MuggleCast 191 Transcript



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Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is - this is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you enjoy - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!

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Micah: Because Ben's waiting for a cooler addition to the theme park, this is MuggleCast Episode 191 for February the 4th, 2010.

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Andrew: Welcome everyone to Episode 191 of MuggleCast. I'm here with Ben, Jamie, and Micah. Hello boys!

Jamie: Hey!

Ben: Hey. Hey.

Jamie: It's an all-boys special today, isn't it?

Andrew: It's an all - yeah, this is an interesting group. I feel like...

Micah: It's old school.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: It is old school, yeah.

Andrew: I feel like there's not going to be any balance. This has potential to get a little crazy, if you know what I'm saying.

Jamie: It could definitely, yeah.

Andrew: Usually we have a female anchor, or - or someone less funny than all of us so it sort of balances out, but...

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: ...today it's going to be crazy.

Ben: Where's Laura when you need her?

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: Costa Rica.

Andrew: We have a wonderful show, there's so much news lately. And we're going to start off our Chapter-by-Chapter series for Prisoner of Azkaban and oh so much more.

Ben: Wow! So it only took us like five years to get through two books and stuff, like after...

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah. Well, we had significant breaks in between.

Jamie: Didn't we start like eight times?

Andrew: We've done Books One, Two and Seven right now. I think that's pretty good.

Jamie: We can't count, though if we've done Books One, Two and Seven.

Ben: Yeah, that's not too bad, we'll be done by the year 2016.

Andrew: And we're doing three chapters at a time now, too, so...

Jamie: Cool.

Andrew: Yep. I'm Andrew Sims.

Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.

Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

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Andrew: Micah, like I said, there's been a lot of news, what's - what's the latest? From the news desk.



News: Helping Haiti Heal Update


Micah: Well, I wanted to start off talking about something that we all participated in. I guess it was two weeks ago now? The Helping Haiti Heal...

Andrew: Yes.

Micah: ...campaign that was put together by the Harry Potter Alliance. As of today, they've raised over $66,000...

Andrew: Wow.

Micah: ...for Haiti which is just amazing.

Ben: Isn't it more than that? Isn't it up to, like $80,000?

Andrew: Yeah, I think it's over $70,000.

Micah: Oh, is it?

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I was looking on their website. They need to update their website.

Andrew: I think it's - yeah, I think its well over $70,000. It's great, and it's - as everybody knows, we - or should know - we participated in the Helping Haiti Heal event. The first hour of it was MuggleCast and if you want to listen to that episode, which we consider to be Episode 190, you can download it. It's now available in the feed - the entire four-hour event is in the feed. That includes MuggleCast, Hogwarts Radio, PotterCast, the Harry Potter Alliance's podcast - all the podcasts, all combined into one. We did one big four-hour bonanza. It was a lot of fun and we raised a lot of money which is excellent. So...

Micah: Absolutely.

Andrew: Yep.



News: Deathly Hallows Previews


Micah: Well, in other news, Total Film magazine previewed Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part I and II, and it seems like we're getting more and more previews now as we get a little bit closer - not really, but November will be here before we know it. And Director David Yates called Part I a "road film." This seems to be the common term used for it.

Andrew: Yes.

Micah: Saying that it was "dynamic, adrenalized, visceral - it's a refugee story about three kids cut off from everything they know and everybody they love, being pursued relentlessly by people who want to murder them." So that sounds like a great kids' movie, doesn't it?

Andrew: [laughs] But seriously, I've mentioned this on numerous shows now, this road movie title. We need to put a stop to this. I'm sick of it already and we know the cast and crew, they're all, "road movie, road movie, road movie". I just don't know.

Micah: He went on to talk a little bit about the split saying, "Do you break it with a moment of suspense or resolution?" So it doesn't seem like they have an answer yet as to where this movie is going to be split. I'm sure they have some ideas...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...but nothing concrete.

Andrew: I think they're going to play around with it. Like, you know, they're going to make - they're going to put the split somewhere and then sit and watch it and be like, "Hmm, how did that feel?" and you know. So I'm sure we'll get some interesting insight into that once they actually make their decision and officially announce it, if they even do announce it.

Micah: With Part II, they referred to it as "a big opera, a great big epic, with huge battles," and Ben's favorite actress said that she felt like she was on a different film as this one doesn't have the structure that the previous films had.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: So...

Andrew: What do they mean by opera?

Micah: Maybe there's going to be some singing?

Andrew: [singing] What's this? Is it a Horcrux? But wait, is it just a ploy by Voldemort?

Jamie: Wow. That's not that bad.

Micah: Did you plan that?

Andrew: No.

Ben: Yeah, he did.

Andrew: No, I didn't.

Ben: He had that planned for like two weeks.

Andrew: I just did it!

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: Suuuuure.

Andrew: But it should be interesting to see what they mean by opera. That is pretty high praise.

Jamie: I think it's quite high praise, yeah.

Andrew: Big epic opera.

Jamie: It could be big...

Micah: Huge battles.

Jamie: It could be big in the wrong way with music like, you know, really opera-y music. That's not really a Harry Potter film.

Ben: Now is there really - is there really a nude scene between Dan and Emma or is that just...

Andrew: Yes! Yes!

Ben: How nude are we talking?

Andrew: Well, it's going to be when Ron has the vision of Harry and...

Jamie: Well, how many different nudes are there?

Andrew: ...Hermione kissing and apparently - we don't know how nude exactly, for sure.

Jamie: What do you mean? Nude means nude. You can't have half nude.

[Andrew and Ben laugh]

Andrew: Yes, you can.

Ben: Yeah, you can. You can have nude from the waist up. That would be [imitating Jamie] "half nude".

Andrew: I think...

Jamie: No, it wouldn't. That's like - anyway, go on. Go on. We're just arguing semantics now.

Andrew: I think Harry may be full nude. At least, that's my hope. [laughs] No.

[Jamie and Micah laugh]

Andrew: If I were... [laughs] If I were to guess... [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: ...I would say - I would say he's going to be full nude. I don't know, I think he's ready for this after Equus.

Ben: Oh, yeah. I'm sure they're going to put that in a Harry Potter movie.

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Andrew: It's a little different. You know what I'm saying, but - so I look forward to this opera.

Micah: Okay. But also, we talked about the split a little bit and the screenwriter Steve Kloves said that he thinks that it's going to be at a point that gives certain characters a good send off or a proper send off, and the only thing I can think of would be Dobby and his death.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: So who else do you have to give a proper send off to other than that?

Andrew: Yeah, I think that's right, and we saw photos of them filming those scenes, and it looks very sad, but yet a proper send off.

Micah: All right.

Jamie: Proper send off. That's quite a big promise to make.

Andrew: It is.

Jamie: That must mean it's good. That must mean it's good. How can it not be?

Andrew: [laughs] They got to stop, you know, this is where we all get fooled every year, every movie. You know, we always hear this high praise, high praise, and then we actually see it and you know, "Oh, it wasn't a good send off! Oh, it wasn't a road movie! Oh, it wasn't an opera!"

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] What was it? Nonsense.

Ben: Actually here's what happens...

Jamie: That would suck.

Ben: Everyone sees the movie and like, "Oh my god! That was the best thing I've ever seen!"

Andrew: [laughs] Right.

[Jamie laughs]

Ben: "Best movie of all time." And then like, twenty minutes later, they're like, "Oh, actually it was..."

Jamie: "It's not that good." Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, once you come down from the high.

Jamie: Avatar syndrome.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.



News: Wizarding World Update


Micah: Well, the other big news that's been going on is related to the Wizarding World theme park. And fan sites, Harry Potter fan sites got a chance to talk with Thierry Coup, who is the - I don't really know what his official title is, but he's like, the Head of Creative...

Andrew: [Exuberantly] Vice President of Creative.

Micah: ...for Universal, Orlando.

Ben: Creative what?

Micah: And...

Jamie: That's the coolest name ever.

Andrew: Yeah. Just, just "creative." He's just creative.

Micah: So when he sat down with the fan sites, he specifically talked about Ollivander's shop and a little bit else about the theme park as a whole. But this was all in relation to last week Warner Brothers released an official press release for the shop and - I think this was the same day USA Today did their whole, "hold your newspaper up to your webcam" and if you're on the website...

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: ...it shows the theme park and sort of a 3D feature.

Andrew: The augmented reality. I heard it stunk.

Micah: Really?

Andrew: Like, it hardly worked. Yeah. Oh well, they tried. It didn't show anything new, either. So...

Micah: Well...

Andrew: Oh, well.

Micah: It's amazing the amount of detail, though. You know, one of the things that Theory talked about - or Thierry talked about was you know, just the authenticity of how this park - of this park. And you know, all the work that's gone in with respect to having J.K. Rowling involved, having Stuart Craig involved, having a lot of the set crew involved in bringing actual authentic items into the park, and if they couldn't use the ones from Leavesden Studios, how they were going to use ones that, you know, replicate them. So just...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Just a tremendous amount of detail that's going into this park. And with Ollivanders the cool thing that I thought about this was that if you don't get the right wand for you - because this whole experience of going through and, you know, the wand choosing the wizard - there's these mishaps that occur in the actual store.

Andrew: Mhm.

Micah: So you have like lightning and thunder that occur in the store if the wand isn't right for you. And if the wand is right for you, there are a lot of other things that go on.

Andrew: Yeah, it sounds like really cool. So I mean, it's really going to replicate that scene in the movie where Harry goes into Ollivanders.

Micah: Yeah, absolutely.

Andrew: [as Ollivander] "The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter."

Micah: Uh-huh.

Andrew: "It's not clear why." Yeah, that should be pretty cool. I'm looking forward to that. And then you have the choice of buying it for $59.99!

Ben: Oooh!

Micah: Yeah, exactly. But I mean, that's part of the experience and you don't have to buy it. The experience is free.

Andrew: Right. You don't have to buy the wand. But obviously they're going to set it up so you really want to buy that wand.

Jamie: And the children say "mum, mum, mum."

Ben: They're going to be doing all the tricks, putting all the pressure on you...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...to get the wand.

Andrew: [as Ollivander] "Now you can choose to buy this wand for the price of $59.99."

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: By the way, I - it's...

Micah: That's not the actual price, yeah.

Andrew: We don't know the actual price. [laughs] It may be, though.

Micah: And one of the things...

Jamie: It could be a lot less than that.

Micah: Yeah. One of the things he said they're working on is to get the wand to work in other parts of Hogsmeade Village.

Andrew: That would be cool.

Jamie: Aw, that would be insane. That would be so cool.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: So like, you can go into different stores and maybe activate stuff when you "flourish your wand"?

Micah: Exactly. Exactly.

Andrew: Mmm.

Jamie: Basically, yeah.

Andrew: That could be dangerous...

[Micah laughs]

Jamie: That would be very, very cool.

Andrew: Kids running around smacking their friends with the wands, poking them.

Micah: Yeah. But this is a very involved process, though, he said. You know, it - it's going to be exactly like the movie. The wand keeper is going to ask you questions...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: You know, and you have to give specific answers in order to determine what wand is right for you. And...

Andrew: Cool.

Micah: Yeah. Very authentic experience. He joked about driving around the Ford Anglia, because I guess they brought it over from Leavesden, so he was driving around Orlando... [laughs]

Andrew: What a show-off.

Micah: Yeah, I know, and he said he had a bunch of like, mothers and children chasing after him.

Andrew: Wait, he was really driving it?

Micah: He was driving it, yeah.

Andrew: No. They build those so they actually work?

Micah: I guess so.

Andrew: That's wild.

Micah: I don't know, maybe he was showing off.

Andrew: Yeah, I think he was - he was probably kidding.

Micah: I don't know, he went into pretty big detail on it.

Andrew: [laughs] Really?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, okay.

Ben: Do - do you guys like theme parks in general?

Andrew: Yes.

Jamie: But you - but you guys live next to one.

Ben: Like, it's nothing more than a ploy, you know what I mean? To be like, oh...

Andrew: What's a ploy?

Ben: Well, I mean, think about it. Like, are they really building a theme park for like, "Oh, we want you to have the real authentic Hogwarts experience"?

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: Yeah, but Ben, everything in the world is like that!

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: You know, it's not like...

Ben: Well, the world's a cruel place, Jamie!

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: It is a cruel place, it is a cruel place. But oil companies don't be nice to us and give us the nice oil so we can heat our homes, they give it to us because it makes them loads of money.

Andrew: Are - Ben, are you not excited for the park?

Ben: No, but oil has an actual use.

Jamie: So does theme parks...

Andrew: Are you not excited for the park?

Jamie: It creates happiness in children! And I think that's a very important cause.

Ben: Oh! [laughs] So all of a sudden I'm turning into - I'm anti-happiness for children.

Andrew: Are - you're not excited for the park?

Ben: I would say - I would say I'm relatively excited. I'm mean I'm not like jumping out of my chair to go see it...

Andrew: Right.

Ben: ...or anything, but...

Andrew: Is there any one thing that you think they could add that would make you excited, or is it just because it's a theme park that you're not excited?

Ben: It's not because it's a theme park, like - I just think - I feel like part of the magic, it was like Hogwarts was this world I created inside my head, and the movies have already deadened that to a certain extent.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I have a hard time breaking free of the box that the movies put me in, and I feel like the Wizarding World's just a further extension of that, and...

Jamie: Ben, do you actually feel that...

Ben: ...that deadens the imagination...

Jamie: Ben...

Ben: ...and I don't think this is fair - I don't think it's fair.

Andrew: I'm looking into his eyes right now, Jamie. He's tearing up a bit, I think he's pretty serious.

Jamie: That was quite an in-depth thing: "I think I've created this world in my head, and..." That was quite emotional.

Andrew: No, I think Ben's serious, and I think he brings up a good point.

Micah: No, it's a great point.

Ben: And I mean, to be honest, like I'm not much of a - I'm not much of a theme park kind of person.

Andrew: Right.

Ben: And like, to me, the idea of like, you know, going into a mock Ollivanders shop, and you know, standing there and having them be like: "Ooh, this wand is yours!" or whatever, like they're just trying to sell you a product.

Andrew: All right, so what else is going on, Micah?

Ben: Micah, what else, dude?



News: Park Expansion


Micah: Well, just the final piece to this interview that we had was somebody asked if there was any sort of expansion that was going to be planned for the park. You know, there's all this kind of happy areas, you know, with Hogsmeade and Hogwarts, but if - was there any plans for kind of, you know, the more evil side of the series with Knockturn Alley and Azkaban? They said that there's nothing as of right now, but that doesn't mean that it's not going to be in the works sometime in the future.

Ben: Now if there was like a field you could go to like torture Mudbloods, now...

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Ben: ...that's my kind of theme park.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: But first you have to buy your wand from Ollivanders.

Micah: Yeah.

Jamie: And then torture them with it.

Ben: I know. Damn $59.99.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, I bet they will eventually expand this park.

Micah: Yep.

Andrew: Universal's got a lot of land down there. They obviously - expanding the park would bring a lot of people back to the park again. I think it would be worth their money and I'm sure they're going to see Harry Potter - this Wizarding World, as a big success.

Ben: Okay, okay. Over, under, over, under 30 percent of people will be dressed up going to the Wizarding World.

Jamie: Under, under, under. Actually, I'm not sure.

Andrew: Opening week, I'd say over.

Jamie: Maybe, maybe. However, I was going to say when you take into account parents I bet it's going to be under. Yeah, all the children will be, but if you think on average each person will have two parents with them.

Ben: Unless there is a family that has multiple kids.

Jamie: Yeah, true, true. Or if they have three parents.

Andrew: They may not allow people to dress up and go into the park. They may not allow people to...

Ben: Doesn't that just destroy the spirit?

Jamie: Yeah, why would you want to do that?

Andrew: Yeah, it kind of is. Well, they don't want them to be confused with the people working the park that are dressed up too.

Jamie: Yeah, but one is going to be a twenty-two year old guy and the other is a five year old kid; they aren't going to be working there.

Andrew: Fair enough, but we know our own Eric Scull likes to walk around in a cloak and he's twenty-two.

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah, that's true.

Andrew: He walks around New York City with a cloak, I think he...

Ben:: But he looks like he's 14 so it doesn't matter.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: All right, what else, Micah?

Micah: There's been some construction photos of the Wizarding World. It looks like things are coming together...

Andrew: Well I hope so. They are opening up soon.

Micah: Yes, speaking of them opening up, actually today, the day was are recording, NBC's Today Show is doing a competition to give one lucky class the opportunity to go to the grand opening of the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Andrew, you said the details give a little more insight into when the park might be opening.

Andrew: Yeah, the contest - they are going to pick the winners at the end of April, or that's when the judging is going to go on to select the class that is going to win this trip.

Ben: Are you a judge?

Andrew: No. I don't know who is. Probably Al Roker or something. They have to book the trip twenty-five days in advance. Now, the whole point of this contest is to go down there on opening week so if the judging is happening the end of April, then there's a twenty-five days advanced booking, so I would think we are looking at an opening in late May or early June, maybe mid-June.

Jamie: That is quite exciting.

Ben: Now, when is Infinitus?

Andrew: July.

Ben: Now Andrew, are we doing a live MuggleCast at Infinitus?

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Don't know yet Ben. I'll get back to you as soon as I know about it.

Ben: Okay, I was just curious.

Andrew: So that's that. Very exciting. I wish I was - what it has to be an elementary class or something?

Micah: Actually, I think it is 5 years old through 17 or 18.

Andrew: Hey philosophy class, let's get together and win this contest!

Jamie: Yeah, I think you'll get told where to shove it.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: What?! You don't want to go to Wizarding World? What's wrong with you!? [laughs] What happened to the child inside, man? What happened to the child inside you?

Andrew: I will bring you along so you can jump in the back of the class and yell that's a great idea!

Ben: Yay, Andy!



News: Deathly Hallows in 3D


Micah: All right, well this next story I feel the way Ben felt about the theme park. The Hollywood Reporter "Heat Vision" blog reported almost two weeks ago now that Warner Brothers will release both parts of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows in 3D and this was later confirmed I think just yesterday. What do you guys think about this?

Ben: I think seeing 3D movies makes me nauseous so...

Micah: Yeah, it's just like a rollercoaster.

Ben: I don't really care.

Jamie: What type of 3D is it? Is it just a Red/Blue split or is it Avatar 3D?

Ben: I really doubt that it's...

Andrew: No, no, it's not Avatar.

Ben: ...going to be - I doubt the whole thing is going to be in 3D, there's going to be like three scenes in 3D.

Andrew: No, no, no, it's going to be the whole thing...

Jamie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben: The whole thing, really?

Andrew: Yes.

Jamie: Ben, there's like two seconds at the end and two seconds at the beginning...

Andrew: No, they said in parts.

Jamie: ...and half-a-second in between.

Andrew: [laughs] Half-a-second. [imitating 3-D glasses directions] "Put on your glasses - take them off - put them back on - take them off."

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah, yeah.

Ben: I hate wearing those glasses, too. I just feel like a tool sitting there in the theatre with them on.

Jamie: Yeah.

Ben: And I don't care if everyone else is wearing them.

Jamie: And they're not comfortable, as well.

Andrew: Well, okay. Here's - here's - Jamie's right, I think Jamie said this - or Ben said this. You get dizzy after watching this for a while - I came out of Avatar spinning. I almost didn't want to drive, because like, I felt under the influence, I just didn't feel right.

Ben: Yeah dude, I heard about a bunch of wrecks happening...

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: ...on the highway, because of...

Andrew: After Avatar. [laughs]

Ben: Driving under the...

Andrew: No, but really, you do feel dizzy after watching a three and a half - or however long - two hour and forty minute movie, and Deathly Hallows is going to be hopefully about the same length, so I don't know, like, okay, obviously W.B. looks at Avatar, and says: "Wow, the number one top-grossing movie of all time - or soon to be, at least. How do we make that kind of money? Oh, let's put Harry Potter in 3D!" I think that's their logic, W.B. is clearly all about the money, they do whatever they can to make more money, and as we saw by pushing Half-Blood Prince back seven months or whatever it was, so. And 3D is "in" this year. It's like, this is the thing - it's the cool thing to talk about.

Jamie: Yeah. And it's going to get bigger.

Andrew: Yeah. And they're converting the film to 3D, Jamie, so I assume that means it'll be like a red-blue split kind of thing.

Jamie: Oh, no, that means it won't be proper 3D then.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: The whole thing about Avatar - aw, that's going to be rubbish then! That's not...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Aw, that's a shame...

Andrew: It costs...

Jamie: That's a complete...

Andrew: ...it costs about five million a film to convert.

Jamie: But that's - that isn't anything out of their budget, that's like...

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: ...a twenty-fifth of their budget or something.

Andrew: And apparently they make a good amount of money off the glasses.

Jamie: That's ridiculous.

Andrew: Now, if they're smart, they'll make the glasses - the 3D glasses Harry's glasses. I think that would be cool.

Jamie: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Aw, that would be incredible.

Ben: And they'll give out little lightning bolt tattoos...

Jamie: Yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: ...to put on your forehead.

Andrew: Yeah. Maybe MuggleNet should manufacture 3D Harry Potter glasses.

Jamie: That would be incredible. That would be...

Ben: Yeah, we'll just go to our warehouse...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, our 3D glasses warehouse.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: But it is important that it will also be available in 2D, so you don't have to see it in 3D.

Micah: Oh, I...

Ben: But if you really want to waste your money...

Micah: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I will...

Andrew: I think I will. Really?

Micah: To do a quick poll, how many people are going to see it in 3D?

Andrew: I will.

Micah: I won't.

Ben: I mean, Andrew will probably drag me along...

Jamie: I might go afterwards.

Andrew: [laughs] Ben, I'll trick you into it. I'll tell you it's the 2D, and then at the last minute I'll shove the glasses...

Ben: Whip out the glasses, and then you'll be like: "Hey, surprise!"

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: You'll be like: "Nooo!"

Ben: Straight from the MuggleNet warehouse.

[Andrew laughs]

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