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MuggleCast EP18 Transcript (continued)



Molly's Role in the Order


Kevin: What? Now, now this is a good question. What is her specific job within the Order?

Laura: Hmmm.

Ben: That is a really good question.

Andrew: Keeping the house clean. Seriously. Definitely. I mean...

Ben: I don't know, maybe we underestimate her real...her position. Maybe we think, "Well, she couldn't help out that much," but...I don't know, she could be sort of a powerful wizard...

Laura: Well, I think she does a lot of manning the Headquarters and such.

Ben: Witch...

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: Yeah, I think she's like a protector.

Laura: Yeah, basically.

Kevin: Especially for...I know that a lot of people comment on her as a protector of Harry.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: Because she, she is always there for Harry and she's the one who actually allows him to stay at the house, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: It seems like it's her authority to let him stay and not Arthur's, you know?

Ben: Right.

Kevin: I'm sure they discuss it but it seems like she's the runner of the house, isn't it?

Laura: Yeah, definitely.

Ben: Yeah, and what she says goes.

Andrew: Yeah, I look forward to seeing her reaction to finding out the truth about Snape.

Laura: Yeah, me too.

Andrew: And hearing her talk to Harry for the first time. Hopefully, she'll make a good appearance in HP 7.

Kevin: But...do you think she's going to play a major role?

Andrew: No, just a side role, like...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: One of the bystander roles.

Micah: Wait, wasn't she there? Wasn't she there?

Andrew: Where?

Micah: After it all happened?

Andrew: Oh at the funeral?

Micah: In the hospital wing...

Andrew: Oh, I'm not...

Laura: Yes she was, she was there in the hospital, but we didn't really...yeah, I mean she was...

Kevin: Get a reaction.

Laura: You know, she was...

Micah: Okay.

Laura: ...upset, but no one's really...we haven't really seen too many of the characters' reactions to it, really. There's been no discussion between Harry and a lot of the other characters concerning Snape's betrayal. Or you know, that is a topic of much debate, but...

Ben: Oh yeah! We should do a show about that by the way.

[Laura laughs]

Ben: Have you guys done Snape yet?

Laura: No.

Micah: No.

Kevin: No, we haven't. We've discussed him a lot in...

Ben: Next week's Snape.

Kevin: Okay.

Ben: I'm saying that now.

Kevin: Snape it is.

Ben: Well, now that we've sort of hashed out who Molly Weasley is, what her role is in the series, let's hear what questions you guys had.



Voicemails - Molly's Job Status and Financial Situation


[Audio]: Yo dudes, this is Izzie from Oz and I would like to know in the book, Sorcerer's Stone, there was a woman in Diagon Alley who Harry hears outside the Apothecary. She's all like, "Seventeen Sickles an ounce, they're mad!" raving about something on sale there. Now, not only is this strange because seventeen Sickles are a Galleon, but I believe this person is described like Molly Weasley, only Harry doesn't know her yet. I think that the reason whoever said this "Seventeen Sickles" was because it sounds like a lot more money than a Galleon. And if you can't afford a Galleon then that's pretty bad. Also, how do you think the Weasleys can afford all their stuff? Do they, I mean they have things like the Flying Car and their house really isn't that bad. How much do you think Arthur's job pays, and is Molly Weasley really unemployed? Thanks!

Laura: I really don't think it was her, just because it didn't sound like her talking, from what I remember of the quote.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: It just didn't sound like Molly. I think she said something like "Seventeen Sickles" for however much of whatever it is she was buying and she was like, "They're mad!" or something like that, and it just didn't sound like...

Ben: Right, but the thing is, is that, the context that we've seen Mrs Weasley in, in the books, has been when she's around Harry, when she's trying to act like a mother.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: That's true.

Ben: And even though she may be acting, she may have seemed like the real Molly Weasley come out. I mean, not the non-motherly type, the one who's just personally frustrated because, you know, she says, "'That's insane' because they don't have that much money." So, it could be...

Laura: Yeah, but again, they've always been kind of...I wouldn't say secret, but they don't discuss their financial situation in public.

Micah: Yeah, but they do always say, you know, I don't know if it's just the movies or if it's in the books too, but she always seems like she will always get by, no matter what the financial situation is.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: Like when they have to go to Diagon Alley to get all their supplies.

Laura: Really the only person that I've heard, that I remember talking about the Weasleys' financial situation is Ron and it's always when he's complaining, like "I hate being poor."

Kevin: Yep.

Laura: I don't really...

Ben: Well, no actually, actually, if you look to what Mrs. Weasley has said before how, "We had to get your robes hand-me-down."

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: Like in Goblet of Fire...

Laura: But that's...

Ben: When he got the...

Kevin: She mentions...

Ben: His dress robes.

Kevin: Yeah, she mentions it in passing but she never really you know, comes out and says, "We're poor."

Laura: Yeah. I just couldn't really see her...

Ben: I think the reason that they don't have very much...

Laura: I don't know, I just couldn't see her standing there, talking about anything that would allude to...

Kevin: I don't see her being aggressive at all towards anyone.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: You know what I mean? About money.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: Well...

Kevin: So, to be honest, I don't think it was her.

Ben: Well what about the rest of the question though?

Kevin: Well...

Ben: Is she unemployed? I'm guessing...

Laura: Well, I think so.

Kevin: I would say she's a housewife.

Laura: Yeah, and didn't...

Kevin: That's what I'd say.

Laura: Didn't Jo say on her site somewhere that she taught the kids before they went to Hogwarts? I seem to remember that she was teaching her children, so...

Kevin: Yes, yes.

Andrew: Well, that's almost like a housewife, kind of job.

Laura: Yeah, I mean, but when you're, you know when you're home-schooling your kids, you don't really have time for a job so...I doubt that she is employed.

Ben: And also...

Andrew: Laura knows all about home-schooling.

Ben: Yeah, and also I think that the Weasleys...

Laura: Yes, Laura does.

Ben: [laughs] The Weasleys, the Weasleys would have a lot more money say if they only had two kids rather than having as many as they do. Because Arthur, he works for the Ministry as like a Government position.

Kevin: Yep.

Ben: And you'd think that that would pay pretty decently.

Laura: Yeah but he works, he works in the Muggle Department

Ben: And the problem is, is that he has all these older kids he has to support, and...

Laura: And we know how Fudge feels about Muggles.

Ben: Yeah, I see what you're saying but...

Kevin: Yeah, but...

Ben: At the same time...

Kevin: Yeah.

Laura: I could, no I could seriously see...

Ben: Okay.

Laura: Cornelius Fudge jacking Arthur's pay because a) he's not a fan of Muggles and b) he knows that Arthur loves Muggles. So, I could totally see him giving him a raw deal. I really could.

Ben: But, we don't know if it's Fudge who decides the salaries. I'm sure there's a type of panel, you know?

Laura: I'm sure he has input.

Ben: You know, you know...okay. But it's not like the President. It's not...the President of the United States doesn't decide how much money the members of his cabinet make.

Laura: No.

Ben: You see. Those are set by a sort of Parliament maybe, the Wizengamot or whatever, but I'm just saying that even just because he doesn't like...

Laura: Yes but he has influences on...

Ben: ...Muggles.

Laura: ...Those who determine...

Kevin: Who set that pay.

Laura: Yeah. [laughs]

Kevin: Yeah. But at the same time, I don't think that even if he did make a decent salary that he would still be in any better...

Laura: I think they'd still be...

Kevin: ...situation money-wise.

Laura: ...they'd still be pretty tight.

Kevin: They have so many children that...exactly.

Ben: There's so many expenses that they just have to be able to find a way to pay for everything. And look at their house, it's...it had to be magically expanded, it wouldn't hold together if it was a normal house like the houses we live in. So...

Kevin: Yep. And I mean, all the stuff that...that the Weasleys have, if you notice, have been, has been repaired.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: You know, like the car that Mr. Weasley has, has been fixed up by him and modified.

Ben: Right.

Kevin: So, I mean you can go to any junkyard and get a car that won't drive, but you can fix it up. So, I don't think that determines their money.

Andrew: But...

Kevin: You know, how much they're making.

Andrew: Getting back to Molly Weasley's professional profession. I just think that she hasn't had the time to invest into anything. Because don't you think they would want more money?

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: So Molly's wanted to...you know, but she's been held up with the kids and then...

Laura: Now the Order.

Andrew: Ginny got out but then...yeah, right.

Laura: Now she's got the Order.

Andrew: Right, so there's been no time.

Kevin: Right.

Andrew: You know, and then when you think about it, you know, Aunt Petunia, Malfoy's mother, they...we haven't really heard of jobs from them either. Like, what other women are there that Jo, JK Rowling has described jobs for them?

Kevin: Ummm...Malfoy...

Ben: Right, but in the end.

Kevin: Narcissa.

Ben: But in the end, what you need to realize with this is that the Weasleys are a family that it's more than money that matters.

Laura: Exactly.

Kevin: Yep.

Ben: So, when it comes down to it...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: It doesn't really matter how much money they're making and it's sort of the model family that you, that everyone wants to be a part of.

Kevin: And I sometime...I recall JK Rowling saying something about that. She was trying, I believe in an interview she said that she was trying to portray that type of character where material things really don't matter.

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: Yeah, but the entire family really isn't materialistic at all.

Laura: No.

Andrew: Ah, that's a sweet...

Kevin: Okay.

Ben: Izzie, Izzie I hope, Izzie I hope that answers your question. Next...next voicemail.

Kevin: Next one.



Voicemails - Why Join The Order?


[Audio]: Hey guys, this is Mark from New York. Great job with the show. I was just wondering what you guys thought got Molly Weasley and I guess Arthur too, into the Order of the Phoenix. I mean I know they say at one point that they're blood-traitors because they are pureblood and on Dumbledore's side, but that doesn't just mean you're in the Order. What got them into it?

Kevin: Well, this is what I think. Dumbledore constructed the Order himself, meaning he...he put people in that position. And what better people to put in the position than the people that he knew and taught. You know, he...I'm sure he had an impression of who the Weasleys were before he brought them into the Order and I believe that he selected from the talented witches and wizards that were in his opinion good people.

Ben: That, Kevin...

Kevin: And I believe that's how...

Ben: That's definitely true too.

Laura: Yeah, but...

Ben: But, another thing would be is that he may have, you know, sort of it may have been an open invitation. They've known Dumbledore for quite a long time and they wanted to help out because you're either with Voldemort or you're against him.

Kevin: Yep.

Ben: It's not, it's not the situation where it's...

Laura: Well.

Ben: "Well, I'm sort of lukewarm about him," and it's either it's hot or cold, you know? And they decided to join the Order because they felt it was the right thing to do.

Laura: Well, also there are a couple of points. They weren't in the Order the first time. We don't really know why yet. Also, I think a big reason, especially for Molly to join the Order is that her brothers were killed in the First War.

Kevin: That's true.

Laura: And she probably, she wants to avenge them.

Kevin: Also...also Mr. Weasley works at the Department of Ministries.

Laura: Yes.

Kevin: So that's also a strategic position for the Order. So...

Micah: Well, also Harry too, I mean, perhaps Dumbledore thought to give them some sort of...I guess even protection. Maybe he felt that they were susceptible to an attack.

Laura: And they are.

Micah: And putting them in...yeah, putting them in the Order is a way to kind of protect them and keep them safe.

Kevin: Yep.

Ben: Definitely agree.

Andrew: Arthur is...

Ben: Thanks for your...

Andrew: Arthur is definitely the inside source for everything.

Kevin: He is, yeah. He's that guy who sits in the corner and watches what's going on.

Laura: And gets attacked by snakes while he's doing it.

Ben: He's definitely kind of inconspicuous.

Kevin: Yes.

Ben: Who thinks that the person, the Head of the Muggle...Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office is going to be spying on you, you know? Everyone probably thinks he's a lamer.

[All laugh]

Kevin: And...yeah! [laughs]

Ben: It turns out that he's a double agent, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: That's how it works.

Andrew: Yep.

Micah: Dude, he works with toasters.

[All laugh]

Ben: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: Thanks for your question, Mark, but we've got to move on.



Voicemail - Over-protective Much?


[Audio]: Hi guys, this is Natalie from Stoke-On-Trent in the UK. I'd just like to say first of all that I absolutely love the show! My question is, do you think that Mrs. Weasley was slightly over-protective of Harry in Order of the Phoenix. I mean at the end of the day, he's not her son and whilst she rightly feels very protective of him, she should really accept that she can't really boss him around like she does with her sons. And also, did you find her comment to Sirius about not being able to look out for Harry uncharacteristic? Thank you, and keep up the great work!

Ben: Absolutely not. I just feel that she realized that Sirius was sort of overstepping his bounds to an extent, where he was starting to treat Harry more like...more like a brother-type, a brotherly-type rather than being his godfather, and Mrs. Weasley recognized this and basically tried to put a stop to it before it went to far, and before they were running out all night in their Animagi, with Sirius in his Animagus form and...[laughs] So, I really think that she wasn't being overprotective, that it was to the extent where she realizes Harry is a teenager, she realizes that he's not, that's he not a grown adult. But at the same time, I do understand that Harry has been through a lot, and he deserved to know what was going on. But in terms of Sirius, I really don't think it was too overprotective.

Kevin: I also think that one of the reasons why Mrs. Weasley is so protective is that Dumbledore allows Harry to go there and he does that under the condition that he will be looked after and cared for.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: So it's...it's entirely her responsibility. Maybe she's not her, maybe she's not Harry's mother but in this case she acting as it.

Laura: She's the closest...

Kevin: She's the guardian of Harry.

Laura: ...thing he has to a mother.

Kevin: Exactly. And I mean, just imagine if something happened to Harry under Mrs. Weasley's nose.

Laura: Also...

Kevin: You know, like...

Laura: ...I really think that there are points where I do feel she is over-protective of Harry, especially when he was asking what was going on with Voldemort. I think Harry had every right to know. However, that does make a lot of sense, what you said, Kevin, with her feeling that he, he is her responsibility in a lot of ways and it is understandable that she is overprotective at points. But I don't think that Sirius was totally incompetent.

Micah: Yeah but, I mean I agree with Ben. Like, based on Sirius' previous activity, it shows that he's kind of an irrational thinker.

Laura: He definitely is.

Micah: And...

Kevin: Oh yeah, definitely.

Laura: But I don't think that he was...

Kevin: And he's rash.

Laura: Totally inept.

Micah: Yeah but Molly is already a mother, I mean she has all these children so I think it's...

Laura: And I think...sorry! [laughs]

Micah: And basically all of what you guys are saying, it was a natural...no, no it's all right. It was a natural kind of reaction to feel the way she does for Harry.

Laura: I think...

Kevin: And I don't think that she meant it as...as almost a serious comment, she meant it as a threat kind of thing. It was...I think she intended it to be a wake-up call to him.

Laura: Mhm.

Kevin: You know what I mean?

Laura: I also think there's...

Kevin: From what she was observing.

Laura: ...a little bit of rivalry going on there. I mean, here she'd been sort of Harry's mother figure since he was eleven and then all of a sudden Sirius comes along, and I think she feels like he took it away from her, in a way. So, there could be a little bit of that going on.

Ben: Okay, well I think we've pretty much discussed Molly Weasley. For those of you who want to hear about other stuff, well this is...this part of the show is for you. Okay Kevin. Roll the first non-Molly Weasley voicemail. [laughs]



Voicemails - Columbus' Return?


[Audio]: Hey, MuggleCast! It's Meredith and I had a question about what you thought about Chris Columbus. He said that he wouldn't mind coming back to direct like the sixth or the seventh movie, so I was wondering if you think that would be good for the Harry Potter movies. Especially after a movie he just finished, Rent, and from what I gathered, like I thought the movie was amazing, but from other kids at my school, it seemed to be one of the movies that you either absolutely loved or absolutely hated. So I was just curious, so thanks for your time and hooday and peace out.

Ben: Well, thanks, Meredith, for your question. Chris Columbus, I thought he did a really good job with the first two movies because we’ve talked about this in past shows, where he basically had to set the foundation for the entire series and he had to include as much as possible, because we see the books start to balloon out and things start getting cut. The first two movies are probably the most true to the book and the most true to the characters, and even though some people don’t think they’re very good movies because the Trio’s still basically coming into their own, learning better acting skills, and things of that sort. I think if he was going to come back for Movie 6 and 7, he would see what the other directors have done with the series and compare what he did and make the adjustments based off that, and perhaps make a better movie, something that no one would actually expect from him.

Kevin: Well, I think that he would be an excellent director for the seventh movie, and the reason being is that, as you’ve said before, the Harry Potter movies have moved off from a lot of content base and have moved to being an artistic movie where it doesn’t necessarily follow the plot of Harry Potter to the T, like, the original two movies, and I think that what better director to finish off the series then someone who’s going to wrap up all of the loose ends that have been formed by the other directors. Although it may not be as good of a movie for those who are just coming in to the series, it’s going to be the final closure for those who are fans of the series.

Andrew: Yeah, okay, I don’t think he should come back to direct anymore of the films. Sorry to anyone who has felt that way, because you compare the first two movies to movies three and four, and there is such a difference in the way that it was presented. I think that Chris would want to turn it back into the way he had them, because that’s the way he does his films and that’s the way he does his Harry Potter films. He’s done two, so we can say that. I mean, if we brought him back, I just think it would just be taking a step back.

Laura: I agree. I agree.

Ben: I don’t know about that.

Kevin: I don’t know.

Ben: Let me hear your defense, Melissa. I mean - not Melissa.

Kevin: Oh jeez. [laughs]

Laura: Oh, now I’m Melissa. Ok.

Ben: Laura.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: No, the reason I wouldn’t want to see Chris Columbus come back is because he tends to direct much lighter films...

Kevin: Yeah.

Laura: And I don’t think that Movie 6 and 7 need to be light. I really feel...

Ben: What about...

Andrew: Like I said, it's...

Ben: Hold on a second. What about David Yates? David Yates never has even directed a movie.

Laura: Hey, I’m apprehensive about that.

Ben: He’s only made for TV stuff.

Andrew: Yeah, whoever said we were confident about that?

Laura: Yeah [laughs].

Kevin: Yeah [laughs].

Ben: My flawed assumption there, sorry.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, well you don’t know what to expect and once they start filming in February, then we’re going to start to see pictures, we’ll see where they’re filming.

Laura: Yeah. Honestly, this is just me, but I’ve never found Chris Columbus to be terribly creative. That’s just my perception. I’m not saying that everyone should feel like that but...

Andrew: Well, I mean, but...

Ben: Well, the first two films look what he was given to work with.

Andrew: Yeah, he wasn’t given anything.

Ben: There wasn’t much to be creative with.

Kevin: Exactly.

Laura: No, he wasn’t given good materials to work with per-se.

Andrew: Well, you got to give him credit for starting the whole thing out and making it a pretty good show.

Laura: I do, I do.

Kevin: But what I’m afraid of is that the director that they are going to choose for 7, is going to be a director much like Alfonso, who focuses more on the artistic-ness of the movie.

Laura: Well, I think Alfonso...

Kevin: And we’ve read the story so people are like, "This is very disappointing."

Laura: I think Alfonso focused more on the tone.

Ben: You are one of the three people that thought that.

Laura: I think he focused more way more on the tone of the story really, and in a lot of respects, I think that focusing on the tone and being true to that is a lot more important then getting every detail from the story.

Kevin: Yeah, but at the same time, if you leave out too much, you’re letting the people you have followed you through...

Laura: Totally, I agree.

Ben: I got an email from someone from Universal Studios this week and they told me that they had been listening to the Podcast quite a bit and they said, “From the moving-making perspective, that it’s not really, when you’re changing a book to a movie, it’s not really your job to basically include every detail. It’s your job to convey the idea,” which I agree the directors to this point have conveyed the idea of the movie of what it’s suppose to be about. The first movie, all these movies sort of contained the same central theme but had different twists on it and thing of that sort, and I think throughout the entire series so far, all the movies, all four of them have done a very good job. Each director has put their own little twist on it and put their own little, basically made it their own world and they’ve done good jobs. I don’t see what problems you guys have with it until you get down to overanalyzing it and I know there’s no such thing as overanalyzing but go on.

Kevin: I think I’m just a typical Harry Potter fan who fears that the series will be destroyed by some crazy director.

Ben: Right, see, you haven’t even seen...

Laura: See, and I think the movies are intended for the fans, really, and I think that they expect that you are walking into the theater knowing the story. I think that’s the reason behind so many...

Ben: That's not necessarily true...

Kevin: But that’s wha...

Ben: Warner Bros. wouldn’t make a movie if that was the case. I know making movies, it’s meant to satisfy the fans and it's meant satisfy the average person. If the average person in the street wants to go out and see a Harry Potter movie or see a movie, that’s plain, they aren’t exactly going to know Harry Potter walking into the theater.

Laura: Yeah, but they are depending on the fact that there are so many Harry Potter fans.

Kevin: Speaking of which, guys, there was actually an article in my school newspaper regarding Goblet of Fire, and the last paragraph did pretty well to sum it up. I quote, who is this, I quote Ted Blake...

Andrew: Yo, Ted.

Kevin: "Though the-" yes. “Though the movie is still a must-see for fans of Harry Potter book series, Muggles unfamiliar with Hogwarts, house-elves, or Hermione, should bring along a Rowling fan to talk them through the plot.”

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, you’d go into it confused.

Kevin: Exactly.

Laura: Oh, I took someone who is a complete Harry Potter virgin, apart from the fact that she’s seen the first three films. She’s never picked up any of the books in her life and she was so confused by Goblet of Fire. She walked out and she was like, “What did we just see?”

Andrew: And I remember my friend. I took a friend to see Prisoner of Azkaban and it was the same thing. He didn’t like the film because he was like “Uh, okay. He flew off on a broom and crashed into the screen and [Laura laughs] that’s all I can remember.”

[Micah laughs]

Kevin: And that is very similar to what Laura’s saying with - it’s for the fans. The movies up until now have been very fan-based where a person who hasn’t read the series ends up being confused by the movie.

Andrew: I don’t think that WB thinks about the fans first. I think they think about making it appeal to as many people as possible.

Kevin: Yeah but, think of how many millions read...

Laura: Exactly.

Kevin: The books. I mean, you can’t ignore the fans, especially in Harry Potter.

Andrew: No, but here‘s the thing, you put Harry Potter in the front of a title of a film and every fan is going to go see it. Warner Bros. automatically knows that, but then you also want to get the people who aren’t the fans to go and see the movie. So, they’re trying to appeal to them first because they know these fans are going to go see it because it says Harry Potter.

Laura: Well, that’s why - I mean come on. Look at the promotional pictures. Look how they make the characters look. They are trying to appeal to people who are not fans by making them look, I guess you could say...

Andrew: Cool.

Laura: Prettier, better-looking then they really are in the books.

Andrew: Alfonso started that.

Ben: Look at Hermione. For example, Emma Watson isn’t what Hermione really looks like...

Laura: No, no.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Because she’s hot. Emma Watson’s hot. I love Emma Watson.

Laura: I get personally annoyed because in all of the promotional ads she looks like a model.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: And Hermione is not a model. But see...

Andrew: But you know, perfect example: Ben Schoen. How many times has he seen the movie?

Laura: Yeah, they are trying to get people by...

Andrew: 83 times.

[Ben Laughs]

Laura: They are getting the Ben Schoens of the world to go “Wow, that girl's hot. I’m going to see this movie now.”

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: That’s what they’re doing. [laughs] At least you admit it.

Andrew: You went to see the film 83 times right?

Ben: Well not only that, I have about every Emma Watson picture ever in creation downloaded on my hard drive.

[Andrew, Laura, and Kevin laugh]

Ben: And I’m not a creepy stalker.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: Yeah, right.

Andrew: Seriously Ben...

Kevin: Right Ben.

Andrew: Yeah well, I just think Warner Bros. is trying to appeal to the mass audience before they appeal to the fans because...

Kevin: But have they accomplished that, yet?

Andrew: I think the...I don’t know. Well, I think the reviews are pretty good, and most of the critics aren’t die-hard Harry Potter fans, so I don’t know. And then they also consider money and time, and you know.

Kevin: Well, in the end, at least I think that he would be a good director for the seventh movie, but it might not be the best movie but I trust him to include all the information.

Micah: So, you want to see him come full circle, from the first to the last movie?

Kevin: Right, right.

Andrew: It would be nice, because I mean, that’s what a lot of people credit Chris Columbus for, keeping the movies real to the books. So, if people want to put that trust but then again Book 7 could be 2000 pages and then they are going to have to cut some stuff.

Ben: The movie I’m really worried about is Movie 6 because the director is going to have a hard time jumping back and forth into the Horcrux scenes in the Pensieve and you know, that’s the movie I think would be the hardest to direct, to this point. Wouldn’t you guys agree?

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Just that whole scene where Dumbledore dies is going to be really hard to make it not seem cheesy. Like him flying off the tower.

Andrew: [in high pitched squeak] Well.

[All laughs]

Andrew: You're taking that out.

Kevin: No, you’re keeping that in.

Andrew: No you’re not.

[All continues to laugh]

Kevin: Well, they didn’t make the Cedric scene look...

Laura: No, they did a good job with that.

Andrew: That’s what I was going to say, but I’m not a man yet so.

Kevin: Before you [laughs] before you squeaked.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: I’m a man.

Kevin: I’m a real man.

Ben: Thanks, Meredith. That question really sparked a pretty lively discussion there.

Andrew: I like talking about the movies.

Kevin: But...

Ben: There are other questions, other voicemails. Roll the next clip, Kevin.

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#214 (November 20th, 2010): In perhaps our most controversial episode ever, we review Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 the day after its release. The hosts are clearly on opposites ends of the debate and the show receives so much feedback, we record another episode less than four days later.

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