News: Exhibition to Boston

Micah: But anyway, we mentioned the Exhibition before, but back on July 22nd the Boston Globe reported that the Exhibition will be moving to the Museum of Science in Boston, Massachusetts and it's set to open on October the 25th.

Andrew: Oh!

Ben: Are we going for the debut? Andrew?

Andrew: I don't know. We were invited to the Chicago one and Eric went since he lives there, but we gots nobody in Boston! I guess Micah's close. I don't know.

Micah: I'd go.

Andrew: Are they going to do a big premiere every time it moves? That would be kind of silly.

Micah: We'll they're going to add some new stuff. They're going to take away some...

Andrew: I hope so. Yeah.

Micah: Change it up a bit. So it'll be big once it gets there.

Andrew: Sure.

Micah: I'm sure they'll have the media thing for Boston press.

Andrew: All right, well now that we know which direction it's going, I will predict - we tried to make some predictions before, where it would go next after Chicago. So it went East to Boston. After Boston it's going to go South. It's probably going to hit - I'm looking at Florida, probably.

Ben: No.

Andrew: And then – why?

Ben: No.

Andrew: It's got to hit the southeast.

Ben: I'm thinking it's going to go to Nashville.

Andrew: Why Nashville?

Jamie: Tennessee.

Ben: Why not Nashville?

Andrew: Why not? Because it's a little random.

Jamie: Maybe it's going to come to England.

Ben: Well Boston's a little random.

Andrew: It is. True. Well Boston's a major city.

Ben: Nashville is sort of a major city.

Jamie: Maybe it's going to come to Kansas, Ben.

Andrew: Maybe they wouldn't move. Yeah, Kansas.

Jamie: Maybe it's going to come to Kansas.

Andrew: Well it's got to hit L.A. sometime too. So I'm thinking it's going to go south. Either Tennessee or Florida. We'll just agree on that.

Ben: Tennessee or Florida?

Andrew: Or somewhere in between. It will hit Atlanta.

Micah: It could go to Orlando.

Andrew: Yeah, with the theme park.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Sure thing.

Micah: Because it will probably wrap up in Boston right around when the theme park's opening. Right?

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Because it was at Chicago for a while.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: A couple of months.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Is it supposed to go internationally?

Andrew: Right! It is.

Micah: It is. Well that's a lot of time to spend in the U.S.

Ben: Yeah, I'm thinking Argentina.

[Everyone laugh]

Andrew: Or maybe Australia. There's a lot of Potter fans in Australia.

Micah: London.

Jamie: Yeah.

Ben: When is, when is, when is...

Andrew: Okay, out with it, come on, Micah, let's go!

Ben: When is the Andrew Sims exhibit coming to Kansas?

[Everyone laugh]

Ben: That's what I'm waiting on.

Andrew: I don't appreciate your candor. Stop it.

News: Waylett Not Returning

Micah: All right. Well apparently rumors have been flying around that Jamie Waylett will not return for Deathly Hallows. Instead Goyle will die in his place. This is probably due to the fact that Jamie was convicted on possession of marijuana.

Andrew: Now this was discovered at MuggleMayhem, a Harry Potter convention that was in cahoots with MuggleNet. Jamie, were you there?

Jamie: Yeah, we were there.

Ben: Did you bring the mayhem?

Andrew: Did you go to...

[Andrew and Ben laugh]

Jamie: Yeah, yeah. It was just a Muggle before I got there.

Andrew: [laughs] Did you go to this - I guess you didn't go to this thing.

Jamie: No, no, I went to the talk.

Andrew: Do you remember it?

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Did he say that?

Jamie: Well yeah, I think he did, yeah. But I mean, we've just announced it now so there's no point in me calling the guy is there? [laughs]

Andrew: Well because it was on another fan site. It was on Snitch Seeker.

News: Deathly Hallows Split

Jamie: He did. Yeah, he announced that and he also said like where Deathly Hallows is being cut.

Andrew: Oh! So you can confirm this? We now have confirmation.

Jamie: Well, I don't know. You told me you wanted me to call the guy who runs it.

Andrew: Yeah, but I didn't know you where there.

Jamie: Yeah yeah, I was there.

Andrew: Oh! Oh, well with the - looks like we've got a news post to post on MuggleNet.

Jamie: No, no, yeah. He confirmed that Deathly Hallows would be split between - just before - oh no, no - when they're caught by the - what's it called?

Andrew: Snatchers.

Micah: The Snatchers.

Jamie: The Snatchers. And just before they're taken to the Malfoy Manor which is actually an awesome place to cut it because it's just before a huge, huge important scene. So I think that's a great place to cut it.

Andrew: All right, so that's newsworthy. That's interesting.

Ben: MuggleNet.com's Jamie Lawrence has confirmed it, folks.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: I'm going - that's going to be the first sentence. "We've received exclusive news from MuggleNet's own Jamie Lawrence..."

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Okay. Well that's interesting because a lot of people were predicting it would happen around Malfoy Manor.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Because you know it's a central point to the book and...

Jamie: It does make sense.

Ben: Now who said this? Was it Jamie Waylett?

Andrew: No, Joshua Herdman.

Jamie: Yeah yeah yeah, it was Josh Herdman. Yeah yeah, it was him.

Andrew: And so then he also confirmed that - and this seems ridiculous - that his character is going to die - Goyle instead of Jamie Waylett because W.B. doesn't want Jamie back.

Jamie: Which - yeah and that's going to be really weird because like I don't know how they're going to do that Fiend Fyre scene. How - I bet they'll cut that out completely. Like Harry will just go in and get the diadem and then come out and he'll just curse Goyle or something like that. I don't know how they can put it in.

Andrew: I hope not though.

Jamie: Or no...

Andrew: I hope not.

Jamie: ...it will just a random Slytherin, I bet. I bet they'll just get like some unknown Slytherin to just come in and be with Goyle so he can act as his partner with Malfoy.

Andrew: Yeah. Get the guy who was on the train with Draco in the beginning of Half-Blood Prince.

Jamie: Blaise?

Andrew: Blaise, get him. He can do it.

Jamie: Yeah, but do they actually need someone else? Because if you think, Malfoy and Goyle could just go into the Room of Requirement. Malfoy could do his thing, Goyle could create Fiend Fyre...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...and die, so they don't actually need anyone.

Andrew: You're right, they don't. But it may be cool to have someone.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: Well that's very interesting. And that's a good point though that Fiend Fyre scene in particular. I re-read that the other day. I'd hate for them to have to cut that out.

Jamie: Yeah, it's a cool scene, isn't it?

Andrew: Yeah, it's a cool scene, there's a lot going on. It's a long scene too. It's crucial!

Jamie: Crucial.

Andrew: Harry thought - Harry was ready! He was going to do it, he was going to get the diadem and then freakin' Slytherins come in and ruin all the fun.

Micah: So breaking news. We should have lead off with that to start the show.

Andrew: Breaking news. It's a MuggleMayhem exclusive.

Jamie: Exclusive.

Micah: All right.

Andrew: Who knew that was going to happen?

News: IMAX 3D

Micah: Final piece of news. It says, "Not really news but a small rant." Half-Blood Prince IMAX 3D, only the first ten minutes are in 3D. What is up with that?

Jamie: Yeah, that is terrible.

Andrew: Yeah, we didn't talk about this the last show. Yeah. Jamie, did you see it in 3D?

Jamie: No, no, no, just in normal, normal thing.

Andrew: Okay.

Jamie: But that's ridiculous it's like buying a filet mignon steak and only 10% is like that and the rest of its rump.

[Andrew laughs]

Andrew: Exactly. Well, and you know, they didn't tell anyone either, that - okay, there was a conference - IMAX did this conference call and we reported on it earlier this year. The IMAX people said the beginning was going to be in 3D and the end too.

Jamie: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Andrew: And the end wasn't in 3D. It was very, very misleading. And shame on IMAX...

Jamie: That is really bad.

Andrew: Matt and I went to see it in 3D. You know, the first ten minutes were cool, it was cool to see it in 3D, and then it says, "Glasses off." And that was it.

Jamie: I don't know like, I think 3D films are crap. Like I went to see Ice Age 3 and it was terrible. It was terrible.

Andrew: Really?

Jamie: I didn't think...

Andrew: I think they're fun.

Jamie: But like, like...

Andrew: What?

Jamie: I compare it - like when we were in Florida, I saw that, "Honey I Shrunk The Something" 4-feature 3D ride and when that snake came out, it comes right in front of your face. That's proper 3D.

Andrew: Yeah, that's cool.

Jamie: But this just doesn't seem like decent 3D. IMAX obviously is cool but I don't know about 3D.

Andrew: Yeah, I think you're right, it's a shame, and they kind of rip people off. I just wanted to mention that because a lot of people have been e-mailing us about that. So there we go. And I think that's all for news.

Jamie: Cool.

Announcements: Podcast Alley

Andrew: Thank you, Micah. And let's move onto some announcements. First of all...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: ...as always, please vote for us on Podcast Alley, we appreciate your vote over there because that way people in the podcasting community see us and know we are no joke! Yes, we're Harry Potter fans and we're proud, damn it!

Jamie: Yes, we are.

Ben: How many votes have we gotten?

Andrew: About a billion at this point.

Micah: Well, I heard on some ESPN Podcast that they were kind of aggravated that we were in front of them, in some category.

Andrew: Well, listen...

Ben: You really heard that on an ESPN podcast?

Micah: A fantasy football podcast or something like that. I have to go check this out and actually listen to it.

Ben: First of all, fantasy football people are even weirder than Harry Potter fans, so...

Andrew: Yeah.

[Everyone laugh]

Ben: So, I don't know what they're talking about.

Andrew: Well listen, people frequently get jealous that a Harry Potter podcast can beat their [deep voice] fantasy football, or their talk radio. The fact is, Harry Potter fans are very, very passionate about Harry Potter discussions, not to be looked down upon, so...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: So screw them!

Micah: Well I think they do call us somewhat professional.

Andrew: Oh. Well, in that case, they're a nice podcast.

Jamie: Extremely nice people.

Andrew: Yeah, we really like them. Good show. Check them out.

Micah: It's called, "Fantasy Focus Football". One of ESPN's great fantasy sports podcasts.

Jamie: Fantasy football is actually a lot of fun. My office just started doing it and it is pretty addictive.

Andrew: Yeah, it is fun. Ben, you used to do fantasy football, didn't you?

Ben: I tried it once. But I decided that Harry Potter was enough.

Announcements: Leftover T-Shirts

Andrew: Okay, in other announcements, a T-shirt update. We sold T-shirts at Azkatraz 2009, like we always do, and we had some left over. And decided to put them up for sale. Now we kind of kept it on the DL because technically it's not allowed. Well, we didn't have many shirts left, and I promoted it through Twitter and Facebook and we sold out very quickly and I apologize to those of you who do not follow us on Twitter or are fans of us on Facebook, because otherwise you didn't know about this. I'm very sorry, [laughs] but the shirts are sold out.

Ben: So for offers in the future, you better get Twitter or Facebook.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly, keep an eye on our Twitter. Twitter.com/MuggleCast. Speaking of that, Jamie, you need to get into the Twitter world.

Jamie: Oh no way, no way. I'm past it.

Andrew: Come on.

Jamie: It's a young person's game, it's a young person's game.

Andrew: Oh, Jamie, that's a bit...

Jamie: I'm not that interesting. I don't have something to say every two minutes. Like...

Andrew: Well it's not every two minutes, do it once a day.

Jamie: Well what's the point? I might as well just like, write an e-mail or go on Facebook.

Ben: You could tweet a British Joke of the Day.

Jamie: Oh, I don't know. What jokes can you fit into 140 characters?

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Everybody e-mail jamie at staff, and tell him to get Twitter.

Announcement: Micah's Birthday

Andrew: All right and final announcement for today, it's more of a Happy Birthday wish to Micah! Because it's Micah's birthday!

Jamie: Hey!

[Clip from Alice In Wonderland of the Mad Hatter singing "A Very Merry Un-Birthday" plays]

Andrew: Happy Birthday, Micah.

Ben: Congratulations, Micah...

Jamie: That's nice.

Ben: ...for making it through another year on this earth.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] A year, another year. Congrats, Micah. All right, well, did you have a fun birthday, Micah? It was just the other day.

Micah: I did.

Jamie: What did you do?

Micah: I had a bunch of people over for a barbecue. I know it's kind of an American thing to do.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: No, no, no, no, no.

Micah: Beach and barbecue.

Jamie: That's because you can do it. It would just rain here and put the barbecue out, so that's the only reason we don't do it.

[Andrew, Ben and Micah laugh]

Micah: It was a good time.

Andrew: Okay, there we go.

Jamie: Awesome.

Happy Birthday MuggleCast

Andrew: And of course, Happy Birthday to MuggleCast, we just turned four a couple weeks ago, isn't that nice? We're in our fifth year now! Five years ago today - actually, no. Four years ago today we were on our third episode.

Jamie: That is pretty special.

Andrew: It is. It really is.

Jamie: What are we going to do for our ten year one?

Andrew: Oh, geez. I don't know, I don't know.

Ben: We should do a 24-hour show.

Jamie: Yeah, that 12-hour one was pretty tough, though.

Andrew: Yeah, that was a killer. Maybe we'll do something special for next year, because that's the fifth anniversary, that's pretty good.

Jamie: Andrew...

Andrew: Yes?

Jamie: Your stamina for that was incredible.

Andrew: [laughs] Thank you.

Jamie: After like 6 hours I was like...

Andrew: That's what a lot of people tell me.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, it was hard, and we were working against - I mean, you were up very late to do that, so...

Jamie: It was fun though, definitely fun.

Andrew: Yeah, it was.

Ben: Andrew only has stamina when it comes to podcasting.

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Muggle Mail: Use of Alcohol in Half-Blood Prince

Andrew: Awkward. Let's move on now to Muggle Mail. Micah, could you read that first e-mail for us? It's from Owen.

Micah: First e-mail comes from Owen, 18, of Georgia, and he says:

"You talked about the presence of alcohol in 'Half-Blood Prince' in Episode 177. I admit that I thought, 'What the heck?' when Hermione seemed to be a little tipsy, but I don't think that it was such a problem. Most people, except for the most diligent fans, don't realize, in the context of the story, magical citizens come of age at seventeen. Hermione is the oldest of the trio and has already been seventeen for months by the time she goes to the Three Broomsticks, so it's perfectly legal for her to consume alcohol. There's a little bit of shock value but most fans will not get it. I got it, but my twelve-year old cousin did not. There's stuff like this for every movie. There's humor for the kids and then there's humor that's snuck in there for the bored parents sitting by their children. Anyway, thanks for listening to this little rant. I love the show, and am waiting for more episodes."

Andrew: I think somebody brought up a good point last week that in England, alcohol - oh, Laura said this. America's the only state where - or country where alcohol is so frowned upon.

Jamie: No. It's frowned upon here as well.

Andrew: Is it?

Jamie: Oh yeah, yeah.

Andrew: Well, what do you think about the alcohol consumption? There was a lot. And, there was a New York Times piece talking about it.

Jamie: Yeah, but they're going to bring it up. It's like there are certain journalists and certain reporters whose job it is to make something out of nothing. And it isn't a problem...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...and it won't ever be a problem. And people generally drink alcohol and it's what they do and it's what they do. I'll tell you, I was walking through a train station a couple of weeks ago, right? There was a sign...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...that said, "Be extremely careful, 15 people were injured getting on and off trains here last year." And this is the London Underground where like one billion people travel through every year...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...and like 15 people injured? You aren't going to improve on statistics like that. What do you want...

Andrew: Right.

Jamie: ...like no one injured in the entire year?

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: And that's what people do; they make something out of nothing. And even if she was underage, it's all about this thing, like making children scared of strangers and scared to do stuff and it's like - and if you show them responsible drinking...

Ben: Jamie, Jamie, are you saying it doesn't matter if she's underage?

Jamie: No, I'm saying that responsible drinking is more important than - irresponsible drinking, and the - it's important...

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: What, what, what? No, but obviously it is, and I just think it's people lose sight of the big picture a lot, a great deal, and I'd rather she was drinking with friends at seventeen than drinking at eighteen and going out and drinking way too much and waking up in an alleyway, but that is just me.

Andrew: Yeah. No, I think you're right.

Micah: There are plenty of adults that abuse alcohol...

Andrew and Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: ...and don't know how to act once they consume too much of it.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. Nonetheless, it was fun to talk about that there is alcohol in the movie more so than usual.

Ben: Well, if you look in the books, there's a lot of alcohol in the books. They reference...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...you know, fire whiskey and all the different things a lot.

Jamie: But you say about alcohol, like what do you mean, butterbeer? First of all, first and foremost, but like...

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, at the Three Broomsticks I guess, that scene. But, then also when Slughorn and Hagrid were drinking in Hagrid's hut, and then Hagrid kind of falls backwards...

Jamie: Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, but also, when you talk - when Slughorn poured a drink for Ron, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: That, to me, that has illustrated all through the books how nice a teacher-student relationship could be and like teaching nowadays is so screwed up because teachers are so scared of being accused of stuff that they can't, all they are - like I read an article that said that teachers now are encouraged to treat their students as clients, just like a doctor would treat someone as a client, which is not how the teacher-student relationship would be, in Harry Potter, Lupin treats Harry like a friend, and their relationship develops because of that, and I think that's quite nice about Harry Potter, that it isn't a world where people would normally act with common sense rather than this world we live in now.

Ben: Well yeah, I mean if people are acting - if teachers are acting like their kids are clients I don't think - I mean, the most important part is communication, and how are you going to get across to a kid if you're coming across in this professional manner that really doesn't appeal to them?

Jamie: Yeah, exactly. It's stupid. I mean it's the most illogical thing in the world, but it's like, but then it comes down to these journalists writing for the New York Times who always make something out of nothing when there really aren't that many problems around, and if people just chilled out and got on, oh it's ridiculous, it does my head in!

Andrew: All right, well we'll calm you down, we'll move on to the next e-mail.

Jamie: Cool.

Ben: Can I read it?

Andrew: Ben, can you read the next one? Yeah!

Muggle Mail: Half-Blood Prince Rating

Ben: This is from Ariella? Areeleya?

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Araleya.

Ben: Araleya. Araleya Baca, age 18 from Ashville, North Carolina. She writes:

"Hey Mugglecast, I was just wanting to pop in and ask what you guys think the rating for 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows' will be, especially after the PG rating for 'Half-Blood Prince.' First off, I think the reason why they made HBP PG was to keep young audiences in just before the bump up with the violence in 'Deathly Hallows.' I think 'Deathly Hallows' will be pushing the rated R rating, because the young audience that they had for 'Half-Blood Prince' will be two years older and will be okay. I will only be satisfied with 'Deathly Hallows' if they make it as violent as the book was because I am already scared enough as to what they might ruin. Hope you guys are doing well, and keep up the great work."

Andrew: Yeah, Jamie touched on this earlier. There's some nasty stuff in this - in seven, and I think it's got to be - they don't want to go for R. No way.

Ben: They're not going to go for R.

Jamie: I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. And, so, I think PG-13 would be good. I mean, you know, it depends on what they do, it depends on what they cut out, and so there's a lot riding on it, and the PG rating for Half-Blood Prince was a bit of a surprise to people, so...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: ...who knows what's going to happen, really.

Ben: Well I think there - in Half-Blood Prince there was only one death, really and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...but in Deathly Hallows, there's obviously going to be more people dying, so I think that...

Jamie: With ears being cut off, and stuff.

Ben: Yeah, so I think there's more blood, more gore, so R of course, is a bit out there but...

Andrew: And more language! More language too, when you think about I was reading one part of Deathly Hallows a couple weeks ago and...

Ben: "Not my daughter you bitch!"

Andrew: Yeah not just that but also somebody says "bastard" towards the end.

Jamie: Oh yeah, yeah.

Muggle Mail: Snape's Allegiance

"Hi Mugglecasters, I love listening to your show. It is one of my favorite podcasts to listen to on my drive to work. I just wanted to make a comment on a statement you made in Episode 177. When you were discussing the new movie, you mentioned that it was kind of obvious whose side Snape was on, and that at the end of 'Half-Blood Prince' the book everyone knew that Snape was good even if they didn't want to admit it. I have to disagree. Going into 'Deathly Hallows,' I was certain that he was evil."

And she quotes, "A bastard coated bastard with bastard filling."

Who said that?

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: No idea.

Andrew: Yeah I can't remember. She quoted it, though, so hopefully it's from the book.

Ben: Maybe it's her quote.

Andrew: Maybe. "There was so much evidence to back me up, I know I could not have been the only one who was fooled. I just wanted to share. Keep up the good work."

Ben: This is one of those things where hindsight is 20/20, where people are like, "Oh yeah, I was on the good side," just like people...

Jamie: Yeah yeah, it is.

Ben: ...like I know people, people who come out right now, and are like, "I knew Dumbledore was gay. I mean, all along, I knew he was gay."

[Jamie laughs]

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Ben: And I'm just like, really? You didn't know he was gay, you didn't, you're just trying to be cool.

Jamie: No, no, but...

Andrew: Well in all fairness though there were some people who were right about Snape.

Jamie: Yeah.

Ben: What's that? What'd you say, sorry? I didn't hear you.

Jamie: But.

Andrew: There were some people who were right about Snape.

Jamie: Some people had to be right, though, because like...

Andrew: Yeah, fifty-fifty shot. [laughs]

Jamie: But, J. K. Rowling, she's a nice person and she, like, believes in morals and stuff, and I think it would be quite tough for her to write like, "I'm completely falling for this hindsight 20/20 thing, I really didn't know." But I'm just saying now, it's like Hollywood movies. Books really have to show that crime doesn't pay and people are good. Kind of, like this kind of genre.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: So I guess it makes sense for Snape to be good, but yeah, I didn't know.

Andrew: Jamie, could you do us the pleasure of reading the final e-mail, please?

Muggle Mail: Dumbledore's Pensieve

Jamie: Yes. All right, this comes from Catherine, 15, from Boston whose subject is "Dumbledore's Pensieve".

"Hey guys, I love the show. You guys are awesome, and it's always interesting to hear your opinions about 'Harry Potter.' I was wondering about Dumbledore's Pensieve. In the movie it was shown that all of Dumbledore's memories were bottled up on a shelf. However, what happens once the memory taken out of the bottle holds it and one views it? Would you be able to extract the memory again and save it to view again? For example, when Snape gives Harry his memories of Lily and Harry views them, what happens to the memories? Would Harry be able to see those memories again? Or is it that once these memories are viewed, one is unable to recapture that memory? Thanks again. You guys rock, Catherine."

Andrew: I was wondering that, too. It seems very odd.

Ben: Well, I thought that the Pensieve was like this basin with the silvery liquid in it. You dive into it and then you can see the memories. I didn't think they, they don't disappear, do they?

Andrew: Well, they don't just pour it in...

Ben: Because think about in Half-Blood Prince, Dumbledore obviously had already looked at the memory of what went on with Slughorn because when Harry saw it he said, "Yeah, this is incomplete." So obviously, he had viewed it again and then it was Harry's task to get the correct memory - the actual one that wasn't tampered with.

Andrew: Yeah. And I guess it's just a good visual representation for the films.

Micah: Right. My only thing...

Ben: Well, something that was interesting about when Snape gives Harry the memory of Lily, that was all too convenient. I recently reread Half-Blood Prince, and I just thought it was interesting how Harry wouldn't have known all he needed to know unless he happened to be in the right place at the right time. And as Snape was dying, he gives Harry the memory of Lily and all this information he needed to know. What if he had shown up at the Shrieking Shack three minutes later and Snape was dead already? Then nothing would have went down in the end. Harry would have died.

Andrew: Yeah. It's just a thing about stories, though. You know what I mean? You think that sometimes of stories, "Well, if this didn't happen, then the rest of the story wouldn't happen." But it's just something you got to deal with. Ben, did you unplug your headphones?

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: It's just something you got to deal with. I mean, it just happens in these stories. It's just how storytelling works.

Ben: I know. I've dealt with them.

Andrew: Yes, you are a writer. I'm sure it was... [laughs]

Micah: I was going to ask, though, how are they going to deal with some of the memories that weren't shown in this particular book - I mean, this particular movie?

Andrew: Like what?

Micah: Well, Hepzibah Smith. That was left out.

Andrew: Mmm.

Micah: I don't really think the Gaunts matter that much anymore. Dumbledore had that couple of seconds with the ring where he didn't really do much explaining. But I thought they gave a little bit more insight. I guess they could do flashbacks in the next movie if they choose to?

Andrew: Yeah. You know how Hermione is really convenient? She's got all information anyone needs in Book 7? I feel like that's what's going to happen in the film, too. Only more so, just like with the stuff they missed in the past.

Micah: Probably, yeah.

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