MuggleCast 186 Transcript (continued)
Preview Discussion: Griphook
Andrew: And then we see Griphook and he's talking to Harry. And we see Ron and Hermione in the background. And Griphook - it was - it was cool to see him. Is it just me or did he have a lot of makeup on?
Matt: Yeah, doesn't - he looks creepy.
Andrew: Yeah it's too...
Micah: Looks like a leprechaun.
Ben: Wait, wait. Those aren't his real ears?
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Eric: That's not Griphook. [laughs]
Andrew: No, it's - what?
Eric: It doesn't look like him. I mean it doesn't look like the...
Eric: ...Griphook from Movie 1.
Andrew: Well yeah, like it looks like he has really nice like - his skin just looks too clear - [laughs] - for Griphook.
Matt: Yeah, well...
Ben: He got a new face wash.
Matt: [as Griphook] "Lamp please. Key please. Stand back."
Eric: Wait, that's not - yeah, that's Griphook.
Matt: Yeah that was Griphook.
Ben: [as Griphook] "Stand back."
Andrew: Someone in the chat says he's aged well. That's absolutely right.
Matt: Yeah, I mean his hairs not white anymore.
Ben: This is Warwick Davis, isn't it?
Ben: Starred in The Leprechaun. He was on episode like what, like 65 of MuggleCast?
Andrew: Of MuggleCast? Yeah.
Ben: Back in the day.
Andrew: Yeah that was a fun interview with him.
Matt: Verne Troyer though was the original Griphook.
Matt: He wasn't?
Ben: Verne Troyer was that kid from Austin Powers.
Andrew: Yeah. But he had...
Eric: Yeah but he had - he had a Harry Potter role.
Ben: Did he?
Andrew: Yeah but we have to...
Eric: In fact I thought it was Griphook.
Andrew: It's not though and I just - I proved this again the other day. The Ultimate - Sorcerer's Stone Ultimate Edition he - Warwick Davis was interviewed and it says, "Griphook and..."
Eric: That doesn't prove anything. IMDB...
Matt: Yeah because it says on IMDB that he played Griphook and I heard somewhere that he did play it too.
Ben: That Verne Troyer did?
Matt: Yeah, Verne Troyer.
Ben: Where? Let's...
Eric: It sounds like him too.
Ben: On IMDB?
Matt: Yeah, on IMDB.
Eric: Yep, Harry - in fact that's his most known work. If you look up Verne Troyer it says, Actor, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
Ben: IMDB must be wrong.
Andrew: I don't know. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Ultimate - he was interviewed on these Ultimate Edition that just came out. Warwick Davis is credited as Flitwick and Griphook.
Eric: You sure that was the...
Matt: Maybe he was the voice. Maybe he was the voice of Griphook.
Andrew: Oh, yeah maybe he was the voice.
Ben: No, no, no. [laughs]
Matt: Because - okay - Grip - okay. I mean - we know Griphook is - I mean Warwick Davis is not as short as Griphook was in the film.
Ben: Well there are more - there are more - there are more goblins in that first film, aren't there? Isn't there...
Ben: Is Griphook the one...
Matt: He - no, no, Warwick Davis played the head goblin banker.
Ben: Yeah. That's what I thought.
Matt: The one who asks for the key.
Eric: "Does Mr. Potter have his key?"
Matt: That was him. But he didn't - he didn't play Griphook. Verne Troyer did.
Micah: The one who opened the vault was Verne Troyer.
Matt: Yes, thank you Micah.
Andrew: All right. You know what? Who cares?
Micah: We don't need to go into this anymore.
Andrew: This is never going to be solved.
Ben: Verne Troyer is not going to be in the last movie.
Matt: That's because you're never going to agree with us.
Ben: Well, who's the current Griphook?
Andrew: Warwick Davis!
Andrew: It was him.
Ben: I trust Andrew.
Andrew: Thank you.
Matt: Yeah well he plays him now but I'm not saying that's what he played in the first film.
Eric: And it looks nothing like him.
Andrew: All right. Whatever, guys. Who cares?
Ben: Come on.
Andrew: I mean we're - whatever. This...
Ben: We digress.
Andrew: This is so Gaga.
Ben: Ooh, la, la.
Eric: Oh my God, did you guys see this?
Matt: We got a tweet from Mikey Bouchereau.
Andrew: What did he say?
Eric: He just tweeted one minute ago. He says:
"Matt Britton, woohoo. You guys are doing awesome. I dig the video setup."
Andrew: Aw, thanks Mikey. I love...
Ben: Ask him if he thinks its rad.
Eric: Well I - he tweeted towards Matt. It would be rude for me to tweet him back. Matt is...
Preview Discussion: Harry in the Forest
Andrew: All right, let's - yeah, you're jumping into the conversation. All right let's move on, let's stay focused here. Next we see Harry - okay, here's another mini-debate. We see Harry holding something in the Forest. Is it the Two-Way Mirror or is it the Resurrection Stone?
Eric: Where do you get all these scenes, Andrew? I...
Andrew: Well, you can look at the Ustream chat right now as long as you have it muted.
Eric: I - it's not loading for me, man. I mean it's not updating. I still see this video - oh it's of you guys. Do I hit play?
Matt: Yes, dark.
Andrew: Oh no, no, no. Oh yeah, hit play but then hit mute on the volume on the thing. But yeah it is a dark shot. Harry is in the Forest up against a tree. Everybody says it's the Mirror. All right, so we'll stick with the Mirror.
Matt: Does, well - does he have the Mirror...
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah he's playing the harmonica.
Andrew: [singing] "I'm so alone." Okay, yeah, I...
Matt: It has to be the Mirror because the Stone isn't that big. I thought it was like a pebble.
Micah: It's a - it's a part of the Mirror. It's not the whole Mirror, I don't think.
Eric: Right, right.
Andrew: Yeah, it's not like Snow White, "Mirror, mirror, in my hand. Who's the evilest of..."
Matt: God, I'm gorgeous.
Preview Discussion: The Graveyard Again
Andrew: [laughs] Show me Aberforth. Harry and Hermione at the graveyard is the next scene we see. Eric we were talking about this before. Now, you were commenting on the snowfall in the behind-the-scenes footage. Now, what about the snowfall in the actual footage?
Eric: It's on par with...
Andrew: On par?
Eric: With what I'd expect from having seen the behind-the-scenes look at the graveyard.
Andrew: Go ahead.
Eric: It shows that in the editing process they didn't lose or add more snow. They thought it was as good as I did.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: But you also see the Peverell gravestone.
Andrew: That's right.
Eric: Which is very mythological, very, you know...
Andrew: What do you mean?
Eric: The mythology of the - of the book. And the history of the Deathly Hallows.
Eric: That's a - that's a relic.
Eric: But it also, it reminds me of the - you guys remember the Tom Riddle Senior gravestone that they screwed up the dates on in the props department?
Ben: In Goblet of Fire?
Eric: Remember that? And then the fans emailed and they were like, "Dude, you've got it all wrong." But it had already made it into a trailer at that point, I think, or a promo.
Andrew: I think it was - yeah, I think it was a promo picture. But remember, Goblet of Fire just had a bad year in general. There was also that poster that was missing a comma. [laughs]
Andrew: That got people all in a tizzy.
Ben: What was the poster where they doctored up Emma Watson?
Matt: Order of the Phoenix.
Andrew: Order of the Phoenix IMAX poster.
Ben: Was that - that was Order of the Phoenix, or was that Prisoner of Azkaban?
Andrew: No, no.
Matt: No, that was Order of the Phoenix.
Ben: Oh, it was?
Matt: Yeah. And they gave her...
Andrew: But it was just the IMAX poster and people noticed because the IMAX poster had Hermione with bigger breasts whereas on the Warner Bros...
Ben: Well it's supposed to be in 3D! Give them a break.
Matt: It's in IMAX, it's that much bigger!
Eric: They're just giving you a preview of how much improved it was.
Andrew: [laughs] Oh, that's terrible.
Matt: In the scene though - I mean, in the book, wasn't Hermione and Harry supposed to be disguised?
Andrew: Where? Oh, in the graveyard?
Matt: Yeah, weren't they taking Polyjuice Potion or something?
Andrew: I think that's right.
Matt: They were supposed to be an old couple or something.
Ben: Yeah, they were an old couple, you're right.
Matt: What do you guys think? Do you think this is better?
Andrew: I don't know. Well, maybe they walk in under the cloak and then they take it off because for film purposes, you can't have them hiding under that cloak the whole time, people want to see Harry and Hermione.
Andrew: And I know they've done it before where they're semi-translucent so you know they're under the cloak but you still see them. I just think that it's better if you can actually see them. I would take off the cloak.
Andrew: Yeah, I mean for God's sake they can't fit in it anymore. I mean, it's even described in the books, you can see their...
Matt: See their feet, yeah.
Ben: Now, they're going to see the writer of The History of Magic, right? What's her name, Bathilda Bagshot? Is that who they're going to see? No. Who is it, what's her name?
Eric: What, at Godric's Hollow?
Ben: At Godric's Hollow. What's the name of...
Micah: Yeah. That's who it is.
Ben: Yeah okay. And doesn't her head pop off and the giant snake comes out?
Eric: Yeah, the snake comes out. It's one of the weirdest moments in the entire literature.
Matt: God I can't wait to see that! I hope it's graphic.
Andrew: Ooh, ooh I forgot about that! I'm all excited now.
Matt: It's like the - the entire snake is inside her body.
Eric: Yeah, yeah. Under - I mean, it's magic, to be fair. But...
Ben: It'll be great to see how it turns out.
Eric: Yeah, Deathly Hallows is definitely a G-rated film.
Eric: If they keep going on the trend, you know.
Ben: Well I remember when everybody was like, "Well what's going to happen with this next film? The fifth one was PG-13, the next one could be R, then what after that?"
Ben: Then Part II! Part II is going to be rated X.
Andrew: Rated X.
Andrew: Well, you could make a lame joke about that now because of that naked stuff, but we'll talk about that in a little bit.
Ben: Oh, naked stuff?
Ben: You know I love naked stuff.
Preview Discussion: Harry Unconscious
Andrew: [laughs] Okay, so we then see these two really cool shots. I think these two shots may be my two favorite of the trailer. We see - let me switch it back to the slideshow for everybody listening on Ustream - we see Harry and he's unconscious, he's knocked out...
Matt: No, that's Ron.
Andrew: No, no, no. First, before Ron.
Matt: Oh, okay.
Andrew: Before Ron, we see Harry and he's laying there, you can tell they just came from London and I think this is after they...
Matt: After they Apparated.
Andrew: Yeah, after they Apparated.
Eric: Because that's just kind of...
Eric: It looks like he's seizing.
Andrew: Yeah, well I just wonder why he's knocked out? Maybe just because they were running in panic and then they Apparated, so you're sort of winded, I guess?
Ben: Or he stopped for a quick nap.
Micah: Yeah, don't they get chased down though as they're leaving the Ministry, aren't there a bunch of curses being fired at them by the people that they turned into?
Matt: Is that after the Ministry, though?
Micah: Yeah, yeah, as they're Apparating and trying to get away from the Ministry.
Micah: I though a bunch of Ministry officials are after them.
Matt: Yeah, a whole bunch of people.
Eric: Doesn't one of them grab them, and actually make it through with them to wherever they're going next and they have to...
Matt: Yeah. I think so actually.
Micah: Yeah, actually I think...
Andrew: This is probably when Harry gets Splinched.
Matt: No, when Ron gets Splinched.
Andrew: Well, but some people are saying - I guess Harry doesn't because he comes back. Yes, this is when Ron gets Splinched.
Eric: Look, all I know is that Harry has to get up soon or the fan girls are going to sit on him.
Andrew: Yeah so - okay so we see Harry and then we see - this is a great shot. This is another thing where, when I first saw the leaked version - in the leaked version of this there was a camera up to a screen, I thought Hermione was wearing red gloves because her hands just looked very red. And I was like, "That's nice! Hermione looks very nice with her red gloves and her nice dress." And then you see the hi-res trailer, and its blood! [laughs] It's like, whoa!
Matt: This is awesome.
Andrew: Hermione looks, if I may be so honest, fabulous. I mean, look at that dress.
Matt: Well, she just changed back from whoever she was supposed to portray in the Ministry of Magic.
Matt: So, those were the clothes that she wore.
Matt: That that woman wore.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah. So she looks great. And there's Ron in the background and Harry's leaning over him. What do you think is going on? Is Hermione facing someone, or do you think she's building a magical protection...
Matt: She's doing the charms and stuff...
Andrew: Yeah, to put them around the - That's pretty cool.
Ben: She's like ew, got blood on my hands.
Andrew: [laughs] Ewwie!
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: Ew. Well, she could wash those off pretty easily. I'm surprised she didn't do that first, but that is pretty gory. That's a decent amount of blood she's got on her hands there.
Matt: Well Ron's dying.
Ben: This is the 7th book, man.
Andrew: Anything can happen.
Ben: Blood is spilled
Matt: All bets are off.
Ben: All bets are off.
Preview Discussion: On Location
Andrew: It's a blood bath, like J.K. Rowling said. Then we see a picture, a shot of Ron peering around a corner in London, and that's nice. We get to see them on location there.
Andrew: And then there's another shot of Hermione. She's doing a quick look around her back. She's like [gasps]. She's looking behind her. She's in London.
Ben: Oh there she is with the red again.
Eric: It looks like Piccadilly, actually.
Andrew: Yeah, I think that's probably - we saw photos, paparazzi photos...
Matt: Yeah, that's her dress.
Andrew: ...from when they were filming these. Yeah, and then we have a frontward shot, or front shot looking at the trio. And Hermione's all panicked, and Harry's in the middle, and Ron's all the way in the back. And then it goes into - guys, if you have anything to discuss, feel free to stop me. I'm just going to keep running through these.
Matt: Mhm. What do you think about this scene though? I mean, what scene is this, when they're being chased by the Death Eaters?
Andrew: Yeah - no. This is right after they get out of the wedding.
Matt: Oh, I saw some other photos you were doing.
Andrew: Oh yeah, I just switched back.
Matt: The ones in the forest.
Andrew: Yeah the ones of the London streets, this is right after the wedding, right? I mean...
Matt: Yeah, yeah. This is when they're on Tottenham Court Road.
Preview Discussion: Frolicking in the Forest
Andrew: Yeah, yeah exactly. And then it gets into all the forest scenes, and it's interesting because Dan said just a couple weeks ago that for a good six months, all they were doing was filming were these running scenes in the forest. [laughs] And we do see a lot of these shots. And they're cool; they're shot well. They're very dark eerie shots and you know, they're just making a run for it. It's pretty funny.
Eric: We got a comment coming in through the Skype chat line from Jeremy of HPANA, and he says that Harry and Hermione are not using Polyjuice Potion in this trailer, but I don't know how that's exactly relevant at the moment because we know...
Eric: We know they cast Reg Cattermole or whatever so they will be using the Polyjuice Potion it's just...
Matt: They will use it in the movie because Hermione uses it to change into Bellatrix.
Eric: Right. We had that interview of her saying how fun it was...
Matt: We see the pictures.
Eric: Yeah. And we see the pictures. My bad. So I don't know what quote that was. Oh, I have a reply coming. Anyway, but go on.
Preview Discussion: Overall Views
Andrew: Yeah. So then - what else do we got here? I think that's pretty much it. That was the rest. We see a lot of the running through the forest, and then it wraps up. And that's it. So what did you guys think overall of this trailer? I mean, impressive? Micah Tannenbaum, speak to me. Speak to me honestly, open up your heart now.
Micah: Well I'm happy. Well, I was a little disappointed you didn't play the trailer as opposed picture by picture. You know the difficulty I have with pictures, but I don't know, I thought it was a good look into what we can expect and obviously there's a lot more that we haven't seen yet. And I know Eric had a little bit of an issue with that, but I'm happy with that kind of a preview. We're still a while away from this movie being released.
Eric: But if it stops here, is what I'm saying, I'll be happy. I mean...
Andrew: [laughs] No more trailers!
Eric: We already - all these new scenes, dude. We already have all these new scenes. We'll practically have almost seen the second film before the first one comes out in theatres.
Andrew: Well I think this is the last of the Part II stuff.
Andrew: They're going to start pushing Part I. They don't want to spoil any of the plot of Part II.
Eric: I don't care if it's Part I or Part II, it hasn't come out yet and it has no place being on our web.
Andrew: Are you about to cry?
Andrew: It's the holidays. Cheer up, it's the holidays.
Matt: Count to ten.
Eric: Well, I have a clarification from Jeremy. He says in the graveyard scene - remember they were under Polyjuice Potion when they see Bathilda and yet somehow she beckons them, and Harry feels like she knows who he really is.
Eric: But, yeah. So they're walking through the graveyard in this trailer, and it shows them as themselves. As opposed to - that's something that obviously is changed.
Matt: Right. Yeah.
Eric: Okay, so that's the insight. That's what makes sense.
Andrew: All right. Well, moving along. Ben, what do you think about this trailer? Are you impressed with it, I mean?
Ben: Yeah, I really am. I think that we can expect good things with this film, but I don't know, I kind of see where Eric's coming from where he doesn't want to be spoiled, but then you have to also remember that you make the choice to watch it, so...
Ben: ...you can't really get too upset at W.B.
Eric: Knowing that it exists is enough to upset me, okay. Watching it is something separate entirely.
Ben: Well you know they probably have the whole film that exists somewhere. There's a bunch of clips that exist.
Andrew: Yeah, I mean it's shot. Are you upset that it's shot? [laughs]
Matt: He's just upset that the last film is starting to coming out.
Eric: Dude - you guys - No - No! I'm not upset about that!
Ben: Whoa, whoa, whoa, Eric why are you so defensive?
Andrew: All right Eric...
Eric: You guys are always with me on this...
Andrew: I've had enough...
Eric: ...whenever I talk about this...
Andrew: No, no, no, listen...
Eric: ...you are always with me. I don't know why...
Andrew: A first look is fine. Listen, this is too off track. We're supposed to be celebrating the trailer.
Micah: Make it snow in the studio or something.
Matt: I know; that will calm him down.
Eric: Slowly, slowly.
Andrew: Anyway, enough of this, let me talk. Jesus.
Ben: Oh yeah, like you don't talk enough.
Andrew: [scoffs] I think this trailer is really good. You see the artistic difference in this film, and they have been hyping this up since the starting of filming. They have said that this is going to be a road movie- or Part I is going to be a road movie. I don't think we're going to see Hogwarts at all, at least in Part I of course, and I think that's great. Although I think it would be cool to maybe throw in a shot or two, go back to Hogwarts to see what's going on there while they're running around in the forest, but we don't know what we're going to see exactly. But I think cinematically this is really a time for the producers, the film makers to really shine, because now they can work with these out of studio, so to speak, these on location shoots and these on location scenes, and really make them special. I'm just - I am thrilled it is two parts.
Matt: It's great.
Andrew: Matt, how about you?
Matt: About the teaser?
Matt: Yeah, I got to say, I was teased. I think it was actually a pretty good teaser.
Ben: Give me more, yes.
Matt: I think maybe a little bit of the editing was a little choppy. But other than that I thought it was a great teaser, even it had from both parts in it. Do you think they probably put Part II parts in it because they didn't have some of the shots from the first film fully finished yet?
Listener Tweet: Extra Bits
Andrew: I don't know. Well yeah, I mean obviously the film's not finished yet, but I think overall this is just a preview. This is not specifically Part I; this is not specifically Part II, it's just an overall broad thing, you know? We have some tweets, we asked people to send in their feedback about the trailer. We wanted to know what did you like about the trailer? And we got some tweets, this first one is from joshboulton. He says:
"It looks like they've put lots of the extra book details, parents, graveyard, etc., in that wouldn't have made the cut if it was one film."
Andrew: And yeah, I agree. I mean, we're so lucky to have this in two parts now, because otherwise it just would've been - we would have been complaining.
Listener Tweet: Amazing and Bittersweet
Andrew: Got to send it off right. emma_849 says:
"It's amazing! - referring to the trailer - the line, 'If it's true, you don't stand a chance,' gave me chills. It's also a little bittersweet."
That was quite a cliff-hanger! That is a great way to set up the film as a whole: "You don't stand a chance."
Matt: It was kind of a little hard to follow what he was talking about, because while he was talking all those action sequences were going.
Andrew: It was a lot to comprehend, you say?
Matt: Yeah, definitely you have to see it at least a couple more times.
Micah: Maybe that's how the first movie ends.
Matt: [gasps] "You don't stand a chance."
Andrew: Oh, I hope not. Okay, let's listen to - let's listen to it.
Matt: Let's watch the trailer.
[Andrew plays the preview, to view it, click this link.]
Andrew: I wish I had this guy's voice.
[The preview continues]
[Preview cuts off prematurely]
Andrew: Oh, sorry! [laughs]
Eric: Who is that guy? Dude, who is that guy?
[Andrew continues the preview]
Matt: Yeah, get him to intro the show.
[The preview continues]
Andrew: It's so eerie!
[David Heyman starts speaking]
Andrew: We don't care about this part, we'll skip this.
Matt: Oh okay.
Andrew: Okay here we go, get ready guys.
Matt: Here we go.
[Andrew plays the preview again]
Andrew: [laughs] Quite eerie. By the way, I know you guys couldn't see it in the chance - in the chat. I said, let's listen to it. Sorry I couldn't bring it up.
Matt: Hey sorry, I didn't bring this up while we were talking about the teaser, but isn't it awesome that this is at the end of the trailer - or at the beginning - the clouds are actually moving away from you?
Matt: In every other trailer...
Andrew: You mentioned this, but what? Explain this again.
Matt: Yeah okay if you watch all the trailers, all the teaser trailers, and all the trailers for every Harry Potter film the clouds are approaching you with the graphic and then this is the only film where the storm clouds are actually moving away from you.
Eric: If that's true Matt...
Ben: You don't stand a chance...
Eric: ...that is the coolest thing ever.
Andrew: [laughs] Where is this in the trailer? I'll play it, I'll actually play it.
Matt: In the very beginning or at the very end with "Harry Potter."
Andrew: Wait this part right here? Oh this part, oh like you're flying through the clouds?
Matt: Away from the clouds.
Eric: Oh right.
Matt: Like its ending.
Andrew: Let's look at this real quick.
Matt: I'm telling you go watch.
Andrew: I'm having a hard time grasping the importance of this but, okay here we go, full screen.
[Andrew plays the end of the preview again]
Andrew: Wow! Wow! [laughs]
Matt: I thought it was awesome.
Andrew: I just - I'm confused but okay. So that's our thoughts about the trailer. How many more trailers do you guys think there are going to be? By the way, Matt you're absolutely right people in the chat are going absolutely crazy right now. They're like: "Oh my gosh!"
Ben: For Eric's sake I only hope there's a couple more.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: So we get this preview on the Half-Blood Prince DVD. We'll get - I think we'll get a Deathly Hallows: Part I teaser trailer, then maybe one or two theatrical trailers?
Matt: This is going to be really interesting because they've got two parts to this film.
Andrew: I think we'll have a teaser and a theatrical for each part so we're looking at four more trailers I think.
Matt: And then 3,000 more TV spots.
Eric: And another 100 clips from the movie itself.
Matt: And then a documentary about behind the scenes that include every other missing scene that we haven't seen yet.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Matt: And then the movie will come out.
Listener Tweet: Future Trailers
Micah: I think this tayfran person asks a good question related to the trailers. She or he said:
"This one is all about the Hallows, what about the Horcruxes? Could future trailers focus on those since we had no mention of them."
Matt: Well each trailer is probably themed - like the last film.
Eric: That's a good point because we - because the Horcruxes took a backseat in Movie 6. So seeing them - or not seeing them in Movie 7 kind of very interesting because they are the key to defeating Voldemort.
Matt: Well they just did it in this teaser; in the trailer it may be all about the Horcruxes.
Andrew: Well yeah we remember about the Half-Blood Prince trailer that all was about Tom Riddle and that was a great trailer, very eerie, very dark.
Matt: Yeah then they had the fire trailer, the one all about fire.
Andrew: Oh right.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: Oh yeah that was funny, "fire!" So yeah I'm hoping for one more teaser trailer. I think it is a lot to throw the Horcruxes and the Deathly Hallows into one trailer. Because that's a lot of...
Ben: Yeah most people are going to be like, "Huh?"
Andrew: Yeah because you've got to explain one and then be like: "by the way there's another really crazy in depth story line going on here."
Andrew: So let's talk about - by the way since we're in the middle of this break right now I just want to say thanks to everyone joining us on Ustream; it's wonderful to be speaking to you all on this wonderful Wednesday evening...
Matt: We are going 24 hours a day...
David Yates on the Nude Scenes
Andrew: ...in the Holiday season. 1100 of you listening, that's great, thank you so much for listening to us tonight. Deathly Hallows - we see a couple of unique scenes in the Deathly Hallows books - in the book. This new interview, there was this new interview a couple weeks ago with director David Yates with La Vibra, and originally this didn't get picked up because it's a foreign - news source and they - it was like a Spanish article or some foreign language, Snitch Seeker, another Potter fansite, picked it up, they noticed it, and a lot of stuff is revealed. David Yates revealed, I'm going to quote him right now - he's talking about nude scenes in Deathly Hallows, and he says:
"Well Dan has appeared nude in the past but there are a couple of scenes in the new film where he will undress but we're still thinking about how we present it. It's a fascinating scene in which Harry and Ron are trying to kill a Horcrux, he tries to defend himself and creates an image of Voldemort's soul and there are a series of images between which are Harry and Hermione kissing and embracing and we will create something very sexy and very intriguing to bring about the reaction of Rupert whom Hermione is in love with."
Matt: Are they going to be naked in bed?
Andrew: No, I hope not. Well naturally...
Eric: And they didn't say that she'd be naked, I assume that she'll be wearing a nice lingerie at least.
Matt: A nightgown.
Andrew: [laughs] Something...
Matt: It's going to be red.
Andrew: ...something sexy from Victoria's Secret.
Eric: Yeah, yeah, and Harry will be nude, you know.
Andrew: Okay, well anyway, so - and then we also learn that there's a scene in King's Cross Station where Harry almost dies and sees Dumbledore. In that scene, he will also be naked.
Micah: I bet Dumbledore likes that.
Eric: Look, that's the question! That's the question I have, Micah. Do you think Dumbledore will also be naked? Because how else could he be?
Andrew: Oh no! No!
Eric: No, look. Get this. Okay, if Harry's naked, and Dumbledore's just talking to him randomly about what's going on in his head like, "We're in your mind, Harry, and you're nude."
Eric: Seriously, the only way it won't be creepy is if everyone in that...
Andrew: Right. I get what you're saying. It'll go like this: He'll see Harry naked, and Dumbledore will go, "Will it make you more comfortable if I took my clothes off as well?" [laughs]
Eric: Yeah, exactly. It's like, "Shit, I'm walking around King's Cross without clothes on, and there's Dumbledore, and he's..."
Andrew: That's very inappropriate. Eric, grow up.
Eric: ...straight out...
Ben: [as Dumbledore] "It is our bare skin, Harry."
Eric: So what is this King's Cross - I don't know.
Andrew: That's funny. Well...
Matt: He is naked in King's Cross in the book.
Andrew: First, let's talk about the press.
Eric: Well, doesn't he find clothes, though?
Andrew: Hold on.
Andrew: Hold on a second. We'll get to that in a second.
Matt: Maybe Dumbledore robes him.
Andrew: All right you two, hold on a second. So, the press picked this up. They - because, you know, a very sexy scene in Harry Potter. Oh my God! So there were a lot of press articles from The Telegraph, I believe The AP, lots of local news sites across the country, and it's a shame that it's probably getting a little blown a out of proportion because what we're reading is a translated article. It's a rough translation. David Yates may have not exactly meant these exact wording. Although...
Ben: And it's from La Vibra. [laughs].
Andrew: But I mean it's not like [laughs] - It's not like it was made up. Let's start with the scene that - the Horcrux scene. I think it's a clever idea. It'll drive Ron crazy. I have a hard time seeing Rupert lose his mind watching this happening, but I don't know. Eric, what do you think of this in particular? Ron watching a naked Harry, and who knows what Hermione's going to be wearing.
Eric: It's brilliant, because I feel it was in the book. I mean, I feel like it's really a way to interpret what was in the book, that Harry - I mean Ron is seeing them in an intimate moment, you know, of them together. And that's obviously one of his deeper fears, I guess. That they'll abandon him.
Eric: So that's - I think it's essential. That scene I defend him being naked in, and even in King's Cross I do. I just - I really wonder how they're going to do it, but, you know, I'm excited.
Andrew: Ben, what's your spin on this?
Ben: I don't know. I don't really have a spin.
Andrew: Well, what do you think of it? I mean...
Eric: He's tweeting about his hair, Andrew. He just tweeted that his hair was redone.
Andrew: Micah, how about you?
Matt: Stop stalking Ben, Eric!
Andrew: While Ben gathers his thoughts.
Micah: Well, I mean I think I expected it for King's Cross because that's explicitly stated in the book. I don't think it's as explicitly stated with the scene, you know, when they're out in the forest...
Micah: ...between Harry and Hermione, and I don't understand the need for him to be naked in that scene, and if one is naked, the question obviously comes up will the other be?
Micah: I mean, you might as well be equal opportunity.
Ben: Well, I think the whole...
Ben: ...there's like a symbolism thing going on here where Harry dies, like sort of pseudo-dies...
Ben: ...and he's naked because you come into the world naked, and he's supposedly - in this moment, he's like completely open to the world...
Ben: ...and he's learning everything he's supposed to know, and he has that one final moment with Dumbledore before he goes back to finish off good ol' Voldy.
Matt: With clothes.
Eric: I mean...
Ben: With clothes.
Eric: Yeah, is Dumbledore just going to be cool with that?
Eric: Like Harry's walking around naked. "Hi, Harry."
Ben: Well, something tells me that I don't think the nudity, or lack thereof, is really going to be the focus of that scene.
Eric: No, but still.
Andrew: Well not for you! [laughs]
Ben: Well, okay. I mean, for sure.
Eric: Well, I remember the bathtub scene in Goblet of Fire. Remember, it was like "Oh my God! Harry has his shirt off!"
Andrew: That was so funny. Because that was the first time - "Oh my God! Dan Radcliffe, a child superstar, without his shirt on!"
Ben: And then he went and did Equus, and everyone was like, "Oh!"
Matt: "Oh never mind!"
Andrew: That's nothing.
Eric: You're no longer special.
Ben: And so really, it isn't anything we haven't seen before.
Andrew: Well, that's what I'm thinking, yeah.
Matt: It's old news.
Andrew: And David Yates kind of compares it to that. He says, "Dan has appeared nude in the past," and I'm not sure if he was referring to Potter films or Equus.
Ben: Well, let's get this straight. He may appear nude-ish, but he's not going to be baring it all like Equus.
Andrew: But how do you know, Ben?
Ben: Okay, when's the - they usually don't have those shots in Harry - in films, typically.
Andrew: You're absolutely right. [laughs] Unless they want to go for Rated R, and that they would want to avoid, so I think it's a pretty big given.
Matt: Well, a rear shot is PG-13.
Andrew: Is it?
Eric: Yeah, and then...
Ben: What about a side shot? What if you get like a side/rear action going on?
Matt: I don't know the exact details on what makes an "R" rating, but I think full frontal is probably "R."
Eric: Yeah, remember guys that there's a group of parents that rates all these movies.
Ben: A group of parents?
Eric: Yeah, isn't it Andrew?
Andrew: Yeah. It would be funny if it was full frontal, but Dan was artistically covering up his lower half with his leg or something you would see in, like...
Eric: Like Dumbledore...
Andrew: Not that I read it - I'm above this - but Playboy or something.
Eric: I don't know what you're saying.
Andrew: Ben knows what I'm talking about.
Micah: There's - never mind.
Andrew: Micah, final word on this topic, please.
Micah: No - no, I think you covered all the topics that need to be covered. And uncovered.
Eric: We got word from the chat - full frontal flaccid is PG-13. [laughs]
Ben: Full front...
Matt: Full frontal flaccid?
Andrew: No, that is not true!
Eric: Not true at all.
Ben: That is a lie.
Eric: Chat said that.
Eric: I'm just reading what it says in the chat. I knew it was "X".
Ben: I love that word - flaccid.
Andrew: Let's not say it again, please. Please. [laughs]
Ben: Are we not allowed to say "flaccid"?
Andrew: I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm sorry - I've got Harry right here next to me. It's okay, buddy. It's okay - we're covering you. And Dumbledore. Dumbledore's, "yeah".
Matt: Nice and flaccid.
Ben: Oh, guys, guys, guys.
Andrew: Okay, so enough with that, fellas - that's still a year away. Let's focus now - Matt could you do me a favor? Could you go get the Half-Blood Prince DVD for me?
Andrew: Let's talk about the Half-Blood Prince DVD. In the U.S. and the U.K. it was on store shelves this week. It hit U.K. stores...
Ben: Andrew, did you rush out to get your midnight copy?
Andrew: No, not at midnight. There were Blockbuster midnight releases.
Ben: Oh, Blockbuster's doing anything right now. [laughs] They're going under.
Micah: Yeah, the one in my town just closed.
Andrew: Yeah, they're all closing. They will not be having midnight releases for Movie 7. [laughs] I don't think they'll be around by then. At all.
Ben: Ah, let's have a moment of silence for Blockbuster.
Andrew: [laughs] That's right. No, you know what? I take that back. Blockbuster's a great company and...
Matt: It had a good run.
Andrew: They had a good run. And they still have - they still got stores open. That's beside the point.
Matt: It's all about Redbox.
Andrew: Let's talk about the Half-Blood Prince DVD.
Eric: Redbox for the win.
Andrew: It was released - Matt, can you do me one more - never mind, they're right here.
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