MuggleCast 193 Transcript
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Jim Dale: [as Professor McGonagall] This is Professor McGonagall welcoming you all to MuggleCast hoping you enjoy - Dobby! Dobby, come here! Here! Dobby! [as Dobby] Yes, I'd just like to say how very pleased I am to introduce MuggleCast to all of you! Thank you! Thank you!
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Micah: Because Stuart Craig is a man's man, this is MuggleCast Episode 193 for March the 4th, 2010.
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Andrew: Welcome to MuggleCast Episode 193! Here today with Ben, Jaime, Eric, and Micah. Hey boys!
Ben: Hey, Andrew.
Andrew: I feel like the fans - you know our audience is primarily girls - they really - I hope they enjoy these all-boy programs. You know what I'm saying?
Micah: Well, we lost Laura to Costa Rica so there's not much we can do about that.
Andrew: Yeah, unfortunately.
Eric: [laughs] Costa Rica stole her away.
Andrew: We have a big show today. Last week - or last episode there was no news. Now there's a ton of news and a big Chapter-by-Chapter. Big show! Big show all around! I'm Andrew Sims.
Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.
Eric: I'm Eric Scull.
Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.
Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
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Andrew: Go ahead Micah. Lay the news on us. Lots of news going on.
Ben: Lay it on me Micah.
News: Deathly Hallows Interviews
Micah: All right, let's start with some Deathly Hallows interviews. A lot of these have been going on, most of them not really related to Movie 7. The interviews weren't done specifically for Movie 7, but a lot of actors and actresses are out there promoting new things that they're doing and of course Harry Potter questions come up. I guess we'll start with Stuart Craig. He was discussing his career in The Telegraph a couple weeks ago and of course they got on to he topic of the seventh film, and one of the interesting things that he said was that Snape dies an extremely good death and he was quite upset about it.
Ben: A good death?
Micah: He said he was in tears. Can you believe that?
Andrew: I don't know. I mean Stuart Craig, he's such a man's man.
Andrew: To hear that he's crying over checking out this scene in the film, but that's great. That's great to hear. He said that's the only time he's cried I think.
Ben: Does everybody know who Stuart Craig is?
Andrew: He is the production designer. He designs all the amazing Harry Potter sets.
Eric: And he was just on set when they did that and that's without editing, without hard cutting, without music.
Eric: That's how good - we're meant to believe that Alan Rickman's acting was really good.
Andrew: I believe Stuart Craig. He's not one to overhype anything.
Eric: Yeah, yeah.
Andrew: He puts himself down a lot.
Eric: He doesn't put out all these stories where he's crying over stuff.
Andrew: [laughs] Right.
Eric: He's pretty solid. Tried and tested.
Andrew: Unlike everyone else. "Best movie yet! Best movie yet!"
Jamie: Yeah, but, they're bigging it up, aren't they? Everyone's saying how the ending's going to be colossal, it's going to be incredible - surely you would say that.
Jamie: You're going to have to say that about Book 7, aren't you? You're going to say that the ending's going to be the best thing you've ever seen in the world, ever.
Andrew: [laughs] That's true. All right - what other Deathly Hallows news, Micah?
News: Dan Radcliffe Interview
Micah: Well, Dan Radcliffe has been doing some promotion for a charity that he is a big part of called The Trevor Project. And in an interview discussing it he also was asked questions about Deathly Hallows and he talked a little bit recently about the epilogue, the forest scene filming, and more...
Andrew: I have audio, I have audio.
Micah: ...you have audio - oh, look at that.
Andrew: Would you like audio? Yes, here you go.
[Interview audio plays]
Interviewer: Epilogue? Have you done it yet - have you seen yourself old - have you seen any of the tests or anything?
Daniel Radcliffe: No, not yet. We've done a few tests and it does look really, really rather good. And hopefully - the one thing I'll say - is that my daughter is hopefully going to be played by the daughter of Amanda Knight who is the head of the makeup department...
Daniel Radcliffe: ...and she was born a week before I got the part. And is now nine. And so it's the kind of physical embodiment of how long we've been there. [laughs]
Interviewer: Wow. [laughs]
Daniel Radcliffe: And she's got red hair like Ginny and blue eyes like me, so she's perfect to play our daughter.
Interviewer: A fitting testament to the passage of time, right?
Daniel Radcliffe: Absolutely! I couldn't have put it better myself.
[Interview audio ends]
Andrew: So that's kind of cool - they're making it sort of go full circle in a subtle little way.
Jamie: That is kind of cool, yeah.
Micah: A lot of people had a problem with the blue eyes comment.
Eric: [laughs] Yeah.
Eric: What color are Harry's eyes?
Micah: Not blue.
Ben: "Green as a fresh pickled toad, the one who conquered the Dark Lord".
Eric: I was like, "Wow, that's pretty cool"...
Jamie: Green as a pack of pickles. Bet you haven't heard that for awhile.
Eric: Jamie, your mission is complete.
Ben: So what is The Trevor Project? It's for...
Andrew: The Trevor Project, it's this - it's basically this hotline that people who are maybe in the closet or unsure of their sexuality, they can call and ask for - get some help, like counseling sort of, over the phone.
Jamie: Why is it called The Trevor Project?
Jamie: But why is is called that?
Andrew: I guess it's named after someone.
Ben: Probably Trevor?
Andrew: Someone named Trevor.
Ben: And didn't Dan Radcliffe come out and say that he's not gay?
Andrew: He's not gay.
Andrew: Sorry Ben. Ooh!
Jamie: Good one.
Eric: I saw your disappointed news post Andrew.
Ben: I'm going to start a new segment called Dear Dan.
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Andrew: Frankly, I thought it was kind of uncalled for. Why is MTV asking? I don't know...
Ben: But everyone's dying to know Andrew.
Andrew: But there's not - nobody's dying to know, there hasn't been some wild speculation over Dan's sexuality so...
Ben: Oh, but there has been. Let's be honest.
Jamie: I thought there was a while ago. Yeah, I thought there was.
Andrew: I guess, I guess.
Eric: Actually guys I have an answer for you. It's actually named the Trevor Project because it's based on a short film named Trevor which was a dramedy about a gay 13 year old boy who tries to commit suicide. So it's actually this little known short film named Trevor, so that's how that happened.
Andrew: Oh, okay.
Micah: Yeah so he does talk about a lot more in those interviews. They're - they're broken up into about ten different little segments. He talks about filming the forest scene with Gary Oldman and David Thewlis. And also that he's very sad that the end of Deathly Hallows filming is near and that about four or five months are left in shooting. So that takes us just about up to Summer time.
Andrew: And that's interesting because, you know, they - they started in February 2009. They started filming in February 2009 and they thought it was going to take a year. They were going to wrap up in about March or April. Now it's pushed back to July so I don't know, is that a good sign that maybe they're - they're putting in some extra time into filming these scenes, because clearly things have been pushed back.
Eric: They're working on the third part. They're working on the third...
Andrew: [laughs] The third part.
Ben: Or - yeah [laughs]. Or maybe - or maybe they're just poor estimators of time.
Andrew: Maybe too. I guess it's probably is hard to predict how long it's going to take to shoot two films back to back.
Jamie: Yeah that is true. That...
Andrew: Plus they had to break for Half-Blood Prince so they're probably going to have to break for the opening of the theme park.
News: Helena Bonham Carter Interview
Micah: Absolutely. So another person who has been making the rounds because of Alice in Wonderland is Helena Bonham Carter. And she revealed some interesting information, saying that she really doesn't think that she's going to be in the first part of Deathly Hallows. She says most of her scenes come in the second so that can give us a little bit of an idea of where these two films are going to be split.
Eric: So her - wait - Hermione doesn't use the Polyjuice Potion to turn into Bellatrix until the - the Gringotts scene right? Like...
Eric: Until they have to break into her Gringotts vault. Okay so...
Ben: Am I the only one who thinks Bellatrix is kind of hot?
Andrew: She is hot.
Ben: Like in a...
Micah: Naughty sort of way?
Andrew: Now do you think it's...
Ben: Creepy goth sort of way?
Andrew: Did you think that when you read the book? Or just seeing Helena play her on screen?
Ben: Well, when I read the book, you know, I liked the power. You know, Bellatrix is very powerful.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Jamie: Ben, Ben, are you attracted to strong women? Is that what you're saying?
Ben: Yeah, that is what I'm saying.
Andrew: Bodybuilding women.
Ben: Women on steroids!
Andrew: What - what else did she say?
Micah: Well, she did talk a little bit about the scene that Eric mentioned - having to play the role of Hermione and that it was interesting to go back and be 17-years-old. She wishes that she could actually do that in real life.
Andrew: Mmhm. Well I thought one of the bigger quotes from her was when she said, "I do get a good death scene". That should be awesome.
Ben: [as Mrs. Weasley] "Not my daughter, you bitch!"
Jamie: Yeah, that'll be interesting.
Andrew: Yeah, it will be.
Eric: I was thinking about that the other day. Does he say that in the audiobook? Does either Jim Dale or Stephen Fry, do they...
Andrew: Well, they must.
Jamie: They must do, yeah.
Eric: They must, but has anyone actually heard them curse?
Andrew: No, we should get the clip. That's probably a good clip.
Ben: Not my daughter, you bleep.
Eric: See what I'm saying? Okay.
Andrew: I don't think they bleep it out.
Ben: I know.
Micah: But it's not the first time that "bitch" was used in the series.
Eric: No, I mean - but - and he does say it in Prisoner of Azkaban. Like, I've heard that. It's obviously a different context, but when it's screamed in capitals...
Jamie: Who says it in Prisoner of Azkaban?
Ben: Aunt Marge when she's talking about...
Eric: She's talking about dogs, breeding...
Jamie: Oh, yeah, but that's in a different context.
Eric: Yeah, that's what I said. I mean, it's the same word.
Ben: But a bitch is a bitch.
Eric: So many people e-mail in and they're like, "Oh, there's a curse word in Prisoner of Azkaban and you guys missed it."
Andrew: Whatever. It's a finer point. We didn't miss it, we did talk about it a couple of episodes ago. So, anyway, but, yeah, Helena did say that her last day of filming was filming this death scene, so I guess that's a good way to go out.
Jamie: Can I just make a correction? It's not Huh-lane-ah. It's Helena.
Andrew: Helena. Sorry. Sorry.
Jamie: [laughs] Wow. You guys.
Eric: Helena has been ruling here, Jamie, because we haven't had you, so I don't even...
Eric: ...know the difference any more. I'm just...
Jamie: You guys say some weird things. You really do.
Andrew: I think that may be the American English pronunciation gap, but sorry.
News: Jason Isaacs Interview
Micah: All right. And then final bit of interviews was with Jason Isaacs, who plays Lucius Malfoy. So he did a couple of interviews in promotion of his new film and he talked a lot about just leaving the Potter films as a whole, that he's done filming and that he's very upset that he has to part with his wig.
Eric: And the cane.
Micah: And the cane.
Andrew: They should let him keep that wig. They said they weren't going to let him keep it. I mean, it's just like give it to him. You know they have more than one.
Jamie: It's probably quite expensive, though. I bet it's real human hair.
Jamie: Or some type of thing. Unicorn hair.
Andrew: [laughs] Unicorn hair. That would be pretty awesome. I'd wear that.
Micah: But one quote from him was, "there's one long sequence where everyone left standing when the forces of good meet the forces of evil." That is going to be a pretty cool scene.
Andrew: Yeah. That reminds me of that giant Order of the Phoenix poster that was on billboards where you saw the good people on the left and the bad people on the right. But you never actually saw a scene that look like that in the film, it was just a promotional poster. So hopefully...
Jamie: What was the slogan for that? I can't remember.
Andrew: I can't remember either.
Micah: It's getting darker.
Eric: It's Order of the Phoenix. "You will lose everything."
Jamie: Right, that was a cool slogan. That was quite good.
News: Theme Park Updates
Micah: All right, moving onto some theme park news, little updates. We've gotten a lot of new pictures over the course of a few weeks, since we've done our last show and it looks like the theme park is more or less coming together.
Andrew: I would hope so.
Micah: Yeah, not a whole lot more that I have to say about it.
Micah: We got a look at some new store fronts and new arial shots. Check it out in our galleries.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, there's nothing, I guess, new to report, though Orlando - or Universal Orlando met with the Central Florida Vacation Home Managers and they revealed a couple of interesting things. They said there is going to be a frog choir that will perform five times a day in the park.
Eric: That's cute....
Jamie: A frog choir?
Ben: I'm going to go audition.
Andrew: All right...
Jamie: You aren't a frog Ben.
News: Potter Video Games
Micah: And last show we talked about both videos games, EA as well as the Lego Harry Potter video game and it looks like Electronic Arts will be doing a Deathly Hallows video game.
Micah: Yeah, exactly. And it probably will be just Part I, as we spoke about on the last show, and this came up by a tweet by James Phelps where he said he was back at Leavesden for a bit of press regarding the new HP7 game. It looks really impressive from everything we've seen of it.
Micah: I can't really get too high on that, though.
Andrew: Yeah. They said that about the other ones, too. [laughs] So, whatever! I'm sorry, I'm not losing interest or anything, it's just that as we discussed before the video games are not good.
Micah: No, they're not.
Jamie: Well, Order of the Phoenix was okay.
Ben: If they really wanted to promote this game, they should take a page out of this new Major League Baseball game that's coming out...
Ben: ...the first person to throw - to pitch a perfect game wins a million dollars.
Jamie: That's incredible!
Ben: So what they should do is they should have the first person to beat the game or whatever...
Ben: ...should get some type of prize. That would really promote it. I should work for Electronic Arts.
Andrew: The first person to defeat Voldemort or something.
Andrew: That'd be cool.
Andrew: [laughs] That's a cool idea!
News: J.K. Rowling Updates Twitter - Sort of
Micah: Yep. And speaking of Twitter, J.K. Rowling updated her account to say:
"This is the real me. But you won't be hearing from me often, I am afraid, as pen and paper is my priority at the moment."
Jamie: Wow! Deja vu! Deja vu.
Eric: I just have to complain about this, okay. Here's the woman who has written 1,084,000 words for the Harry Potter books - and this is why Jo is not a good fit for Twitter. She tweets and literally says the same things she's already said on Twitter. She reuses - ten of these eighteen words are reused from her last tweet, saying that "pen and paper is her priority at the moment."
Jamie: You'd think she'd have P.R. people doing it, though.
Andrew: Yeah. In her defense...
Ben: Jo, I'll do your Tweeter - Twitter.
Micah: Whoa, careful there. Careful.
Jamie: Steady on, Ben.
Ben: Sorry, Jo.
Andrew: In Jo's defense, I think she may not know how Twitter works. I think she may think...
Ben: Oh! Are you calling Jo dumb?
Ben: Are you calling one of the most prolific writers that ever...
Andrew: Stop it!
Ben: ...of all time dumb?
Andrew: I'll tell you what happened. She or her assistant may have been looking at the @replies, the recent ones, and people may be asking, "Is this really you? Is this really you?" So she decided, oh, let me put out another update for people who may have not read my other tweets. I...
Ben: Other tweet. Singular.
Jamie: Yeah, other tweet.
Andrew: Her first three tweets. There are three tweets in a row when she first sent it out. It was this message, but in three tweets. So I think she just - I don't know. It's obviously a disappointment to most of her followers.
Eric: But she is writing.
Andrew: Yeah, that was the good news. We hear that she's still working on something.
Ben: Now do you think...
Jamie: I wonder what it is.
Ben: When she announces something, do you think we're going to find out about it via Twitter?
Andrew: I hope so.
Ben: Or do you think she's going to, you know, release a press release through her agent or do you think...
Andrew: I bet we'll hear...
Ben: Do you think she's going to use technology in advance?
Andrew: I bet we'll hear - she'll be like, "Announcement coming soon about something" or something like that. Maybe she'll tease us on Twitter and then let the official announcement come out via press release.
Micah: Well, the website is pretty much finished, right? I don't think she's really going to use that anymore.
Andrew: [laughs] She's done with that. Yeah.
Jamie: Her website, you mean?
Andrew: Yeah, who cares?
Ben: When's the last time she updated it?
Andrew: It's been a while.
Eric: Well, birthdays keep popping up, right? I mean, you get that...
Micah: But that's all automated.
Ben: Yeah, Jo doesn't go in and update.
Andrew: Yeah, rolls out of bed, "Oh, it's Ron's birthday!" Updates the calendar.
[Eric and Jamie laugh]
Andrew: But, yeah, it definitely would be nice to see J.K. Rowling put out some real tweets. And you know, I've got to be honest, she was at the Brit Awards a couple weeks ago. That's an all-day thing. She could take ten seconds to send out a tweet or two.
Jamie: Yeah, why doesn't she?
Andrew: I don't know. Because she says pen and paper is her priority.
Eric: Pen and paper is her priority.
Ben: That's B.S.
Andrew: I know!
Andrew: On the other hand, maybe she wants to put a lot of thought into her tweets. [laughs] Not many people do that.
Ben: This is true.
Ben: Most people are just posting emo crap on there.
Micah: I mean, if she really wanted to she could respond to, what, five tweets a week?
Andrew: Yeah, I can't see her doing that though. She's too...
Jamie: Aw, that would get so annoying though!
Ben: What if Jo starts being emo on Twitter?
[Andrew and Jamie laugh]
Jamie: I hate this book series! It screwed my life.
Ben: She's like, "I just don't want to do it anymore!"
Ben: "I'm done!"
Andrew: Can you imagine? Wow, that would be huge. All right, Micah, and the final...
Andrew: ...story of the day.
News: Rowling and Meyer at the Oscars
Micah: Along the same lines with J.K. Rowling and looking to appeal to a younger demographic, the Oscar producers asked both her and Stephenie Meyer to present together at this year's ceremony. However, both were not available.
Ben: Now do you think this is because of a feud?
Jamie: ...who's Stephenie Meyer again?
Andrew: Stephenie Meyer is the author of Twilight.
Jamie: I know, I know. I'm being sarcastic.
Ben: Now do you think this is...
Eric: It's got to be a feud.
Ben: Do you think this is symbolic of a feud?
Ben: There must be...
Andrew: It's not a feud.
Jamie: Of course there's not a feud.
Ben: Yeah, coincidence? I think not, man.
Andrew: No, no, no.
Ben: One thing Jo taught us is that there's no such thing as a coincidence.
Andrew: No, I'll tell you what it is. It has nothing to do with Stephenie Meyer. J.K. Rowling is not going to fly to L.A. to present an award. That's ridiculous. She doesn't present...
Andrew: ...awards. Because she's across the world!
Ben: She's too high and mighty, pen and paper is her priority.
Jamie: Andrew, she can practically charter a plane to herself. I'm sure she isn't going to worry about it. It's not like she has to be at work the next day.
Andrew: I'm not saying she's worrying about it financially, but we know that Jo doesn't travel the globe to do P.R. stuff. She's a very...
Andrew: Yeah. She's a very private person. So she's not going to go on...
Jamie: Yeah, but...
Ben: No, this reeks of scandal, guys.
Ben: This is - I have a feeling. Mark my words, this is going to be the biggest thing since Tiger Woods cheating on his wife right here.
Jamie: Oh, whatever! Whatever, Ben.
Andrew: Tabloid article! That'd be a good April Fools prank.
Ben: This'll be huge.
Andrew: We should write it.
Muggle Mail: Death Omens
Andrew: Yeah. All right, let's get to Muggle Mail now. Eric, could you read the first one?
Eric: Yup! First one is from Franki, age 15 from Adelaide. He says:
"I was thinking after your first..."
"...after your last Episode, 192, that maybe there was something more to all of the death omens than dramatic irony. Because Harry is seeing all of these death omens in 'Prisoner of Azkaban,' he begins to freak out, but I think that this fear is there to show how much Harry grows over the series. In 'Prisoner of Azkaban,' Harry is only 13, and is afraid of dying, but in 'Deathly Hallows,' he's 17, and while he's still a bit afraid of dying, he sees - he still faces death with putting up a fight. I think this shows again the journey that Harry makes from the start of the books to the end. Of course, the omens are also a pretty cool dramatic irony because in the end, Harry does die. Any thoughts?"
Micah: Well, Ben, does Harry really die? I know you've written a thing or two about this.
Ben: He should have died.
Micah: [laughs] He should have.
Ben: He doesn't die. I mean, he die - he doesn't die.
Andrew: He goes in limbo.
Ben: He's in limbo.
Eric: But he does.
Eric: He dies enough to - the part of him that is Voldemort's soul dies. So...
Eric: ...Voldemort's soul gets unstuck from Harry.
Ben: And that's symbolic of overcoming death.
Eric: What Frankie's saying here about Harry being vulnerable when he's young, I think we touched on that in Chapter-by-Chapter last week.
Muggle Mail: Time Turner
Andrew: Jamie, could you read the next e-mail?
Jamie: Destiny, age 23, from Minnesota. She writes:
"Hi, everyone. I just got done listening to Episode 192, and wanted to correct something Andrew said. Referring to how Hermione got the Time Turner, he said that in the movie, Hermione told Harry Dumbledore gave her the Time Turner, but it was in fact Professor McGonagall, as in the book."
Schoolboy, Andrew. Absolute schoolboy.
"Hermione tells Harry, 'This is a Time Turner, Harry. McGonagall gave it to me first term. This is how I've been getting to my lessons all year.' Just thought I would write in and correct Andrew's huge mistake."
"Love the Chapter-by-Chapter segments. Keep podcasting. Lots of love, Destiny."
Andrew: She said, "little" for the record, but oopsies.
Jamie: I don't think she did.
Andrew: No? I'm reading. It says "little." Ben, how about the next e-mail?
Muggle Mail: Beware a Red-Headed Man
Ben: Claire, 12, from Media, Pennsylvania - is it Media or Med-e-ah? Eric?
Ben: Is it Media?
"Hi, MuggleCasters. I just learned about MuggleCast a couple of weeks ago. I love the show, but anyway, in Episode 192, you were talking about the predictions made in Trelawney's class, and how many of them were foreshadowing. Well, if I remember correctly, I don't have the third book in front of me right now, when Trelawney was going around and telling people random predictions, she turned to Lavender and said, 'Beware a redhead,' or something like that. That is obvious foreshadowing of the Ron/Lavender relationship in 'Half-Blood Prince.' Just wanted to make that connection. Thanks."
Andrew: Look at that little connection, a little foreshadowing.
Eric: Is that...
Jamie: I've got one on that. I don't think it was. I think that's a good one, but I think it's the fox that killed her rabbit. Foxes are typically red. That's a redhead.
Eric: Redhaired foxes.
Andrew: Oh yeah. That's a good idea.
Ben: Or perhaps it could be both.
Eric: I don't get it though. Trelawney tells her to beware a redhead man, not befriend and crush on a red haired man. So I would say it's a contradiction.
Jamie: And kiss passionately.
Andrew: Well - I mean their relationship ends up failing. So maybe that's why Trelawney would get a prediction to tell Lavender to beware.
Eric: That's true. That's very true.
Jamie: Maybe, yeah.
Muggle Mail: Time Travelling
Andrew: Okay. Micah, how about you take the - Oh and by the way, we'll discuss that a little more in Chapter-by-Chapter, coming up in a little bit.
Micah: Next e-mail from Scott, 21, from Roscoe, Illinois and he says:
"Hey guys. I was just listening to your last podcast and thought of something when you brought up the idea that Hermione is older than she should be because of using the Time Turner. I think that might not actually be the case. When they were all at the Ministry at the end of 'Order of the Phoenix,' there was a Death Eater that has his head fallen into a rather larger Time Turner clock. It seemed to me that as his head was traveling through time, his age was changing. The only reason that he did not travel away to an actual different time could be explained by the fact that the rest of his body was not traveling. If you take these ideas to be true, it would mean that when Hermione is traveling back in time, she is actually getting younger by the amount of time she is traveling back."
Jamie: God, this is an age-old question, really, isn't it.
Ben: The grandfather paradox.
Eric: Ah, that is interesting. So...
Jamie: But Ben, this isn't the grandfather paradox.
Ben: [laughs] Whatever, it's the same thing.
Jamie: You're just trying to - you're just trying to look clever, aren't you?
Ben: Well, I mean, if you travel back to kill your grand - okay, listen. If you go back in time...
Jamie: Ben, you're just...
Ben: No, no Jamie, Jamie, you try to sound British all the time, so just shut up.
Eric: His head is shrinking, that's - he's becoming a baby.
Ben: It's not possible! Because then if you traveled back before you were born, what would you do? You'd rebirth into a sperm cell?
Eric: You'd be nothing. You would be nothing.
Ben: Like, come on.
Jamie: But Ben, you just - I just raked something out, and you're like, [in smart voice] "Hmmm, the Eisenhower paradox."
[Andrew and Ben laugh]
Andrew: Well, Jamie, what do you think about this?
Jamie: It's so hard to get your head around time travel and stuff...
Andrew: Yeah, it is.
Jamie: It honestly could be anything. I guess it depends what theory you believe in on why time travel happens.
Eric: Well, it's an interesting catch, too. I mean, it's a catch because it is not a contradiction, but I mean it's interesting. Because it's a different observance of time. But I still think - I stand by that time is relative, and so when someone's traveling through time they do not age. Though those around them do. That's my argument. But...
Andrew: Episode 59, from October 14, 2006, is when we did an episode focusing on time travel. Also, I wanted to let everyone know we've been bringing up the Parallels Episode. We've been mentioning it a lot and we always reference that episode. Micah and I looked into it and it's Episode 114. That's when we went into all the parallel stuff, and we did - we talked about it a little more on the following episode, Episode 115, based on some listener e-mails. So if you want to hear our discussion on that, it was a great episode. I'll add it to the Wall of Fame this week. Check out that episode, Episode 114, from September 24, 2007. And the following episode, Episode 115. So there you go.
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