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Twitter Feedback


Andrew: See? I did it. Buh-bye! All right, Micah, you want to read through some of those Twitter responses? What'd we - What'd we get?

Micah: All right. Well, we asked people what their initial reactions to the trailer. Do you still think its PG? Was there too much on Snape? And - bunch of responses here. I'll read about five of them, or so. CalMCL said, "Wow, trailer was epic. Inferi were a little too Gollum-ish for my liking. I expected them to be more zombie-like." SCGameCock said - no hold on, that's irrelevant. I'm sorry.

[Andrew snickers]

Micah: I can't pronounce half these people's names. Shefalihalder said, "It was the most epic thing I have ever seen in my life."

Andrew: Nice. Yeah I definitely think it's the most epic of Harry Potter trailers. I kind of forget Order of the Phoenix and all of them, but you really feel a lot of emotion with this one.

Micah: Yeah. EmilyEC said, "Single most epic trailer ever. Music was especially astounding. Never too much Snape. Loved it."

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, well there's never too much Snape because there's hardly any to begin with. You know what I mean, it's just like - we get so little of him in the trailers.

Micah: Right.

Andrew: Not to mention the films. So...

Micah: SPG2008 says, "It should be PG-13."

Andrew: Yeah, that's - you know...

Matt: It has to.

Andrew: Don't get it.

Matt: Yeah, but we've talked about this a lot, though.

Andrew: Yeah, we're not going to call them again, so...

[Micah laughs]

Mikey: Okay.

Andrew: And was that it? All the Twitter feedback?

Micah: Well, no, there's a lot more. I'm just trying to read them here through real quick.

Matt: Mhm.

Micah: JohnK said, "Thought the trailer was great. They didn't put too much of Snape in, and the stuff they did put in didn't reveal all that much." I don't know if I agree with that, though. I think the scene where Snape was kind of kicking Harry's butt...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ..kind of revealed a little bit too much.

Matt: Yeah. I'm looking at one of the Twitter people and PoFoSho said, "They didn't actually say anything about the Half-Blood Prince book."

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: That still hasn't happened, but...

Matt: But is it really that - that mandatory that they have to say why the movie is called Half-Blood Prince in the trailer?

Mikey: No. Not really at all, actually.

Andrew: They never really emphasis - well, they did with Chamber of Secrets.

Matt: Right, but the whole movie revolves around...

Andrew: That was the central - yeah.

Matt: The Chamber of Secrets. Yeah, they don't say the Prisoner of Azkaban. This is the Prisoner of Azkaban and - but yeah, like other films, I would say like Lord of the Rings trilogy and like Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy, they didn't specify what each thing in the name was.

Andrew: Right. Well, I mean, you have - I mean like - It's funny because the very first picture that came out from this film was Harry holding the Half-Blood Prince book. So you're like, "Oh! That's cool, I guess." [laughs] Well, it really wasn't cool, but that may give the impression that they may be trying to circle the plot around the Half-Blood Prince book. Who knows? But we will see a little bit of it in the movie.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Unless they cut that.

Micah: Well I wonder how much they're going to get in terms of back story, though. Because, you know, that's where Harry really learns about Lily's connection to Snape.

Matt: Mmm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Well also, I don't think we see any shots of Harry holding any books, so I don't think the trailer really focuses on his academic career at Hogwarts that much, guys.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: No, that's right.

Mikey: So...

Andrew: Let's take one more caller and then we'll move into the news. There's a lot - what?

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: There's a lot of stuff to talk about, so...

Matt: All right.



Live Call: Voldemort


Andrew: Sorry. I was - I had my thumb on one person, and then it - whatever. Hello, Jose! You're on MuggleCast Live! Jose, Hello?

Caller: Yeah.

Andrew: Welcome to the show. Ben: Hello, hello.

Caller: Crap, I actually got in.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: Anyways, yeah, just two things. You guys were talking about it didn't have a lot of "You're the chosen one" stuff, but I think it did mention it once, and I heard Hermione say, "You mustn't..." What was it?

Mikey: It was something about destiny?

Caller: Something about who you are.

Mikey: Yeah, it was something about who you are/destiny. I remember that scene somewhere.

Andrew: I'm the chosen one, that's who I am. There's a quick shot of Voldemort too, again, I mean, it's cool, but he's not even in the movie so why? I don't know. I guess he will be in the movie, but really quick flashback.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: I'm just tired of seeing him when he's not in the movie.

Micah: There was a shot of young Voldemort too?

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Kind of screaming up.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: Yeah, there was like - there was one when he was a little kid and then in the bubble his face warps into big Voldemort, I don't know, something like that.

Andrew: Right. Yeah, I was referring to old Voldemort, for the record.

Matt: Oh, what Hermione says is, "You have to realize who you are." Or something like that.

Caller: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Mikey: Yeah, that's what it is.

Andrew: Nice.

Mikey: I knew it was in there somewhere.

Andrew: Cool, All right, well thanks for calling in Jose.

Caller: All right, no problem.

Andrew: Bye!

Matt: Bye [censored]!

Andrew: Okay, Matt, that wasn't nice.

Matt: What? I said Jose.

Andrew: Oh.

Matt: Sorry, my mouth went away from the mic. Sorry, that's not what I meant.

[Andrew laughs]



News: Another HBP Release Date


Andrew: All right, well there is some news to talk about today, and then maybe we'll take a couple more calls. So, obviously we're doing the show a little backwards today, but who cares? The first thing that really just happened actually the release date of Half-Blood Prince was changed to July 15th.

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: What do you guys think? I mean, is anyone upset or?

Matt: I mean, let's just talk about the reason why they did it. The whole...

Andrew: Well...

Micah: Money!

Andrew: Yeah, money.

Matt: Well, yeah, because now they're up against Transformers 2.

Andrew: No.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: No, the reason that WB said was because for every day every day in the summer is like a Saturday or a Friday. They said something like that.

Matt: Oh. What I read was they are coming up against a lot more competition.

Andrew: What's the release date of Transformers 2? [Noise goes off] Sorry about that. What's the release date of Transformers 2?

Matt: I'm looking, the chat is just killing my UStream or my internet...

Andrew: Don't have it open...

Micah: Well here's the quote though, from the guy...

Andrew: Yeah, read it.

Micah: "The gives the movie a head start on the weekend, during what is shaping up to be a highly competitive summer season for Hollywood which has major franchise films opening virtually every week." It's all about money!

Andrew: Yeah, of course.

Micah: They want the jumpstart on a huge weekend.

Mikey: Yeah, it's the same thing that happened when Order of the Phoenix came out...

Andrew: Yeah!

Mikey: And Pirates and all those movies. Transformers actually comes out on the 24th of June.

Matt: Yeah, of June, so it's coming out before.

Andrew: It's totally separate.

Mikey: Yeah, but it's the same thing. It's like there was Shrek 3 that came out, Pirates of the Caribbean 3, Order of the Phoenix, all those movies just came out one week after another. I felt like I was going to the movies every week...

Matt: It's because we all were.

Mikey: Or waiting a week and seeing two or three movies at once.

Andrew: Okay, here's my thing. They did this with Order of the Phoenix. So why not do it Why not think about this when they moved the date from November to July? Why wouldn't that dawn on them? I don't get it because it's already happened, this isn't new...

Mikey: Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, they did.

Andrew: No they didn't.

Mikey: They did...

Andrew: No they didn't.

Mikey: What happens is...

Matt: He was there.

Mikey: Andrew, Andrew, Andrew...

Andrew: This trailer says July 17th!

Mikey: Andrew, Andrew, this is considered what they call a tent pole movie. Okay?

Andrew: No, I know. We've heard all that. Okay, listen.

Mikey: And what holds it all up to make more money, they move it earlier...

Andrew: You're kidding right?

Mikey: They move it earlier. They originally planned that, I'm sure they did. It would be ridiculous if they didn't.

Matt: So do they want so the wanted to lose money by setting it eight months back? Is that how the math goes?

Mikey: No, that was a whole bunch of different reasons. But it was a tent pole movie to kind of keep up it's all business related.

Andrew: Okay, okay, Alan Horn. Thank you. Alan Horn.

Matt: Yeah, Thank you.

Mikey: All right, guys...

Andrew: President of Warner Brothers, Alan Horn is here, thank you!

[Matt and Mikey laugh.]

Mikey: All right, thank you, fine. Fine.

Andrew: No, but that's what he said.

Mikey: I don't know anything, you're right, I don't.

Andrew: No, it is about money.

Matt: This tent movie is...

Andrew: It is about money, but I don't need to this tent pole...

Mikey: They moved it back they put it in July...

Andrew: Is this a circus?

Mikey: They moved it earlier they moved it earlier, to Wednesday, like a lot of movies do.

Matt: Right.

Mikey: A lot of movies come out on Wednesday now because it gives them a couple days before the weekend box office, and what happens is those five days that are now the box office weekend automatically guarantees this movie's going to be number 1. It should have been number 1 already, but never know, and now they have five days going into that weekend tally to show that this movie is in the green, where they want it to be.

[Andrew plays "Circus" by Britney Spears in background]

Micah: What I think Andrew's point was why if you were concerned about the financial side of it, why would you have moved it back in the first place knowing that it would have made enough money in November anyways.

Matt: Yeah, it's only for two days! If the two days were so significant to put it up on that certain day, why didn't they do that when they released later to begin with? Because, you know - because, I mean, it was only a two-day that only meant they were trying to find the best date of that week to release it but that's something they should have already known when they were going to release it later.

Andrew: This is Alan Horn's new song, it's called "Circus." This is him singing.

Matt: Can you turn it off?

Andrew: And he's running a tent-pole.

Matt: All right. Are we...

Andrew: In the music video.

[Music is turned off]

Matt: I think the biggest issue we have for this release date is really that it was a day and a half at most so there's really no difference for anybody technically. The biggest thing that is the issue is Azkatraz. For us.

Andrew: Yeah, the thing...

Matt: And a lot of the fans and anybody who's going.



News: Azkatraz Update


Andrew: Those of you who are attending Azkatraz, here's what's going to happen. The film's going to be moved to 9 PM or around 9 PM - it's going to be between like 8 and 11. The movie theatre can't confirm the time for like another month or two so right now, those who are attending, you'll be seeing the movie earlier sure you could see it before that but the cool thing is this is IMAX so you can go see it in a regular theatre and then you can see it again in IMAX and then after the IMAX screening, we're going to be doing the podcast.

Matt: Mhm. And it's just a day, most of the people who are actually going to Azkatraz, they're going to be getting ready to go so you wouldn't be able to see the film, anyway. Maybe.

Andrew: Right. No, that's true. Yeah, and plus some people want to see it for the first time with their friends and that's totally understandable. But, okay, and here's the other thing; Deathly Hallows Part II comes out July 15, 2011. Guess what day that is. That's a Friday. So what do you think they're going to do with that date?

Matt: They're going to release it eight months later.

Andrew: No. They're going to...

Matt: Oh. [laughs]

Andrew: Well, maybe. But they're going to move it to Wednesday! Why not just move it now? Just tell us now, don't tell us three months out - because you know that's what they're going to do. They're going to wait until it gets really close and then all of a sudden, "Ah, guys, I'm sorry. We've got to move it to Wednesday! I mean, obviously we're going to do it, we did it with the other two films."

Matt: Ah, I don't know about the Deathly Hallows film, because there's so much hype already for this film because it's the last movie...

Andrew: But Matt, but Matt!

Matt: ...they're putting a lot of energy into it.

Andrew: But Matt! In the summer...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...every day's a weekend.

Matt: Yeah. Okay. I know. Thank you.

Andrew: You know what it is?

Matt: But...

Andrew: It's just a Circus.

Matt: Okay. But there's going to be so many events...

[Andrew starts playing "Circus" by Britney Spears again]

Mikey: Andrew.

Andrew: Sorry, I can't hear you over Alan Horn.

Matt: Can you turn off your crappy music?

[Andrew stops the music]

Andrew: It's Alan Horn.

Mikey: Wow.

Matt: Yeah, that's great.

Mikey: Wow.

Andrew: He's telling us about the tent-pole.

Matt: Yeah. The joke is dead.

Andrew: All eyes on me, Alan Horn, in the centre of the ring...

Matt: Okay!

Andrew: ...my tent-pole.

Matt: We get it! You're funny.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: Okay, in other news oh! By the way, Nick, MuggleNet staff member Nick, was talking to me about this earlier, he's upset because the UK still has to wait until the 17th. So, it is kind of unfair. I feel bad for them. Doesn't anyone else?

Mikey: Yeah. Does the UK do we know if they're going to change the date over there?

Andrew: Well...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I said to Nick maybe they will do it they just haven't decided yet, but that's what happens with the international release dates. And it is kind of weird because it's filmed there, it's produced there, it's edited there, like everything happens there for Harry Potter...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...and yet it comes out two days later than the US. I understand the tent-pole, the I Mikey I was making fun of you earlier...

Mikey: I know. I know.

Andrew: ...but I know it's a real term. You sent me a definition earlier and...

Mikey: Yes, I sent you very long-winded definitions, in Wikipedia. Look up ten-pole, for me.

Andrew: I know, I believe it, that's what he meant. That's what he said in the press release. "It's a tent-pole summer," blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Micah: And it looks like we've got an answer on that whole feather thing with Draco.

Andrew: Oh yeah?

Micah: Apparently he uses birds to test out the cabinet.

Andrew: Oh.

Micah: This was reported after the HPB screening - that Eric did.

Matt: Is it the same birds that Hermione used on Ron?

Micah: Maybe.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: What's this?

Matt: Ooh, birds.

Andrew: It's got Ron's hair on it. Hmmm.

Matt: Hmmm. I'm stealing these.



News: Waylett Arrested for Drug Possession


Andrew: In other news - and this is a more serious story - Jamie Waylett, the actor who plays Crabbe in the Potter films all five of them...

Matt: Mmmm.

Andrew: ...he was arrested for drug possession when he was pulled over with his friend and they, you know, were pulled over and they were found to have weed, marijuana, on them. Cannabalis, as the article says.

Micah: Cannabis.

Andrew: Cannabis, sorry.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: See, I don't know my terms just because I don't do that kind of thing. Stay in school, kids.

Matt: They're all in school too.

Andrew: Do you guys think this is going to affect the seventh film? Because he has a court date in July, so that may interfere with the premier.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Well, I think the bigger problem is that he was growing it at his apartment, not that or his home, rather not that he ...

Andrew: Yeah, that too.

Micah: Just happened to have it in possession when in the car.

Andrew: Right. Please...

Micah: It's going to cause a bigger problem at the premiere, I think, because that's going to be a big focus unfortunately for a lot of the media that goes there...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I would think.

Matt: Because I mean he has a death scene in the film. He does die.

Andrew: Yeah. So, I still think they'll have him back, you know, it'll blow over. Of course, in July it'll pick back up when the court trial is and who...

Matt: Mmhm.

Andrew: Knows what will happen after that?

Matt: Well, do we even know how...

Andrew: The punishment is?

Matt: Yeah, the punishment in England is, if it's the same as in the U.S.

Andrew: Somebody told me it's pretty bad, and I can't remember what the punishment is, but it can be pretty bad.

Micah: Its jail time, but I don't know how much.

Andrew: Yeah it's jail time. Yeah it depends on you know I think a lot of it is going to ride on his you know how much - him growing it at home too that's an even bigger offense.

Matt: Yeah that's a big offense.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: That's huge, that's a big flag.



News: J.K.R. Steps Down from MS Society Scotland


Andrew: So that's a shame, and then right around this time like more sad Potter news we found out that J.K. Rowling stepped down from the Multiple Scl Scl Scl...

Matt: Sclerosis.

Andrew: ...Sclerosis Society Scotland, and she had been the figure head of this she was a big supporter of it of finding a cure for MS because her mother died of it, and we found out that she stepped down. There was a statement from J.K. Rowling saying that there was something going on within MS Society Scotland that she didn't approve of. She thought things were going the wrong way so she stepped down, so it's kind of sad.

Matt: Yeah.



Marijuana Prison Term


Micah: It's 14 years by the way, is the maximum sentence for growing marijuana.

Andrew: In UK or...

Micah: Yup.

Andrew: Oh wow.

Micah: That's the maximum though.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: But they seized about four thousand dollars worth of weed in his house.

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: Dollars? Dollars or pounds?

Micah: Yeah, dollars.

Mikey: And see you have to, you also have to kind of see this to as he's not really a public figure, but he's also famous to the point where they might use him as an example so they might give him the worst case. Hopefully he doesn't get the worst case scenario but you know who knows where this could lead.

Andrew: Yeah it's a shame it really is but you know hopefully things get resolved, and may the law steer him the right way. I don't know what the proper thing is to say there.

Matt: Well, I don't think that's the proper way to say it.



Back to Rowling Stepping Down


Andrew: Anyways, J.K. Rowling, MS Society Scotland - pretty sad to see her step down right guys?

Mikey: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah, it's pretty sad.

Andrew: Because she was a big figure head but she'll always support it though, so that's a shame, but hopefully things will get better. Micah, there was also some casting rumors. You should be doing the news. You're the news man. I don't know why I'm doing the news.

Micah: No, I took the night off.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: Sorry.

Andrew: You don't work nights - Thursday nights.

Micah: Nope.

Andrew: Anyway well there was a - do you want to do it? Or...

Micah: No because I really don't have any idea what you're talking about.



News: Grindelwald Cast


Andrew: All right Jamie Campbell - you know - Jamie Campbell Bower he starred in most recently Sweeney Todd. [singing] "I have sailed the world beheld it's wonders," he was that guy. Right Matt? I think?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: He was cast as well the rumor is he will be cast as Grindelwald, and what do you think of that casting Matt?

Matt: I don't like it.

Andrew: Really?

Matt: No.

Mikey: Really?

Matt: No, I don't.

Mikey: You don't like it?

Andrew: Why not?

Matt: I just don't think he looks the part. I think he's too pretty.

Andrew: Here's his singing voice - well, Mikey what do you think of it? You've seen Sweeney Todd.

Matt: But he's also in a Twilight film too. He just got recently casted for the New Moon film.

Andrew: Yeah, he was cast in Twilight or I mean New Moon.

Mikey: You know - I think he kind of works as it, but maybe - you know - it's young - well do we know who's cast for young Dumbledore?

Matt: No, I don't. I don't think we know.

Andrew: There may - well will there be a casting? I mean maybe Michael Gambon can play it off?

Mikey: Really? You think so?

Andrew: I don't know I mean they made him kind of young.

Mikey: Well he's supposed to be in school at this time just graduating.

Andrew: Right.

Mikey: Like I can't imagine like you know Michael Gambon passing as an 18-year-old at all.

Andrew: Here's his voice he's a good singer.

[Clip plays]

Andrew: Ahhhh! So...

[Clip ends]

Matt: He has a really good voice.

Andrew: He's a good singer at least.

Matt: Yeah, it...

Andrew: [singing] "I feel you Dumbledore."

Matt: I mean he - I guess he could play a good Grindelwald but honestly I just think it's too soon.

Mikey: You know see I'm looking at some pictures of Sweeney Todd right now, and now I remember exactly who the guy is - you know - I really like him as it because he kind of has this - I don't know I'm looking at the first photo on IMDB with him and Johnny Deep in front of him and honestly he's got this crazy eye that can like totally pass for Grindelwald.

Matt: He does look really creepy.

Mikey: You know like a hunger for power and he wants to put Muggles beneath him like he's that strong I could see that I really could.

Andrew: Yeah, I agree.

Micah: I could've made a joke right there and I chose not to.

Mikey: Thank you. I appreciate it. I really do. We're trying to keep this show under PG-13, also.

Micah: Yeah. I know.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: But, Andrew, when was this? Because I don't even remember any news about Grindelwald. That's why I said that earlier.

Andrew: It was a couple - oh, it was a couple weeks ago.

Micah: Oh, Okay.

Andrew: I can't - I don't know. I got it off the site. I know we posted it, but yeah, we'll keep you updated on that. So yeah, so he's busy with New Moon, but I don't think that'll interfere with this film because, you know, they got flexible recording schedules.

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: Recording schedules?

Andrew: Filming schedules, sorry.

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: By the way, Matt sent me this. Somebody Photoshopped Dumbledore falling off the tower like I requested, and I'm going...

Mikey: Wait, where's it at? I want to see it.

Andrew: I'm going show it on the UStream thing. I'll send you a link in a little bit. Got to be honest, it's not the best Photoshop job because Dumbledore's like the size of the tower, but hey...

Matt: It's probably a close up. It's probably coming at the camera.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] I'll deal with it, you know. It's art. It's art. So, thanks to whoever created that. I don't know. Matt just sent it to me. We're going to paste a link in the chat if - it's good they did it this way because this is so obviously not what it would look like.

Matt: Yeah.



News: Yahoo! Posters


Andrew: Guys, we'll put it online, too, if you're listening to this show later, we'll put it in the show notes. We got to get out of here soon. What's - what else do we have to talk about? Oh! One last thing, okay. So, the Half-Blood Prince trailers were - posters were released over the past few weeks, but just tonight Yahoo! released some excellent new posters. Have you guys seen these yet?

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: Are you talking the character banners?

Matt and Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Yeah.

Matt: They're really cool.

Mikey: Do you know, there's one that it didn't sit right with me, and I'll tell you which one it is in a second.

Andrew: Mikey, can you turn your headphone volume down? I hear you a lot, or I hear myself a lot through it. I think it's yours, but yeah. Yahoo! released these really - and like when I saw these, I just had to gasp because they look great. The first one when you click the link is Dumbledore and Harry.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Okay. Yeah, Dumbledore and Harry, and they're like on a rock it looks like, but I mean this is obviously really Photoshopped, so this is not a scene from the movie, but what do you think of this new style where like the title is bigger than the poster?

Matt: I think its okay.

Andrew: Mikey? Micah?

Mikey: Yeah. Yeah, I like it. I think they don't need the title to be as predominant...

Andrew: Right.

Mikey: As it has been in previous ones because, come on. All these people are, you know, cultural icons. You know, hasn't - you know, Harry Potter - isn't he like number four famous...

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mikey: ...you know - hero in movies now? And Voldemort's like number seven as like, you know - the worst villain or something like that. It's like everyone knows Harry Potter now.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Like if you don't know what Harry Potter is, you really like have not been living on planet Earth. Like, it's everywhere - you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Whether you love it or hate it, you know what Harry Potter is. Especially, just like looking at someone with like a wand in their hand, like, "Oh, that's the Harry Potte thing."

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Even if it's not Harry Potter, everybody's like "Oh, it's a wizard. It's Harry Potter."

Andrew: Right.

Matt: Yeah. I'm liking the duo shots, though, with...

Micah: You do?

Matt: ...Hermione and Slughorn and Harry and Dumbledore together and Ron and Ginny together.

Andrew: I like them, too. What do you think, Micah?

Micah: Just the Quidditch one is the only one that looks normal. Like you were saying Photoshopped before...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...if you look at the first three, it looks like the person who's in the forefront, whether it's...

Andrew: Right.

Micah: ...Harry or Hermione or Draco, don't belong there.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Like the other characters: Slughorn and Dumbledore or - is it Dumbledore? No, Harry's in the background in the first one, but like Harry and Slughorn and Snape all look like they belong there, whereas the other characters that are in the front don't look like - it just looks weird.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: I think the Draco and Snape one looks the sort of fakest because Draco's making like a stupid face, and he's looking at a weird angle.

Micah: Well, he's probably about to say that line.

Andrew: What was the line again?

Matt: [in Draco voice] "I have to do this, Snape."

[Andrew plays the Draco clip]

Andrew: "I have to do this," and then, it goes like this.

[Andrew plays the Draco followed by the Snape clip]

Andrew: With that awkward audio cut, too.

Matt: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: So, yeah, and I liked the one of Ron and Ginny. I agree, but it's just really cool like the one of Ron and Ginny like the "H" is completely missing from the poster. It's just "Arry Potter," and I really like that. And like, what are they going to do with these posters? Because this is sort of the first time I'm really actually looking at this one, and Half-Blood Prince is completely cut off. You see "Half," "B," "L," and then "P." It's just really like - I don't know. I like the style because in the first one, you see Half-Blood Prince very clearly, with Harry and Dumbledore, you see it very clearly. And then Hermione and Slughorn, you just see the "Bloo" and then "-ince." And then Draco and Snape, you see them clearly. And then again, Ron and Ginny. It's like "Half-Bl P."

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: Sorry, maybe I'm just very emotional when it comes to posters. But yeah...

Micah: Well, the posters aren't that - they're not great.

Andrew: I like them. I think it's a nice change because you always see the traditional "Harry Potter and the blah blah blah," at the very top centered perfectly, and it's glowing...

Micah: Well, you shouldn't ask me about pictures anyway.

Andrew: Yeah, you don't like pictures.

Matt: Not a picture guy there, Micah?

Micah: No, just not Half-Blood Prince pictures.

Andrew: New poll on UStream: What do you think of the posters? The options are: Love it, like it, eh, or hate it. Hate them, I meant, sorry. I just typed those answers up right now. Well, we'll see what everyone thinks. And then the posters we saw a couple of weeks ago - those were really photoshopped, right?

Mikey: Oh, yeah.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: I think Dumbledore is looking very Gandalf-ish. I think he looks pretty cool, but, again, very photoshopped. We also see Draco and Ron. So all good stuff. Hey, I don't know if you guys know, but we're doing a podcast right now. So feel free to talk.

Matt: Yeah, sorry.

Micah: Oh! Sorry.

Mikey: We're looking - I'm looking at the posters still. Sorry.

Micah: There is one other piece of news, though, that's not in here...

Andrew: What's that?



News: Deathly Hallows Epilogue


Micah: That we got today about the Epilogue for Deathly Hallows...

Andrew: Oh yeah!

Micah: I know we're focusing on Half-Blood Prince, but...

Andrew: No, that's ok.

Micah: It's kind of important.

Andrew: Yeah. So what was the story?

Micah: Well, MTV spoke with David Heyman, and he said that the trio will play their own parts in the Epilogue.

Andrew: Yeah. Which is...

Micah: They don't have to get other actors.

Andrew: I don't know what to think about that because - ok, they're only aging, what, ten years?

Matt and Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: It's not - I think I'm just going to laugh when I see them aging like that. Like trying to age, to look older. You know what I mean?

Matt: You don't think it'll look good?

Mikey: No, see, I think it'll look fine! Because, honestly, aging someone ten years is not that hard with movie make-up. Trying to take someone younger is the hard part.

Andrew: Yeah, but it's their height, too. Like Dan Radcliffe, he's kind of short, so maybe they'll do an upward sort of camera angle...

Matt: Do you think he'll grow a lot in ten years?

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: I think he'll grow a lot in ten years, yeah.

Micah: No.

Mikey: Really? He's supposed to be like 17 at the end of the movie.

Andrew: No, but Dan Radcliffe himself, he's a short guy. He's like 5'10".

Matt: Then he'll be a short adult.

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: I guess so. But he'll - I don't know. Whatever!

Matt: It could work. It happens...

Mikey: Andrew, really, when you're 17 to 27, you're not going to grow a foot. You might grow, like five or six inches max.

Andrew: I grew - I'm 19 now, I was nine, I grew about two feet...

Matt: It's a lot different from nine to 19 though.

Mikey: It's - yeah, nine to 19 you grow a lot.

Andrew: Really?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Wait, hold on. My dad, when he was 19, he was my - he was 5'11", but now he's 7'11". So, you do grow.

Mikey: [laughs] Okay.

[Andrew laughs]

Mikey: 7'11". Wow.

Andrew: In ten years!

Micah: So, isn't it 19 years?

Andrew: 19 years. Sorry. Whatever. I was just throwing a number out of my head. The point is he - you know. It's a long time. He's going to pull a Benjamin Button, someone said in the chat. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Well, results of the UStream poll: 32% say "Love it!" in response to the posters. 40% say "Like it." 16% say "Eh." And 9% say "Hate it." I'm sorry. Geez, go back to your lame, centered, perfectly aligned posters. Go ahead, Micah.

Matt: What?

Andrew: Go ahead, Micah.

Micah: Oh, just about Deathly Hallows. They're going to have to age, what, five characters?

Matt: Yeah?

Andrew: Well, this article did say, what, the trio? But I assume they would. But don't you guys agree, it'll be funny. Like, you're going to see them older, and everyone in the audience is going to be like, "Haha. That's - they didn't really age."

Matt: Well, I don't know, because Benjamin Button did an awesome job. They did an awesome job making Brad Pitt look younger, so if they just make him look older, I think he'll work.

Andrew: They did a good job making him look older, too.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: So...

Matt: I think it will work.

Andrew: "We'll be sobbing," someone in the chat said. Good point.

Micah: I don't care about the epilogue - I hated it anyway.

Andrew: Yeah, I didn't like it either.

Matt: Well, I mean, odds are they're probably going to completely change the epilogue anyways.

Andrew: I think it will be cool to see them age them. It will be something to look forwards to. Even though we know that the epilogue isn't that great.

Matt: Yeah. Well, what can you do?



Matt's Phone Number!


Andrew: So, I think that's it. I think we're done for today. It's been a nice long show. I'm sorry we're not taking any more calls. Thank you to everyone who has been trying to call in. We really do feel bad that we can't take all the calls, and we appreciate you guys calling in. But, I'm sorry - we just cannot get to them all in one episode. Maybe we'll try to leave more time - you know - in future shows, but for this episode obviously we had a lot to talk about. So what are we to do?

Micah: Oh well.

Andrew: Yes. You can call us - Matt, can I give them your personal number so they can just call you?

Matt: Yeah. Yeah, here's my phone.

Andrew: 609-9692

Matt: That's actually - you are actually giving them my number!

Andrew: [laughs] Okay, well thanks everyone for joining us. It's been a lot of fun, like I said. Matt, Mikey, Micah.

Mikey: Yeah!

Andrew: God, all these M's! Getting confused.

Mikey: Hey Andrew, how come your name doesn't start with an M?

Andrew: I'm 'Mandrew'. Some people like to call me Mandrew because I'm a man.

Matt: Yeah, that's it. [laughs]

Mikey: Yeah, that's really the reason.

Andrew: No, that's really why. I think so.

Matt: Mmhmm. Definitely.

Mikey: I can think of at least ten other reasons why we call you that.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Okay.

Mikey: Anyway.



No More Trailer Shows


Andrew: Anyway. Thanks again everyone for listening. Really appreciate it. We'll try to get back with another show soon - obviously we're done with trailer shows for this movie! Already, we've done like what - five? So.

Mikey: This is the first one I've been on.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: That's not true.

Matt: It was great having you back though. Mikey, we miss you.

Mikey: That's not true - that's not my - this isn't my first one. I called while I was a work once during the first trailer...

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Mikey: ...the second trailer.

Matt: Oh, I wasn't on that.

Mikey: So, this isn't my first one. You're right. I'm lying.

Andrew: There you go.

Mikey: Sorry. Right.

Andrew: I've been on all of them. [laughs]

Micah: So based on our rate, we'll see you at Azkatraz...

Andrew: Azkatraz! [laughs]

Micah: ...for our next show. [laughs]

Andrew: No.

Mikey: No, no, no. See now I have my office set up. I have stuff - I'm no longer in the process of trying to get stuff packed up and moved and get settled in. I'm here now, and if you guys want me back, I'll come back.

Andrew: Speaking of - you know - hosts and their appearances, Jamie is going to be on the next episode. He wanted to be on this one, but it was way too late. But he really, really, really wants to be on another episode, so he'll be on episode 174 whenever that's released.

Micah: No way. How crazy is the chat right now?

Mikey: Wait, wait - did you know me, Jamie, and Ben want to be on an episode together again?

Andrew: All together?

Mikey: Like it hasn't happened for 100 episodes maybe.

Andrew: It was the good old days, what can I tell you.

Mikey: Yeah.

Andrew: But - yeah. So Jamie will be on 174. We'll try to put another episode together. We're trying to create a new show where - you know - we can have - we want to create new segments that we can keep using over and over and that are easy to peruse and stuff. Because I've got to be honest guys - we're kind of done with the theorizing at this point. I mean - you know - there's not much left to do. We went through all of Book 7, so we're pretty much done with that. So a lot of movie talk, theme park's coming up, exhibition's coming up. Some good stuff.

Micah: Some other things in the work.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Yeah, Azkatraz.

Matt: The whole movie thing.

Andrew: Ah! Yes, good hint, Micah. "Some other things in the works". Forgot about those. So...

Micah: Yeah, we can't talk about them right now.

Andrew: No. So you can look forward to all those things coming up in the future of MuggleCast.



Congratulations: Emerson and Gaby


Matt: Have we talked about Emerson?

Andrew: Ah yeah - congrats to Emerson by the way - he got engaged to his girlfriend. There's a video on YouTube. Search for "Emerson and Gaby" - G-A-B-Y - and you can see him proposing to Gaby at a basketball game.

Matt: Emerson's getting married. Yay!

Matt: Yay.

Andrew: I wonder if we're invited. Do you guys think we'll be invited?

Matt: I would go.

Mikey: I think so.

Micah: You probably are. I don't know if I am.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I hope he invites everyone!

Mikey: Yeah, the rest of us.

Andrew: I hope he invites everyone.

Matt: Yeah, it will probably just be you, Andrew.

Andrew: Well I don't - someone's got to cover the site. I'll be there at the chapel with my laptop and the news.

Micah: Nick will cover the site.

Andrew: What? Nick will cover the site?

Micah: Nick.

Andrew: No, I think Emerson's dad would appreciate it if I had my laptop at the wedding, and I was posting news live.

Mikey: If you were posting it step by step...

Andrew: I want to use UStream...

Mikey: ...Gaby is walking down the aisle.

Andrew: [laughs] I want to UStream his wedding. Has that ever been done before?

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Oh, it has?

Matt: Do you thing that Emerson's going to wear a MuggleNet t-shirt underneath his tux at the wedding?

[Everyone laugh]

Mikey: You know he will. You know he will.

Andrew: I would! I would so do that! I would so do that! We've got to ask him to do that. [laughs] Everyone's saying I should UStream the wedding. We'll have to talk to him about it. I mean, I don't see why not. Emerson would like that.

Matt: He'll be up for it. Definitely.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah.



Community Outlets


Andrew: Okay, again, thanks everyone for listening. We'll be back soon. Follow us on Twitter.com/MuggleCast, so you can get the latest updates about the show, Twitter dot com slash MuggleCast. Also, we have a Facebook page and check out our brand new MuggleCast site. Is this the first episode with the new site?

Micah: No.

Matt: No, no, it's not.

Andrew: Oh, darn. Okay, well check out the new MuggleCast.com if you haven't yet. We just got it re-vamped, and it's a great site. Really looks great.

Micah: And the transcripts, too. We promised we'd do those. Or plug those, right?

Andrew: Oh, yeah. The transcript section has been getting updated a lot, right Micah? What's the latest on that?

Micah: Yeah, it's been getting filled up, day by day. Margaret and all the other transcribers are working really hard, so it should be up-to-date hopefully within the next couple weeks, but...

Andrew: Perfect.

Micah: ...we're getting there.

Andrew: It's a really great archive to have.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: And I said on the show, like, I want to take every single word and sentence that's ever been on the show and put it on a huge poster. Just make the font really small, but every single word on the show. Wouldn't that be awesome? I think it would be cool.

Matt: That'd be a really small font, though.

Andrew: It'd be kind of weird.

Micah: Eric would probably take up half of it.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Matt: Yeah.

Mikey: Yeah. Oh, Eric.

Andrew: I don't think so. Anyway, and, yeah, thanks again to those transcribers. They do a great job transcribing the show. And while we're on the thank yous, thank you again to UStream for hosting us, it was another great event. No crashes, just one, but that's okay. It happens. Also, thanks to - thank you to the people who have been modding the chat, namely Andrew the Food Processor, as he likes to be called, you can find him on MuggleSpace, and Nick, MuggleNet staff member Nick, and Stephanie Perez, she was doing it, as well. Lucas wasn't here tonight like he usually is. So again, thank you, everyone, for listening. It's been a wonderful show.



Show Close


Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: And we cannot wait to see you next time. I'm Andrew Sims.

Mikey: I'm Mikey B.

Matt: I - oh, am I on?

Micah: Go ahead.

Andrew: Just go.

Matt: I'm Matt Britton.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: We'll see you next time for Episode 174. Buh bye!

Mikey: Bye!

Matt: Bye!

Micah: Bye!

[Music plays out the show]


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Written by: The Transcribers