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Trailer: Bellatrix with the Knife


Andrew: Okay, so that's pretty - Yeah, look at that sweat on his face. Hmm. Poor guy. And then we see a cool shot of Bellatrix and she's got a really twisted face and it's sort of just like "Wahhh!"

[Eric laughs]

Matt: Well, it's like, "I'm going to kill you."

Andrew: Right.

Matt: It's the last look you see before you die.

Andrew: Is this - what - who - what - this - what do you think this is?

Matt: No, I'm positive this is the dagger when she kills Dobby with...

Andrew: Oh, really?

Eric: ...before they Apparate, because she's throwing something, and she throws a dagger at Dobby before they Apparate.

Andrew: Oh, no. Oh, you're right. Oh, no! Oh.

Eric: We already had a good shot of her killing Sirius. Now, we've got a great shot of her killing Dobby.

Andrew: [laughs] Why does she get all the great shots?

Matt: Because she's just awesome.



Trailer: Filch


Andrew: Okay. So now we see the shot of Filch. What did you want to say about this? We see some kids locked up behind him.

Eric: Oh, that's why he's happy.

Ben: It's his dream come true.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: So - so wait. This is actually - this gives me great hope. Obviously, again, not until Part II, or maybe this has to show...

Matt: Which one is it, Eric?

Eric: ...what's going on at Hogwarts, because Filch locking kids up, the Carrows, Snape ruling the school...

Andrew: Oh, right. Okay.

Eric: Because if the kids are locked up in the back and he's walking away smiling, that doesn't - do you think that particularly happens during the final battle scene, or is this - does this - is this proof that they're actually going to show some of what's going on at Hogwarts while the trio are out in the woods? I mean...

Andrew: I think they do...

Eric: ...I'm hopeful.

Andrew: Yeah. I think they do have to show some stuff at Hogwarts, even though they made it pretty clear Part I is going to be a big road movie. I think...

Micah: It's a road opera.

Andrew: Road opera, right.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Andrew: I think that they have to go back to Hogwarts because they have to remind the viewers what's going on back at the school and kids like to see the school.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: So that there's less catch-up, too.

Andrew: Right, right. So you've got to go back to the school. I do not...

Micah: I don't know.

Andrew: I do not want to see two hours of them in the forest.

Micah: But in this particular scene, though, it looks like the kids are busting out right at the very end. There's that loud...

Matt: Well, maybe...

Micah: ...bang.

Andrew: Oh, right.

Matt: Yeah. They're probably getting rescued by the D.A.

Andrew: Oh, maybe.

Eric: Oh, and he gets - oh, and Filch - yeah, Filch gasps at the last minute. He's like, huh?

Andrew: Yeah, he puts on a goofy face. Oh, okay. Oh, that's cool. So that's the kind of cool stuff I think we'll be seeing in Part I, just how Hogwarts is so different now.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah.



Trailer: Harry and Hermione in the Forest


Andrew: So moving along, we see a shot in the forest. Harry and Hermione getting a good workout. And...

Matt: What scene is this in the book?

Micah: Looks like a Snatcher scene.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah...

Eric: Running from...

Andrew: ...totally.

Matt: But do they run from the Snatchers? I forget.

Andrew: Yeah, they do because...

Matt: Oh...

Andrew: ...they are coming...

Matt: ...right.



Trailer: Dumbledore's Grave


Andrew: ...after them quite frequently. And then we see this shot of Voldemort and he looks like he is standing on something. He is shooting a spell into the air. What is he standing on, guys?

Matt: Umm.

Eric: Could it be the ruins of Little Hangleton? Of the - when he discovers that the Horcrux is gone?

Andrew: Ooh.

Eric: Or wait, are there going to be Horcruxes in this movie or not?

Andrew: [laughs] I...

Matt: No, there are only going to be Deathly Hallows.

Eric: Because I feel like they might have to make three movies to show all the backstory of the Horcruxes. That has been left out.

Micah: Could he be on Dumbledore's grave?

[Matt gasps]

Andrew, Ben and Matt: Oh!

[Everyone talks at the same time]

Matt: Yes!

Ben: The Elder Wand.

Matt: Sparks.

Ben: That's the sparks.

Andrew: Tomb.

Matt: Yes!

Ben: Yeah.

Matt: He has his wand. Oh my god! That is...

Eric: Man.

Matt: ...epic.

Andrew: Oh, what an asshole!

Micah: [laughs] You can't say that!

Matt: You can't say that on the show! You got to edit that out.

Andrew: Sorry. My emotions took over me. Oh, that is nice. Well, they have him in a little patch of trees right there.

Matt: Oh, that is nice he is...

Andrew: Unless...

Matt: ...standing on Dumbledore's grave...

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Matt: ...with his wand.

Andrew: No, but this is the first time we are seeing Dumbledore's grave. It's nice that they keep him nice...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...and shaded during the day.

Matt: I love how in the book, he just shoots out sparks. Here, he is conjuring up a lightning storm.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Yeah. Yeah, that...

Ben: The Elder...

Eric: ...is true.

Ben: ...Wand is quite powerful.

Matt: But that is not the Elder Wand. [gasps] [whispers] Spoilers.

Andrew: Now, wouldn't that - yeah, it's a bunch of lightning strikes. It's very interesting.

Eric: Yeah.



Trailer: Harry and Voldemort


Andrew: [sighs] All right. So moving along, we see a shot of blackness. And then there is this beautiful scene between Harry...

Eric: I love it.

Andrew: Harry and Voldemort.

Ben: They are about to make-out.

Matt: Oh my god!

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: It is - Micah was saying this is very potentially homoerotic. Is that...

Andrew: Micah!

Eric: Is that real, Micah?

Andrew: Stop...

Micah: I didn't...

Andrew: ...it!

Micah: ...say that! What are you...

Andrew: All right.

Micah: ...talking about?

Andrew: Here, let's listen to it real quick because it's pretty cool.

[Andrew plays clip from the trailer]

Matt: [as Voldemort while the clip plays] "I want to kiss you, Harry."

Andrew: Matt, you ruined it.

[Matt and Micah laugh]

Andrew: [laughs] I thought that was actually it for a minute because it went with the music personally. All right - or perfectly. Here we go.

[Andrew plays the same clip]

Andrew: Oh my gosh! So that really kicks off - this trailer is basically in three parts. It starts with this shot of Voldemort, and then more action. And then this little dialogue between Harry and Voldemort sets off the third part where - more action. So, what do you guys think of these lines between the two?

Ben: I mean, the way Harry - the way he said it, I don't know. It kind of seems lame to me, the way that Harry is, like, [as Harry] "Because I have something worth living for."

Andrew: Hmmm.

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: It kind of reminds me of the first film when Harry is in the end, there - when he is fighting Voldemort. And he is all, like, [as Harry] "Albus Dumbledore will never have left this school as long as those here are loyal to him."

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Or whatever. I don't know. It just sounds kind of corny.

Eric: Yeah. Or Lucius Malfoy. In Chamber of Secrets, he says, "Let us hope that Mr. Potter will always be around to save the day." He is, like, "Don't worry. I will be." But this almost didn't sound like Dan and I'm wondering how much can you possibly sound like yourself when Voldemort has got his hand on your mouth. [laughs] He can't really talk. Voldemort has got these long claws and he is kind of holding Harry's jaw. I don't know. It's kind of gross. But I liked the dialogue here better than - previously in the trailer, Voldemort is, like, "Harry Potter, the boy who lived." It's the same line. He uses it every movie when he meets Harry. "Harry..."

Andrew: Right.

Eric: "...Potter, you're the boy who lived." But now it's, like, "Why do you live?" And that's cool. That's interesting. And wow, Ralph Fiennes really doesn't have a nose.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And a lot of people in the chat are pointing out his gorgeous nails.

Matt: Oh, they are...

Andrew: His lady nails.

Matt: ...completely manicured perfection. I love the veins on his forehead. I mean, they keep getting bigger and bigger with every film.

Andrew: Yeah. And you see the back of his head? It looks like...

Ben: It looks like there is a road map drawn on there.

Matt: I know.

Andrew: [laughs] It is the London Underground, actually.

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: Oh, right. Right, right.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: That's Dumbledore.



Year of Harry Potter


Andrew: All righty. So, let's move along here in this trailer. You're listening to MuggleCast Live. Matt, Ben, Micah, Eric and myself are all here. Fifteen hundred people listening to us talk about the trailer. Like I said at the beginning, this is quite the...

Matt: Oh, yeah.

Andrew: ...epic trailer. I mean, this is really - Warner Bros. actually said today that this is the "Year of Harry Potter." And they are so right when you think about it.

Ben: So if that's...

Eric: [laughs] That's like...

Ben: ...the case...

Eric: That's like...

Ben: ...is this the...

Eric: ...a title card.

Ben: Is this the "Beginning of the end," Andrew?

Andrew: Ben, I think you could argue that. Yeah. But I think it started technically with the theme park. They were counting that even though - it is actually the thirteen months of Harry Potter because the theme park opened up June 18th. And Part II comes out July 15th? So - 2011.

Ben: Oh...

Matt: Okay...

Ben: ...wow.

Matt: ...so the year of Harry Potter give or take a couple of months.

Ben: I mean, for us it's been like the decade of Harry Potter.

Andrew: [laughs] Right.

Matt: Right.

Ben: But we're just weird.



Trailer: Gringotts and Hogwarts


Andrew: [gangster voice] W.B., where have you been in the year of Harry Potter? [normal voice] All right. So anyway, then we see another shot of the dragon. And he is jumping off the entrance of Hogwarts.

Matt: No...

Andrew: The giant...

Matt: ...Gringotts.

Micah: Gringotts.

Andrew: Gringotts.

Eric: No, it's...

Andrew: Sorry.

Eric: ...Gringotts.

Andrew: Sorry!

Eric: It's Gringotts.

Andrew: God, I misspoke! Ugh!

Matt: Geez.

Andrew: I'm just kidding, guys. I love how you correct me. And...

[Eric laughs]



Trailer: Crowds from the Forest


Andrew: ...then we see a giant group...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...of people running out of what I guess is the Forbidden Forest. What is this scene? Is this all the student - all the Hogwarts...

Matt: They look like...

Andrew: It looks like a mix of people.

Matt: Yeah. I don't know.

Micah: Well, I think this would be that scene where everybody joins together from I guess you would call it 'the good side,' with the house elves and everybody else? I don't know.

Eric: Well, when they do that, aren't they running from Hogwarts? This seems more like they are running from the forest. Or maybe they are running into a clearing.

Matt: Well...

Eric: But then that means they...

Matt: They are running...

Eric: ...made it past...

Matt: ...from...

Eric: ...the giants.

Matt: ...Hogwarts I think. You are right, Eric, because they are going downhill and Hogwarts is uphill.

Andrew: No, but - no, no. They are running uphill. Well - no, no.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: The scene right - okay, this is a bit confusing. There is the one shot where they are running on flat land. And then they start running uphill. But then the next shot, you see them running downhill.

Matt: Or maybe...

Andrew: So... [laughs]

Matt: ...it is two opposing sides.

Andrew: It could be.

Matt: Or maybe it is just not in sequence. Maybe...

Eric: They are all...

Matt: ...they ran down before they hit the end of the - I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, we're talking about the groups, right?

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: I don't - I think if I had to choose, I would say this had to be the good guys because they are not all dressed the same. And the Death Eaters...

Eric: They are all wearing...

Matt: ...tend to have a unison of...

Andrew: Right, they are all wearing the same clothes.

Matt: Yeah.



Trailer: Voldemort and the Death Eaters


Andrew: Yeah, yeah. So, [laughs] that's a pretty cool shot. And then the next shot we see is Voldemort and all of his Death Eaters but this shot is during the day, so they can't be the same scene.

Eric: Earlier that day?

Andrew: [laughs] Maybe. [laughs] Everyone is just running around in large groups...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...all day. [laughs] And again, we see Ben's grandmother with teeth covered, mouth wide open.

Micah: Well, who is on the ground in that shot?

Matt: Some...

Micah: If you go back to it...

Andrew: A dead...

Micah: ...for a second.

Andrew: ...Hogwarts student.

Matt: Yeah, somebody is dead.

Andrew: Yeah, that looks like Hogwarts...

Eric: Oh wow.

Andrew: ...attire, right? Sweater with a collared shirt underneath?

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: Or if...

Eric: That's somebody...

Ben: ...they are not...

Eric: ...dead.

Ben: ...dead, they are about to be.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] Death by trampling.

Matt: Death by Death Eater trampling.

Micah: Poor Colin Creevey.

Andrew: Oh!

Matt: Oh!

Eric: Oh!

Matt: Poor...

Ben: Well...

Matt: ...Nigel.

Ben: ...he is annoying anyways.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: So then we see "Part I: November 2010." And then there is this shot which is definitely from Part I. It is the trio walking through London right after the wedding.

Ben: Yeah, after the wedding.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah. Emma Watson's looking pretty nice. Don't you think so, Ben?

Ben: Quite nice. Red. Red is the fiery, passionate color.

Andrew: Red is her...

Ben: Just saying.



Trailer: The Seven Potters


Andrew: Red is her color, totally. And then we see - this one is a bit hard to make out. It is a few people on brooms.

Matt: [gasps] Oh my god, it's...

Eric: Somebody...

Matt: ...not Hedwig...

Eric: ...is going down.

Matt: ...is it? It's not...

Eric: Somebody is...

Matt: ...Hedwig.

Eric: Yeah, that is Hedwig [laughs] going down...

Andrew: Where?

Eric: ...in a burst of flames.

Matt: On fire.

Andrew: Not!

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: No way.

Matt: [laughs] Oh my god.

Andrew: No.

Matt: It's...

Andrew: Stop!

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: That's not - no. They wouldn't do that!

Matt: [laughs] I don't know. I wouldn't put it past them.

Andrew: Everyone in the chat thinks it is Hedwig.

Micah: Could it be Mad-Eye Moody?

Andrew: I hope it is Mad-Eye instead.

Ben: No, that probably is...

Matt: No.

Ben: ...Hedwig. They probably...

Matt: That's not Hedwig!

Ben: Hedwig went up in flames!

Matt: It's a spell!

Andrew: No!

Matt: Hedwig can't...

Eric: But immediately...

Matt: ...burn that much.

Eric: Okay, immediately after that, somebody goes by on - it looks like a Thestral. Was anybody - were they really - yeah, they were riding Thestrals too during "The Seven Potters."

Matt: Yeah.

Ben: Wait...

Matt: Look...

Ben: ...wait...

Matt: Look...

Ben: ...how can you see the Thestrals?

Andrew: Yeah, where?

Ben: I don't see any Thestrals.

Eric: Okay, it's not a dragon. And it's too small to be a dragon. Right after the ball of flame that may or may not be Hedwig. At 1:48 and 1:49.

Andrew: Oh, yeah. Yeah...

Eric: There is...

Andrew: ...those are totally...

Eric: ...two people...

Andrew: ...Thestrals.

Matt: It's Kingsley.

Ben: But how can we all see the Thestrals? That is not how the Thestrals work.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: Well, for the movie we're going to wear our Thestral goggles so...

Matt: Well, we all...

Andrew: ...we can all...

Matt: ...did see somebody die before this movie, so we're allowed to see the...

Ben: Oh...

Matt: ...Thestrals.

Ben: ...that's right.

Eric: We saw Cedric.

Ben: [singing] "Remember Cedric..."

Andrew: If that is Hedwig, I - something...

Matt: It's not Hedwig. I was just....

Micah: Could it be the...

Andrew: No, but...

Micah: ...motorbike spinning out of control...

Matt: No...

Micah: ...or something...

Matt: ...it is...

Micah: ...like that?

Matt: ...a fireball.

Micah: So?

Andrew: From...

Micah: The...

Andrew: ...what? Though - but something is clearly falling. If you look at the end, you can see a...

Matt: It's going...

Andrew: ...glimmer...

Matt: ...after...

Andrew: ...or something.

Matt: ...something. I don't know. It better not be Hedwig.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Matt: I'm going to really...

Eric: Jo was, like, "For your treason for trying to not kill Hedwig, now you have to take her down in a ball of flame."



Trailer: Ministry of Magic


Andrew: All right, so we do - then we get another shot of the Ministry, and - does anyone know who this is? Is this - oh, is this...

Micah: Yaxley?

Andrew: Yaxley?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: I was going...

Eric: That's the...

Andrew: ...to say...

Eric: ...go-to. Who is that?

Andrew: ...Kreacher.

Eric: Oh, it could be Yaxley.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: No.

Andrew: I was going...

Micah: It's the...

Andrew: ...to say...

Micah: ...same scene from earlier in the trailer.

Ben: Oh, yeah. That is that blonde-haired...

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Ben: ...weird looking dude.

Andrew: All right.

Matt: He's got a nice vest though.

Andrew: Do you guys...

Eric: Okay...

Andrew: ...know - a little side fact.

Matt: Oh.

Andrew: They - of course they built the set for Order of the Phoenix. They built the Ministry set. They rebuilt that gigantic thing for Deathly Hallows. I mean...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...isn't that insane?

Matt: Hallows.

Andrew: Hallows.

Ben: Well, when you have several hundred million dollars...

Andrew: I know. But...

Matt: To spend.

Andrew: ...it's just - what are the - I don't know. I mean, obviously they have to do it all the time. But I just...

Eric: Well, it...

Andrew: ...thought that is...

Eric: It houses...

Andrew: ...really impressive.

Eric: It houses a Horcrux.

Micah: Somebody in the chat said that is Glenn Beck.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Ben: That does look like him.

Andrew: Someone else said George Washington. I think they are both pretty accurate.

[Eric laughs]

Ben: George Washington and Glenn Beck's love child.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]



Trailer: Bathilda Bagshot


Andrew: And then we see a child's room, and...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...of course...

Ben: This is Bathilda Bagshot.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Wait, no.

Matt: She is...

Ben: That was...

Matt: ...looking good.

Ben: Was it Bathilda Bagshot?

Andrew: Well, it is Nagini. But...

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: Yeah.

Eric: It was Nagini inside a - wearing a Bathilda suit. Why is the child's room there? Was that in the book? I know...

Andrew: No.

Eric: ...Bathilda...

Matt: No...

Eric: ...was...

Matt: ...it wasn't.

Eric: ...really old. Bathilda is a very old lady and her house kind of smells...

Matt: I hope...

Eric: ...like...

Matt: ...they didn't move...

Eric: ...rotting...

Matt: ...this scene...

Eric: ...old lady.

Matt: ...to the Potter's house.

Eric: So, it's like a daycare center where...

Andrew: Well...

Matt: I hope this isn't Harry's nursery or something.

Andrew: Yeah. I remember in the book, it was described as being very - it was a very old house.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: And it was a...

Eric: Smell.

Andrew: ...mess, I think.

Ben: Well, maybe she has grandchildren.

Andrew: But it is so well lit too. I don't know.

Eric: It is a...

Matt: I swear.

Eric: ...little too well lit.

Matt: They may have moved it to Godric's Hollow or something.

Eric: But watching the snake attack Harry is awesome.

Matt: [laughs] Rawr!

Andrew: Do we actually...

Eric: Because that is...

Andrew: ...see - oh, yeah. He bites - yeah. That's pretty awesome. Ouch.

Matt: Let's watch that again in slow motion.

Andrew: [in a bad Australian accent] Crikey!

Matt: Rawr!

[Eric laughs]

Matt: [in a worse Australian accent] That's a big fella.

Andrew: Yeah, he takes him down too. If you...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: I see a little...

Matt: It is a girl.

Eric: You see his...

Ben: And...

Eric: ...foot up...

Ben: ...when he gets...

Eric: ...in the air.

Ben: ...wrapped up like that, how is he going to escape? Come - oh wait, Hermione comes in and saves the day, right?

Andrew: This is a major nerd moment, but you can totally see an editing - a graphics issue right here. At 1:50 you can see Harry's head and half the snake. They didn't complete that.

Matt: And there is a hole in the wall. They didn't cover that up.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Okay, so - yeah, he takes him down. That's a pretty hardcore [laughs] scene.

Eric: Yeah, his feet are up in the air. That is... [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: That is pretty awesome.

Andrew: Oh, and he's got...

Matt: He's wearing...

Andrew: ...the locket.

Matt: ...the necklace.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah, I was just going to say.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Nice.

Andrew: Oh, some people are saying this is Sunnyside from Toy Story.

Matt: Oh!

Andrew: I think this looks kind of like it.

Matt: Okay.

Eric: I haven't...

Andrew: Toy Story...

Eric: ...seen that. How is Toy Story?

Andrew: Oh, excellent.

Matt: Amazing.

Eric: Very good.

Andrew: Then we see a shot of Harry, and he is looking all rawr, rawr, rawr!

Matt: "Kill it Harry!" Or, "Kill it Ron!"

Andrew: And then we see Ron throwing the sword down on the Horcrux. Pretty cool.

Eric: Or is it a snake? It looks - everything looks like a snake now...

Andrew: Nah.

Eric: ...to me.

Andrew: That is a tree trunk.



Trailer: Room of Requirement


Ben: Part II.

Eric: All right.

Andrew: And we see Part II.

Eric: July...

Andrew: And then we see...

Eric: Oh!

Andrew: Oh, okay. Wow! I haven't gone frame-by-frame yet, so this is all...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...very exciting to me. So, this is obviously the Room of Requirement.

Eric: Right.

Andrew: At 1:53. [laughs] We see - oh, look at that! Look at the lamps from...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Isn't that Evanna - that was Luna's party.

Matt: Yeah. Oh, and look, we see the queen from the chess set right behind them.

Andrew: Yeah, and I guess that's a rook right there.

Eric: Oh, that's awesome!

Matt: It's almost like an homage to all the films.

Eric: The chess set. Yeah, they had all this stuff in storage. That was actually...

Andrew: Right.

Eric: They didn't need to find a Room of Requirement. They just...

Matt: This is...

Eric: ...had all this.

Matt: ...actually the storage room at Leavesden Studios.

Eric: It's actually Leavesden. Yeah, yeah. They set it on fire.

Andrew: And then we see the other shot which is lower to the ground, and lots of fire. We don't see Draco or Crabbe or Goyle.

Matt: Not yet.

Andrew: But that's all right.

Micah: They are coming.

Andrew: In the trailer?

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh man.

Matt: Oh-ho!

Andrew: I clearly did not...

Matt: Hold on...

Andrew: ...watch this enough times. [laughs]

Matt: ...to your sides!

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#214 (November 20th, 2010): In perhaps our most controversial episode ever, we review Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 the day after its release. The hosts are clearly on opposites ends of the debate and the show receives so much feedback, we record another episode less than four days later.

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