MuggleCast 187 Transcript
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Micah: Because poof goes the owl, this is MuggleCast Episode 187 for December the 21st, 2009.
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Andrew: All right everyone, welcome to MuggleCast Episode 187. Happy holidays to you all! You know, I said it last week, but I want to extend the greeting again this week. And we're joined this week by Mikey, Micah and Laura and Eric! Hello everyone, happy holidays friends!
Laura: Hey! Happy holidays!
Andrew: Happy holidays.
Mikey: Happy holidays!
Andrew: So good to be speaking to you all. And we were just speaking about this before the start of the show. Laura has turned 21. Happy birthday Laura.
Laura: Awww, thank you.
Andrew: Now you can divulge all those secrets we've been wanting to hear for years and years.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: Oh, I don't know that this is the appropriate forum for that, but...
Eric: Yeah, you guys have three other podcasts you can do that on.
Andrew: Fair enough, fair enough. Well, Laura, how was your birthday?
Laura: It was fabulous.
Laura: I went a lot of places, we'll just leave it at that.
Andrew: All right. It's probably best to leave it there.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Mikey: I want to know more!
Andrew: Well, you know what? Even if Laura was going to tell us stories, I would say, "Laura, I'm sorry, there is no time because we have so much to talk about this week."
Mikey: We do!
Andrew: We've got tons of news to catch up on, tons of e-mails, and we're going to get back to Chapter-by-Chapter and oh, so much more. I'm Andrew Sims.
Eric: I'm Eric Scull.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
Mikey: And I'm Mikey B.
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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum, we're approaching the end of the year here, news is slowing down, but we've still got plenty of things to talk about. Isn't that right?
Micah: Yes, that's right.
Andrew: What's in the news Micah?
Eric: Slowly falling apart.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
News: Potter Twitter Achievement
Micah: Well, I don't know if you've heard, but Harry Potter was the top movie trend on Twitter for 2009. On Tuesday, Twitter released their top trends, and one of the categories was movies, and Harry Potter made it to the top of the list. Not really a surprise.
Eric: I'm surprised that it wasn't Twilight.
Andrew: Well yeah, I kind of - [laughs] I've got to be honest...
Eric: I'd like to know how close they were. Because they were close, right? Twilight was right behind it.
Andrew: It was number two, yeah.
Andrew: Well New Moon technically was the term. Yeah, that's pretty impressive, I guess - I don't know, I guess we're in the Harry Potter time, like I wasn't as focused on Twitter, because I don't remember seeing it much, but yeah, that - that's great, that's great news. It was very cool that Twitter made up all those different lists, you know.
Micah: Well they've got nothing better to do.
Eric: Well they're trying to look legitimate. Google does that sort of thing sometimes, so.
Andrew: Right, right.
Mikey: Well, well I was going to say - Harry Potter, I don't think necessarily was a movie trend, because Harry Potter would cover all big Harry Potter news as it broke...
Eric: That's a good point.
Mikey: ...because New Moon would be only around the movie itself, and when you look at Twitter trends, it's just, you know, how many people are saying "Harry Potter." You know, every big piece of news that happened this year would've had the "Harry Potter," "Harry Potter," "Harry Potter," and there was a lot of big news this year, I think.
Andrew: Yeah, you're probably right, I think.
Micah: It'd be interesting to see, did MuggleCast contribute to that? You know, we trended on Twitter last week.
Andrew: We did. Surprisingly.
Andrew: Well, if they had a "Top Podcast" trend list, I bet we would've been...
Micah: We would've.
Andrew: Micah, what else is going on in the news?
News: Half-Blood Prince Community Screening
Micah: Well last weekend Dan Radcliffe and David Barron - and I think it was supposed to be David Yates, though...
Andrew: Right, but him and Mikey caught the same thing.
Micah: Yeah, apparently.
Andrew: David Yates was sick.
Mikey: Well me and Yates were hanging out, and it just - I...
Micah: In Kentucky?
Mikey: You know, I think I actually got sick from him, what can I say? [laughs] Yes, he had come down to Kentucky and we were hanging out, what can I say?
Micah: [laughs] But they hosted this Blu-ray Half-Blood Prince screening, and Andrew - this was last weekend, I think...
Micah: ...you actually participated in this? You wrote up a review?
Andrew: Yeah, yeah. Well I mean, I - yeah, I actually ended up not writing a review, I just linked everyone to my notes.
Micah: You said you were going to write a review.
Andrew: I did. But I didn't. [laughs] I linked everyone to my notes instead, but this was a really cool - we've been talking about it for a while, we've talked about it, you know, coming up, previously - on previous episodes. Basically what happened was, anyone who had a Blu-ray copy was able to watch the movie at the same exact time that David Yates - or sorry, Dan Radcliffe and David Barron were watching it, and they were talk - they would talk about the movie, so it was like a live movie commentary. It was really cool - it was a lot of fun. They were answering - people could also submit questions and so they were answering questions the whole time. Yeah, I mean, it was just a fun time. We learned some cool things, I put some notes down. Dan said that his favorite film is still Order of the Phoenix, and he says it's because of the relationship between Harry and Sirius. Dan is like - I'm starting to think he's in love with Gary Oldman.
Andrew: Because he always...
Laura: Well that's something we have in common.
Mikey: Who doesn't love Gary Oldman?
Andrew: Yeah. Well no, he's a great actor and it's funny to see Dan talk about how much he loves Gary Oldman. But, we also learned that - somebody asked why Dumbledore's funeral was taken out of Half-Blood Prince and David Barron, who is the producer, said that it just felt like we were suffering from multiple endings. And when people saw that they were like, "Uh, I think that's kind of a B.S. answer."
Micah: Wrong answer.
Andrew: Yeah, I don't know. It just all comes down to time.
Micah: Well, can I say - I actually watched Half-Blood Prince over the weekend. It's the second time that I've seen it, and when I saw the ending to the movie, particularly Dumbledore's death - because I had seen this in the Google doc that you put here and I have to agree with probably what some of the fans said and that is, I did feel that the end of Half-Blood Prince was lacking something.
Micah: After watching it again.
Andrew: I was...
Micah: Yeah, I think they could have done a little more with it.
Mikey: I agree with you 100 percent. It was definitely lacking something. I've probably watched it about five or six times since I got it, because it's on my iPhone and everything now, but...
Eric: Oh wow.
Mikey: Yeah, it's all over the place with me now because I got the nice, big edition.
Andrew: Do you have it in your bathroom? I have it in my bathroom.
Mikey: It's not playing. I don't have a digital photo frame playing it nonstop.
Andrew: Oh. That's actually exactly what I did. I rigged my thing so it just plays videos.
Eric: I thought - it's interesting too that - I read your recap Andrew, or your notes, thanks for the bullet points there. But, yeah it was fun, I felt like I was on a call.
Andrew: Yeah, so I hope they do it again because this was the first time we really got a commentary from Dan Radcliffe. My only issue was, they didn't talk about the actual film as much as I'd hoped to because people were asking questions that weren't exactly about Half-Blood Prince. Dan and David would occasionally interrupt a question to be like, "Oh, this scene right here," you know - they would say something cool about the scene. It wasn't a true commentary but they were still talking throughout it. It was fun, it was really cool technology, and I'm glad they did it.
Eric: You'd think it'd be nice to get the trio though, commenting on the movies.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah. And this is the closest we've gotten to that so far. What else Micah? Onward!
News: Deathly Hallows Battle Scene
Micah: Well, we have a little bit of news here on Deathly Hallows. Exactly - Tom Felton was making the rounds for the Half-Blood Prince DVD and so he was talking a lot about the final film. One of the interviews he did was with the Wall Street Journal, and another one he did was with MTV and Dan Radcliffe also did an interview with MTV. And we got a little bit of insight into the final battle scene. Tom was quoted as saying it was western style between good and evil, and...
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: I thought that was funny. [as a cowboy] This town ain't big enough for the both of us!
Micah: Yeah exactly!
Andrew: [as a cowboy]Get out of here!
Andrew: [as a cowboy] Draw!
[Laura and Mikey laugh]
Andrew: Western style...
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah exactly!
[Laura and Mikey laugh]
Andrew: It's going to be like that, western style. Stick 'em up! Anyway...
Micah: And he also talked about Dan being on set kind of bruised up and battered and beaten down and how, I guess, it's going to be weird seeing these films two years from now.
Micah: Because what they are filming now won't be seen until 2011 and how kind of weird that's going to be for them.
Andrew: Yeah, that is...
Andrew: That is weird. They are going to - they may look completely different. Tom's going to stop bleaching his hair!
Eric: Tom won't have any hair.
Andrew: Well, you know they've mentioned that. They're very concerned about - and they take good care of Tom's hair, and everyone else's hair who they have to bleach, but I keep hearing lately about these interviews. In these interviews, Tom talks about how much he hates bleaching his hair, because [laughs] its killing it!
Eric: [laughs] Yeah.
Andrew: So, he may be bald.
Eric: Yeah, but that's what I liked reading most about, in these articles is, him talking about Dan, and how, basically he's like the whole set - you know, everybody on set - looks at Dan and it's like - he says something about that that embodies the mood that they're in because of how intense Dan is getting.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah. It's really cool.
Andrew: It must be a very odd feeling to know you only have a couple months left, acting - becoming Harry Potter. If I was Dan, or the rest of them, I'd be sad I wasn't going to be those people anymore. It would be the last time. You know?
Micah: Yeah. And Tom...
Eric: Two more rides coming, in the theme park.
[Mikey and Andrew laugh]
Micah: Yeah. But Tom was talking about the filming with the adult actors as opposed to - I guess you can't really call them child actors anymore, but with the trio and all the other people...
Micah: ...at Hogwarts. Now he's going to be spending some time filming with Helena Bonham Carter, and Ralph Fiennes, and probably Jason Isaacs. So he gets a little bit of a different taste for, you know, more seasoned actors, I guess you could call it. So, he said he was really looking forward to that.
Eric: That is interesting.
Andrew: Well good for them. It's looking exciting. I'm re-reading book seven again right now, and it's a nice refresher because now we're getting all this movie material, and...
Mikey: It's nice to revisit it.
Andrew: You got to refresh your mind.
Mikey: It's nice to revisit it.
Andrew: Just like it's nice to revisit you, Mikey.
Mikey: Oh I know. Wait, what happened, what? Anyway...
Andrew: Go on Micah.
Micah: Speaking of revisiting...
Micah: ...the older movies anyway.
Andrew: Nice transition.
Mikey: I know.
News: Ultimate Editions Released
Micah: One thing that got looked over really with our live show last week on Half-Blood Prince was that Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets came out with Ultimate Editions, and I don't know who here owns them. I don't. I know Andrew probably is the only one. You want to do a little bit of a mini review on these DVDS?
Micah: Just kind of give people a taste of what they can expect.
Andrew: Yeah, I mean, it's not so much that we overlooked it last week, it's that there was so much other stuff to talk about that it was just like, let's just hold off. But, is anyone else planning on getting them? Maybe asking for them for Christmas?
Laura: Mm, no.
Mikey: It's on my Christmas list.
Eric: I mean they're only $29.99 which shocks the heck out of me.
Andrew: Yeah, it's pretty cheap.
Eric: I mean, my DVDs themselves are actually falling apart, of those two movies. I should probably...
Andrew: Well now is a good time to - yeah. Yeah, but I mean, basically, the reason you buy these are for each part of the documentary. The Creating the World of Harry Potter documentary. It's an eight part documentary, there's one part on each Ultimate Edition, so with Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets we got the first two parts. Really, really in depth look at...
Eric: How long are they?
Andrew: They were both over an hour.
Andrew: The Chamber of Secrets one was longer than an hour. So when it's all said and done, we're going to have about a ten hour documentary about the making of Harry Potter! Which is incredible, I think!
Laura: That is very cool.
Andrew: Yeah, and what's really also nice is how they're all packaged. They're hard bound boxes, each comes with a full color book, lots of nice pictures, these over-sized solid trading cards. It's just a nice collector's edition, and as I said in my review on MuggleNet, I'm really looking forward to having all eight and sitting right next to the books. It's just a great thing to look at and have on display. It's a beautiful collection, so overall I would definitely recommend these as good holiday presents.
Mikey: Andrew, what's the difference between the Blu-ray versions and the DVD versions of the Ultimate Editions?
Mikey: They're identical?
Andrew: Other than these being on - yeah, and the documentary is on the Blu-ray too, I think. But not all footage is HD, especially when they pull interviews from the Sorcerer's Stone/Chamber of Secrets days.
Eric: So wait, is there an Ultimate Edition Blu-ray?
Mikey: Yes, there is. That's the one I...
Eric: It's not four discs though, is it?
Andrew: No, it is. It's the same exact thing, but it's just Blu-ray. Yeah, overall, very good collector's items. If you need the DVDs again, definitely go for these Ultimate Editions and once you have all eight oh, ah! It's just beautiful. It will be beautiful.
Mikey: Right there on your bookshelf, Andrew?
Andrew: Right there on my bookshelf.
Eric: Wait, you did talk about - on the last show, on the live show - you said about the DVD games and stuff. Are they still on there? Is it an exact copy, do you know?
Andrew: It comes with all the original DVD special features, I believe. I think. So, yeah. The price isn't too bad.
MuggleNet.com's Ultimate Edition Sweepstakes
Micah: Speaking of those Ultimate DVDs, I just wanted to plug something real fast. MuggleNet is doing an Ultimate Edition Sweepstakes.
Andrew: That's right.
Micah: For those of you who don't know, you can go onto MuggleNet.com. There's a little ad in the top right hand corner that you can click on. The cool thing about it is the grand prize for whoever wins this is a brand new Blu-ray player and then both Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets on Ultimate Edition Blu-ray.
Andrew: So enter. Enter the contest.
Micah: Yeah, and then there's also three first place prizes after that.
Micah: I mean, it's worth entering, I think, man. If I could enter it I would.
Listener Tweet: Rupert's Audition?
Andrew: Oh definitely. A couple of quick feedback items we got through Twitter; alliesmom25 said:
"Thought that we were getting Rupert's original audition tape on 'Sorcerer's Stone' Ultimate. Didn't see it. Documentaries were great though."
It may have been not on there, I'm not sure, I haven't really done a completely thorough look.
Eric: That's a good story that I know we don't have time for, but just Rupert submitting to Newsround's Lizo's for the audition...
Eric: ...for the casting call.
Laura: Yeah, that's a good story.
Eric: He's told it on several interviews but it's really good.
Listener Tweet: Xeno Lovegood
Andrew: Yeah he says it on the documentary too. One other tweet; edwardsa says:
"Ultimate Editions were awesome! There's totally a shot of Xenophilius Lovegood in the 'Chamber of Secrets' fourth disc, the documentary. It's awesome."
So yeah, we got one new piece of Movie 7 footage and it was a behind-the-scenes shot of Xenophilius Lovegood. So cool stuff all around. Definitely recommend the documentary. I mean I just, I just get all giddy thinking of a 10 hour Harry Potter documentary by the time it's all done. [laughs] Woo! That's big!
Mikey: Yeah it is.
Andrew: That's big stuff.
Mikey: That's an all day event.
Andrew: Yep. One other item of news, Micah what is it?!
News: Epic Win
Micah: Well, we won.
Eric: We won?
Laura: What did we win Micah?
Andrew: Can we go home?
Micah: We won a new Blu-ray - no...
Micah: We won at the 2009 Podcast Awards in the Best Entertainment Category, so thank you to everybody who went out there and voted for us. I know Eric was there live on Skype and he accepted the award for us.
Mikey: In costume, don't forget that. He was in costume.
Micah: No, that's his regular clothes.
Mikey: Oh yeah I forgot.
Eric: Yeah I don't know what you're talking about, I just - no - it was good fun, and thank you. Yeah, I didn't get to thank - he had sent out this promo material and I don't think I got to thank everybody who listened and everything because it was question time at that point, but thanks to everyone who voted for us, for sure, and all our listeners and stuff...
Eric: ...just officially.
Andrew: We really appreciate it.
Andrew Called Out
Eric: And we actually just got noticed - we got mentioned, on The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack this week. They were our...
Andrew: Yeah, are they serious?
Eric: Yeah, they actually invited you on their show to defend your honor, to defend MuggleCast's honor...
Andrew: What do you mean, defend it?
Eric: ...to prove...
Andrew: What do I have to do?
Eric: That's what they said - they're making accusations that we're conspiring against the U.S. government. They're trying to shut us down because they think that we stuffed the ballot box, they think that we cheat.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Micah: No, that would be another one of our shows, where we would be considered U.S. conspirators.
Andrew: Well, was he serious?
Eric: No, he was serious about the invite...
Eric: He actually was serious about the invite...
Andrew: ...that's really nice.
Eric: So you should probably go check it out...
Andrew: Okay, well, maybe I'll e-mail them. I've heard of Jay and Jack. It's a really good Lost podcast, if you're a fan of Lost...
Eric: It is, I used to listen all the time.
Andrew: Yeah, I did too. I stopped watching Lost because I got really far behind in the episodes. But yeah, they do a good show.
Eric: They were our fellow nominees for the Best Entertainment category so...
Eric: ...they were a little miffed.
Andrew: Sure, I would love to hear them talk about that. I'll definitely listen to the episode and maybe I'll go on there and explain that we are innocent! Until proven guilty of course...
Andrew: Okay, so last week on episode 186 - that's all the news, thank you, Micah.
Micah: You're welcome.
Andrew: You do a fabulous job as always. Happy Holidays to you.
Micah: Thank you.
Eric: That's beautiful, Andrew.
Micah: Happy Hanukkah.
Andrew: Episode one-eight - oh yeah, Happy Hanukkah to you Micah, sorry.
Micah: Merry Christmas to you.
Andrew: Thank you, thank you. Happy Kwanzaa, Laura.
Eric: What is Laura? Some Eastern religion? What?
Micah: Don't you celebrate Ramadan or something?
Andrew: We're not making fun of any holidays, just for the record...
Andrew: We say happy holidays to everyone. So anyway, Episode 186, it was all about the Deathly Hallows trailer. But Laura and Mikey were not on last week's show so we wanted to get their thoughts about it.
Mikey and Laura's View on the Trailer
Andrew: Mikey, what do you think about the trailer? I'm hearing a sigh.
Mikey: You know, I was actually - it's one of those things where the first trailer comes out and you're always so excited. I don't know. I'm excited and scared, because it is coming to an end...
Andrew: Right, but did you like the preview?
Mikey: Yeah, I did, I did. But I always like the previews and I think I always work myself up...
Mikey: ...and then I'm let down at some point...
Mikey: But I really like the preview and I think this one - I think it's because it's a bigger story ark almost...
Mikey: I think it's going to be...
Andrew: The best one yet?
Mikey: The best one yet.
Mikey: I really do. I hope it is.
Andrew: Me too.
Mikey: I hoping. It's a two-parter, you're going to be - I just hope it's not like Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3 where it's like, it really is part one and part two. And you're just like, "I just wasted two and a half hours of my life just to get to the second half."
Eric: Please don't mention those movies ever again.
Mikey: But I'm just saying I really hope it doesn't like come up anywhere near that.
Andrew: Well hopefully it's the best two-part Harry Potter.
[Mikey and Laura laugh]
Mikey: I agree with you. I hope it's the best two-part Harry Potter And you know what, I'll almost make the bet that it is going to be the best two-part Harry Potter we've ever had.
Andrew: I think I'll put money down on that too. Laura, what did you think about it?
Laura: I really liked it. I mean, I think it's clear that it's a very preliminary-type preview. But I thought it was very mysterious and I think particularly for people who haven't read the books, it's going to kind of come out of left field and they're not really going to know what's going on. But I don't...
Laura: ...think that's a bad thing. I really loved how, at the end of the trailer, you just hear, "You don't stand a chance". I just thought that was great.
Andrew: Yeah. I thought that was a really bad-ass cliff-hanger.
Laura: Yeah, it got me really excited to see more stuff from the movie.
Muggle Mail: Nude Scenes in Deathly Hallows
Andrew: We have some e-mails in response to last week's live show. Just some comments about our discussion last week. The first one comes from Lisa, 29, of North Carolina, and she talks about the naked Dan Radcliffe at King's Cross, which of course, was a very hot topic last week.
"Hello. First off, fabulous show everyone. Okay, so I was listening to the last episode while you were discussing the nude scenes coming up in 'Deathly Hallows.' You were wondering about how Dumbledore would react to a naked Harry Potter. Well, in the book, he was naked, but he realized this and wished he had some robes and on a seat appeared a set of robes which he put on prior to seeing Dumbledore. So most likely they'll be doing that in the movie. Also in the other scene, Harry took off all of his clothes to jump into the frozen pond to retrieve the sword. So maybe that is what they were referring to.
Eric: I love this. Rupert's hand is going to come down, grab Dan out of the pool...
Eric: ...and he's going to be like, "Dude, you're naked, ew." And he's going to pull his hand away.
[Laura and Andrew laugh]
Eric: Like what was he thinking? Jumping in that freezing cold lake alone? Man.
Andrew: I don't know. But in regards to the first point that Lisa brought up, I think she's right. We didn't totally clear that up on the last episode. In regards to her second point - Harry taking off his clothes to jump in the pond - the only reason that I can think that that won't be the case is David Yates specifically said it's going to be this vision that Rupert - Ron has when he grabs - or tries to destroy the Horcrux.
Eric: Well, he didn't specifically say that that was the only other time. Because didn't he say right before that there were several times? Like several scenes?
Eric: Because I think...
Eric: ...in the book, Harry actually does get naked to jump in the lake. And then ends up nearly dying...
Laura: Right, he does.
Eric: ...of hypothermia.
Andrew: Right, so...
Eric: It'd be silly if they film...
Andrew: So maybe that'll happen too, you were saying.
Andrew: Additionally. Yeah. So, yeah.
Micah: I thought we were just joking about the whole Dumbledore thing.
Andrew: I think we were.
Eric: With the naked...
Eric: It's straight out of Potter Puppet Pals, really.
Andrew: We were absolutely referring to Dumbledore getting excited about Harry being naked. That part was a joke!
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Eric: Well it was weird! It's just - sitting in King's Cross, walking around King's Cross nude is kind of - doesn't translate to film that well.
Andrew: Laura, could you read the next e-mail?
Muggle Mail: Griphook
Laura: Sure. The next one comes from Shoshanna, age 20, from New Mexico. She writes:
"Hey, MuggleCasters. In Episode 168 you were debating whether Verne Troyer or Warwick Davis played Griphook. I just watched the 'Sorcerer's Stone' Ultimate Edition special features and this is what I found out. In movie one, Warwick Davis plays the scary goblin bank-teller that says, 'And does Mr. Harry Potter have his key?', and Verne Troyer plays the goblin that takes Harry and Hagrid to the vault, and says, 'Lamp please, key please.' In movies 7 and 8, Warwick Davis will play..."
Let me say that again.
"In Movies 7 and 8, Warwick Davis will play Griphook. You'll probably receive a ton of these e-mails, but I hope this helps. Eric is the best. Cheers, Shoshanna."
Andrew: I think that's the definitive answer.
Andrew: And if someone else wants to e-mail, then whatever...
Eric: Didn't you reference that exact interview to say that they credit Warwick Davis as playing Griphook?
Andrew: In the documentary, they do. Yeah, in the documentary they do. On the Ultimate Editions. So - and one last e-mail about the trailer today. Mikey, could you read that one?
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