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Show Intro

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["Go Your Own Way" by Fleetwood Mac plays]

["Innuendo" by Queen begins]

Andrew: Because it's time for the new trailer, this is MuggleCast Episode 173 for today.

[Music continues]

[Show music begins]

Andrew: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It's Thursday. It's April 16th, 2009. Good evening, Matt.

Matt: Hey.

Andrew: Hey, Mikey.

Mikey: Hey, buddy.

Andrew: What's going on, Mikey B? I haven't seen you in a while, Mikey B!

Mikey: I know. I haven't been around for a while, have I?

Andrew: I know. I miss you in your Kentuckyland.

Mikey: Oh, I know, I know. It's far away from California.

[Andrew laughs]

Mikey: Very different out here, very different.

Andrew: Yes, it is.

Matt: I bet.

Andrew: And Micah Tannenbaum is here too. [puts on a deep voice] Good evening, Micah.

Micah: Good evening, Andrew.

Andrew: Good evening. Also, Laura Thompson will be joining us later this evening. She's running a little late, but that's okay. We have a great show today because the final trailer for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was relieved - released.

Matt: Relieved, yes.

Andrew: Released. Sorry, guys, I'm nervous. What do you guys think? I mean, in a way I'm a little sad it's the last trailer.

Mikey: Ooh.

[Andrew laughs]

Mikey: I got chills.

Andrew: I did too. I got chills just, you know...

Matt: Just chillin'.

Andrew: This trailer is fantastic, and it's very fitting that the last trailer is the best one yet. Do you guys agree?

Mikey: Yeah. No, I totally agree.

Matt: I mean, it's always kind of cliché to say that the latest trailer is the best...

Andrew: Is the best one, yeah. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: But if you think where we started. Where it was just a couple of scenes with Voldemort - Dumbledore explaining young Tom Riddle and it's turned into this giant epic - a lot of wand work in this trailer I noticed...

Matt: Yeah, finally.

Andrew: particular.

Mikey: Oh yeah.

Andrew: But let's go around the table with our initial reactions and then we're going to start picking apart some of the scenes that we saw. So are we all in agreement that it's the best trailer yet? And I'm going to make a poll on UStream right now. There are 1,131 people listening to us this evening.

Matt: Oh my God.

Andrew: Good evening, guys.

Matt: That's a lot.

Mikey: Wow. Hi, everybody.

Andrew: [in a funny voice] Hi, everybody. Yeah, so it's a big audience tonight and we thank everyone for staying up late, but what are we going to do? 9 P.M. trailer.

Matt: Yeah. At least everybody's off work and school.

Andrew: So Mikey, what do you think?

Best Trailer Yet?

Andrew: Best trailer yet? What really stood out for you? What's the deal?

Mikey: Oh wow! Honestly, I really feel that this is the best trailer yet for Half-Blood Prince. I honestly - like I said, "Ooh, chills", I really did get chills like watching it. I just got so excited.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Like really, really excited.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: You know what I think is the best for me right now?

Andrew: What's that?

Mikey: Is Quidditch. I've missed Quidditch.

Andrew: Yeah and there's that...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...and we'll get into this in a little bit but there's that huge - you see the wide shot of the Quidditch field and it looks better than ever.

Mikey: Oh yeah!

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: It looks amazing.

Andrew: Yeah, high tech stuff.

Matt: I mean, we really never get to see it like empty and...

Andrew: Right, that was cool. Although I wonder why it was an empty shot.

Matt: It was probably just him by himself. Probably getting there early for tryouts.

Andrew: Oh maybe. Micah, what did you think about it? What was your initial reaction? What are you thinking about it now?

Micah: Well it's definitely better than that Japanese trailer. That's for sure.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I agree. Yeah, it was the best trailer to date. I think everything was finally put together in a way where in the other trailers, things were kind of scrambled about. I think this was finally you got a full picture for what Half-Blood Prince is all about.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: And I really liked the scenes with Snape and Draco in particular.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Those were really good too.

Andrew: And Matt?

Matt: I mean, I agree with everybody. I think it was the best trailer for Half-Blood Prince so far. Ever, now since it's the last one.

Andrew: Ever, yeah.

Matt: Yeah, yeah. I just feel it was very even. You know? Like all the other trailers...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...seem to have their own kind of theme? But this one kind of like just grasped the entire film's story and it was just very good. My favorite part - I got chills when I saw Katie Bell...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...just get thrown up in the air and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Oh my God. Such a great scene in the book...

Andrew: We'll...

Matt: ...and it looks really good.

Andrew: We'll talk about that more too. I don't know what to think about that. I don't know yet. But we've got time codes all laid out. We came prepared this time with time codes because every time we do a trailer show everyone's like, "Uh what time is this scene?" and nobody knows, so now we got the...

Matt: Time stamps.

Dumbledore: How's This Tempo?

Andrew: ...numbers all set thanks to Matt and Micah. So let's start with 25 seconds in and I'll show you guys on the UStream as we're going through. There's these extended cave scenes. We have the wide shot of Dumbledore...

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: ...and the ring of fire. And this is first time we're hearing him say something, right?

Matt: Yeah, it's the first time we get to hear him conjure the spell for the ring of fire.

Andrew: Yeah. What was he saying?

Matt: I don't know. It almost sounded like - one of the words sounded like 'temple'.

Andrew: Oh wait, I have the clip.

Matt: Oh! You do, that's right.

Andrew: Here we go.

["Innuendo" plays briefly]

Andrew: Oh and the sound's still playing on that channel. Boom. Okay, here we go. Here was the clip of...

[Clip from the trailer plays - Dumbledore yells inaudibly]

Andrew: I think he said, "Haji hav vash!" Let's listen again.

[Same clip plays]

Andrew: Yeah. I think I was right.

Matt: I think he said, "How's this...tempo?"

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Wait. Hold on let's see if we hear that.

[Same clip plays]

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: It sounds like, "How's this temple?" or something.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: One more time and then we'll move on.

[Same clip plays]

Andrew: I don't know. [laughs]

Matt: How's this...temple?

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Tom? [laughs]

Mikey: Wow. [laughs]

Matt: He didn't really say that though.

Andrew: We're going to need the closed caption version of that.

Matt: Definitely.

Andrew: Or we can just have a caption contest or something. Then what else did we see here? A closer look at the Inferi and that was at 1:40. Sorry guys, I told you guys I was going to bring it up on the screen and I will.

Trailer: Inferi

Matt: Yeah. So if you've got the trailer up go to time code - what was it, 2:40?

Andrew: 1:40.

Matt: 1:40. Okay go to 1:40.

Mikey: Yeah.

Matt: Just an up-close look at the Inferi.

Micah: Ugly looking things.

Matt: I know, you would think that they'd be really cute and everything, but no.

Mikey: Reminds me of Golum a little bit...

Matt and Micah: Yeah.

Mikey: ...coming out of the water.

Matt: [as Golum] My precious.

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: So yeah, well they look at - oh, it was at 1:40, correct?

Mikey: Yes.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: Yes.

Mikey: 1:42.

Andrew: They kind of look like Dementors a little bit, don't they? Because it's just like the colors, the blackish gray.

Matt: Yeah, you would think it would be the Dementors when they take off their cloaks.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah naked Dementors. No, but they look sort of - I don't know. Like if you saw Dementors flying...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...that's what they would look like.

Matt: They just look like dead bodies that are brought up to life.

Andrew: Right, right. Actually they kind of look like wolves. Yeah, so that's pretty cool.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And then what do we have next on the list, Matt?

Trailer: The Unbreakable Vow

Matt: Next on the list we have the Unbreakable Vow. And that's at time code 27 seconds into the trailer.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: And basically what we're seeing is what the film version of what the Unbreakable Vow is. It's just like an intertwining - like I would say just a little wisp of light just - tying itself around both Snape and Mrs. Malfoy.

Andrew: Yeah, check that out. What do you guys think of that? 27 seconds.

Mikey: It looks like what was described kind of in the book. A little string kind of wrapping the hands together.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mikey: It's kind of what I expected too, but it's kind of nice seeing it.

Andrew: Yeah. Exactly.

Matt: It's a very subtle thing that they did, too.

Andrew: And for some reason in the books, I never pictured - every time it was said in the books it didn't describe that, did it? Or maybe it did, I'm just forgetting.

Matt: I, remember it kind of being a little more theatrical. Like it kind of just sprang out and something.

Andrew: Well we only see like three frames of it....

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: So...

Matt: Maybe it was the beginning of it.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Well this is could be the end like after it binds the hands together...

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: ...where it's like, it springs out of the person that - the wand that actually officiates the Unbreakable Vow.

Matt: Yeah, I can see that too.

Mikey: But like, it can be like, it might even be like, dissipating, where it might've even been more intense and it's just kind of fading away.

Matt: Yeah, I think I agree with you, Mikey. I think that could be the ending shot of that scene then it transitions to something else.

Andrew: Yeah. Or it'd be cool if it was like, "All right, we're all set." Or it does something cool like that.

Matt: Or they just shake off their hands? "Ew, it's still on me."

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, "Ew, get it off me."

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Mikey: Wow.

Trailer: Quidditch

Andrew: Then of course, the wide shot of the Quidditch Pitch. But we talked about this before.

Matt: Yeah, but you know, it's really not - in HD you see like everything around it too...

Andrew: Oh yeah.

Matt: see the water fall in the background. It just puts...

Mikey: Oh yeah.

Matt: all together. It's really nice.

Mikey: I have the nice 1080p version on my screen right now and I'm looking at it. It just looks beautiful.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: You know what, Mikey? I have the 1080p too.

Andrew: I have 1080p too.

Mikey: [laughs] High five! Yes. No but honestly, but like that waterfall in the background - like who knew there was a waterfall right there by the Quidditch Pitch?

Matt: Yeah, well it's in Goblet of Fire.

Mikey: Is it the same one that's in there? I don't...

Matt: It has to be. It looks the same.

Andrew: Well that's - and I mean, it's really changed in the books. Although - no, it's just missing the...

Matt: Yeah, just the banners and things

Andrew: The covers. Yeah.

Matt: It looks really - I really love how they took it apart.

Mikey: Yeah.

Matt: But if you see, you still see people in the stands. At like three or four seconds into the trailer.

Mikey: Yeah, on the left hand side.

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: Like...

Matt: It has to be for tryouts. For the Keeper.

Andrew: Yeah, probably. But that's, that's a pretty cool effect.

Matt: Yeah, it's really nice.

Andrew: And yeah, like Mikey said, I couldn't help but gasp when I saw it.

Matt: Mhm.

Mikey: I like Quidditch. I was a little excited when I saw that.

Matt: I miss it. Yeah.

Andrew: It's pretty eerie. Cool effect. And I was going to ask how it's changed over the films - [yawns] excuse me - but then I realized, oh they just took the thingies off, so it pretty much looks the same.

Matt: Mhm, looks more plain.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: But, it looks nice. It looks good.

Andrew: Yeah. Then we have a lot of stuff to get through. We have some Harry/Ginny moments.

Mikey: Well actually...

Matt: Yes.

Mikey: ...hold on one second. Back to the Quidditch.

Andrew: Yeah?

Mikey: If you go to 1:35, you actually see a scene of the Quidditch again. They have all the things back on it.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh really?

Mikey: So the previous shot has to be just during practice or tryouts or something.

Andrew and Matt: Yeah.

Matt: It has to be tryouts.

Andrew: I think I was talking about it in a previous episode, that I was hoping they were going to really enhance Quidditch...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...because they've had all this time to - technology wise - they've had all this time to develop the technology and make Quidditch look more realistic than ever.

Matt: And it really does. Since we're on Quidditch, and I don't think we were planning on talking about this from what I'm seeing, but the clip - or the still shot that we put up earlier this morning is in the trailer and we get to see Luna and right next to Hermione and the Parvati twins and Lavender Brown, just cheering on.

Andrew: And Matt Lewis.

Matt: Yeah! And Matt Lewis too. Yep, cheering on Gryffindor with a big s...

Mikey: I like the hat she's wearing. Yeah, what is that? A lion?

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, that's her lion hat.

[Mikey laughs]

Matt: Yeah that's kind of...

Matt: What is that really?

Andrew: Evanna Lynch made that too herself - the hat.

Matt: I'm really excited to see what it looks like animated...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...when they use all the CGI.

Andrew: I'm really excited to see Quidditch and now you know, and now we got - can you imagine Mikey when this comes out on blu-ray? Blu-ray Quidditch? I mean, that's like unreal. I can't even imagine.

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Mikey: Thanks, really.

Andrew: No, yeah, seriously.

Mikey: No, I'm really excited. Like, honestly this trailer, like I said, gave me chills. And it really ties everything together.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Like all different stories.

Andrew: Micah?

Micah: Yeah, I agree.

Andrew: Oh.

[Matt laughs]

Micah: I'm just listening. You guys have been having such a great discussion that...

Andrew: Oh, well thank you. All right, we'll see you later, Micah.

Micah: All right, take care.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Harry and Ginny

Andrew: Okay, so anyway, the Harry/Ginny moments.

Matt: Yeah, it was only for a quick second, but it - I felt like we need to talk about this to say what our thoughts were. Because, to me it felt a little like out of place. Like something that Harry and Ginny wouldn't do. I know Ginny would not say, "Take my hand, and we're going to look at this tapestry on the wall..."

Andrew: Why do you think it was out of place, Micah?

Matt: It - oh, sorry. Micah.

Micah: It just didn't fit into the rest of the trailer, I don't think. It was - I agree with Matt, the only way to describe it is out of place. It just didn't flow well with the rest of the trailer.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Isn't there a song, like, [sings] "Take my hand, and we'll..." Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Micah: I'm sure there's a lot of them.

Matt: There's like a million songs. Yeah, you narrowed it down.

Andrew: No, but I thought, I don't know, a popular song. I don't know.

Matt: Like The Beatles songs?

Mikey: "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"?

Andrew: [sings] "I wanna hold your..." Yeah, yeah, something like that.

Mikey: Something like that. You know, The Beatles.

Andrew: That'd be nice if they had that...

Mikey: The only way that this - the Ginny-Harry scene right here - really fits in to trailer is like the beginning dialogue when Dumbledore says "it brings people closer together"

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: And it kinda like introduces them together, because they haven't been together in earlier movies...

Matt: Well, if it were more literal, it would put - it would be like - oh, Laura's calling me.

Andrew: Don't answer.

Mikey: Hi Laura!

Matt: Do you want me to answer?

Andrew: No.

Matt: Oh. Ok. Eh, sorry Laura.

Andrew: We don't have that technology.

Matt: We don't have that - okay. Anyway - what was I talking about?

Andrew: Harry and Ginny.

Matt: Yeah, when Ginny comes in for the kill for the kiss. That would be more closer together if you want to put it in the literal sense.

Andrew: Yeah. But people like seeing that stuff, I mean, no matter what you're going to get the - I guess mostly girls excited about that.

Matt: Yeah.

Trailer: Hermione Gets Violent

Andrew: But, yeah. And then we have - this was funny - and they had special music for it too, starting at 44 seconds, Hermione hitting Harry with the book over the head.

Mikey: Oh yeah!

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: On the beat! That was amazing.

Matt: That was great.

Andrew: Yeah, that was funny.

Matt: Oh, I was so excited to see that. I just love it when people beat up Ron. I don't know why. Maybe it just must be something...

Andrew: Yeah. But isn't it funny, like every trailer, there's always someone beating somebody? And I think back to, like, Snape hitting Harry and Ron over the head with the pieces of paper...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] I mean, it's funny stuff, but...

Matt: Yeah. I thought it was funny.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: But is Hermione really supposed to hit Ron, until Deathly Hallows?

Mikey: Yeah...

Andrew: [laughing] Where does this come from, though? Because, like, Hermione's staring at Ron, and Ron's just sitting there chewing his food, and then out of nowhere Hermione just starts, as someone said in the chat, spanking him. [laughs]

[Matt and Mikey laugh]

Micah: Well, I don't know about that, but...

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: He probably said something inappropriate.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Yeah, cause it cuts completely different angles, like a 180.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: You know, see it's like, you see she's, like, angry, so he had to have said something, but...

Andrew: Yeah. It's going to be a funny moment, too, because Ron is just sitting there chewing his food.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Here, I'm going to play the music real quick.

[Sound clip of music from trailer where Hermione hits Ron]

Andrew: [laughs] It's such a Disney thing, too.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: You know, when they go, like, floating up into the air or something.

Mikey: I really liked that it's on the beat. It really made me happy to see that.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Matt: Yeah.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: And they've always done a good job of that, I thought, in the Harry Potter trailers, where they really put the video to the music.

Matt: Yeah. It just makes it more sync.

Andrew: Yeah, and the sound effects, keep them in sync, right. Uh, what's next?

Matt: Okay, um - my browser froze. So...

Trailer: The Dark Mark

Andrew: Oh. Well there's a wide shot of the Dark Mark forming over Hogwarts at 50 seconds in...

Matt: Mhm. We saw a lot of the Dark Mark in this trailer.

Andrew: Yeah, we did.

Mikey: Yeah, we did.

Andrew: It's quite... Yeah, so you see it forming, but you don't actually... I mean, you sort of see it. But...

Matt: Yeah. "This movie's really dark, so we're gonna add more Dark Marks."

Andrew: But doesn't Hogwarts look great in that shot?

Matt: Yeah, it does.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Everyone look at it. Here, I'm showing the UStream guys, I mean, Hogwarts just... Ahhh. So good.

Matt: Can I have a time code, please?

Andrew: [in deep geek-techie voice] Uh, time code is 51 seconds.

Matt: Oh, thank you.

Andrew: It sort of looks like it's - it doesn't totally look like the Dark Mark logo, but...

Matt: It looks a lot bigger. Hogwarts, the grounds, just look, just more...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: You know, fuller, and deeper.

Andrew: It may be the angle, the lower angle, the worm's-eye view...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Right, Mikey?

Mikey: Yeah. [laughs] Little worm's-eye view, exactly.

Matt: It's just - I honestly...

Mikey: It's a perspective thing.

Matt: Yeah, I honestly don't remember seeing that many castle tops, from the previous films.

Andrew: No. Well, they never match, you know, they re-design it every time.

Matt: Mhm. You can still see the Astronomy Tower, though.

Andrew: Yes, you do.

Mikey: Yeah.

Matt: Mm. You see anything falling off it yet?

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Andrew: Someone should Photoshop this, and have Snape just going off - er, sorry, Dumbledore, just - [makind sound effect of falling and landing] Wheeeeeeeeee - ppftt.

[Matt and Mikey laugh]

Matt: That's not - that's...

Mikey: Wow, that is so sad.

Matt: That's so inappropriate.

Mikey: That is really inappropriate.

Andrew: Can somebody do that?

Matt: No!

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: All right.

Andrew: Well, as I was saying on the last show, it really freaked me out when I actually saw how far of a drop it actually is for Dumbledore, and that's when I started feeling really bad for him.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Okay...

Matt: Okay. Next?

Andrew: And the next part is...

Trailer: Death Eater Attacks

Andrew: And then the next part is the expansion of the Death Eater attacks, and this was with the voice over. This was really cool, how they set this up I thought. Because - whose doing the voice over? Does anyone know? Was it like Arthur or something?

Matt: Oh - what was it that he said?

Andrew: The attacks. Here - I'll - I'll play it.

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: Boom. Boom.

[Andrew plays a clip from the trailer]

Andrew: Yeah, so...

Matt: Yeah that's - that's the announcer that's for every single Harry Potter trailer.

Andrew: Right.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Sorry. No...

Micah: Whose name maybe Arthur, but I doubt it.

Andrew: Yeah.

[Matt and Mikey laugh]

Andrew: My name is Arthur.

Mikey: Arthur.

Andrew: People will die. No but it - I thought this was really good and you guys - tell me what you think. It - it sets it up for people not as into Harry Potter because I think people - some people may be more interested if they see this and they're like, "Oh, wow. This involves our world."

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: "So I'm actually interested to see what happens to it." Thoughts?

Mikey: Yeah. I agree. When I saw it, it was kind of surreal because we really haven't seen - we have seen Harry in the first one in London and stuff like that. But we haven't seen like interaction with a lot of outside people. [unintelligible]

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: And this right here just kind of see the fly through, the city and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: was really kind of surreal. It made me think of all the other British TV shows and movies I've seen because you see the double decker bus, and everything like that. That's not the Knight Bus, it's an actual...

Andrew: Right. Double.

Mikey: ...bus you see right there.

Andrew: The London thing, yeah.

Mikey: Yeah and you're like, "Wow, that's kind of like - in, you know?"

Andrew: It's cool.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: And then it cuts to these Muggles who are sitting in the office building and they look out the window. They look awfully - oh god I just found a really funny frame. At 1:05 - I'm going to zoom in to this for the UStream visitors. These woman's eyes are just pierced. [laughs] I wish you guys could see this but there is this woman in the pink sitting off to the right and her eyes are just dead wide open. It's really funny.

Mikey: Awesome.

Andrew: Go to 1:05 and look for the woman in the pink towards the right.

Mikey: I see it.

Matt: Oh hilarious.

Andrew: She looks right at the camera too! [laughs]

Matt: I think this is a really good thing that they did. I didn't really think that they - it didn't even occur to me that they would have it from a Muggle's perspective. It's not that funny Andrew. It's just a woman looking!

Andrew: Look at the people in the chat. They're loving it!

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Andrew: If you saw this you would be laughing too, trust me. [laughs]

Mikey: I'm watching the chat Andrew. Really why - why...

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Mikey: Keep zooming in Andrew, please. Keep going back in.

Andrew: Oh, I just fast forwarded. Okay, anyway, so yeah. Go ahead Micah.

Micah: No I like how you mentioned it kind of may interest some people who weren't maybe as interested in the films to begin with because now you're bringing into quote on quote "Our world," and so maybe they will go and see the movie just to you know - it peaks their interest as to what actually happens to our world in this movie.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Or in the final two films coming up.

Matt: It's - it's not just a full fantasy movie.

Andrew: [laughs] Guys, I'm not kidding you. This will be the funniest thing you will have ever seen in your life.

[Andrew and Mikey laugh]

Mikey: Oh Andrew.

Andrew: Okay I'm going to put a thumbnail on MuggleNet or something because this is way too funny.

Matt: Okay....

Andrew: We'll keep moving on now. I'm sorry.

Matt: God.

Trailer: Millennium Bridge

Andrew: Anyway, what is the next item on our list? We have...

Micah: Millennium Bridge.

[Matt laughs]

Andrew: Oh the Millennium Bridge, yeah. We've seen it a few times. Is it any different Micah this time? Or...

Micah: Yeah I thought there were a couple of times you got a little bit closer up to the people who are on the bridge.

Andrew: Oh yeah.

Micah: There is a point where you see them walking early on in the trailer and then...

Matt: We just see more destruction too.

Micah: Yeah, you see more destruction towards the - the under the trailer with them running off.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Trying to get away. Previously we had only seen wide shots of it snapping.

Matt: Yeah. We got kind of a before photo too of the bridge with people just walking, taking pictures and things, and then...

Mikey: Yeah at 1:14...

Andrew: Go ahead.

Mikey: 1:14 on the trailer is the - it's a crane shot. It just lifts up off the bridge and I think that...

Andrew: Right.

Mikey: ...there gives a little bit more intimacy with it because you see that there is people and family and if you look at it there is a little girl holding her Mom's hand...

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: ...and then all of a sudden it's torn to shreds and they're all going to die, which is sad. [laughs]

Matt: Gee!

Andrew: Look at that 1:15 - 1:14 there is a guy with a trombone on the bridge and he is playing it.

Mikey: It's - it's a tuba.

Andrew: Tuba, whatever.

Matt: It's a tuba.

Andrew: Sorry! [laughs]

Matt: What is wrong with you Drew?

Andrew: I don't know instruments. I know drums and guitar that's it, and bass. But - I mean that's kind of random too, isn't it? [laughs]

Mikey: Hey - you can see he's got his little case out there, people you know - give him money.

Andrew: I guess he is one of those street performers, yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Mikey: He's playing the Harry Potter theme. You know?

Andrew: Yeah! That'd be awesome if he was playing the tuba.

[Mikey imitates a tuba playing the Harry Potter theme]

Trailer: Burrow on Fire

Andrew: Okay, and what else do we got here. The wide shot of the Burrow attack at 1:51. That is very cool.

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: I am getting up a shot right now. But you just see the Weasley house encircled in flames. And it is pretty cool. Anyone got thoughts on this? We have seen this before, so. Oh that's cool I don't know if we saw it last time, the, the Inferi I guess it is, they go right through the house.

Mikey: The Inferi? What are you talking about?

Andrew: Dementors. Death Eaters, sorry, uh gosh, long day sorry.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Death Eaters fly right through the house and set it on fire. That's pretty awesome.

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: Andrew, I don't think that is starting the fire, I think it more of like causing an explosion.

Andrew: Yeah, well explosion equals fire.

[Mikey laughs]

Andrew: No, really.

Mikey: They blow stuff up.

Trailer: Slughorn, Dumbledore and Harry

Andrew: Yeah that's really cool. Then we got, oh and this was nice too, Slughorn yelling at Harry and Dumbledore outside his house.

Micah: That's nice.

Andrew: Yeah that was nice. I thought it was cool. I just thought it was cool. It's this clip.

[Andrew plays Slughorn clip]

Andrew: You can hear what he is saying definitely. And that was at what, 1:10? Yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Matt: It is really mad times that they're living in.

Mikey: They're mad...

Andrew: I really like the shot. This was another shot that gave me chills; because I like seeing the adult actors work together and you don't really see it much in the movies. Here you see Dumbledore, Slughorn and Harry, and Slughorn is standing in front of the house and Slughorn is yelling at them. It is pretty good.

Matt: Mhm. Mad times.

Andrew: What magazine is Dumbledore holding?

Matt: The Mad Times.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Mad, Mad Magazine. "I needed a laugh Harry, please excuse me."

Matt: He watches Mad TV.

Andrew: [laughs] I love that singer who goes, "You're so crazy... Mad!"

Micah: He probably stole it from Slughorn's house.

Andrew: Yeah exactly.

Mikey: Which you got to know, that isn't even Slughorn's house. Dumbledore is kind of like stealing.

Matt: Right.

Mikey: He is kind of borrowing it he isn't stealing the magazine.

Micah: Doesn't he go in the bathroom at some point?

Mikey: Oh there we go, okay.

Matt: Isn't it knitting magazines or something like that?

Micah: It would be with him.

Andrew: Ohhhh. Yes so he.....

Micah: What?

Andrew: No, no, you are right. I guess that is what happened, he was reading in the bathroom and he was so interested in what the magazine had to say... "I must keep this if you don't mind."

Mikey: It is how to knit yourself a wand holder or something like that.

Trailer: Katie Bell's Necklace

Andrew: Yeah [laugh] I am sure he could have duplicated it with a spell or something. What is next? We have Katie Bell being attacked by the necklace, this is at 1:28. Now - I am not saying it's bad but shouldn't she look a little more terrified or what? I don't know but she is just like frozen with a big smile on her face, you know what I mean?

Matt: Oh wow, you know what I think is more ridiculous, and Andrew, you need to do this at 1:27 if you go frame by frame on it looks like her head kind of like moves like...

Mikey: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: Her head looks like she is being dragged by a string. She looks like a puppet sort of.

Matt: Yeah and it just looks scary.

Andrew: Yeah that is pretty eerie. I will bring it up on the chat for everyone.

Micah: PG-13 worthy.

Matt: Yeah, I think so.

Andrew: It's basically a dead body and she is pale and not looking so good. I don't get it, I don't get it.

Mikey: I think on the chat you need to go a little bit before that when shes on the ground, sliding on the ground actually.

Matt: Like she gets thrown up like a puppet.

Andrew: Like that?

Mikey: Like your sliding on the ground. Before Harry, before Harry. Look at that head just popped out of nowhere.

Matt: She's like Pinocchio. No strings attached.

Mikey: Look at that head, just pops up out of nowhere.

Andrew: She looks like she is flat. Shhhhullppp - sucked up. Pretty scary stuff.

Matt: Wow.

Trailer: Wand Salute

Andrew: A lot of this trailer isn't totally new, but that was one completely new thing. It was a pretty exciting to see as well. Next, we have the students all raising their wands in the air on Hogwarts grounds. And this came in....

Mikey: Not just students.

Andrew: And teachers, yeah, everybody. Matt who did you see?

Matt: I saw Madam Pomfrey, haven't seen her since movie 2. She's actually in this movie.

Andrew: Now, go ahead...

Mikey: What's the time code on that one?

Andrew: 1:37. Madame Pomfrey, Hagrid, Evanna - oh sorry Luna.

Matt: Luna, Nigel, and I think one of the actresses who I believe is playing the girl who - Romilda Vane.

Mikey: Where?

Andrew: On the left, far left?

Matt: Ron and Hermione are right hand side right next to Madam Pomfrey.

Andrew: Right. Isn't this kid in the right? Sorry what?

Mikey: On the bottom right hand corner I think it is the guy from the third one. My head is exploding right now.

Matt: Your head is exploding?

Mikey: From Azkaban, from Prisoner of Azkaban.

Andrew: Dean?

Matt: He's a lot thinner.

Mikey: Yeah I think it might be him.

Matt: I don't think it is him.

Mikey: I want to pretend that it is him. Oh, who - What is the line that he says in the movie?

Matt: "It is one of the darkest omens in our world."

Mikey: Yes.

Andrew: Was that really it?

Matt: Yes. "The omen of death."

Mikey: Thank you.

Matt: You're welcome.

Andrew: Right in the center we see Nigel. That's cute, kind of working him in there.

Matt: Kind of working in - no Colin though.

Andrew: No what?

Matt: No Colin.

Andrew: No Colin, no.

Matt: Yeah, so we are going to see Nigel die in the last film.

Andrew: Instead of Colin?

Matt: No it is going to happen, I swear it is going to happen.

Andrew: Maybe. I think it is cool how you see Madam Pomfrey right on the front line. Assuming that is the front line, or maybe they are in a big circle.

Matt: Yeah, it has to be the front line because Ron and Hermione are there.

Andrew: Yeah, and Hagrid, That is going to feel like so like, "Yes guys yes, do it, do it!" You know what I mean?

Matt: It's a little - they're paying tribute to their fallen headmaster.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly.

Matt: That is kind of sad. Yeah.

Trailer: Draco

Andrew: And what do we have next here. Oh the Draco story line, I have a couple of things to say about this.

Mikey: All right, well tell it brother.

Andrew: First of all the revealing, the vanishing cabinet at 52 seconds. We have seen that before and he takes the curtain off, that's cool right?

Micah: Yeah, but he picked something up too. What does he have in his hand?

Matt: I think he dropped his contact lens. That is what I think it is.

Micah: [laughs] It looks like it yeah.

Matt: Found it.

Andrew: At 52 seconds or somewhere else?

Matt: It's in the same - scene.

Mikey: Yeah it is at 57.

Matt: Yeah it is a contact lens. I didn't know he wore contacts?

Mikey: His eyes really aren't that blue.

Andrew: Viewers on UStream is this a contact lens he is picking up? Ah there it is - oh no everyone is saying it is a feather.

Matt: A feather - why does he need a feather?

Andrew: Yeah guys why does he need a feather? None of us are remembering right now. They are saying it looks like a feather. But - I don't know it looks like a contact lens to me.

Matt: He has to be holding something up. Maybe he is crying and he picked up one of his tears.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Andrew: I don't know that is pretty strange. What's next? Oh the Sectumsempra battle. That's starting at 1:47. That's a really cool shot too.

Matt: Firing off at each other. It was the Chamber of Secrets all over again.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Except no snakes.

Andrew: Go ahead, Micah.

Mikey: I was thinking that too, just like Chamber of Secrets all over again.

Matt: I was thinking that too, they were on the same sides they were on at the duel. Back in the bathroom.

Andrew: Micah, what were you going to say?

Micah: I thought it was a cop out. You see Harry saying "Sectumsempra," but it doesn't hit Draco, so they got around it by not actually having the spell hit him. Which would have definitely made the film PG-13.

Mikey: Definitely.

Andrew: It may have just been the editing of the trailer though. Don't you think?

Matt: They missed the PG-13 by just a hair.

Andrew: By just a frame.

Matt: By just a feather, because Draco picked it up.

Andrew: In all seriousness don't you think it could just be the editing? You watch the trailers and then you see the film and it is completely different.

Micah: That's true.

Matt: Yeah that's true.

Andrew: The last line I wasn't happy with. I am going to play the clip. The clip goes as follows.

[Andrew plays the Draco clip]

Andrew: It just sounds...

Micah: Whiny.

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