okay, yeah maybe it is real to the books, but it's just bland. Like...

Matt: It's not supposed to be like brand new and modern.

Andrew: Yeah, well, I know.

Matt: It's supposed to look like it's lasted there...

Andrew: But is this exciting? Like...

Matt: I think it looks very - it looks very busy.

Andrew: It looks [unintelligible].

Matt: Like a whole bunch of stairs and stuff.

Andrew: Yeah, and it's cool, it has a Sirius Black wanted poster towards the back.

Matt: Yeah, that's going to be cool.

Laura: Oh, that's awesome.

Matt: It reminds me a lot of the Three Broomsticks in Prisoner of Azkaban.

Andrew: Oh, well, then I think they did their job.

Matt: Oh, well, then good.

Andrew: I guess that's really all that's worth discussing. The theme park - and we actually didn't post this on MuggleNet, but originally they said it would be opening late 2009, early 2010, and with those updates on the website they changed the release date to just 2010. So I think that's a sign of...

Matt: Well, we were all - we were all pretty much thinking it was going to be 2010 anyway.

Laura: Yeah

Andrew: I just think it's just a sign of many delays to come. All right, well, I guess that's it for news this week. Thank you, Micah.

Micah: Oh, you're welcome.

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Matt's Thoughts on the Teaser Trailer

Andrew: Oh, Matt, also we did the live show last week and you couldn't make it.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: What were your - you want to just give a brief overview of your thoughts on the teaser trailer?

Matt: Yeah. I absolutely loved it. If you've seen our beautifully-made teaser trailer spoof.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Can I tell you, that was one of the funniest things I've watched in a long time.

Andrew: Really?

Matt: Really?

Andrew: Oh, thank you, Micah. That's very nice.

Matt: Awww, thanks.

Andrew: It's hard to make Micah laugh and I'm glad we did.

[Micah laughs]

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: I'm just kidding.

Matt: I have to say that this is probably one of my favorite teaser trailers of the Harry Potter movie series. I think other than this one I think it's the Prisoner of Azkaban teaser trailer, and what I've noticed a lot is - I don't know if you guys touched on this but - there were - the Harry - the Half-Blood Prince teaser trailers, both of them, even the one for IMAX, and the movie Prisoner of Azkaban, have close relativities to each other. They have the same music. And in the Half-Blood Prince teaser when you see young Tom Riddle sit down, you hear the music, the kind of eerie music.

Andrew: Mhm.

Matt: That's when the Dementors come on the train in Prisoner of Azkaban.

Andrew: Oh, really?

Matt: Yeah, that's the theme - that's the song for it. And in the IMAX teaser trailer, when you hear this music right before you hear Dumbledore speak, "I must ask too much of you again, Harry," or something like that, that's the same music they played for the Prisoner of Azkaban teaser trailer in the very beginning.

Andrew: Hmmm. Wasn't it just "Hedwig's Theme"?

Matt: No. Because in the very beginning you can hear, like, the chorus. They're going, "Ahhh," sort of like that. But I think it was definitely a really good - it was a perfect teaser just meaning what a teaser trailer is, because it didn't really tell us anything about the plot or anything. It just showed us one aspect of the story, and I thought that was just brilliant. They just centered on Tom Riddle instead of it being scattered to different kinds of scenes in a big collage.

Andrew: Yeah. That's what the theatrical trailer will be.

Matt: The theatrical trailer will definitely have a more, like, you know, detailed version of what the movie's about and will show a lot more scenes. It didn't really show that many scenes either. It was just, like, four of five scenes that were just dragged on.

Andrew: Mhm.

Matt: So I thought that was really good.

Announcement: Podcast Alley

Andrew: All right, thank you, Matt. Let's move on to announcements now. Just a couple this week. Don't forget to vote for us in - on Podcast Alley. Number 5 right now. Not bad. Could be better. But, hey, it's okay.

Matt: Yeah, the month's not over.

Announcement: Teddy Bears for Hope Update

Andrew: That's true, it's only just begun. And, Micah, you have an update about Teddy Bears for Hope.

Matt: Can I have one?

Micah: [laughs] Can you have one?

Andrew: You have a teddy bear.

Matt: Yeah, but I want hope too.

[Micah laughs]

Laura: Ask Barack Obama.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh geez.

Matt: Oh geez.

Micah: Yes we can.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: Yes we can.

Andrew: Oh god.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: What's going on with Teddy Bears for Hope, Micah?

Micah: As we mentioned last week on the live show, and I'm sure many people have already heard at the beginning of our show, we're doing a little bit of charity work with this organization called Teddy Bears for Hope. It's a non-profit, and the idea is to be able to give these teddy bears out to children who have been afflicted some way in their life, whether that be by disease or disaster. The effort so far is going very well. We made a post on at the beginning of the week. That obviously had a tremendous impact, and I don't know if I should say where we're at as of right now, but I'll just say that we're doing extremely well, and we appreciate obviously anything that anybody can give. No amount is too small and, you know, everybody's kind of been rallying around this cause so far, and you know, all the listeners and the visitors to the site. So we really appreciate it.

Matt: That's a really good organization. I was reading up on it yesterday. It's really sweet.

Muggle Mail: The Fandom Changing

Andrew: Mhm. All right, thanks, Micah. Let's move on to Muggle Mail now. Laura, you want to take the first one?

Laura: Sure. Our first Muggle Mail comes from Maggie, 16 of Michigan. She says:

"Hi, let me just say that you guys are amazing and that I love each and every one of you in your own special way. I was listening to your podcast when the subject came up about what is next for the 'Harry Potter' fandom and whether it is shrinking or changing. I just had this to say: with such a monumental series as 'Harry Potter,' its fanbase can never shrink. It only becomes an even more integral part of our life. Since we have no new book to look foward to, 'Harry Potter' is slowly becoming an everyday part of our lives, a concrete part of our childhood. It's in this weird stage where the books are going from a pop culture phenomenon to a classic piece of literature. Slowly but surely 'Harry Potter' will be passed on to our kids and they will have the same awe and wonder we all felt when we first read it. So yes, the fandom is changing. There may not be as many people coming out celebrate at conventions, or Harry's birthday, but that is only because 'Harry Potter' is such a normal everyday thing in our lives that it just seems silly to do that anymore. Yeah, it was a long message but there you go. Shrinking? No. Changing? Yes, but for the better."

Andrew: Yeah, I like what she has to say, because I think she's right, and when people do say, you know, it's dying, it's not really. I mean it's just the same things that happened in the Harry Potter fandom continue to happen every day, so people think, oh, it's dying just because there's not big change. But when we have things like podcasts and Wizard Rock, and I - you know, I was thinking earlier today, the Harry Potter fandom has contributed two major things to the fandom as a whole, and that's podcasting and a musical genre for that fandom, and it really is amazing of the impact of both of them.

Matt: Well, and so to speak, I mean the Harry Potter fandom can't really shrink as long as the people who love the books still - still love it, yeah. I mean, just because you don't go to conventions doesn't mean you're part of - not part of the fandom.

Micah: I think the online aspect of it as a whole, too. I mean, not just necessarily podcasting - I know that's unique in itself - but kind of the whole online aspect to it too. I don't know if it was as rampant just because of, you know, the Internet not necessarily being available as much to sort of - the other, you know, fandoms that existed previously.

Andrew: Right.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: And never again will there be a fandom that does not have online websites, forums, fan fiction, Wizard Rock. Well, maybe not fan fiction because that sort of comes down to books, but like the musical genres. I just think that, Matt, you brought up a good point.

Matt: Well, it's just so unique. I mean the fandom - I mean how many books - how many series have made a sport out of the book series, have made a genre of music from it? I mean...

Andrew: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Matt: It's never been done; it's a totally original fandom.

Micah: Yup.

Muggle Mail: Theatrical Trailer

Andrew: Next e-mail comes from Ivan, 17 of West Covina, California, writing about the theatrical trailer. He says:

"Hey guys, I was just wondering, now that we have seen the HBP teaser trailer and how much it focused on young Tom Riddle, what do you think the theatrical trailer will focus on? Will it continue the focus on Tom Riddle or do you think it will focus on something new? Just wondering what you guys think, I love the show and all of you are awesome."

Matt: I think it will, mostly, because that's mainly...

Andrew: Mostly what?

Matt: Oh, focus on Tom Riddle. I mean not all of it focus on Tom Riddle, but I think especially at the end of the trailer when it gets to more, you know, the climatic scenes, it'll show mostly about - it'll show Harry and Dumbledore together, and basically what they're together to do is hunt Horcruxes about Tom Riddle.

Micah: I kind of brought this up last week too, and I know it's not necessarily the focal point of the book or the movie, but Snape and just kind of including him a little bit more in this because he does play such a huge role, even though...

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: know, it's kind of a behind-the-scenes role. You'll probably get a lot more of the end battle scene at Hogwarts, which we haven't really seen much of at all.

Matt: Yeah, definitely. I hope we get to see some Snape and Draco scenes.

Andrew: Yeah. I think there's going to be a lot of love in it, too.

Matt: I don't...

Laura: I hope not. [laughs] But you're right, there probably - there will be, a little bit. I think it's going to be a pretty encompassing trailer. I think they're going to show a little bit of everything. There will probably be some Tom Riddle follow up, I'm sure, and like Micah was saying about the battle scenes, and Andrew's thing about the love...

Andrew: The love.

Laura: I think we're going to see a little bit of everything.

Muggle Mail: The Magic Number Seven

Micah: The last e-mail comes from Leela, 21, of Daytona Beach, Florida. She says:

"Hi, love the show, you guys are awesome! I just wanted to point out something interesting in the latest 'Half-Blood Prince' trailer. At one minute and ten seconds, if you look behind young Tom Riddle, you can count exactly seven stones laying on the windowsill. It also is shown again at one minute and sixteen seconds. I just thought it was pretty cool. Seven stones for seven Horcruxes. Again, love the show, pickles, Layla."

Laura: Oops, it was Layla. [laughs]

Andrew: Uh-oh! That's kind of clever.

Laura: Yeah, that is a nice little...

Micah: Is anybody looking at it right now? I don't have it up.

Andrew: No, but I can real quick. Watch, she's probably lying. See, one thing we fail at is checking the authenticity of - the legitimacy, I guess I should say, of the e-mails.

Laura: Well, that's because...

Andrew: People could tell us anything and we'll believe it.

Laura: We trust our listeners.

Andrew: Well, exactly. That's exactly what I meant. Okay, let me see, I'm looking here.

Matt: Yeah, but he doesn't know anything about seven, though. The power of seven. Because he's not...

Laura: Yeah, but...

Micah: Doesn't mean David Yates couldn't put it in there, though.

Andrew: Oh, there they are. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Yeah, seven stones.

Matt: Oh, wow!

Andrew: That's really - I wonder what they're trying to do with that.

Matt: They may not - I mean, we're only seeing it from a pretty far - they could be just the knickknacks he stole because we know he stole stuff from...

Andrew: Those are stones.

Matt: They're stones?

Andrew: They're stones. Yeah. They're not...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: They're not knickknacks. If Mikey B. was here he could confirm that for me. He would...

Laura: Yeah, really.

Andrew: He would do a close up and analyze it with Photoshop, and...

Laura: We would have a twenty-minute long analyzation.

Andrew: Yeah, analyzation [laughs] of the different shapes...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: ...and how rocks form, and all that. [laughs] Thank you for that, Layla.

Interview with Stephenie Meyer

Andrew: Okay, well, it's time now for our interview with the one and only, the fantastic, the charming, the bubbly - as Laura and Elysa described her after the show - interview, Stephenie Meyer. And now, for those of you who have read Breaking Dawn or are planning on reading it, we do get into the plot of the book, but I inserted a little spoiler warning before Breaking Dawn content so you'll know when to stop it so nothing gets spoiled for you. So, we'll take it away to our interview with Stephenie Meyer. Joining us now is Stephenie Meyer, the author of the highly successful Twilight saga, which was just completed Friday when Breaking Dawn was released. Hello, Stephenie!

Stephenie: Hi, Andrew!

Andrew: How are you today?

Stephenie: I'm pretty good. I'm starting to get a little nervous [unintelligible] the show tonight. That always happens.

Andrew: Yeah, you're in the middle of this tour right now. What is this, your second or third?

Stephenie: This is my fourth tour.

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Stephenie: So both books, and then one tour for The Host, and then, you know, various international tours. [laughs]

Andrew: Right, right, and you are in Chicago tonight, right?

Stephenie: Right.

Andrew: Awesome. So, we're going to ask you some questions about the Twilight fandom and how it compares to the Potter fandom, since we are a Harry Potter fansite, and then we'll get into stuff about Breaking Dawn. Does that sound good?

Stephenie: That sounds cool.

Andrew: All right, cool.

Elysa: With the release of Breaking Dawn, the press is really all over this huge phenomenon that you've created with these books, and a lot of them are comparing you to J.K. Rowling because of the similarities in the fandoms. Why do you think so many Potter fans also enjoy Twilight and vice versa?

Stephenie: Yeah, I think everyone says that, actually, not most of them.

[Andrew and Stephenie laugh]

Stephenie: I get that all the time now, and I don't really know. I mean, when it comes down to it, there isn't that much that's similar...

Elysa: Mhm...

Stephenie: ...about the books, except for the fans of the books are very similar. And of course all my fans are Harry Potter fans because everyone is a Harry Potter fan.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Stephenie: That just goes without saying, right?

Elysa: Right. I agree with you, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Stephenie: Yeah, so, I mean, I think the fans see, and they're fun reads, but they do appeal to people who like a little bit longer books, so there's that too, I guess.

Elysa: Right.

Matt: Okay. Stephenie, in your opinion, what is it about this whole genre that appeals to so many readers?

Stephenie: The vampire genre?

[Matt and Stephenie laugh]

Matt: Yeah.

Stephenie: You know, I don't know, because I'm not - I don't read vampire books, so - and that - before, now I'll be able to. I - I've never really been into horror, so I'm not sure what the appeal is. I think it's because - you know, a lot of people like horror movies, people who aren't me, and I guess people liked to be scared, and vampires, of all the monsters that we can scare ourselves with, are definitely the sexiest. I mean, the rest are unattractive.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Oh. Yeah.

Andrew: Right.

Elysa: Clearly.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Now, one major difference between the fandoms is that - between Harry Potter and Twilight is that J.K. Rowling has had ten years to develop her fandom, whereas yours has only had three years. So if your fandom only had - not only - if your fandom had ten years to develop, do you think it would grow into this huge thing?

Stephenie: You know, I don't know. Everything has been so much more than I expected...

Andrew: Yeah.

Stephenie: it's hard to say. I kind of keep waiting for everything to crash and burn.

[Andrew laughs]

Stephenie: Something about my personality...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: It just seems like, you know - I would have to wonder what would happen if there was just more time. It would be fun to watch, and just seeing this whole fandom grow has been a lot of fun to watch for Twilight.

Stephenie: Yeah. It's been really fast. I mean - obviously, cool and fun for me...

Andrew: Yeah.

Stephenie: I don't know. I kind of like the idea of starting over with new characters though. It should be - I imagine J.K. Rowling deals with is the idea that people feel like the characters belong to them, and after a while they have their guess and idea of what they want to see happen. You don't really have to deal with that so much when you're starting over with fresh characters.

Andrew: Is that a hint of things to come?

Stephenie: Well, I - well, obviously, I've got to go and do Midnight Sun, so people don't come after me, right?

[Everyone laughs]

Stephenie: But I'm still - I'm still in the Twilight world for now, but then I've got a lot of other, you know, non-vampire: ghosts, time travel, mermaids. I got a ton of stuff...

Andrew: Wow.

Matt: Oh, wow.

Stephenie: work on.

Elysa: Awesome.

Matt: Oh, cool.

Andrew: That's a spectrum there. Yeah. [Andrew laughs]

Stephenie: Yeah.

[Matt and Stephenie laugh]

Laura: So, considering that you've said the two stories don't have a lot in common, what do you think Harry Potter fans would like about Twilight, especially people who haven't read the books yet?

Stephenie: You know, I don't know. It's not - to me it's so not comparable, but I do think that people who are readers - I was always a reader when I was growing up, and I just liked really big stories. I never wanted them to end. And my stories are long, so they're - they have that going for them, but then I think they're kind of fun, fast reads, you know, for as long as they are. My top priority is always entertainment, and so I think that is similar to Harry Potter. Rowling just had such a whimsical, magical, escapism that's really cool, and I with Twilight I think it's a bit closer to home because it's set more in the world that we know, but I still think it has that escape that people might be looking for.

Laura: Right.

Andrew: Yeah. You know, and I've got to say, that's what I've always liked about your books is - it is set in today's world, and in America, too. I mean, I've always appreciated your reference to Rotten Tomatoes. I think that was in...

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Twilight or New Moon. Just thought it was good.

Stephenie: [laughs] Well, you know, Rotten Tomatoes is a good tool.

Andrew: Yes, it is.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Matt: Okay, Stephenie, you've read the Harry Potter books, correct?

Stephenie: Yes.

Matt: Okay. What would you say is your favorite of the series?

Stephenie: Probably number three. I'm just a huge Sirius Black fan.

Matt: Ohh.

Elysa: Oh my God.

[Laura and Matt laugh]

Elysa: I'm there with you. Me too.

Stephenie: I had a really hard time when he died. It was not easy for me.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Laura: Aww. Well, I think we all felt the same way. [laughs]

Stephenie: Yeah. [laughs]

Laura: But if you had to pick something specific, or maybe not so specific, what do you admire most about J.K. Rowling's work?

Stephenie: Oh God. Her imagination. I mean, she - I - when I work, I work within the world that I'm in because I kind of like having that foundation of realism. Also it's a little bit easier. People are used to being in this world. To create a whole other world and get the walls up as solidly as she does takes a ton of imagination and just a real gift. I am constantly amazed by that with her.

Matt: Yeah. Aww.

Elysa: Okay, so if Harry and Edward had to duel against each other, using their own abilities, who do you think would win?

Stephenie: Oh gosh. Don't get mad at me, but, I mean...

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Stephenie: Okay. I don't know what a wizard fight looks like in her head. I know what it looks like in the movie, so I kind of have to go on what it looks like in the movie.

[Andrew laughs]

Stephenie: But here's the thing: if it's possible for a human to duck a wand being [unintelligible] at them, the vampire's not going to have a problem. I mean, the fight would be over in .01 seconds, because Edward would be across the room, snap his neck, and be done.

Andrew: Oh, yeah.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Stephenie: He wouldn't even have time to say his spell word. I'm sorry. Edward would win that one.

[Everyone laughs]

Elysa: Yeah.

Andrew: All right, let's move on to...

Matt: I kind of... [laughs] ...I kind of agree with her.

Laura: Yeah, me, too.

Andrew: Let's move on to Breaking Dawn now.

Warning: Breaking Dawn Spoilers

Andrew: And if you, the listener, have not read Breaking Dawn yet and you plan on it, and you don't want to be spoiled, now's the time to fast-forward about thirty minutes ahead to get the rest of MuggleCast.

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