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Andrew: And good morning, ladies and gentlemen! 9:30 a.m. here on a Friday morning here on the West Coast, and just a half an hour ago, Warner Brothers released a brand new Half-Blood Prince trailer. And surprised the fans. Isn't that right, Matt Britton?

Matt: Yes, they did. Yup, yup, yup.

Andrew: We found out about it last night, but of course they wanted to make it a surprise to the fans. So here we are, a half hour later after the trailer came out. Of course this is a big surprise to the fans, and, frankly, this trailer is awesome.

Matt: Yeah, it is pretty - it's pretty awesome awesome.

Andrew: Matt and I are here. Eric will be here later on, Micah will be calling in later on. And who knows, maybe a couple of surprises. Penny Gershman from HP Prognostications is going to be joining us very shortly. But right now I want to take some of your calls, because what has happened is, fans were completely surprised by this. It came out of the blue. So start calling in now. The number 1-218-20-MAGIC in the United States. If you're in the United Kingdom or in Australia, you know the numbers: 020-781-44-0677 in the United Kingdom and in Australia 028-003-5668. So, right now, let's get in here Penny Gersh from HP Prognostications. I'm going to call her via our little Skype tool.

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Andrew: Very exciting. Matt?

Matt: What?

Andrew: What was...

Penny: Hey, guys!

Andrew: Hey, hello!

Matt: Penny, hey!

Andrew: Good morning.

Penny: What's up?

Matt: Oh nothing, just watching the new Half-Blood Prince trailer.



Initial Reactions to Trailer


Andrew: Your initial reactions to the trailer?

Penny: Oh my gosh, I love it!

[Everyone laughs]

Penny: What can we say? I mean, it looks like everything that we wanted it to look. It's - there's dark, there's light, it's funny, it's - I'm so excited. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, I know.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Matt, what really stood out for you in this trailer?

Matt: Hermione's hair.

Andrew: [laughs] Hermione's...

Matt: It's actually messy.

Andrew: I know!

Penny: Me too.

Andrew: You can't help but notice. It was almost like obnoxiously sort of messy.

Matt: It was like - yeah. It was almost like, "You know what? Screw it. I'm going to make the fans happy." And she just goes in the bathroom and just scrubs her hair.

Andrew: Right.

Penny: Well, the thing is though, I'm wondering - I mean it's not like that in the entire trailer, so I'm wondering if perhaps maybe there's some kind of potions accident or something that made her hair like that.

Matt: Maybe.

Penny: Except what excited me though was that we always hear about how Hermione's hair is so bushy, and we've never seen it, except for maybe in the first scene in the first movie.

Andrew: Yeah.

Penny: So it's exciting to actually finally see it.

Matt: But we only see it in that one scene. So - I mean - we know in the book that she get - that Hermione's a little jealous of Harry, so maybe she was like up all night trying to study and trying to one-up Harry, and then she probably just didn't have time to do her hair.

Andrew: Maybe.

Penny: With the Felix Felicis or something.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: It is kind of - Penny, could - I don't know of you saw my IM, but can you put on headphones, if you have some?

Penny: Yeah, you want to cut me off for a few minutes?

Andrew: Sure.

Penny: Because I had headphones on and then I couldn't hear you guys, so...

Andrew: Sure.

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: All right. So...

Matt: So, Andrew, what did you think about the trailer? I mean, what was your favorite part? What really stood out?

Andrew: The beginning. No, I have to say - well, you brought this up to me while we were talking when we first saw the trailer - the color in this is very - I want to say saturated?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: It just looks very warm...

Matt: It looks like an inkwell painting or something.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, it's funny, because I guess we're - in a way we're comparing it to the trailer that leaked a few weeks ago.

Matt: But this one actually had all the CGI in it.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. [laughs] The Quidditch, too, looks quite surprising, because there's that one funny shot of Ron just like.

Matt: "Whoo!"

Andrew: He's sort of like in X formation...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...with his body. [laughs]

Matt: "Yeah!" That's probably when he has the Felix Felicis.

Andrew: Do you think so?

Matt: Yeah, because he's having a good time. It's the only time we ever see him happy.

Andrew: Oh, that's right.

Matt: Because he's always nervous. But also in the Quidditch scene you can see Ginny.

Andrew: You can?

Matt: I never knew that was Ginny.

Andrew: Where?

Matt: At the very end.

Andrew: Of what?

Matt: You see "Weasley." If - when they're all in formation, she's the last person to join the crowd.

Andrew: Really?

Matt: Yeah, it says "Weasley" and she has long red hair.



Call: Comic Relief


Andrew: Sasha, good morning, you're on MuggleCast Live.

Caller: Oh, hold on, let me just mute first.

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: Oh, thank you.

Caller: I just wanted to say that I'm really happy with this trailer. I think...

Matt: Mhm.

Caller: ...compared with some of the other ones this one has so much comic relief than all the trailers for the other movies...

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: ...and I think it's really great for such a serious film that I was expecting it to be.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah, I agree with you, it is a good balance.

Andrew: Question though. I want your reaction though. When you first heard or saw that there was a new trailer, how did you react?

Caller: I was jumping up and down.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Caller: I was really, really excited.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Caller: I mean, it's been really slow with the news and everything with Harry Potter.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Caller: About time for a trailer.

Andrew: Yeah. All right, Sasha. Thank you.

Matt: Thank you so much, Sasha.

Caller: Yeah, you too.

Andrew: All right, bye.

Matt: Bye.



The Trailer Was a Surprise


Andrew: All right, Penny, you're back. Penny, we were just talking about how much of a surprise it was.

Penny: The trailer in general?

Andrew: Yeah. What were your reactions when I told you?

Penny: That they brought it now?

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Penny: Okay. Well, first of all, my first reaction was that this movie is coming out in July, so it's still once again, as much as we - you know - we thought this was going to happen by the end of this month, it's a really long time away, so that was my first reaction of, "I'm excited, but once again, this kills me because we're not going to see the movie until July."

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Right.

Penny: Also, because we had just had that leaked trailer a few weeks ago, I was sort of surprised that this one came out. I don't know if you guys felt that same way.

Andrew: Me too, but here's the big thing with this trailer. [laughs] This really brings it full circle. They're releasing it - they're putting it in front of Twilight, which is kind of funny.

[Matt laughs]

Andrew: And when we were told about this yesterday, I was on the phone with WB, and I was like, "So you going to put something in the beginning of the trailer that's like 'Yeah, so you were supposed to see this movie with Twilight, but - or to see this movie today, but here's a little trailer anyways. Sorry. LOLs.'" [laughs]

Penny: Yeah, and in some ways - in some ways it's offensive to the Harry Potter fans, but in other ways, it's great, especially for the ones who are going to go see it. I mean, how many of us are going to go see it the Twilight movie anyway?

Andrew: Right.

Matt: Yeah, totally.

Penny: So many.

Matt: Nobody.

Penny: It's - yeah, nobody. None. [laughs]

Andrew: I think...

Penny: Go ahead.

Andrew: I think this is a - quite frankly, a pure gift from Warner Brothers, because anyone seeing Twilight is not on the fence about seeing Harry Potter. You know everyone seeing Twilight is going to see Harry Potter, so why is WB doing this? I think, in a way, it's to say, "Hey look, we're sorry, you know, we delayed the movie, here's a new trailer."

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And I think that's great.

Penny: Can you imagine what the fans' reaction's going to be when they go in for Twilight and they first see this trailer?

Andrew: [laughs] I know.

Matt: Oh, I would - I would laugh my freaking butt off if that happens.

Andrew: Well...

Penny: It's going to be amazing.

Andrew: Yeah. And if [laughs] they'll like the trailer so much, they'll be like "Oh, crap, I wish this came out before Twilight."

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Penny: Hopefully Twilight will be able to live up to the trailer, but that's another discussion.

Andrew: Yes...

Matt: Yeah.



The Focus on Slughorn


Andrew: ...that is. This trailer had a pretty heavy focus on Slughorn. It was only a minute - what, about a minute and a half?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And there was a big focus on Slughorn and Ron. Matt, what'd you think of that?

Matt: Of what? I'm sorry.

Andrew: Just the big focus of Slughorn and Ron.

Matt: The Slughorn? Well, I mean, it's about time. It's the one character that we really introduce, and I think it was needed.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: I mean, it's not really heavily focused, we just see - the only reason why you probably think it's heavily focused is because you actually hear them introduce him in the trailer. Like, this is Professor Slughorn.

Andrew: Yeah.



The End of the Trailer


Matt: What I really like about this trailer though, is that there's no narration; it's Dumbledore speaking over everything. It just seems a little more dramatic that way, I think.

Andrew: Yeah, definitely. What also I thought was interesting - this is just a random thing, but it was an initial reaction sort of thing. At the end of this trailer - you know with the trailer that leaked, at the end there's that very last clip: "Well, I am the Chosen One." At the end of this trailer there's music, and it just sort of trails off, and you're expecting a clip at the end. But...

Matt: Yeah!

Andrew: But then it just goes pfft, July.

Penny: I had the exact same thought, exactly.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Oh, it's like, you tease!

Andrew: Yeah.

Penny: You know what? In some cases I think it's more powerful this way. The last trailer was so serious, and then you got that last clip thing, and then it shows the - that, "I'm the Chosen One" clip, and it's almost just sort of like a letdown.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Penny: After that one.



The Half-Blood Prince


Matt: The very last clip, though, you see, right before Harry Potter, is Snape conjuring some spell that has some green stuff coming out.

Andrew: Oh! I got so excited when I saw Snape in this trailer. [laughs] He looks...

Penny: One that I just realized is there's still no mention of the Half-blood Prince or anything having to do with that plot-line.

Andrew: You're right, yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: But, I mean, there are some really cool shots in this trailer.



The Cave Scene


Matt: Yeah. We get to see the Inferi.

Andrew: Crawling up to Dumbledore! I mean, oh my God! That's so cool! What's the time code on that?

Matt: Oh, I'm on QuickTime, so it doesn't have a time code.

Andrew: Oh. Okay. Right. 1:33. You see these guys crawling out of the lake up to Dumbledore. Oh man, is that cool.

Matt: It's kind of...

Andrew: And then there's the shot of Harry grabbing on to Dumbledore's hand.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And Harry protecting Dumbledore. Oh man!

[Penny laughs]

Matt: It's pretty freaking sweet.

Andrew: It's really great.



Hermione Crying


Matt: Can we talk about for a second how sad it was - I mean, we only saw it for a clip - but Hermione crying.

Andrew: Oh yeah! [laughs]

Matt: Was it - that was a good cry.

Andrew: Yeah, I'm laughing - go ahead, Penny.

Penny: I completely disagree with you there.

Matt: Really?

Penny: I think that - I thought that - I think that it looked like - I think that it could potentially be a powerful clip, but I thought that Emma Watson just didn't pull off crying.

Andrew: I couldn't help but laugh a little bit. I agree with Penny there. [laughs] The laughing is - I mean I guess we don't know the context of it, though, so we don't know...

Matt: Well, I'm looking at it in HD and her eyes are all red.

Andrew: If this is where Dumbledore died or something, then I'll be crying along with her... [laughs] ...because - I don't know. You don't feel for her, Penny?

Penny: Oh, I completely feel for her, I just don't...

Matt: I don't...

Penny: ...like her...

Matt: I don't think her - this is - oh, sorry, Penny!

Penny: No, go ahead.

Matt: I don't think this is the death of Dumbledore. I think this is when she gets upset with Ron.

Penny: I was actually trying to figure that out, because she's wearing that little Hogwarts t-shirt...

Matt: The Gryffindor tee, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, it's a little dressed-down thing.

Penny: Pajamas? It might have been pajamas or something, I don't know.

Matt: But, then again, everyone was in pajamas when the Death Eaters stormed the castle.

Penny: Right, that's what I was thinking.

Matt: Huh. I just don't know.

Andrew: Yeah, because I guess if it was when Dumbledore died, she may have been dressed in something a little nicer.

Penny: No! Because it was the middle of the night, wasn't it?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: There's no what?

Matt: It was in the middle of the night.

Penny: Yeah, it was the middle of the night.

Andrew: No - oh, sorry, I'm meaning before the funeral. How about the shot of Snape turning around and seeing Draco, and - I don't know who those are down there - attacking Hagrid's hut.

Matt: It's Bellatrix conjuring the fire. On the left.

Andrew: On Hagrid's hut?

Matt: Yes, see her on the left?

Andrew: Oh! Oh yeah, damn, you can hardly see her. And finally, we're also seeing shots of Millennium Bridge, which they were filming at a few weeks ago. Sorry, what am I saying? Over a year ago they were filming at Millennium Bridge and we had countless amounts of pictures and such.

Matt: It's very sombre music too, during the trailer. It's - you hear a piano being played the entire time.

Andrew: Yeah. I don't know.

Matt: It's awesome. I hate these trailers; they just get me too excited.

Andrew: Why?

Matt: Well, the Harry Potter trailers; they're like the best trailers of any movie franchise I've ever seen.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: But, it just gets me too excited, and I have to wait another five months.

Andrew: Yeah, well, Eric's going to be joining...

Penny: Longer than five months.

Andrew: What's that, Penny?

Penny: It's longer than five months.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Oh.

Andrew: Eric's going to be joining us soon. And yeah, like - the thing is, whenever you get these trailers, yeah, you do get excited, but then I can't help but think, "Oh, people already saw this." And like their excitement is sort of already over.

Matt: Well, Eric's going to tell us if there's any change.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Because I - I don't think that the whole CGI part, with the - with the memory at the - at the orphanage when Dumbledore was walking, I don't think they had that inkwell effect.

Andrew: What's the inkwell effect?

Matt: You see - it's just like all these little - smoke coming out from everyone.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Everywhere. I - because that wasn't in the trailer. Or in the teaser trailer. That - it was just pure black and white.



Ron as Comic Relief


Andrew: Yeah. And what did you guys think of - does Ron do the "in love" thing a lot, or are we going to get sick of it throughout the movie?

Penny: Yeah, my question was, in the first four movies, Ron was used as comic relief all the time.

Andrew: Yes.

Penny: And then the fifth one I thought they did a really good job transferring that to that Nigel kid...

Andrew: Yeah.

Penny: ...and Ron was able to be a little more serious. And I'm a little bit nervous that they're going to go back to using him...

Andrew: Yeah.

Penny: ...as comic relief.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Well, we really only see him in that one scene where he is under the Felix Felicis.

Andrew: Right.

Matt: So I don't think that was really fair of them to give that one shot of him for us.

Andrew: And, oh, and then we actually see Luna with her Spectre...

Matt: Yes!

Andrew: ...things. Which look...

Penny: They look awesome.

Andrew: Yeah, they did.

Matt: They look amazing.

Andrew: They look so cool.

Matt: I'm really excited that they - that they added the gargoyles in front of the castle. Those will just be so much more awesome for the big battle in Deathly Hallows.

Andrew: Why? Do you think they're going to come to life? But, I mean, the way - they change things in this movie very frequently.

Matt: But they'd never done that before. I mean, they've never shown the gargoyles at the entrance gate.



Slughorn and Young Tom Riddle


Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. I liked the flashback of Slughorn when he's talking to young Tom Riddle, correct?

Matt: Where he tells him to get out?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Penny: Didn't he...

Matt: "It's a lie!"

Andrew: It like - no, go ahead, Penny.

Penny: In the book, wasn't - didn't he originally give a messed up memory he - changed the memory, correct?

Matt: Yeah.

Penny: So do you think they're going to do it like that?

Andrew: I think so because doesn't Dumbledore say in this...

Andrew and Matt: "Its a lie." Yeah.

Penny: Yeah, right. Okay.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Because...

Andrew: "It's a lie!"

Matt: Yeah, because it's - it ends right when he says, "Get out."

Andrew: Right.

Penny: I honestly haven't watched it enough times to really...

Andrew: I know.

Penny: ...absorb it.

Andrew: I know. There's so much - like...



Pacing of the Trailer


Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: As I watched - another initial reaction thing I had - as I'm watching the trailer, it sort of started off a little slow. Like in terms of clip-wise. But then as you start getting to the end, it picks up more and more and it's like...

Matt: Well, thats what a typical trailer does though. I mean it just shows you a climatic - or as just as many scenes as they can probably push in.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool.

Matt: It's really cool though. I just love that one scene where - that one shot with Harry and Hermione on Dumbledore's office looking out to the Great Lake. It's - I mean, I'm afraid its going to be another, "I'm scared for you" kind of scene, but it looks really nice. It's just the whole saturation you said, Andrew, just about the way everything looks. It just looks - it looks really nice. I really - I'm really liking this.

Andrew: Yeah. And the music I thought was more epic than ever.

Matt: Yeah. It's really nice. I really love the whole - the whole piano stuff they've been playing into it. Like right after - I think it was with - when Dumbledore and Harry go through - what is it called when - when you - when you transport?

Penny: Apparate.

Matt: Apparate! Thank God, oh geez. It's still early. When Dumbledore and Harry Apparate, and they land in the office, there's this little piano thing going on with really high pitched keys.

Andrew: Mhm.

Matt: It's just so cool. It's just like - it's like you're just all stepping into this huge epic story.

Andrew: Yeah.

Penny: Yeah, and I think it definitely feels more powerful than any of the other ones before, and I think that - and obviously that's very symbolic for what's happening in this one. Especially because Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows were really, you know, two parts of one story.

Matt: Yeah.

Penny: And you know - and that really just - it's the climax of the story.

Matt: Yeah. So basically, this is like part one of the three-part story.

Penny: Exactly.

Matt: Because you get introduced to all the Deathly Hallows and then it just all goes out from there.

Andrew: Right.

Matt: Or not the Deathly Hallows, the Horcruxes.

Penny: [unintelligible] ...Horcrux, didn't we?

Andrew: You're a movie ahead.

Matt: Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm just really excited for the next movie.

Andrew: I feel like calling Ben or someone and pranking them into thinking like - just be like: "Ben, we just got this trailer and at the end it says November 21st." And then, "Warner Brothers surprised everyone and said that the movie actually is coming out November 21st."

Matt: They wouldn't believe that.

Andrew: I think he would.

Matt: No, he wouldn't.

Andrew: I think he would.

Matt: No, he wouldn't.

Andrew: But he'd be cursing too much. [laughs] We obviously can't put that on.

[Andrew and Matt laughs]

Matt: Isn't it cool, though, we got to see Seamus get exploded again? It's been a couple of movies.

Penny: Yes.

Matt: I thought it was really cute.

Penny: It's come full circle, sort of.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah. It's like, "We're going to bring back a couple things that you loved from the other films."

Andrew: Exactly.

Matt: What do you think about the Death Mark? Above the castle? It's a little different...

Andrew: Dark Mark?

Matt: The Dark Mark. You know what? I fail.



Call: The Death Eaters


Andrew: Let me try - hold on - let me try one more call. Karen, good morning. You're on MuggleCast Live.

Caller: Hey, guys!

Matt: Hey!

Andrew: Hey! What's going on?

Caller: Not much. I can only talk for a minute because I have to go to class, but it was really awesome.

Andrew: Isn't it?

Matt: Isn't it?

Andrew: What was your reaction when you found out that the trailer was online?

Caller: I was kind of in disbelief and then I like clicked it and I wanted to wait for the whole thing to load before I watched it because I didn't want it to stop in the middle...

Andrew: Right.

Caller: ...but then it was taking - because I clicked like one of the really big ones - and so it took like a minute to load and so I was getting so nervous, and then I watched it, and it was amazing.

Andrew: Right. [laughs] Yeah. It's very exciting. So you have class or something in a few minutes or something?

Caller: Yeah, I can talk for like a minute though.

Andrew: Oh, okay. Well, when you go to class are you going to be spreading the word? Because I mean this was WB's...

Karen: Yes.

Andrew: ...intention. They need - wanted a big boom. A big "Oh my God."

Matt: Mhm.

Caller: Yes.

Andrew: Was there anything else that stood out in the trailer for you?

Caller: I thought it was really awesome how they had all the black smoke everywhere, and then they had - when they had all the black smoke like going through London, were those Dementors? Or were those Death Eaters, do you think?

Matt: Those are Death Eaters, I think.

Andrew: Yeah, I think so too.

Matt: Yeah. Which is kind of bothering me, because why would they do that when the Muggles never really saw anything? I thought the Death Eaters were like in the crowd when it happened.

Andrew: Anyway, any other reactions, Karen?

Caller: I'm just going to be kind of a nerd here and say that the design on the back of The Quibbler is kind of amazing.

[Andrew and Karen laugh]

Matt: Isn't it?

Caller: Because I watched it in ridiculous high quality.

Matt: You can see the big 3-D thing coming out. It's so cool.

Andrew: They should print legit Quibblers or something.

Matt: I think that'd be really cool.

Caller: They totally should.

Andrew: Yeah, to promote the movie and hand them out at theaters or something like that.

Penny: I'm sure they will.

Andrew: That'd be very cool. Yeah. All right, Karen, thank you. And for everyone who doesn't know - I don't know if we ever said this, I think we did - but Karen designed our excellent Portus shirts, but we had a Portus printing shirt problem so that never turned out. But, Karen, thanks for doing that for us.

Matt: Aw, thanks, Karen.

Caller: Yep.

Andrew: We're sorry it didn't work out. All right, well thanks for calling in, Karen.

Caller: Mhm. Talk to you guys later.

Matt: Have fun in class.

Andrew: Okay, bye.

Caller: Bye.

Andrew: Thank goodness I did not have class today. Penny, do you have class today?

Penny: Do I have class today? Do I have work today?

[Andrew laughs]

Penny: No, I only work the beginning of the week.



Call: Bellatrix


Andrew: Oh okay. Shivani, good morning. You're on MuggleCast Live.

Caller: Hi.

Andrew: Hi. How are you?

Caller: I'm good.

Andrew: What was your initial reactions to the trailer?

Caller: I was blown away. I was actually studying for a physics exam I have today so I had no idea I'd see a trailer.

Matt: [laughs] God, physics.

Caller: So that was amazing.

Andrew: Awesome.

Caller: I actually wanted to bring up that one scene on the tower where Bellatrix conjures the Dark Mark.

Matt: Uh-huh.

Caller: Because when I - from what I remember, she's not supposed to be there.

Andrew: Why wasn't she supposed to be there? Just because she was hiding? I'm forgetting.

Caller: Well, on the tower, isn't it just Malfoy, Fenrir Greyback...

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Is that even the Astronomy Tower?

Andrew: It must be.

Caller: It has to be Hogwarts.

Andrew: Yeah, because Fenrir's there. Isn't he in that shot there?

Matt: Oh yeah.

Andrew: [burps] Excuse me. [laughs] You know what? WB makes these subtle changes just to make it work with the plot more, so maybe that was why. I mean, in all honesty, it does look pretty, in Mikey's words, "epic" to see her casting it from atop the tower, don't you think?

Matt: Yeah.

Caller: Right, but do you think that will change anything with the fact that Snape is supposed to be there and she's not supposed to be know like the full details of that?

Andrew: That's true.

Matt: Well, Snape's not there though. Maybe this is afterwards, after the fight, and she could have climbed up on the Astronomy Tower and that's how they left or something.

Andrew: In the...

Matt: Because I don't remember Bellatrix - does Bellatrix leave with Snape?

Caller: At the very end, yes.

Matt: Oh, geez.

Andrew: The way I always pictured it in the book - weren't they on the top top? Like there wasn't even sort of like a cove like this. It wasn't like a window looking out. Wasn't it on top where you could just - like there was no walls?

Matt: Mmm, no.

Andrew: Isn't that how it's illustrated in the book?

Matt: I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't know.

Andrew: Well...

Matt: The very top of the Astronomy Tower? Where Dumbledore got killed?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Well, no. Dumbledore got thrown through the window, I think.

Andrew: Was it? Because when I read the book, I always pictured it as being the very top. Because they were looking out with binoculars - sorry, telescopes.

Matt: Yeah, you're right.

Andrew: I don't know.

Matt: I don't know.

Andrew: All right.

Caller: Yeah, I thought he fell over, I guess, the battlements or something. I think he just fell right over. There wasn't a window.

Andrew: Yeah, that's what I thought too. All right, well, Shivani, thank you for calling in. Oh, and what was your initial reaction when you came online and you saw it?

Caller: Surprise, completely. I thought - we just got the leaked trailer not long ago, so it's kind of a shocker to have like two trailers so soon.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. Well, it's very exciting, and, Shivani, you have a good day.

Caller: You too. Thank you.

Matt: Bye.

Andrew: Bye. All right, there was Shivani who enjoyed the trailer very much. If you do want to call in and get your opinions here on the show, our phone-line doesn't seem to be working, so use the MuggleCast Skype name. It's just MuggleCast, and you Skype call it. The number does not seem to be working. If you are just joining us, there's 160 people now, and when we first started the show there was like 50. Of course, the Half-Blood Prince trailer was released this morning by surprise to all Harry Potter fans, and everyone was very excited, including our next caller, Sophie. Good morning.



Call: Hermione's Hair


Caller: Hey, what's up?

Matt: Hey.

Andrew: Hey, what's up? You were...

Caller: Sorry.

Andrew: ...surprised - plug in your headphones or something so there's no feedback, please.

Caller: I turned down the volume.

Andrew: Oh perfect, even better.

[Sophie laughs]

Andrew: So your reaction: You go online, you see a headline, "New Half-Blood Prince Trailer." How do you react?

Matt: What goes on through your mind?

Andrew: What goes through...

Caller: [laughs] Oh my gosh, I was so excited. I got your guys' update on Facebook.

Andrew: Oh, perfect. I knew those were handy! I never knew if anyone was looking at them. [laughs] Well that's great.

Caller: Yeah, so immediately I logged onto MuggleCast, and I was downloading the HD one, so that sort of took awhile, but it amped me up. I was ready.

Andrew: It's worth it right? The HD quality?

Caller: Yeah, it was amazing, I loved it.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: It was so much better than the last two.

Andrew: Oh my God.

Matt: Yeah. I have to say, there's no fire in this. I'm so relieved.

Andrew: No, there is. There's the shot of Dumbledore.

Matt: But not as much.

Andrew: Oh, oh I get it. [laughs]

Matt: Not in every other scene.

Andrew: If you count the fireplace shots and stuff, there is a good amount of fire. I'm just kidding.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Anyway, Sophie, was there anything that really stuck out to you or anything?

Caller: I really liked the Hermione and the frizzy hair. I know you guys already talked about that.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: I appreciated seeing it. I think everyone else did too.

Andrew: That's the news of the day, isn't it?

Caller: [laughs] Everyone's freaking out.

Andrew: Anyway, Penny and Sophie, Matt and I, quite honestly, we don't have long hair. We don't know how to manage that. Sophie, by your Skype picture, it looks like you do have long hair.

[Sophie laughs]

Andrew: What do you think it took for them to do that, and why do you think it's taken so long?

Caller: I don't know. Like personally, with my hair, that would never happen, because it doesn't work like that.

Andrew: [laughs] Are you saying Hermione had a bad hair day?

Caller: Maybe. She might have woken up on the wrong side of the bed.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: I don't know, but it must have taken probably like an hour to get it that frizzy.

[Andrew laughs]

Penny: They could just have stuck a ton of spray in her hair while it was wet, and she woke up and it was frizzy like that.

Matt: Or blew up like five balloons and started just rubbing it against her hair.

Penny: I don't think this was like a major CGI effect or anything that we're dealing with.

Matt: I don't know. Her hair is pretty pixelated.

Caller: I also want to say, I love Harry and Ginny. Finally like a bit longer of a scene with them maybe?

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: Still not focusing on them very much.

Penny: No, they're not, and I just also hope that like within Order of the Phoenix, the way that they did Cho's kiss was you almost thought that he was going to end up with Cho, and there was such drama leading up to it.

Andrew: Oh yeah.

Penny: I really hope that they do a decent job with the Ginny one, because that's the one that's important.

Caller: I hope that they have really good chemistry, because I know she really played like the little awkward-in-love-with-him girl really well, but I'm excited to see how she's going to play the actual girlfriend.

Andrew: Yeah, back very quickly to this bushy hair. If you look at the shot, Seamus is also like pretty scruffed up, so maybe there was like some sort of like explosion or something and that's why her hair is bushy. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah, maybe.

Penny: Unfortunately, though.

Caller: I think you just have a thing for this bushy hair.

Andrew: Yeah, I do.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: What can I say?

Matt: Well, maybe she had to look different by comparison because Lavender's on the other side of Ron.

Andrew: That's true too. Lavender's...

Penny: But then they shouldn't have given Lavender Brown curly hair, but...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Or blonde.

Andrew: She's got the bow to differentiate I guess.

[Sophie laughs]

Penny: Yeah, but have you seen how many comments on YouTube for the last trailer? People have been going crazy about "Ron and Hermione kissing," and I'm like ...

Caller: I know, they totally did that on purpose.

Penny: ...no, that's not her.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I don't think they realized what they were doing actually. [laughs]

Caller: I think they're trying to play up like if you haven't read the books, you're going to be like a dumb fan and be like, "Oh my god, Ron's kissing Hermione!"

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah, it's like, "Oh you're a fan of the movies, you're not a fan of the books."

Caller: Exactly. [laughs]

Andrew: Sex sells.

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