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Micah: Because you may not have known Patrick Doyle completely improvised the Yule Ball score, this is MuggleCast Episode 170 for February 16th, 2009.
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Andrew: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show. It's our Valentines Day special!
Andrew: We don't have much planned, I'll be honest with you. There's not much. We have a Favorites segment that's all about love, but I'm sure we can work in love throughout the show in a variety of ways. Special this week, we have a very nice interview with the Goblet of Fire composer, Patrick Doyle. Matt and Micah worked this one up. Good job, guys.
Matt: Oh, thank you.
Andrew: I give you guys my love because it's Valentines Day. The day after.
Laura: Aww, that's so sweet.
Micah: I was just going to say, and I'm sure we can mention it later though, we owe a big thanks to Syracuse University for getting us that interview.
Andrew: Love to them too because it's Valentines Day!
Matt: Yes, we're spreading the love.
Andrew: Love! Love! So yeah, we got that and we got a lot of news to catch up on because it's been a few weeks but it's so good to talk to everyone again, I must say. So let's get right into the show. I'm Andrew Sims.
Eric: I'm Eric Scull.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
Matt: I'm Matt Britton.
Nick: And I'm Nick Myers.
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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum, it's been a few weeks so there's a lot of news to catch up on. What's going on?
Micah: I don't know if I'm going to remember how to even do this.
Andrew: Oh, my.
Micah: But the biggest news, of course, was on Monday. We got some high res versions of the Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince posters.
Micah: They were originally...
Matt: Yes, finally! What the f...
Laura: Not this show, Matt. Wrong show.
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Matt: Oh my...
Eric: Yeah actually, they're nice...
Eric: ...but I thought they were too blue.
Eric: So I actually took it down a notch. I took the high def images - or high res images - and I took them down a notch as far as blue, and so I have them on my desktop now and they're not - you guys see what I'm saying, looking at that?
Matt: That's funny, Eric, because I actually changed it to lavender. I think it has a better ambiance to it.
Eric: So you changed the hue?
Matt: I honestly think, yeah.
Micah: Is that for Valentines Day?
Andrew: Yes, nobody cares what colors you changed.
Matt: Okay, fine.
Andrew: I like the blue. I thought it was a nice tone. It's dark tone.
Matt: Isn't the - oh I guess not, that's green...
Laura: Aren't they always blue?
Matt: ...for Half-Blood Prince.
Andrew: Yeah, they...
Laura: Don't they usually have a blue cast to them?
Matt: Didn't the posters kind of remind you - they had kind of like a Goblet of Fire resemblance? Like the Goblet of Fire posters?
Andrew: Sort of. Well, it's rainy.
Laura: Well, yeah, in the fact that they had more of an epic look to them. Yeah, I would agree.
Eric: Is that rain or is that snow?
Andrew: Maybe it's snow.
Matt: Well, they're probably still on that little island in the middle of the ocean.
Eric: Oh, right, with mist.
Matt: In front of the cave. Mist, yeah, that's it. It's mist.
Micah: I thought it was going to be the Astronomy Tower, but I don't know if it was raining then.
Matt: And the mist was just air bubbles and then falling down.
Andrew: It shouldn't have been raining.
Micah: I don't know, you know how they like to change things, Warner Brothers.
Eric: It's true.
Matt: Yeah, Harry could die in it too.
Eric: He could.
Matt: Falling down there with Dumbledore.
Andrew: There's - a lot of people are wondering what's up with Dumbledore's hand, why he doesn't - why his hand isn't all battered up like it's supposed to be.
Matt: Yeah, that's kind of weird.
Micah: Because it's only PG.
Micah: They can't make his hand look any scarier.
Andrew: No, well, that is going to be in the movie, it's not like - I was thinking maybe it's just because they don't want to confuse people who are just looking at the posters being like, "Oh, why is his hand all messed up?" It doesn't really make sense in the context of the poster.
Laura: I would think that would be a point of interest if they did that, like...
Eric: I'm not...
Matt: Yeah. Yeah.
Laura: Like, "Oh my God, why is his hand all screwed up?" I don't know, I think that would attract people.
Eric: I'm not entirely sure they didn't do that. If you look at - I guess it's his left hand - the finger closest towards him is pure black and the other finger...
Eric: ...kind of looks cut off. It's darker than his other - you know what I'm saying? I think - I don't remember...
Andrew: Well, you're right.
Eric: ...what it looked like.
Andrew: You're right.
Eric: Or if I even saw what it looked like completed. But maybe they only have like half his hand and then it spreads to his whole hand down to his palm. I don't know. It looks blacker than it should, his hand, in parts.
Matt: What do you guys think about this, them having them each have HP and...
Eric: I didn't like that.
Matt: ...the number of the book...
Laura: I thought that was really cheesy.
Matt: ...on the poster?
Matt: I thought it was really cheesy too, them trying to adjust the whole lightning bolt thing into a 6.
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]
Matt: I thought that was kind of lame. That's what made me think, "Is this actually real? Is this a real poster?"
Andrew: Yeah, it does look fake. And they seems like they're really emphasizing that whole, "Once again I ask too much of you, Harry."
Andrew: Because that's been the trailers and now it's on the poster.
Laura: Yeah, but don't they always have that one line? Every - like last time it was, "You'll lose everything."
Matt: "Everything is going to change," or...
Matt: "Everything changes."
Andrew: I do love how Dumbledore is in Harry's glasses.
Laura: Yeah, that is awesome.
Matt: That's pretty awesome. It kind of would have been a little better if they didn't have the same poster in it.
Micah: See, that's what made me think about the Astronomy Tower, was the fact that he's seeing Dumbledore in his glasses and it kind of looks like he's dying or in the process of getting hit with something.
Andrew: But these posters are never shots from the movie, you know? They're just promotional poses.
Nick: Yeah. That could explain how they missed the black hand off, if it's an aftershot. They haven't made his hand up and everything.
Andrew: Yeah, these are just promos more than anything.
Andrew: Harry's got really blue lips in this, though! [laughs]
Laura: It's hypothermia.
Andrew: I didn't notice that.
Andrew: Yeah, so they're cool posters. And it's about time, because that was one of those things - before the delay happened, people were really wondering where the hell the posters were.
Matt: Well, here they are.
Micah: I have one question though about Harry's poster. With...
Andrew: What he's wearing?
Micah: No, his arm. Isn't his arm reflected in his own jacket? Or is that something else, if you look at it.
Matt: Oh, I see what you're talking about. I think it's just the ruffling of the cloth.
Micah: Because it almost looks like it's a reflection of something else, kind of similar to how Dumbledore was reflected in his glasses.
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, it does look weird. I think it's just the combination of the lighting and like the angle.
Eric: Oh! Weird!
Andrew: More so the lighting because you see some light hitting the back of Harry's right hand and then I think that light is going over his hand and onto his shirt.
Eric: No, it's actually the special effects guy, Lenny.
Eric: Honestly. An oversight like that.
Matt: Lenny is a very skilled CGI Photoshop man. He would not go – he would not miss something like that.
Nick: I can't see his scar, either.
Eric: No surprise there, though!
Andrew: Yeah, no scar. And his eyes aren't green. Wah!
Matt: You can see the scar a little bit, can't you?
Matt: Or maybe that's just his hair. Okay, well, he - Dumbledore doesn't have glasses!
Laura: Yeah, but that's not central to the plot.
Eric: He does actually - actually, you know what? Actually that's interesting you say that, because in the movie he does have the glasses.
Matt: That's right. Harry has blue eyes, I forgot.
Eric: That's the thing. This is the first movie, that I noticed, that Michael Gamdon wore the Dumbledore glasses. And...
Andrew: Yeah, no, it is. I think he kind of looks weaker without the glasses on, and this is sort of an epic but - maybe not weaker but older.
Eric: Well, especially if he has them on most of the movie and takes them off.
Andrew: Yeah, plus wouldn't it look kind of silly if Harry's glasses showed Dumbledore and Dumbledore's wearing glasses, maybe?
Andrew: I don't know. Someone in the comments was saying Dumbledore looks like Santa in this picture. I kind of agree.
Andrew: What else is going on, Micah?
Micah: Well, earlier this week the New York Times reported that there is going to be a little bit of a preview of Half-Blood Prince at the Oscars on February 22nd, and from the article it seems like it's going to come at the end of the show. Is that right?
Andrew: Yeah, I think so. It's going to be - they're going to be hyping it up throughout the Oscars. Because they're really hyping up a different - a new Oscars this year. It's going to be different from the other ones. So I - a lot of people are wondering if this is going to be a new clip or not, but I think it will be. I don't see why they would play something that we've already seen.
Matt: That would be lame if they didn't.
Andrew: Yeah, for something as epic as the Oscars, I don't...
Eric: It's true.
Matt: It's - well, they were saying they were going to show trailers from - like debut trailers and footage that no one - from movies that people haven't even heard about yet, too. So, I mean, it would just be stupid if Warner Brothers just chucked out this trailer that they've been showing like a million times already.
Micah: And they're not the only ones that are doing this sneak peek into Half-Blood Prince. The day before, MTV is actually going to be doing one, and, Andrew, you guys are going to be involved in that, aren't you?
Andrew: Well, sort of. Yeah. On February 21st there is going to be a showing of MTV Spoilers; it's this new show they're doing. And they just announced today - we're recording Friday - that they are going to have - be playing clips from upcoming WB films, including Half-Blood Prince. And turns out, Matt and I actually got some tickets to this screening because it's a Watchmen screening.
Matt: It's a Watchmen screening!
Andrew: But we don't know if they're actually going to play these other clips at the screening that we're going to. They may just add them later, but we have no idea which way they're going to be doing it.
Matt: Well, are they going to be - they could just be showing it when they release it on TV.
Andrew: Right, that's what I'm saying.
Andrew: Yeah. So we don't know whether we're going to be seeing - we are going to be seeing them or not, because this taping happens on this upcoming Wednesday, the 18th. I think it's the 18th. Yeah, it is.
Andrew: And then the show will be out that following - that upcoming - this upcoming Saturday. It'll be cool, you know? WB is obviously trying to get a lot of promotional stuff out with Half-Blood Prince now.
Micah: All right, well moving on, timely with Valentine's Day, there is a little bit of news with the upcoming Deathly Hallows film. Both Emma Watson and Rupert Grint have confessed that they are a little bit nervous about a kissing scene that's coming up in the seventh film.
Andrew: Aww. I think this is so funny that they're both like "Oh I'm so afraid to kiss the other."
Matt: You know secretly they really want it.
Andrew: Yeah, they're so excited.
Matt: As soon as their cue goes up, they're going to be...
Eric: She's going to pin him to the wall.
Matt: Yeah. She's going to throw him.
Andrew: I hope it gets crazy.
Andrew: It's going to get crazy in theaters when people are watching this.
Laura: Oh my - yeah, can you imagine?
Matt: I can just imagine them really hyping it up too in the movie. Just all this romantic music being played as soon as they start kissing.
Andrew: They should, they deserve it.
Micah: I'm going to bring cotton balls to put in my ears because of all the screeching that's going to be going on.
Matt: Cotton balls ain't going to work.
Andrew: Well, you're going to have to stick some cotton balls in my mouth because I will be screaming too.
Matt: Or drooling.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Laura: Are you a Rupert Grint fan, Andrew?
Andrew: Well, it's so funny because - what?
Laura: Are you a Rupert Grint fan?
Andrew: No, and - yes. I guess the joke would have been funnier if I had said yes.
Laura: Yeah. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah, I am. I really do like him. But it's so funny, just the way they're both like - because Emma is like [in a high voice] "Well, I've never had to do it before so I can't say I have any techniques. I've never had to kiss anyone on screen so it's all new to me." And then Rupert's like [in a stoner voice] "I've known Emma for so long..."
Andrew: ..."I reckon it will be ten times worse. I really love the seventh book but there's no way it'll be tame with the Hermione stuff."
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: Because he sounds like a stoner, apparently?
Micah: Oh come on, it's not like he hasn't thought about it before. I guarantee you he's thought about it a number of times.
Matt: Just watch. After this film they're going to be coming down the red carpet as a couple.
Andrew: But you guys know this is going to be like the big press thing.
Laura: Oh yeah.
Andrew: Like whenever they get interviewed: "What was it like kissing Rupert for the first time?" "Oh it was okay. I mean after the first..." And then there's going to be the tabloids that say they did it fifty times.
Andrew: And then they ended up liking it. Or there will be tabloid stories about how the kiss went on longer than it was supposed to. Maybe they actually are in love.
Eric: Actually, didn't...
Micah: All of a sudden it got darker. It got darker with each passing kiss.
Laura: So much darker.
Eric: Didn't Emma say something about Dan had told her that the kissing - that they do ten, fifteen takes and it gets boring after a while?
Eric: Did you guys read that quote? It was hilarious.
Andrew: Yeah. I mean, that's how I usually feel too. Not acting kissing, like real kissing.
Eric: What, after ten, fifteen times it's just not worth doing anymore?
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, no.
Laura: That's really sad.
Andrew: I kiss other things...
Eric: I feel bad for your significant other.
Matt: He kissed a girl and he liked it.
Andrew: For the first five times, then I got bored.
Andrew: What else, Micah?
Andrew: Kissing, love!
Andrew: It's Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day Show! What else?
Micah: Yeah, we're going to move to something a little bit more serious, but we didn't have a chance to talk about this since our last episode. I think it happened shortly after.
Micah: One of the stuntmen was injured on the Deathly Hallows set a couple of weeks ago. He was performing an aerial stunt when he fell down to the ground, and both Dan Radcliffe and Tom Felton went to visit him in the hospital the other day. We don't really know much about his condition, right? I hadn't seen a whole lot released...
Micah: ...just that he is in stable condition. But we don't know the extent of his injuries right now.
Andrew: Yeah. I think the only good news is that he's not in really bad critical condition. But, yeah, he's still in the hospital, and it was nice seeing that Dan and Tom both went to check up on him.
Andrew: And obviously he's had a lot of support from the fans. But it just sucks. I mean, that's the first week of test filming, and then all of a sudden this happens. And it's the last film; this guy's been there forever.
Micah: Yeah, he's relatively young, obviously, he's – what was he, twenty-five?
Andrew: It's a shame...
Micah: It's very sad.
Andrew: ...and it must really get them down, because they must be really excited to start. But...
Micah: Right. One question I had out of this was what scene do you think – it said it was an aerial stunt.
Andrew: Yeah, and there was fire, was it, or a blast, some sort of explosion...
Micah: So maybe the Seven Potters...
Nick: Seven Potters, yeah...
Micah: When they were escaping?
Eric: Could be anything.
Matt: Yeah, it really could be anything. I mean, there's just so many scenes in this book.
Micah: But hopefully he recovers and gets well soon.
Andrew: What else?
Micah: I'll stay with Deathly Hallows. Recent news. Actually today, the day we're recording, a little bit of casting. Steffan Rhodri - I hope that's how you say his name - was cast as Reg Cattermole. And he said that...
Micah: ...he'll begin filming in the fall. So we're getting some news slowly, but I think we'll start to hear more leak out in the next couple of weeks.
Andrew: Yeah. Keyword there is "leak," because, I mean, this was an interview. I think WB sort of just expects these actors are going to say something in an interview. Because this guy, Steffan, only did this for some play he was going to be in.
Andrew: He looks like a good guy to fit the part. He's – Reg Cattermole is that guy in the Ministry of Magic who takes the Puking Pastilles.
Andrew: So that should be funny if that's in there.
Eric: Yeah. Well isn't he also - isn't he the guy who gets impersonated by one of the trio? In the...
Nick: Yeah, Ron.
Eric: Yeah, yeah.
Andrew: Right. Yeah, because they have the Puking – he takes the Puking Pastilles first, right? So he's not there.
Matt: Yeah, and isn't his wife the one that...
Matt: ...Harry goes to save?
Eric: But - so that looks like the whole Ministry scene is in.
Andrew: Yeah. So that's cool. So actually that is kind of big news, so we know that's in there.
Eric: It's exciting.
Nick: Gives us an idea of where they're cutting the film in half, as well. We're getting at least Chapter 14 in the first film.
Eric: Right, yeah. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh my God, is that Chapter 14?
Micah: Well, that also makes me wonder if - oh, I'm going to forget her name now, too - Professor Umbridge is going to be back.
Laura: Oh, Imelda Staunton?
Nick: Oh, yeah.
Andrew: I hope so.
Matt: I hope so!
Andrew: And anything else, Micah?
Micah: Yep, one last piece of news. J.K. Rowling, back on February 3rd, was inducted into France's Legion of Honor, and she was bestowed the title of Knight by President Nicolas Sarkozy.
Andrew: Ooh la la.
Micah: So she just keeps racking them up. I mean, one after the other.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Micah: She's got a lot of things she can be proud of, that's for sure.
Matt: Jo's busy.
Micah: Aside from the series, all these awards she's received.
Andrew: Yeah, and her entire acceptance speech was in French too. That was kind of cool.
Laura: Yeah, that was really impressive.
Nick: She did it so well.
Eric: Yeah. Well she taught French, hadn't she, in Portugal?
Micah: That just shows you it's somebody who has respect for where she's going and who she's talking to, that she actually gave the speech in their language.
Eric: It's just a cool thing to do.
Andrew: Yeah, that couldn't have been easy, too. I mean, that must take some preparation to make sure you get everything right. Pronounce everything right. So, good for her. And there's a great picture – a few great pictures of her accepting the Legion of Honor.
Andrew: That was really cool stuff. Anything else, Micah?
Micah: I don't have anything else. Eric, did you have something you wanted to mention?
Eric: Yeah, you heard what happened in Edinburgh too, speaking of J.K.R. getting honored.
Andrew: Oh yeah.
Eric: She was able to – her handprints were put in the City Chambers in Edinburgh, Scotland, next to - in Renkin's.
Andrew: That's sweet.
Eric: That's pretty special.
Andrew: And I love that picture of her handprints getting traced. She looks a little nervous. [laughs] Maybe it's just me, but I don't know. It was a cute picture. I really want to go visit that now. That's got to be sweet. That's got to be a really nice area too, the city chambers.
Eric: We'll go there and then we'll swing by the Balmora Hotel and check out the bust there...
Eric: Yeah, road trip!
Andrew: There you go!
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