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Show Intro

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Andrew: Because we have yet another Half-Blood Prince trailer, this is MuggleCast Episode 169 for January 23rd, 2009.

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Andrew: And good morning! I couldn't hear myself, sorry. [clears throat] MuggleCast Live. It's a new day. We have a new trailer, and we have a wonderful panel here today. First up, Ben Schoen's back. Hey, Ben.

Ben: How are you?

Andrew: I'm good, Ben. How are you?

Ben: I'm great.

Andrew: Good.

Ben: You know, doing school and all that.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: It's going well.

Andrew: Mhm. Thanks for joining us. Laura's also here. Hi, Laura.

Laura: Hey!

Andrew: Love you.

Laura: It's good to be here again.

Andrew: Yeah. Sorry, is there something wrong with doing two live shows in a week!?

Laura: No, no, nothing at all. It's fantastic.

Andrew: Excellent, excellent.

Laura: You know I live for this kind of thing.

Ben: I think we should do a live show every week.

Andrew: [laughs] I'd do one every day.

Laura: Will you actually be here?

Andrew: Ooh.

Ben: Huh? If we did a live show every week I'd be here.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah right.

Ben: Live shows are so much fun.

Andrew: They are, they are.

Ben: They are.

Andrew: Also, Micah's here.

Ben: They're better than doing a regular show.

Andrew: I think so. Hey Micah.

Micah: Hey. What's up?

Andrew: Nothing. You?

Micah: Not too much.

Andrew: And also, Nick's here. Hey Nick.

[Laura laughs]

Nick: Hey Andrew. Thanks for having me back on.

Andrew: Hey, no problem. Like I said, the fans love to hear the wonderful English voice of Nick. So there you go.

Ben: Hey, don't cheapen Nick down to just his English voice.

Andrew: [laughs] I'm not!

Ben: He has much more to contribute than just that, Andrew.

Andrew: He does. He absolutely does. I'm just saying the fans love Nick partially because he's English. Isn't that right, Nick?

Nick: Mainly because I'm English, yeah. [laughs]

Announcement: MuggleSpace Close to 10,000 Members

Andrew: [laughs] Okay. So actually, we have a very exciting announcement to kick off the show. And I only spoke to Ben about this, so I hope you all are very excited. We're actually very close 10,000 members on MuggleSpace. We actually have 9,934 members, so I thought it would be exciting if maybe the people in the live stream right now could possibly help us break the 10,000 mark, and then we'll have a celebration. Wouldn't that be fun?

Laura: Oh, that's pretty cool.

Ben: Yeah, and that includes me. I haven't even signed up for MuggleSpace yet.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: I'm going to go sign up right now pushing us towards the 10,000. So, everybody join me right now on Let's all sign...

Micah: Ben, what are you talking about? Your picture's on so many different people's profiles.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: Your picture is everywhere.

Micah: I thought you joined like a thousand times. Yeah.

Ben: I'm actually going to be - I'm making a profile and all that.

Micah: Oh, okay. Did you know your picture was being used as the default?

Ben: I did know that actually, yes. I have been to MuggleSpace, I just didn't create an account.

Andrew: There was actually - it was actually Mason's idea to set the picture of you as the default picture.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Ben: Why exactly was that the idea? I'm just curious.

Andrew: Because it's funny. Because it's you.

Ben: Oh, thank you.

New HBP Trailer Released in Japan

Andrew: [laughs] It's nothing personal. Anyway, we're here, we're live. Why are we here? A new trailer came out for Half-Blood Prince in Japan, actually. It wasn't even a U.S. trailer. But it's actually a surprisingly good trailer, if I do say so myself. Would everyone else agree?

Nick: Yeah.

Andrew: Don't all speak at once! Laura? Hesitation?

Laura: Well, okay, it was cool to see some of the new scenes, and I kind of see that we have some comments on this later in the show. It was kind of poorly put together, I thought.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, let's be honest. This isn't - it didn't even feel like a trailer. You know what I mean? It was kind of...

Laura: No, it felt like a T.V. ad.

Andrew: Yeah, and this Japanese television, I'll tell you, you watch this video and there's all this crap running at the same time as the trailer. It's like, how distracting! But I guess that's typical Japanese television. There's all this stuff and these credits...

Micah: It looked like it was running after a movie.

Andrew: Yeah. Exactly.

Micah: If you looked at the bottom right hand corner of the video, there was a little box that had a scrolling list of credits. So it was almost like it was a T.V. show, or a movie, or something like that.

Andrew: Exactly. Yeah, so it was a bit strange. Not to mention that it took a while for this trailer to come out. It had aired on Japanese television, what, three or four days ago now? And just now, finally, somebody decided to put it on YouTube. Well, let's go around the panel. Hey, Nick, how about your thoughts? What did you think about this trailer? What are we going to call it? A T.V. trailer?

Nick: Yeah, it was more of a T.V. trailer than anything, wasn't it? Yeah, I loved seeing the new scenes. Like Laura said, it was poorly put together, but that didn't bother me too much. It was just good to see something new.

Michael Gambon as Dumbledore

Andrew: Yeah. And what really stood out for me with this trailer was the acting. Particularly Dumbledore. He continues to please me in these trailers, and I don't know about everyone else, but do you remember what he said in this trailer? The comment about traveling via - what were they doing? They were Apparating.

Laura: Oh yeah, he was like, "That was fun."

Ben: Most people throw up the first time?

Andrew: Yeah, hold on, let me play the clip really quick. Boom. Boom.

[Trailer clip plays]

Andrew: [laughs] It was pretty funny!

Laura: That was pretty good.

Andrew: There's a certain tone in Dumbledore's voice, I think, tat - he's different, isn't he? We've seen four trailers now. Am I the only one who thinks he's really going to be different in Half-Blood Prince?

Ben: No, he's not.

Laura: Well, something you need to consider, though - I really don't think in terms of acting, I don't think he's going to be different. But I think Dumbledore as a character was different in Half-Blood Prince.

Andrew: Mhm. He was weaker.

Laura: Yes, he was weaker, and he was sharing more information with Harry. He was more frank with him.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: I know that reading the books, I saw a change of him as a character, so I'm not really sure it's due to Michael Gambon finally reading the books or something. I think it's just the way Dumbledore's character sort of evolved as the books wore on.

Andrew: Ben? Did you have something to say about it? I thought you were...

Ben: Oh, about the trailer in general?

Andrew: Well, about Dumbledore.

Ben: About Dumbledore.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I mean, I don't really think you can tell if Gambon has developed or changed much just by looking at a few trailer clips, but I hope that he portrays Dumbledore in a better way than he has in the past. But it's gotten to the point where after a while, he's been Dumbledore for so long that when I read the books, I think of Dumbledore - I just get it all mixed up anyways, so...

Andrew: Mhm.

Ben: me, in a way, he's become Dumbledore, he's made Dumbledore his own character.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. There's just this extra - different tone in his voice that I'm really, really enjoying. Nick, Micah, any thoughts about this?

Nick: Yeah, I'm really impressed with him in the trailer. From what I've seen, I think you're right, there is a bit of a change. I think the Dumbledore in the book itself changes into - Gambon's more serious, too, I agree what Laura said earlier.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

Micah: Well, I think the first trailer that we looked over - Ben and I actually discussed the fact that Gambon was changing. And Ben said something along the lines of, "How can you really say that if you've only seen 30 seconds of him on the screen?" And he's right about that. But I think as more and more trailers have now surfaced related to Half-Blood Prince, he does seem different. He seems like he's much more into the role, and he seems more along the lines of the Dumbledore that I expected.

Andrew: Do you think it's sort of like, "I've got one last chance to do this." Like really, you know, "It's my final shot," so he's really giving it his all? Or no?

Ben: I would say that not so much that, but more of the fact that he's had several movies now to get into the role, and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...he's developed more as Dumbledore. And now maybe he's got enough hate mail, enough flaming crap left on his doorstep...

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: ...that he's ready to be the Dumbledore we want to see.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: And we're absolutely positive this has nothing to do with the revelation that Dumbledore is gay?

Ben: So you're thinking that he's being more of like - being a softer character?

Andrew: Well, sort of.

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, because I mean, we - you know, right before the start of the film, we heard - of the start of them filming - there was that one thing from Dan Radcliffe saying, "Oh, yeah, he's camping it up a bit." And everyone was like, "Oh, he's just joking, he's not going to do that on film." But I think he acts a little different, and I don't know if it's because of that, but something's changing him. [laughs]

Micah: I don't know. I agree with Ben, though, to the extent that we're going to have to see the movie in full to know if he's really changed...

Andrew: I guess so, but all these...

Micah: ...compared to previous films.

Emma Watson Has Improved

Andrew: I guess. All these clips really have me. And then there's this - Hermione, personally, I think she's really advanced. And I know it's just another one clip, but listen to this, listen to this clip.

[Trailer clip plays]

Andrew: Now, if that was in Sorcerer's Stone...

Laura: Oh my God.

Andrew: ...she would be going, [in a whiney voice] "Do you honestly suspect that..." whatever she said. She's changed as an actor, too. I think she sounds really serious in this role and she's not that annoying girl that is in Sorcerer's Stone. [laughs]

Ben: Well, they...

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: ...they've grown up. They've grown up. They've matured as people and as actors, and it just really shows...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...because, like you said, there's no - it's not the same, and you don't get annoyed by how bad their acting is, so...

Andrew: Right. Yeah.

Ben: They've come a long ways.

Laura: I agree with you, Andrew. Because in past films she kind of had a tendency to exaggerate her lines, like you were saying. And in this particular clip, at least, she just sounds more like the Hermione that I imagine in the books.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: Her tone is just softer, but at the same time, it's so much better. She doesn't need to use - she doesn't need to accentuate every word to get her point across.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: So I really appreciate that she's finally...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: ...doing that.

Andrew: It's just really refreshing. She's very serious and it's not annoying. It's not a typical role. Now, I don't think there's enough proof for Rupert and Dan, but - Micah, were you about to say something?

Micah: No, but I will if you want me to. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, go ahead. I thought I heard a Micah.

Micah: No, no, no, no.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: No, I agree with what Ben said. They're older now, so - and I would expect that her voice from Sorcerer's Stone is completely different today. So she would obviously sound better then she would all those years ago. Probably almost ten years ago now.

Andrew: Yeah. But I think it has to do with the acting, too.

Micah: Oh, absolutely. But over time you mature.

Andrew: Mhm.

Micah: And she definitely has.

Emphasis on "The Chosen One"

Andrew: Yeah. Now, another thing with this trailer that I noticed, and we got a couple pieces of feedback about this - and I'm trying to see if we - I don't think it's in here. But there's a lot of references to The Chosen One in this trailer, and the first reference is you see Snape doing it. He's like - what was he - here we go, I've got the clip right here.

[Trailer clip plays]

Andrew: He sounds so - I think this is the deepest Snape we've ever heard from Alan.

[Laura laughs]

Micah: He's awesome.

Andrew: Did you like that? Did you like that?

Micah: Yeah! I just think him playing Snape, it's just perfect. There's no other word to describe it. I just think he's perfect in that role.

Andrew: Yeah. I don't know, but that clip in particular really just freaks me out because he's hit a new vocal low. It just sounds so incredibly low. [laughs]

Micah: Like creepy low?

Andrew: Yeah, exactly! Here, let's listen again.

[Trailer clip plays again]

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: He sounds like...

Laura: He's got his big boy voice.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. It's cool, sort of, but if you listen to it a couple times you realize how deep it sounds. Yeah, so then there's that reference, and then they have the clip of Harry going, "But I am The Chosen One!" And I think there may have been one more reference, but I don't know.

Micah: Hermione.

Andrew: Right, yeah.

Micah: When they're in the library.

Andrew: Yeah. And then Harry says, "But I am..."

Nick: At the end.

Ben: "The Chosen One!"

Andrew: They do it at the end again, Nick?

Nick: Yeah, Dumbledore mentions it.

Andrew: Oh right. So is this going to be Harry Potter and The Chosen One? I mean, there's a lot of references to it. It's like - we get he's The Chosen One, but - I don't know. Do you think that'll be one big emphasis in this movie?

Micah: Clearly, yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: I think it could show up on a poster.

Laura: I'm hoping they don't do it every other line. That was one thing that annoyed me about the book, because they kept saying - there was that one scene where Harry was talking to Slughorn and he said, "I'm The Chosen One." And I was like, "Oh God, are you Jesus or something? Shut up!"

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: I got so sick of him saying that, so I really hope they tone it down in the movie.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: He is The Chosen One, Laura.

Laura: We know!

Andrew: Yeah, well, I sort of think in this Japanese trailer, it may have been also - maybe it was for comedic value. Like, "The Chosen One. The Chosen One! The Chosen One." I don't know, if you spread four...

Laura: But would that translate like that? I mean, obviously, they're just reading subtitles. Right? Like the Japanese subtitles?

Andrew: What do you mean? No, I mean, that's what they said. They didn't say it in the narration.

Laura: Yeah, yeah, I know, but there were subtitles in Japanese.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: And I'm assuming that if the subtitles were Japanese, most of the people watching it don't speak English.

Andrew: Oh!

Laura: Would that translate...

Andrew: Oh, I see what you're saying.

Laura: a joke? I don't know.

Andrew: Yeah. Which kind of confused me, because the narration in this trailer was Japanese - like the guy doing the narration, the voiceover guy. And then the clips were English, so shouldn't the - isn't that weird? Shouldn't the narration be English, too, and just do the whole thing Japanese subtitles?

Laura: Probably what they did was have someone do the narration in Japanese because we have our narration in English. And also because they can't release a trailer fully in Japanese because they haven't even dubbed the film yet. So they probably just got some random guy to dub over it, if you know what I'm saying, to kind of give more context to the trailer, to explain what's going on.

Ben: Well, and if it's going to be airing on Japanese T.V., it would probably make sense for there to be some Japanese in it.

Rating of the Film

Andrew: Yeah. No, you're right. But it would be like us listening to - well, maybe that's a bad example. Whatever. Just bringing it up for discussion sake. And the other thing is, yet, through all of this, it's still a PG film. And I really got a dark impression in this trailer.

Ben: I mean, if Snape's voice is going to be that low, it has to be PG-13.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: It looks pretty scary. I get nightmares.

Micah: Yeah. Well, not only that, but you look at the bridge being torn apart and the attack in Diagon Alley and all the fire that's going on around Hagrid's hut - Ben, I know you're probably pretty upset about that. Those are all really dark scenes. Andrew, you just said that. But I can't imagine, especially with Dumbledore dying, and I'm not sure how they do his death, but it's still PG? I don't know.

Andrew: Yeah. I'm so confused! I want to do an interview with the Motion Picture Association of America and be like, "Why!?" I don't know. I mean, I think WB's happy, because that just brings more people to the film. The little kids and their parents.

Ben: Do you think maybe - I don't know if you discussed this before - do you think that they may perhaps had less - when the movies before were rated PG-13, do you think that an audience they were trying to attract they weren't able to attract as much because of the PG-13 rating? And perhaps that's why the PG would be important to them this time?

Andrew: That's a good thought, but they did it for two films. Don't you think they would have noticed that after Goblet of Fire?

Ben: Yeah, probably. I don't know. Just thinking.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I'm wondering if this movie was rated the first time around, when it was supposed to be released in November, and if it received the same type of rating.

Andrew: Oh, it must have. I mean - well, yeah. Some bloggers were like, "Oh, it's just because the MPAA was just being generous or lenient that day." I don't know.

Micah: But do their rating systems change each year? You know? Does it go - like 2009, so now the standard for PG increases or decreases.

Ben: Yeah, because you would think with the constant degradation of society...

[Micah laughs]

Ben: ...that for sure it would be harder - or actually, what's PG-13 anymore isn't - is a higher...

Micah: It's R.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh, that's a good point, yeah. Because think about these days. These damn kids, they start cursing younger and younger every year.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: But I don't think - I mean, because then wouldn't video game companies be making their ratings more lenient too?

Laura: Well, I think the difference is that movies have been around a lot longer than video games. I mean, if you look at movies from twenty years ago and you look at the rating, the rating probably makes no sense to us.

Andrew: Yeah. I'm looking at a list: the Top 8 PG-rated Movies That Should Not Have Been Rated PG. To be honest with you, I haven't seen many of these personally, but Beetle Juice, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws. I can't believe Jaws was rated PG. I mean, that's pretty violent.

Ben: Jaws was rated PG?

Andrew: Yeah, back in '75.

Ben: Wow.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] Pretty bad. So maybe they were just feeling a little lenient, who knows? They should put a man-eating shark in Half-Blood Prince just to make it worse.

[Nick laughs]

Andrew: And they'd still get away with it.

Andrew: Thank you, Nick, for laughing. Because nobody else did.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: I did.

Andrew: Oh, you did, Laura? Didn't hear you.

Laura: Yeah, I did. I was trying to be nice to you, but, you know...

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Any other...

MuggleSpace Update

Ben: Hey.

Andrew: What?

Ben: Just quickly here. I only see 9,907 MuggleSpace members, and I already took the time to sign up. So don't let me down.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Come sign up.

Laura: Make a duplicate an account if you have to.

Andrew: I think that - well, no, no. I don't want to encourage that. [laughs]

Ben: And I am in the chat, by the way. Some people in the chat are wondering if it was me, and I am in the chat. Come get in the MuggleCast chat.

Andrew: MuggleSpace...

Ben: The MuggleCast chat. MuggleSpace chat. What's with all this Muggle? MuggleNet, MuggleSpace, MuggleCast.

Andrew: MuggleShop.

Ben: Can't handle it.

Andrew: MuggleTunes.

Ben: Oh my.

[Andrew laughs]

Andrew: I think it's a cool way of associating all of our things.

Ben: It's like a brand.

Andrew: It is a brand.

Ben: Kind of like McDonald's has the McChicken, McNuggets...

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] Right.

Ben: MuggleSpace, MuggleNuggets.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Let's do it. Let's patent Muggle. Oh, wait. Should we take some calls? Or anyone else have any thoughts about the trailer?

Laura: Let's take some calls.

Andrew: Okay, let's take some calls. The number is 1-218-20-MAGIC in the United States. In the United Kingdom, and I don't have the number. I think it's 0-208-144-0677. Hey, got it memorized already. All right, let's take the first call now. Hello, you're on MuggleCast Live.

[Call disconnects]

Ben: Not anymore.

Andrew: Oh. See? Scaredy pants. Hello, you're on MuggleCast Live.

Call: Confusing Japanese

Caller: Hello.

Andrew: Hi. What's your name?

Caller: Edith.

Andrew: Edith, how are you?

Caller: Yeah. Good, good.

Andrew: So what did you think about the trailer?

Caller: I don't know, the whole dubbing in Japanese thing was really confusing.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: I know.

Andrew: But it wasn't for you. It wasn't for us.

Caller: I know.

Andrew: We shouldn't even be talking about it.

Caller: Well, I know.

[Andrew and Edith laugh]

Andrew: Well...

Laura: I don't think the voiceover should have been in Japanese.

Caller: It was just really confusing - distracting.

Andrew: Yeah, they were kind of distracting. Laura, can you speak Japanese?

Laura: No.

Andrew: Konichiwa!

Laura: [laughs] That's pretty much it.

Andrew: Oui oui. Oh no, that's French.

Caller: That's French.

Andrew: Hey, are they going to make this a U.S. trailer, do you think, or what?

Caller: I think they should.

Andrew: Me too. [laughs] Hosts? Panelists?

Trailer is Badly Cut

Laura: If they're going to make it a better trailer, sure.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: I'm still not impressed with how that was put together.

Andrew: Nick?

Nick: Yeah, I agree with Laura. If they put it together better then definitely.

Andrew: Yeah, I noticed at the beginning, too, when Dan's talking there's a cut between two of the things he's saying. Like they didn't even try to cover that up. It's a pretty blatant cut. You know how he says like three sentences? After the first or second one there's a cut to the next thing, and he moves ever so slightly. It's hard to tell, but I noticed, and I was very upset. But yeah, it was poorly put together. [laughs] All right, Edith, well thank you for calling in!

Caller: You're welcome!

Andrew: Buh-bye!

Caller: Bye!

Call: The Ring

Andrew: There's Edith. She was displeased that the Japanese trailer was not made for us American visitors. Hello, you're on MuggleCast Live! What's your name?

Caller: Hey! My name is Ellen.

Andrew: Oh! What's up Ellen? Are you Ellen DeGeneres?

Caller: I was on last week's...

Andrew: I love your show.

Caller: Excuse me?

Andrew: Are you Ellen DeGeneres, host of the fabulous daytime talk show?

Caller: Of course.

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, wonderful!

Caller: Yeah, okay.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: What's going on?

Caller: Sure.

Laura: Denied, Andrew.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: Okay.

Andrew: What's going on, Ellen?

Caller: I have two specific things from the trailer. Do you think the 1:04 - that might be the timestamp, I'm not sure - where someone was playing with their ring on their hand, do you think that was Tom Riddle's hand?

Andrew: Hold on. I'm getting the video up. Does anyone else have the video up right now?

Caller: Okay, it's like...

Andrew: 1:04 - oh! Maybe. That's a good point. That's a really short clip at 1:04 in.

Caller: Yeah. Kind of iffy.

Andrew: But right before that in the shot, Slughorn's looking at something. Could it be he's looking at the person putting on the ring?

Caller: I don't know. Since it was in the whole Slughorn mix, I was thinking maybe it was part of his memory.

Andrew: Yeah. That'd be pretty cool.

Caller: [unintelligible] maybe.

Andrew: And it makes sense they wouldn't show it for Voldemort. Like they wouldn't show the face, just the person putting on the ring.

Call: Avoiding the PG-13 Rating

Caller: Yeah. And real quick, my question from last week - I kind of forgot it when I got on the show.

Andrew: [laughs] It's okay.

Caller: [laughs] But anyway, this - here, I have it now. Do you think that they would cut out the battle and/or the funeral to avoid the PG-13 rating?

Andrew: Oh, good point. I don't know.

Laura: Hmm.

Andrew: Laura?

Laura: I don't know that the funeral would affect the rating. I would think that Dumbledore's actual death would affect the rating more.

Andrew: Yeah. But we don't even really see his death, right?

Laura: Well, I thought they just cut the funeral.

Andrew: Oh, that's right.

Laura: I mean, if they cut his death I'd be really ticked off.

Andrew: Well, I mean, I can't imagine you see him hitting the ground. I would cry. [laughs]

Laura: Well, yeah. That scene in the book - and that's another thing I was wondering, because the scene in the book, basically it talked about how when he hit the ground, it clearly mangled his body because Harry was talking about how he was distorted and laying in an awkward position, and I'm not sure they're going to show that in the movie...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: ...considering the rating.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: So I'm kind of concerned.

Andrew: Yeah. Nick, what do you think?

Nick: If they cut the battle or the funeral scene - they're cutting the funeral scene, right?

Andrew: Yeah, and they cut the battle too.

Nick: They've cut the battle too?

Andrew: Yeah. Well, because in David Heyman's words, because it's too repetitive.

Nick: Ah, right.

Andrew: But I guess they wouldn't say they cut it to avoid the PG-13 rating because that would upset a lot of fans.

Nick: Yeah, definitely.

Ben: Except those younger than thirteen.

Andrew: What?

Ben: Nothing.

Andrew: Oh.

Ben: I said except those younger.

Ending of Movie a Mystery

Laura: So what exactly happens at the end of this movie, I'm wondering?

Andrew: Sorry, say that again.

Laura: I'm wondering what exactly is supposed to happen at the end of this movie.

Andrew: Well, didn't Eric say there was something like there was going to be shots of everyone being sad or something? Because you know that shot of Hermione when she's crying in the courtyard or whatever?

Caller: That was awkward.

Andrew: Yeah. That reminded me of the old Emma, not that one I played in the clip earlier. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's just going to be a really sad moment and everyone's just sort of hanging around crying. I don't know. [laughs]

Caller: We've seen Emma cry in every movie. She cried in Hagrid's hut in Chamber of Secrets, and then she cried when Buckbeak got killed...

Andrew: Right.

Caller: ...and now she's crying again.

Andrew: Goblet of Fire when Cedric died. But...

Caller: Yeah, seriously.

Andrew: ...who didn't cry during that? Well, she's a crybaby. What's there to say?

[Ellen laughs]

Andrew: All right! Thank you, Ellen.

Caller: Yeah. Thanks so much.

Andrew: Buh-bye!

Caller: Bye. Thank you.

Andrew: You're welcome. Glad to...

Ben Proposes to Laura

Ben: Hey, Laura.

Laura: Hmm?

Ben: Hey, Laura, I was just in the MuggleCast - MuggleSpace chat and...

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: ...people think I should marry you.

Andrew: [laughs] Aww.

Laura: Oh, you're kidding me.

Ben: And I was wondering if you were down.

Laura: No.

[Someone applauds]

Laura: Sorry. Wait, wait, wait. Didn't you already marry Jamie like...

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: ...two years ago...

Ben: Did I?

Laura: ...on the show? Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. Jamie proposed to you.

Ben: You see, I'm a polygamist.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: I'm pretty sure that's not legal here, so...

Andrew: See me...

Laura: ...sorry.

Andrew: ...on HBO's Big Love.

[Laura laughs]

Ben: We should all get married, how about that?

Andrew: All right.

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