The Fountain of Fair Fortune

Andrew: And then next is "The Fountain of Fair Fortune," where there's the three witches and the knight. I think it was, the knight, right?

Matt: Yeah, there was the three witches and the knight.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: And they have a journey to this fountain whoever bathes in it will have fortune for the rest of their life.

Matt: Yeah, good fortune for their entire life.

Andrew: Mhm. And this seems to be one of the general favorites of the book, correct, guys?

Matt: Yeah. It was my favorite.

Micah: Yeah, Jamie, do you know whose favorite it was, actually?

Jamie: Who, Arthur Levine's?

Andrew: Yeah.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Does that mean it's your favorite too, Micah?

Micah: No, actually, it's not my favorite, but...

Jamie: Ah.

Andrew: He read this one online - on Scholastic's website, didn't he? There's a video of him reading this?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: I'm pretty sure there was.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And so, this was a good one.

Matt: Yeah, I really liked it...

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: It seemed more like a like more of a - more of a broader - almost like a bigger budget if it was a film kind of a story.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: It was more detailed.

Matt: It's part of a journey.

Jamie: And it's extremely moraled as well - like it was...

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: ...she's obviously trying to show - you know - that the journey's more important, as Dumbledore says in - no sorry, as Jo says in the beginning, that the journey's more important than the...

Matt: Mhm. Just so much involved in the story, too.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Well, in the story this garden opens on summer solstice when the day is the longest and on this day the garden picks one person with a lot of problems in their life and they are allowed to bathe in the Fountain and all their troubles would go away. This story in particular, three witches who caught pity on each other band together and became, like, a little team. If one of them was chosen they would all three go in and help each other. So on that day one of the witches was picked and they all grabbed on to each other and the last witch that was grabbed on was actually entangled in a knight's armor and he was dragged into it too. But my question that I found kind of interesting was that the creepers, quote-unquote, which are kind of these little vines that grow up buildings and things caught the first witch and did that mean that the garden only wanted than one witch or was the garden aware of the truce between all the witches?

Andrew: I don't know.

Matt: Because we know at the end of the story that the Fountain really had no fortune at all.

Jamie: To be fair, like, fair fortune is really just chance, so it could just have come out, and they just managed to catch on to it.

Matt: Right. But what I mean was the Fountain had no special ability actually at all.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah, it was just, like, a water cooler.

Matt: No enchantment.

Matt: Drinking fountain.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: It was kind of disappointing, though. Why didn't it actually have Fair Fortune? Because - I mean, these are fairy tales. It could easily have something like that. So why not?

Laura: Well...

Matt: Well, I think it's the moral of the story...

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: ...that you have the power to solve your own problems.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Okay.

Matt: This question I kind of thought was interesting when I was reading it, but didn't you think that this story had a good connection to Goblet of Fire in the Maze? Like, because of all the things you had to pass though?

Jamie: Yeah.

Laura: Mhm.

Matt: In order to get to - you know, the trophy, the thing that you're looking for.

Andrew and Laura: Yeah.

Matt: So I kind of thought that this was the story that would probably be a good object to do in the Triwizard Tournament.

Jamie: And that's a very interesting point, yeah. Especially since the Tale of the Three Brothers was so heavy in Book 7. Because Jo just likes to add stuff in that some people won't, there's so many layers. I wouldn't be surprised if it was that.

Matt: And also there's four champions in the Goblet of Fire, and the last one wasn't even supposed to be part of the journey.

Laura: Oh, yeah!

Jamie: Oh, Matt!

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: Oh, God!

Andrew: You're brilliant.

Jamie: Should we take a moment of silence?

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Well, not to mention it's sort of the same but, like, opposite. Like in this story it's three witches and a wizard but then in Goblet of Fire it's three wizards and a witch that are in the Maze.

Andrew and Matt: Oh, yeah!

Matt: But the knight's not even - he's a Muggle. The knight's a Muggle.

Laura: Oh, he is a knight.

Matt: Yeah.

Laura: That's interesting.

Andrew: Matt sort of brought up a good point. In this story, I don't think if anyone heard it, the knight is the odd one out and he wins, and in Goblet of Fire Harry is the odd one out and he won.

Laura: And he wins, yeah.

Jamie: It's also about cooperation as well, like magical and non-magical cooperation - you know, and that people can work together.

Matt: And he was the humblest of the four, too.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: He's the one that gave up and let the witches win.

Andrew and Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: All right, moving along.

Matt: We don't even have to say the third one, because we kind of already talked about it.

Micah: Okay.

Andrew: Micah?

Micah: Well, I was looking at the sketch of the Fountain which is on page 34 in the U.S. edition of it. What I thought was interesting was that it has the Deathly Hallows symbol on the lowest bowl if you look at it. I don't know what page it is in the U.K.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Oh, yeah.

Micah: And it also looks like the main base that's holding it together is a snake with some sort of wings on it.

Matt: I think it might be a dragon.

Laura: It looks like a dragon.

Andrew and Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: I noticed the symbol too, what does that mean? Could that mean anything, though? I didn't realize what was going on with that.

Micah: I don't know.

Jamie: What are the other two symbols?

Matt: It's an eye.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: One of them is a rune, but I don't know what it means.

Jamie: I think it's a Freemason conspiracy.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: And then there's that number four on the third level.

Jamie: Dan Brown's...

Matt: I know. I'm like, "Is this the Da Vinci Code?"

Matt: Wow, yeah. I guess this is a bunch of symbols that she just uses.

Jamie: What, this is just a bigger...

Matt: Yeah, this is just the key to some bigger thing that nobody knows about.

Andrew: Maybe if we decode this it's like "Harry Potter Book 8 2010."

Laura: Exactly.

Matt and Jamie: Yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Laura: If we decode it, she'll write Book 8.

Andrew: [laughs] Right.

Jamie: If those two teamed up, Dan Brown and J.K. Rowling!

Andrew: Someone should start a rumor.

Matt and Andrew: Yeah.

Andrew: It would be kind of cool if there was a hidden puzzle on there. It's like a little game in the book.

Jamie and

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: To figure out. It doesn't even have to relate to the story. All right, what's next?

Micah: Well, Dumbledore spent a lot of time in his notes on this story talking about the pantomime, and I guess that's a British term because - Andrew, you said that this actually doesn't show up in the UK edition...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...the footnote doesn't show up in the UK edition, about what a pantomime is.

Andrew: Yeah. What does the footnote say? For those of us who have the UK books right now and can't even see it?

Micah: Let me see.

Laura: I'm trying to find it.

Micah: Yeah, I have it.

Andrew: It starts off with, like, "UK Muggles may not be aware of..."

Laura: Oh! Yeah, it says: "Non-British Muggles may be unfamiliar with the British tradition of plays presented at Christmastime usually based on fairy tales and including music, comical characters, and audience participation (though not, generally, of the vigorous type described here)."

Andrew: That's interesting.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: It's probably like the one difference between the books.

Jamie: The two books, yeah.

Laura: But it's just another example that, once again, Scholastic thinks Americans are stupid and can't understand certain things. Like, apparently Americans don't know what philosophers are. So...

Matt and Andrew: Yeah.

Andrew: That's true.

Laura: So annoying.

[Micah laughs]

Jamie: Sorcerer's Stone is weakening as well because, Sorcerer's Stone, it's just ridiculous.

Laura: It's such a stupid title!

Andrew: To be honest, I didn't know what a pantomime is.

Micah: Yeah, but I think you can figure it out, though.

Matt: I mean, yeah. If you really cared enough, you would go and find it.

Laura: It's called a dictionary!

Matt: Yeah. Or a thesaurus.

Laura: We do have those here.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Or an Internet.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: Yeah, an Internet.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Well, I mean...

Matt: A World Wide Web.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Plus, if you go through this book there's plenty of other things you'll see that you don't know what they are.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: I mean, like, there's no explanation of a charlatan which was the guy in "Cackling Stump." But - you know, there's no explanation of that.

Laura: Well...

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: I didn't know what it was! I'll be honest, I hadn't heard the word before!

Matt: What is it?

Andrew: It's a person.

Jamie: No, it's like a faker, isn't it? A joker who just flaunts about.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt: Oh. Well why didn't they just put that in the book - like, a sidenote saying, "For those of you who don't know what a charlatan is..."

Andrew: "See W.B.'s The Dark Knight."

Matt: Yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: When's the night always darkest?

Matt: The night's always darkest before the dawn. And, the dawn is coming.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: That's coming out on DVD.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: Buy it on Blu-Ray and DVD.

Hogwarts Professors and Malfoy Mentioned

Andrew: And then we also heard about a couple new characters. First, Professor Herbert Beery of Herbology and Professor Silvanus Kettleburn of Care of Magical Creatures, that was kind of cool.

Matt: Yeah!

Jamie: I thought this was the only kind of, like, digression in this book. I thought it was kind of pointless to be honest.

Andrew: Yeah, it was. It felt like filler to me.

Jamie: Yeah, it did. It felt like filler.

Laura: I liked it.

Micah: I thought it was the first look into Hogwarts we got, really...

Jamie: That's true, yeah, yeah.

Micah: ...that we didn't know much about.

Andrew: Yeah, but - I mean...

Laura: Don't you guys...

Andrew: Go ahead.

Laura: I was going to say, don't you remember from Prisoner of Azkaban when Hagrid was given the post of Care of Magical Creatures professor, and Dumbledore was sort of giving his speech, and he said that Professor Kettleburn had left to enjoy the time with his remaining limbs?

Jamie: Oh, yeah! That's true, yeah.

Laura: So I thought this was kind of cool because it gave us background about that...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Mhm. That is very true, yeah, that's good.

Andrew: And, like I mentioned earlier, this is a story where Dumbledore explains why Malfoy originally started his - you know, the feud between the two.

Jamie and Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Yep.

Matt: I loved how he said that Mr. Malfoy kept writing back to him, and he just ignored him.

Andrew: Yeah, that was funny.

Laura: Yeah.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Matt: "I said what I'm saying and..."

Jamie: And his hygiene as well.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. That was really funny.

Jamie: His hygiene.

Micah: Yep.

Andrew: "Their relevance to this commentary is remote."

[Micah and Andrew laugh]

Micah: It's just all humor - I mean, if you look at it. Really, the whole pantomime thing, it's pretty comical scene, and everything with Lucius, too. You know, he talks about how Lucius was trying to get him removed and he said, well, "I marked the beginning of me trying to get him removed as Voldemort's Favorite Death Eater."

Matt and Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: I just like to think he wrote this-tell me if I'm wrong - after he decided to die, because I think the paragraph that starts, "This exchange marked the beginning of Mr. Malfoy's long campaign" and ends with, "And of mine to have him removed from his position as Lord Voldemort's Favorite Death Eater" is not something that Dumbledore would write if, when he wasn't sure of stuff and things that were going on, because that's quite an accusation, even though most people know.

Matt: Well, he always knew that Malfoy was a big supporter of Malfoy.

Jamie: Yeah, Voldemort.

Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Matt: That guy.

Jamie: That nasty man.

Andrew: But again, we also do have to remember that these are his personal notes.

Jamie: That's such a weird concept, though. They're written completely to be published, obviously.

Andrew: Right. So it sort of doesn't make sense, in a way.

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: But I think that was just for...

Matt: Just enjoy it! I mean, it's a book.

Andrew: Just go with it, don't analyze it.

Jamie: It's true.

Matt: Stop!

Micah: [laughs] All right, then we can stop recording right now.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Okay.

Jamie: After 170 episode, Andrew says, "Don't analyze it!"

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: And - anything else in this story we should talk about?

Jamie: I think it's pretty done.

Andrew: I think that was it, yeah. All right!

Matt: So, good read.

The Warlock's Hairy Heart

Andrew: "The Warlock's Hairy Heart." This was a really clever one, I thought.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: This is...

Andrew: Hmm?

Micah: No, I was going to say, this is where the tales really start to turn dark.

Everyone: Yeah.

Andrew: This was very brutal for something in a Harry Potter novel!

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: Very tragic. It's the most tragic of, I think, all the stories.

Jamie: It really is tragic, yeah, it is.

Andrew: And basically, a quick summary, the warlock has a hairy heart, he takes it out of himself, then he meets this chick who - I think she's the one who's like - "Put the heart back in, so you can feel true love." Right? Something like that?

Laura: Right.

Matt: That was the best summary I've ever heard.

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Andrew: I've forgotten.

Laura: [impersonating Andrew] "And he met some chick, and she was like, 'Dude, put your heart back in, man.'"

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: And if you think about it, the way we've just been describing it, it sounds like the summary of every single romantic comedy.

Jamie: Yeah, it's true, yeah.

Matt: A guy doesn't want to fall in love, so he takes his heart out, and it's up to a woman to bring the heart back into him.

Jamie: And then they kiss.

Matt: And then they kiss and he cuts open her heart and his and then they die.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: Well, he eats it.

Matt: He eats the heart, yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: That's always the end to it.

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: Like Hannibal Lector.

Micah: I don't even know how to go on.

Jamie: I thought this one was the best, honestly. She just said everything in, like, a few pages. The words she used as well, like she deliberately said, "warlock" and how she described him - you know, like he was up to the top of his place, that there was no way he could get anything more. I thought it was going to end in tragedy right from the beginning.

Matt: Mhm.

Micah: Right.

Matt: Well, he was totally heartless, in...

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: ...in literal and figurative sense...

Jamie: Yeah, that's true.

Matt: ...during the entire story. I didn't really realize he used Dark Magic to take out his heart.

Laura: Yeah, and I sort of like the connection Dumbledore made between that and the Horcruxes.

Jamie: Yeah, that was really cool.

Andrew: Oh, yeah!

Matt: Yeah, that was nice. Well, do you think the connection has any connection to how the part actually disconnected itself from the body and became its own...

Jamie: Definitely, yeah.

Laura: Yeah. It sort of, yeah, and it took over.

Jamie: Also when the two figures of Ron and - sorry, of Harry and Hermione came out of the Horcrux and spoke to Ron. Like, you know, it took over and sort of fed on your worst nightmares and stuff.

Matt: Well, what would happen, though, if you took a Horcrux and you took the spirit back into your self?

Jamie: Could you do that?

Matt: I don't know. Can you do that?

Andrew: I don't think so.

Matt: Was that ever discussed?

Jamie: I don't think that was discussed.

Andrew: So you can put a piece of soul back inside you?

Matt: Obviously you can split it, does that mean it's permanently split, you can't take it back from you?

Andrew: I kind of remember reading that somewhere or discussing that.

Laura: Yeah.

Matt: Because wouldn't something like this happen then? Or is it just not possible?

Jamie: Yeah, yeah, he says it's impossible, it can only happen in fiction.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, not to mention the moral of this story was that if you take your heart out, I mean, this wasn't the real moral, but you learn from the story that if you take your heart out and put it back, it'll be too late. I mean, the heart is already...

Jamie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew: ...has a mind of its own.

Jamie: It's a warning. The other ones are kind of - like, lessons, but this is more of a warning.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: But it's also from, like, Dark Magic, too...

Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: ...that's controlling the heart.

Micah: Right.

Jamie: It was a bit Pirates of the Caribbean.

[Micah laughs]

Laura: I know, I thought of that as well. I didn't want to be the one to say it...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: There's a lot of footnote action going on in this story, too...

Matt: Oh, snap.

Andrew: ...in Dumbledore's notes.

Micah: Yeah. Well, the main thing he said, though, was that it speaks to the dark depths in all of us and that's kind of why it survived...

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: ...and was pretty much unchanged over the years. I mean, what do you guys think? Do you think stories like that, you know, that have these gory, evil, nasty, disgusting scenes in them generally survive? I mean, do we like them, we just don't like to admit that we like them?

Jamie: It's true, yeah.

Matt: Well, this is definitely one of those stories where they would definitely turn it into a cute, happy ending Disney film.

Jamie: Yeah.

[Micah laughs]

Matt: Because this reminds me of - like, The Little Mermaid. The little mermaid - like, sacrificed herself for the person that she loved and now it turned into - like, her father magically gave her legs, and she married the prince and they lived happily ever after.

Jamie: Right, hell yeah. He's got unlimited ability to just grant people legs.

Matt: This is like one of those Middle Age, classic fairy tales that constantly get redone.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: It's kind of like Toy Story where the toys go out on their own...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...like, Buzz goes out on his own and realizes he's not a toy.

Matt: Kind of, but not. So, the footnotes?

Andrew: Go ahead.

Matt: I was going to talk about the pictures, but are we still on the footnotes?

Andrew: No.

Jamie: Gruesome!

Matt: I love this photo. I think it's one of my favorite pictures in the entire book. It's just so graphic.

Laura: The one where they're both laying there dead?

Matt: They're both laying there dead with their chests split open and...

Jamie: Oh, you love reading that, isn't it? Touching to you.

Matt: Well, look, there's a little hairy heart but the big heart, it looks like a rotisserie chicken!

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: It does, it really does, yeah.

Andrew: It kind of looks like Snape or Sirius, doesn't it?

Matt and Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Like a young Snape or Sirius?

Laura: Yeah, it kind of does.

Jamie: It looks like an elf.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Regulus.

Andrew: And the girl, she kind of...

Jamie: She doesn't look like anything!

[Laura laughs]

Matt: She doesn't look very well, does she?

Jamie: She looks like the girl from The Ring?

Micah: Yeah. She doesn't look like she was described in the book. You know, you're expecting...

Jamie: Yeah.

Laura: Well, you know, someone had just cut her heart out. I don't know how you look after someone does that to you.

Micah: Well, her face wouldn't change.

Matt: She's got a long neck, too.

Jamie: Yeah, she does.

Micah: Vampire.

Andrew: Jo's still working on her sketches of women.

[Jamie laughs]

Matt: She drew the guy really nicely, though. I mean, you can see all the wrinkles and disfigurements on his face.

Andrew and Jamie: Yeah.

Jamie: Yeah, I can see.

Matt: He's got jeans on.

Laura: The visuals in this story are, like, really disturbing.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, they are.

[Micah laughs]

Laura: Like, the whole part where it's like, he was like, licking the heart.

Andrew, Jamie, and Matt: Yeah!

Matt: Yeah, that was gross.

Laura: [laughs] Isn't that disgusting?

Micah: Yeah.

Hector Dagworth-Granger

Andrew: We have this interesting e-mail about "The Warlock's Hairy Heart." It says:

"Hi, Mugglecast! This is from Rachel H. I love the story but Dumbledore's commentary left me a bit confused. On page 57 of the U.S. edition, Dumbledore leaves a footnote regarding the search for a true love potion. He says, "Hector Dagworth-Granger, founder of the Most Extraordinary Society of Potioneers, explains, 'Powerful infatuations can be produced by the skillful potioneer, but never yet has anyone managed to create the truly unbreakable, eternal, unconditional attachment that alone can be called love.' Rachel says: Okay, maybe I didn't have to write all that, but my point it, Hermione's a Muggleborn. Is Jo hinting she gets her magical talent from a wizard in her distant family? I doubt the Granger is just a coincidence."

Jamie: This was solved in Book 6. Didn't he ask if, like, if she was related to Dagworth-Granger?

Laura: Oh, yeah, he did.

Andrew: Oh!

Matt: That's true, he did.

Andrew: Good memory, geez.

Jamie: And then Harry's just like, "No, sir." And she's like, "Oh, did you really tell him I was the best witch in the year? Oh, Harry."

Andrew: Good memory, Jamie.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Jeez, man.

Matt: How many times have you read the books?

Laura: And if for any reason the relation, like, was valid, earlier in Beedle the Bard when Dumbledore was talking about Squibs and Muggleborns in one of his little commentaries, he said something about how most of the time, Muggleborn witches and wizards do come about because of a magical relative further back in their family tree.

Matt: Mhm.

Micah and Jamie: Yeah.

Matt: It's possible.

Micah: I mean, it's a common last name.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: Yeah, but I still think it's an interesting connection. Because especially the quote that Dumbledore uses.

Micah: Yeah, but that's really impressive, Jamie, I don't know how the hell you remembered that.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: Thanks.

Matt: Well done.

Andrew: Micah, you want to do that last point there?

Dumbledore's Humor and Lessons

Micah: Yeah, it's just more of the humor of Dumbledore. And he goes back to talking about Beatrix Bloxam and how in her notes somewhere she wrote that she had overheard the story but that at the same time she had also overheard something about her Uncle Nobby, the local hag, and a sack of Bouncing Bulbs.

[Micah and Matt laugh]

Micah: So, you know, that's Dumbledore's way to lighten the mood on such a serious story. It seems like this is a story that you would try and overhear your parents telling to, maybe, your older siblings, because you'd always want to know about it. It seems like a story that maybe your older siblings would try to tell you to scare you or something like that.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: But...

Jamie: This is a - go on, sorry.

Micah: No, go ahead.

Jamie: No, I was just going to refer to Adalbert Waffling's Fundamental Laws of Magic, which I thought was an awesome thing because - like, it brings magic down onto a non-magical level and says that it's not like it can do anything which is - like, kind of a moral for the entire Harry Potter series. That, you know, like in Book 7 when the Prime Minister is talking to the Minister of Magic and, "You can do magic!" And the Minister's like, "Yeah, but the other side can do it as well." I just thought that was a really awesome touch. Just like, "Tamper with the deepest mysteries, the sources of life, the essence of self, only if prepared for consequences of, the most extreme and dangerous kind," which is obviously Horcrux and Voldemort and everything like that.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: There were a lot of books that were for two in the story, for Dumbledore's notes.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Like Albert Wafling's Fundamental Laws of Magic - what was the other book that you mentioned?

Andrew: Fantastic Beasts.

Matt: Yeah, Fantastic Beasts, I guess.

Andrew: Is Jo doing like a little plug for her own book?

Micah: [laughs] Yeah, that's what I thought.

Matt: You see, well this one I like the most. The self help book, The Hairy Heart: A Guide to Wizards Who Won't Commit.

Jamie: Yeah.

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Matt: I would buy that.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: And the hairy snout human heart? [laughs]

Matt: Yeah. Well yeah, it's... [laughs] 'Hairy snout human heart,' that was funny.

Micah: Yeah.

Jamie: Very good.

Micah: But - and the other funny piece that was in here was when he was talking about his Aunt Anoria calling off her engagement because her suitor had a hairy heart. And I think that was again, an attempt to explain to us exactly what a hairy heart was.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Kind of similar to the pantomime thing, I don't know if it's a more common expression in other places than others, but then Dumbledore adds in that he doesn't believe that that was the reason the engagement was broke off. It was because she was - oh I'm sorry - because he was fondling some horclumps.

[Everyone laughs]

Micah: And you know, this made me think that this book, though really while it's supposed to be about a bunch of fairy tales, it really appeals to more of an adult audience, just with some of the things that are discussed.

Matt: Yeah. It's very difficult to see why anyone would want to fondle a...

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Matt: Beause their just like these little mushroom like creatures.

Andrew: It's true.

Matt: Like hamsters, yeah.

Micah: But don't you think, though, I mean there's a lot of insinuation going on...

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: With you know, her uncle and the local hag and a sack of bouncing bulbs, and then fondling some horclumps.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: There are other things throughout the course of this book that are just kind of perverted in a way.

Jamie: It's true, yeah.

Andrew: Jo's letting out now!

Micah: She is! [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Harry Potter's over. I mean, she doesn't have to - you know?

Matt: She could do whatever she wants.

Andrew: She could write all these gruesome scenes and call people - what were those insults in the beginning?

Laura: Scum suckers?

Andrew: Scum suckers!

Jamie: There we go. Yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Matt: That was nice.

Andrew: Yeah. [pause] Dung licker! That's my favorite.

[Matt groans]

Andrew: Dung licker.

Matt: Dung licker.

[Laura laughs]

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