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MuggleCast 202 Transcript

Show Intro

[Intro music plays]

Andrew: All right. Good evening everybody. Look at this. What a Monday, what a Monday folks! Ben and Matt here with me. Hello gentlemen.

Matt: Hello.

Ben: Hello Andrew.

Andrew: Ben it's been a while since I've seen you in the studio. It's quite a pleasure as always to look at your face.

Ben: Likewise.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: And on Skype we have Eric Scull and Micah Tannenbaum. Hello gentlemen.

Micah: Hello.

Eric: Hey.

[Intro music ends]

Andrew: And how are you guys doing?

Micah: Awesome.

Andrew: Great! Well guess what? There is a lot to talk about today. We have this amazing new trailer and first I have to say thanks everyone who is tuning in on UStream. We have a thousand people listening right now.

Micah: Wow!

Andrew: "Gosh! I thought Harry Potter was all over." There was a lot of hype leading up to this trailer I have to say because Warner Bros. announced it a few days ago. We had heard some rumors that it was going to be coming with Eclipse and it finally came. And prior to the trailer being released I was pretty much shaking out of nervousness because I feel like there is so much riding on this trailer. Everybody was twittering about it. Everybody was crashing MuggleNet. It was such a big deal. This is - I have to say I think this is one of the biggest trailers, and one of the best trailers we've seen for a Harry Potter film. Eric Scull would you agree with that?

Eric: I wouldn't go that far Andrew. It's got its moments.

Andrew: But what - but not ñ never mind I don't want to talk to you. Micah Tannenbaum...

Micah: Yes.

Andrew: surely think this is the greatest trailer ever.

[Ben laughs]

Micah: Surely I think this is the greatest trailer. No, I agree with you. This is interesting to me that they were able to take both parts of Deathly Hallows and market them so early. I'm a little bit surprised that they went ahead and put so much of Part II into this trailer.

Andrew: Yeah. Absolutely. And...

Eric: But you're excited about that? See that's what I don't like about...

Micah: Yes and no.

Eric: That's what I - I mean that's - I think that raises some serious questions.

Andrew: Well the good news is that this means that we're going to have another two and a half minute trailer dedicated solely to Part I, I would think. Right?

Eric: Don't count on it.

Andrew: Or are you worried, Eric, that there's not enough good stuff in Part I so they have to combine the trailers?

Eric: Well I'm just worried - look I - I just - I was expecting a solely Part I trailer with today's release and there's a lot of Part II but it just makes me think that up to the day that Part I is released they'll be doing trailers like, "Tomorrow Harry Potter: Part I".

Matt: Eric, this is the first trailer though. And it...

Eric: Yes.

Matt: The trailer is The Deathly Hallows.

Eric: It's not...

Matt: It's not Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1. It's Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows trailer.

Eric: Right and...

Matt: It encompasses...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...the entire movie.

Ben: Well Eric, Eric, look at it this way though...

Eric: Once again I thought this was - once again I thought this was advertised as being Part I and I was very excited for Part I. We've had these specials where they've shown us footage from both films and don't get me wrong, a lot of it looks really epic and the way that they were able to merge the two films together into one trailer is great but I was expecting and I think I - I'd be a little bit happier if it were just footage from Part I because I want to get excited. I want to be able to separate the films and be able to get excited about each of them. The fact that there's two movies at once, I don't know if they're insecure, I don't know why they have to keep marketing that there's these two major films coming out. I mean I just - I question their motives here.

Trailer: Voldemort and Harry in the Forest

Andrew: Well let's get into the breakdown of this trailer. We have a list of a million different scenes. I mean they packed a lot of content up here. First of all, it opens up with someone telling Voldemort, "No sign of him, my Lord." And we see the trio walking through the countryside river. And then Harry begins his walk in the forest towards Voldemort, and this was a very drawn-out scene. I mean they dedicated a good 25 seconds to just this part of the film, and it is Part II. And I mean - I have to say, Dan Radcliffe as an actor has gotten - has become an amazing actor. I mean can you imagine filming this scene with all the build up, all the lead up to this moment? This is one of the most epic scenes in the film.

Eric: It's kind of creepy.

Micah: Right, yeah. It is creepy, but at the same time I thought Harry was going to walk up to Voldemort and say, "Gotcha," and everyone was going to laugh.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: I mean that's what that scene looks like. He looks very uncomfortable and obviously so, but I don't know. A little bit of questionable there.

Andrew: Well, and then we see Harry - well, we see Voldemort casting the Avada Kedavra spell. And then...

Ben: Why would you show that, though?

Andrew: You disappointed by that? Too soon?

Ben: Well, yeah. I mean, everyone was talking about how they didn't want to see too much in this, and I feel like that was kind of pushing the envelope. And I just wanted to comment on what Eric said about why wouldn't they make this just the first part of the trailer? I mean, this first part - this trailer just about Part I. And I think it might have something to do with the fact that the end of Movie 1 may not be compelling enough for them to make a really exciting trailer about it, so they're trying to get everybody excited. And marketing it as one package probably makes sense.

Andrew: That's what I'm thinking.

Eric: Yeah. I understand, and I've also heard the argument that they're showing us both parts to sort of keep it up in the air where the split will be, to kind of make it ambiguous. And I just wonder if that were the reason why - how long they're going to just keep it up. Because I'll be excited about the films no matter what. I think this trailer in showing us parts from both films has shown that they're both going to be really good. I don't really particularly care where the split's going to be except to say that I would like to start focusing on a single movie.

Trailer: Gringotts

Andrew: So when he casts the Avada Kedavra spell - jump right into the action. And one of the first scenes that you see is Harry, Griphook and Bellatrix in Gringotts.

[Eric and Matt laugh]

Matt: That's an awesome scene.

Eric: This was cool.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: This was cool.

Andrew: Yeah. Why did you like it, Eric? Finally, something positive out of you.

Eric: It's only a second long, but they're riding in the mine cart and that's just - I don't know.

Micah: Griphook's bald, did you see that?

Andrew: He's balding. I mean, I don't...

Ben: He's going bald. I didn't know that goblins suffered from male pattern baldness.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: That's news to me.

Andrew: Well, maybe it's because they're moving so fast and the wind is just pushing his hair back.

Eric: Ben, Ben - when 800 years old you turn, look as good you will not.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: This is true.

Matt: It's also the only scene that we get to see Hermione as Bellatrix, too.

Andrew: Oh yeah! Actually I was just going to ask, why - because Bellatrix looks awfully worried and that's Hermione, right?

Ben: Emma does a great Bellatrix here.

Andrew: Yeah, she does.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: This is the role that she's been waiting for.

Andrew: Warwick Davis, by the way - of course, this is him playing Griphook - he was so excited for this trailer. This is the trailer, he confirmed on Twitter today, this is the trailer that he - that they showed everyone on set on the last day of filming. So...

Ben: It looks like he's wearing - it looks like Griphook's wearing a cast iron bra or something.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: I don't know what that thing is, but it looks kind of funny.

Andrew: I know exactly what - I think it's in front of the motorcycle or in front of the little cart thing - it's rear-view mirrors or something. I don't know.

Ben: Well, you don't get much of a view of the chest.

Matt: Yeah, it's right on his chest.

Andrew: [laughs] But those aren't actually on his chest, are they?

Micah: It's pointing down at Bellatrix, that's what you can't see.

Andrew: Oh!

Micah: Griphook's got a bird's-eye view.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Oh my God!

Eric: Oh God!

Micah: Who else is in this cart with those two?

Ben: It looks like Ron.

Micah: It's hard to make out. Or those three?

Andrew: Maybe Ron...

Ben: Is that Ollivander behind him?

Matt: Well no, they put one of the Impervius curses.

Ben: Imperius curses?

Matt: Yeah, Imperius curses. I'm sorry, jeez.

Ben: Who's behind the goblin there? Is that...

Andrew: We'll never know. He's hiding.

Ben: But who in the books? Can someone in the chat tell us? I can't remember. Who else went with them?

Andrew: Who else was there?

Matt: The goblin - Travers.

Andrew: Travers, Of course. The other one.

Eric: Doesn't - don't they have to disguise themselves further? It's not just Bellatrix that goes in.

Andrew: Right, right.

Eric: She is like, "And oh it's my cousin too!" [laughs]

Trailer: Ollivander

Andrew: So moving along. We then see a shot of Ollivander and he's looking very, very weak and tired. And I think we saw that shot very briefly in one of the earlier trailers.

Matt: Yeah.

Trailer: Motorbike

Andrew: But so nothing to say there. I've got to say, this next shot, this one really got me excited. Harry and Hagrid on the motorbike.

Matt: Well, Hagrid's unconscious!

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We - I didn't notice - well personally, I didn't notice at first when the screen shots were revealed that you see that Hagrid's just sort of laying there and Harry's stepping out of his little passenger thing and holding the handles. Now - [laughs]...

Ben: Isn't this kind of funny because in the first book Hagrid is carrying Harry, the sleeping baby along and this is kind of like things coming full circle.

Andrew: Yeah! Yeah, you're right.

Ben: Harry's steering the sleeping Hagrid. Saving his life.

Andrew and Matt: Awww.

Andrew: Awww, you're so right, Ben! Awww, that's so cute. So I'm just thinking how Hagrid's holding on - I don't know - I would totally fall off if I was up in the air flying on a motorbike.

Ben: Well, you would think if you would weigh around 1000 pounds that your mass might carry you backwards, but.

Andrew: Exactly! So why wouldn't you fall off?

Matt: It's magic. It's magic guys, it's magic.

Trailer: Shell Cottage

Andrew: All right, well yeah, that's besides the point. So then we get to Shell Cottage and we see Hermione and Ron and I guess this is...

Ben: Look at Rupert, looking a little scruffy there.

Andrew and Matt: Yeah.

Matt: He's getting come facial hair, look at that.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Yeah he totally is. Well you see, they've been on the run for a while, so they haven't had much time to hit up the Cheap Cuts - Great clips! That's what it's called.

Ben: Yeah, Emma looks pretty distraught there.

Matt: Well, Dobby just died.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Oh, okay.

[Matt laughs]

Trailer: Hermione

Andrew: So then - okay. And then we see this shot from - we saw this in one of the earlier trailers too - again - Hermione walking away. Is this - do you guys think this is her dropping her parents off in Australia or is this her putting - ruining her parents memory? What do you think this point was, at one minute one second in?

Matt: I don't know.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Didn't we talk about this on another live show that we thought...

Eric: Again with Hermione and the mansion.

Matt: Harry was with her under the Invisibility Cloak or something?

Andrew: Oh, right. Some are saying, I think they're right, some are saying that this is a real shot of Emma in real life going to Brown University.

Matt: Oh right, right.

Andrew: That makes sense. Yeah.

[Eric laughs]

Matt: Oh, memories.

Eric: She wouldn't come back for the seventh film unless they did that.

Matt: It's a short documentary.

Andrew: Filmed on location? [laughs]

Matt: It's a short film before the film.

Trailer: Apparating

Andrew: All right, so moving along. Then we see Harry is on the ground and I think we realized that this is when they just apparated. Right? Out of London?

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: Yeah, that one was...

Matt: This was when Ron gets spliced.

Trailer Title: Finale

Andrew: Right, so that one was pretty obvious. Then we get the title, "The finale of the world wide phenomenon."

Ben: That accurately describes it. But Eric, right, it's only the first part of the finale. They should have made that clear, right Eric?

Matt: The first finale of the world wide phenomenon.

Trailer: Hogwarts Protection

Andrew: Someone Photoshop this! And then we see Hogwarts all protected with its spells.

Matt: Is it getting destroyed though?

Andrew: No, no, no. This is the ñ oh right the protection getting destroyed, right.

Ben: Oh, I was about to say looks like Hogwarts from Hell.

Andrew: Yeah.

[Eric and Matt laugh]

Matt: Hell's fury.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, I don't know, what do you guys think of the special effects?

Matt: Well we got to see - it basically is the conclusion of what we saw in Half-Blood Prince when the Death Eaters were trying to get into the castle. That there was that big, dome force-field around Hogwarts...

Andrew: Right.

Matt: this is the same dome force-field getting destroyed.

Andrew: Yeah, no I know this is in the books, I'm just wondering visually how it appears - because you know they've had some blunders over the series. They, of course - Sirius in the fireplace never looked so hot. I know our first reactions to this when it appeared in the MTV montage was that it was relatively - it's like, "Huh?" I thought it was a country at first. It looked like a country.

Matt: Like a globe?

Ben: It looked like a globe.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly.

Ben: Actually, that's the ozone layer and those are all the holes.

Andrew: Yeah.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Eric: They're getting very environmentally conscious, Ben. They feel like they've had precious few times to put out their messages.

Matt: Hogwarts is going green.

Trailer: Hogwarts Express

Andrew: Right, exactly. And then we see a Death Eater stopping the Hogwarts Express.

Eric: Ah, yeah.

Andrew: Didn't somebody say...

Eric: That was part of the montage too.

Andrew: Who do you guys think this is? Did someone say Ca - oh, Yaxley. Yaxley or Carrow - the Carrows, one of the two.

Matt: I think it's - I think it might be Yaxley.

Andrew: But I've got to say, this is a pretty cool shot because we've always associated the Hogwarts Express with, "la dee da dee da, joy! The kids are going back to Hogwarts," or, "Ah, it's the end of the year, all is well."

Ben: And this guy is just taking a crap on their joy.

Andrew: Right, exactly. He's standing right on the tracks, stopping the train, and...

Micah: What if the train just ran him over?

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: I know! Why do they have to slow down?

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Well, obviously, he's using magic...

Eric: The Hogwarts Express does not stop for anyone.

Andrew: That would be so funny though, and you would think - well, this gets into some book analysis - but you would think they would put some protection around the Hogwarts Express to make sure that nobody is going to stop them!

Ben: Well, but with Dumbledore gone, that's something only Dumbledore would think of.

Eric and

Matt: Yeah.

Ben: And with Dumbledore gone, no way.

Trailer: Harry's Wardrobe

Andrew: All right, fair enough. So, then we see a shot of Harry doing a quick head turn.

Matt: All sweaty and distraught.

Andrew: Yes. He has some dots on his head. He has a nice corduroy jacket on, I noticed.

Matt: Oh.

Andrew: Must be from - could be from American Eagle...

Matt: American Eagle.

Andrew: Right. Or Top Shop.

Matt: Or Banana Republic.

Trailer: Gregorovitch

Andrew: All right, then we see a title, "The Motion Picture Event of a Generation."

Matt: Okay.

Andrew: And then we see someone in - I guess this is - is this Ollivander's?

Matt: No, I think it's Gregorovitch.

Andrew: Oh right, of course. Yeah, we saw this picture earlier. He looks good.

Micah: He looks scared.

Andrew: Yeah, he does.

Matt: Yeah. He looks like he's been better.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Eric: He's seen better days.

Matt: [laughs] Yeah. He's seen better days than being attacked by Voldemort.

Trailer: Hermione's Hands

Andrew: And now this shot - we're going to have to spend a couple of minutes on this one. This is the shot, of course, after they apparated. Hermione has got her hands up. When we saw this shot on the Half-Blood Prince DVD in the Deathly Hallows trailer Hermione's hands were very clearly covered in blood. This is now not the case. As you can see they are squeaky clean and it's actually pretty apparent that you can tell they digitally cleaned the hands up.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: What happened here? Are they concerned that they were going to get an R rating?

Matt: Well, I think it is just for general audiences.

Andrew: You mean like the trailer?

Eric: Showing...

Andrew: Showing blood in the trailer?

Matt: Right. In the trailer, not in the film. Because it is obvious they are going to keep the blood in the film. I think it's just for general audiences watching the trailer.

Andrew: So you think it will come back?

Matt: It will definitely come back.

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: I mean, do you know how expensive that is? They have to do that frame by frame. By putting up - by clearing up all the blood.

Andrew: Right. So why would they waste their time doing it on the trailer?

Matt: Because it's only like a second.

[Andrew sighs]

Micah: Yeah. And wasn't Ron also...

Eric: I think showing...

Matt: Yeah. Ron was a lot more covered up with blood than this picture right here.

Andrew: I don't know. I don't know. This is worrying because I feel like there is so much action and death in the films that they might be considering like, "Oh my God. We're going to get an R rating and we don't want that."

[Eric laughs]

Ben: Maybe there is enough blood elsewhere that they don't want to waste their blood capital...

Andrew: [laughs] Blood capital.

Ben: ...on Hermione's silly hands.

Matt: There's a rule that you can only have a certain amount of blood...

Andrew: Right.

Matt: ...and they probably already had it. They used it up.

Andrew: Oh, of course. Okay, I was thinking something earlier - something else we thought - Oh! Hedwig dying. I mean some people are speculating that they decided not to kill Hedwig.

Ben: Poof.

Andrew: Right. Didn't go poof.

Eric: That would be nice. Mercy killing.

Matt: The owl has to die.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: But don't tell Jo that, she'll be like...

Ben: Can the feathers explode in redness? That would be cool.

Matt: I'm sure Jo would have done something if she heard about that.

Andrew: You must kill.

Eric: Yeah, she would be like, "You got to do it."

Matt: You must kill the owl!

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: The owl gets it.

Trailer: Dragon in Gringotts

Andrew: Well, so I certainly hope - now this is a bit worrying to me. Although part of me - it's just the nerd in me got excited when I noticed a little difference between the two trailers. That's just me. Okay and then we see the dragon entering Gringotts. This looks like the lobby because you can see all the...

Matt: Tellers.

Andrew: The teller stations. The tellers are long gone. They're totally not there. There was a small interview in USA Today with producer David Heyman about this shot and he said they purposefully made him look this pale to give the whole effect of how he was deep within Gringotts for so long.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: So I thought that was a clever idea although I never knew dragons could actually get tans from being outside.

Matt: Usually you get - you grow skin from ultraviolet radiation too. Maybe that's how it is with their scales.

Eric: That is a good point.

Andrew: Oh wow, you guys are so smart.

Eric: Actually, just before the dragon escapes, there is this text that floats across the screen. It says, "The Motion Picture Event of a Generation." I'm glad that somebody realized that this Harry Potter series was the motion picture event of a generation.

Andrew: Yeah, well, they're really hyping it up. This is the epic-ness of all...

Matt: Well, how is that not true though?

Ben: Well, that's until Breaking Dawn comes out next year.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: And that'll be the new...

Eric: Well, are they calling it Breaking Dawn, though? Because I heard, aren't they doing special tickets for "The Next Edition of the Twilight Saga?" It's not specifically Breaking Dawn: Part I that they're advertising? It's really weird.

Andrew: I don't know. I don't know.

Micah: I don't know. I thought that wasn't even necessary. I don't think you needed that in the trailer.

Andrew: Well, I think...

Eric: "The Motion Picture Event" - I think that sets up the "Part I. Boom! This November. Part II. Boom! Next July."

Matt: Yeah, so there you go, Eric!

Andrew: Yeah. I think - but, I think it sets up the...

Micah: So you do like the trailer!

Eric: No, I don't! I think it's - I think they should have stayed - I don't know. I'm so conflicted because my favorite part of this trailer is the scenes from Part II with the Death Eaters all in the hollow just looking at Harry, but...

Andrew: I think...

Ben: But that's in the second part.

Matt: Eric. Eric...

Ben: Eric, you can't have it both ways, man.

Eric: Eh.

Matt: You're talking crazy.

Andrew: I think this title card, "The Motion Picture Event of a Generation," is really to get the point across that, "Look guys, this frickin' movie franchise has been around for ten years now. Uh, we're going to make two awesome final movies."

Micah: Give us an Oscar.

Ben: We are a big deal, folks, is what it says.

Trailer: Ron with the Sword

Andrew: Yeah. All right, so, like I said, you see the dragon. Then you see Ron, in a cutaway shot. He's looking - he's crawling on the ground and he's looking up...

Eric: He's scared of something.

Andrew: Yeah, scared of something.

Micah: It looks like he has the sword there, though. In the bottom right?

Andrew: Yeah. You're right, he does.

Ben: Eric, Eric, this is a perfect caption contest picture here, man.

Eric: Yeah, he'll be like, "What did you do, Ray?" And Ray will be like, "I'm sorry. It's a Stay Puft Marshmallow Man."

Micah: Wow.

Eric: Ghostbusters joke. Ghostbusters joke.

Andrew: Oh.

Matt: Okay.

Eric: Wow.

Matt: I'm up to speed now.

Andrew: All right.

Matt: So this has to be when he destroys the Horcrux, right?

Andrew: Yeah, probably, because we see another shot of him swinging the sword.

Matt: Right. I mean, how many times does Ron have a sword?

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Yeah, yeah. And Harry says, "Do it, Ron!" when he swings the sword in this trailer.

Andrew: Okay. And then the next shot is a shot of...

Trailer: Voldemort and the Death Eaters

Matt: My future desktop background.

Andrew: ...Voldemort.

Eric: Yeah, tell me about it!

Andrew: And all the Death Eaters. We see Voldemort, of course, in the front, then we see Bellatrix and a bunch of other people.

Matt: I'm so happy they're not wearing masks.

Eric: I was just going to say, where did they lose their masks? Did they cut back?

Andrew: Oh.

Matt: They don't need to hide anymore.

Ben: Yeah, they're out of hiding.

Eric: Oh. Wow.

Andrew: Also I think this really helps bring out the emotion.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: You know, because these Death Eaters, they're a bit crazy. And we needed to see Bellatrix's gorgeous face.

Matt: Yeah, I was getting tired of the masks anyway. I wanted to see the Death Eaters.

Andrew: Right, exactly.

Eric: You can only reinvent the mask so much.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: Anything else to say about this shot? It's a pretty cool shot.

Matt: It's an awesome shot.

Andrew: We've never seen this large of a group of Death Eaters.

Matt: Especially Voldemort just like slowly grinning when he gets closer.

Eric: Yeah. That's pretty impressive.

Ben: Voldemort's mouth looks like my grandma after she takes her dentures out. Just saying.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: But she has hair though, right?

Andrew: Can you do the face right now on camera, Ben?

Ben: I really can't, because you have got to have no teeth.

Andrew: Just cover up your teeth with your lips. Yeah, like...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Everyone is LOLing in the chat. You're so right, Ben.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Eric: I like...

Andrew: Were you going to say something, Eric?

Eric: Yeah. Right after Ron and Hermione are walking backwards and Ron is casting a spell?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: I think this is at Hogwarts because you can see the rubble and an archway that's down at the ground and I know there were pictures that were released earlier, prior to this trailer. They were screen caps from the trailer and I don't know if you guys want to talk about that, but obviously there's a scene coming up really fast where it's Harry and Voldemort in a bunch of rubble, and some people were speculating, "Is that the Great Hall?"

Andrew: Well, some people in the chat are thinking this is when Fred dies. And I think that would...

Eric: Oh...

Andrew: ...make sense because you see Ron visibly upset and Hermione's obviously awestruck...

Eric: Right.

Matt: And there's a lot of rubble around them, too.

Andrew: Right. And I see - actually, I do see an ear in the background there, so this is definitely the scene. [laughs]

Matt: Aw, too soon...

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: That's - bad joke.

Andrew: Somebody photoshop that, please? Put a giant ear in the background and it'll be amazing. [laughs]

Eric: Well, now there's a Death Eater on a broom and he's wearing a mask - oh, I guess that's to conceal his identity - I don't know. But yeah, they are out in the open, so that makes sense.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Why they wouldn't be wearing a mask...

Ben: Oh, Eric, here's the part you're waiting for.

Eric: What?

Matt: The next part.

Trailer Title: 2 Parts

Andrew: Oh - "Presented in 2 Parts." Now, I've got to say - I did not like this title card, like - I don't know, something about it, it's just so...

Matt: It's - I think it's the number.

Eric: Yeah...

Ben: Yeah, there's no space between it.

Eric: ...there's no space.

Ben: It's like "2Parts." It's like one word.

Andrew: Like 2Pac.

Ben: Yeah, exactly.

Eric: Yeah, exactly, exactly. "Presented in..."

Matt: "Presented in 2Pacs."

[Andrew, Ben, and Eric laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, and I - why do you have to - I don't know.

Eric: Again, it's - beating it around - I just don't know why they're doing it.

Matt: It's hyping it up, it's the first official trailer.

Eric: [sighs] Yeah, but we've had three previews now...

Matt: Yeah, but it hasn't been mainstream.

Eric: Some of those scenes...

Matt: People haven't seen it on their computers.

Eric: Yeah, I agree, and I'm watching it now in HD and I love how it looks, but, I mean, some of the things, like Harry laying in the - on his back in the forest are included in this. We've seen them before in the other previews and it's almost like - I don't know exactly when that occurs, but it's good to see. I just - I really wish they would - again, it's kind of mismatched. "Presented in 2 Parts." Oooh, wow! You know...?

Andrew: [laughs] "Wow!"

Eric: [laughs] Wow, two parts!

Andrew: When I'm in the theater...

Eric: Did you guys see this?

Matt: Well, I mean, Eric, do you honestly think that everybody knows that this is going to be in two parts?

Eric: Yes!

Andrew: Not everybody, not...

Eric: This is...

Ben: Not everybody has their homepage as MuggleNet.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Right! No one's seen - I mean - I'm surprised they showed so much. I mean - I was hoping - I was thinking that they were just going to show everything we've already seen just in one big complete trailer but they showed a lot of new content.

Andrew: Hmm. But - yeah.

Eric: But how much - for how much content would you say - do you think is in Part I that they're not showing?

Matt: I don't care.

Andrew: There's definitely more from Part II here I think. Right? Than Part I?

Matt: Well, it's definitely showing the entire climactic battle scenes.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: But they just finished filming production what, a couple of weeks ago?

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: So this is probably like most of the stuff they already have completed.

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: So - guys, what's the scene with Filch? He looks very happy about something.

Andrew: Well, hold on. Let's keep going in order here.

Matt: No. Let's go in order.

Trailer: Death Eater on a Broom

Andrew: We see a Death Eater on a broom and he's sort of flying away so I guess he got hit by a spell. Although it looks kind of goofy because like you don't see anything...

Matt: No. I think he's halting like he's stopping because maybe that's when...

Andrew: Ooh...

Matt: ...Voldemort starts catching up to them.

Andrew: Oh, yeah. It kind of does look like he's pulling back on his broom a bit too. All right, cool. And then we see this shot of Ron who is absolutely...

Trailer: Wet Ron

Matt: Wet.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: What do you guys think this is? It looks somewhere - oh! The Ministry. You could see The Ministry in the top.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: But what's - oh, oh! Was he transforming back?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah!

Eric: Oh.

Micah: So that's Yaxley, right? Behind him?

Andrew: Yeah, must be.

Micah: Isn't Yaxley the one who chases him down?

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah and it looks like Hagrid minus 200 pounds on the right side.

Matt: Right. I think that's actually a - is that a woman? No, it is a man.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Okay.

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