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MuggleCast 203 Transcript

Live From Infinitus 2010
Orlando, FL
July 16, 2010

Show Intro

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["Hedwig's Theme" plays]

David Heyman: Hello this is David Heyman and I'm the producer of the Harry Potter films and this is MuggleCast.

[Show music begins]

[Audience cheers]

Andrew: Wow! Wow! Hello everyone! Hello everyone! Oh, thank you so much. Welcome to MuggleCast Live at Infinitus! Yes!

[Audience cheers]

Andrew: Thank you everyone for coming out. It - whose first conference is this? First Harry - a lot...

Matt: Oh my...

Ben: Oh...

Matt: ...god.

Andrew: ...of people.


Matt: Wow.

Andrew: Ben and I did a panel this morning and the same response with lots of hands up. Why - is it just because of the theme park?

[Audience responds]

Andrew: Oh, mix of things?

Audience Member: Close to home.

Audience Member: Location.

Andrew: Close to home, location, yes. Good...

Audience Member: You guys!

Andrew: ...good, good... [laughs]

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Well, we have been to conferences before.

Audience Member: I know you have. I haven't been able to go to them.

Welcome Back, Laura

Andrew: Oh, okay. All right. Well, right on. Well, thanks everyone for coming out. We really do appreciate it. Let's introduce the panel. I'm Andrew Sims. This is Ben Schoen. This is Matt [laughs] Britton right here. I [laughs] can't see everyone. Here is Eric Scull, Micah Tannenbaum, Elysa Montfort, and Laura Thompson at the end. Oh...

[Audience applauds]

Andrew: ...this is actually very exciting because it is Laura Thompson's great return to MuggleCast. It's been a few months. Welcome back Laura!

[Audience cheers]

Laura: Thank you.

Andrew: So, how was your time in Costa Rica, Laura?

Laura: It was really, truly incredible. It's something that I'm already missing a lot. I've only been home for two and a half, three weeks at this point, and I'm already trying to figure out how I'm going to go back for free. So, yeah. But it's really great to be back. This is actually my first MuggleCast since January.

Ben: Oh, wow.

Laura: So...

Matt: Oh.

Ben: I missed...

Laura:'s been a...

Ben:, Laura.

Laura: ...long time.

Andrew: It's...

[Matt laughs]

Deathly Hallows Trailer

Andrew: ...been a very long time. [laughs] So, obviously - there is actually a lot to talk about since our last episode. There were - our last episode was all about the Deathly Hallows trailer. What did everyone think of that?

Audience Member: It was pretty awesome!

[Audience responds]

Andrew: It was pretty awesome?

Audience Member: The last scenes had almost the last scene in the movie.

Andrew: Yeah. They had pretty much everything in there. Laura, what did you think of the trailer? Didn't get your thoughts on that.

Laura: Pull my mic over. I thought it looked absolutely incredible. And I have to say, my internet connection for the last few months has been not so great as some of you know. And I wasn't actually able to watch the trailer until I got home, and I was really blown away by it. It was actually my dad. He emailed me the link and he was, like, "You know I don't read Harry Potter, but this looks sick."

[Andrew and Audience laugh]

Laura: "This looks amazing!" So I watched it and I just thought it looked so incredible. It looks like they have done such justice to the book. And not just in terms of bringing every exact element to the screen, but in terms of characterization and the real fear that we saw in Deathly Hallows. I really got a sense of that from the trailer.

Andrew: Any other thoughts, guys? Ben, it looked like you were about to say something.

Ben: Oh, I was just going to do another quote from the trailer like I always do.

Andrew: What were you going to say?

Ben: Oh, I don't know. I was going to be all, [as Voldemort] "Why do you live?"

[Everyone laughs]

ABC Family's Deathly Hallows Clips

Andrew: Well, I wanted to get internet because we have some things to show, but unfortunately, the internet is not working. But that is okay. Everyone has seen the ABC Family clips, right?

[Audience disagrees]

Ben: Awww.

Andrew: Pretend like you did! Well, on ABC Family last weekend during 'Harry Potter Weekend', that is when they debuted some new clips. It was a bunch of behind the scenes sneak peeks at Deathly Hallows, of course. And one of the things that we saw: a lot of the action scenes. We saw big crowds of people running everywhere. It was really intense, and I got chills when I was looking at that again. And I feel like every time that we see these clips now of these large crowds run in places, I'm personally going to get chills. What did you think, Micah?

Micah: Yeah, I agree with you. I thought it was kind of funny too when they were talking about who could run the fastest. They were having a joke on set between Dan, Emma and Rupert.

Andrew: Who won that?

Micah: I'm not sure.

Andrew: Oh.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Did they say - does anyone remember who won the running contest? [laughs]

Ben: My money would be on Rupert. He has a longer stride.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Yes, he is a bit taller. But...

[Audience responds]

Andrew: Dan claims he won? "I won, I definitely won!" [laughs] And so it was - honestly, it was just a really good sneak peek and it is the first of many. W.B. keeps calling this "The Year of Harry Potter," which is pretty interesting because we have a year left now.

Audience Member: Every year is.

[Ben gasps]

Andrew: Awww. Every year is the "Year of Harry Potter" says an audience member in the front.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: But I think they are really - I was saying this at the panel this morning too that Ben and I did. That - by the way, anyone go to that this morning? All right, nice. Thanks for coming. We had a great time.

[Eric and Matt laugh]

Andrew: And to the rest of you, why were you sleeping? We wanted to.

[Everyone laughs]

Audience Member: Tired!

Andrew: We wish we were sleeping. No, we had a great time. What was I saying?

Ben: Something about getting chills?

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: The "Year of Harry Potter."

Ben: No, the "Year of Harry Potter."

Deathly Hallows Movie Poster

Andrew: Oh, the "Year of Harry Potter." Warner Bros. is really promoting it. I think what everyone agrees on is that these final two films are going to be so successful because whether you have even seen the earlier movies, you are going to want to see how it ends, right? So, I don't know. It's pretty interesting. It will be interesting to see how it returns at the box office. Something else we saw Deathly Hallows related was the movie poster. The first one - it is the first one, with Hogwarts burning!

Ben: Oh no!

Andrew: Eric, did you cry when you saw that? Did that finally make you sad? Or did that bother you because that is not really Part I?

Ben: My money is on he was bothered.

[Audience and Matt laugh]

Eric: Actually, funny story. I was - somebody had told me that it had been released and I said, "Is it just Part I? Because I have been looking forward to just finding about Part 1. I don't want Part 2." And they said, "Well, no," and I got really upset. But then I saw it and I was, like, oh, but it is different because it is Hogwarts burning. So it...

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Well...

Eric: Totally contradicting...

Matt: Hogwarts burning...

Eric: ...myself.

Matt: ...makes all the difference.

Eric: I loved it because it was kind of a throwback to - and we did a comparison on MuggleNet of the first or one of the first posters for the first film, for Sorcerer's Stone where it is them on the lake and looking up at Hogwarts. And now you are looking up at Hogwarts just as in the first poster, but this time it is burning to the ground. So, it is - obviously, times have changed a little bit.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Maybe I'm a bit slow, but how do you set a castle on fire?

[Andrew and Audience laugh]

Ben: I don't know because the whole stone thing doesn't make...

Eric: Lots and...

Ben: ...much sense.

Eric: ...lots of accelerant.

Andrew: But honestly, I love the poster. I mean, I think that is one of the greatest ones they have ever done. And it's so simple but it is so striking because it actually - it looks a lot like the Sorcerer's Stone poster. And I made a side-by-side comparison on MuggleNet, and I said here is Movie 1 and here is Movie 7. And it's the same angle, castle is basically the same size, so it's the same length of distance away. But it was just that one difference. It's 1, it's all happy, cheery at the beginning.

Ben: Mhm.

Andrew: And then Movie 7 poster, it's the exact same thing but the castle is burning to the ground. And it says, "It ends here." I wanted to cry. It was the most depressing [laughs] thing I've ever seen...

Elysa: I know!

Andrew: my life.

Elysa: You say how cool it is, and I'm thinking, "Oh, yay! You're the most morbid person I know!"

[Everyone laughs]

Elysa: I saw that poster, went out, and booked a psychotherapist.

[Everyone laughs]

Elysa: I'm going to see a shrink for the rest of my life.

Andrew: Any other thoughts about the poster, guys? I mean, it was pretty simple, but it was pretty striking I think. Anymore - I mean, is the rest of the promo material going to be all the emo characters now? Like they are going to be sad that it ends too?

Matt: I...

Elysa: Yeah...

Matt: ...hope so.

Elysa: ...I'm expecting...

Matt: I hope that all the character posters are going to be them - what the characters look like during the final battle. Well, maybe not Lupin or Tonks or...

[Audience responds]

Elysa: Oh!

Matt: ...any of the characters that died.

Elysa: Matt!

Andrew: Ooh.

Matt: I mean, I want dramatic character posters.

Elysa: Come on!

Matt: Well, I'm sorry. I should have thought of that first...

Elysa: He said...

Matt: ...before I said...

Elysa: ...emo, not dead!

Matt: I...

[Everyone laughs]


Ben: Who do we get to see die, do you think?

Andrew: Who what?

Ben: Who do we get to watch die on the screen?

Andrew: Well, we were wondering with the trailer - some people were speculating that maybe Hedwig doesn't die because we see Hedwig fly away. Harry lets him go. Was that...

Elysa: What?

Andrew: the trailer?

[Audience disagrees]

Eric: What?

Andrew: I just want to - that was...

Matt: What?

Andrew: the trailer, right?

[Audience agrees]

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: No.

Andrew: But my theory was, as I said on MuggleCast, that that is maybe - he is just sending a letter to someone. It's obviously not in the book.

Ben: Yeah, you couldn't just tell Hedwig, "Hey, man."

Andrew: "Peace out."

Ben: "Later on."

[Audience laughs]

Ben: "I'll see you later."

Andrew: Well, because J.K. Rowling said that was the end of his childhood - the reason she killed Hedwig was because that is the end of his childhood. So, were they, like, "Hmmm, let's see. We can't kill an owl. That will upset a lot of kids if they watch in the theater, so let's just..."

Laura: Well, I mean...

Andrew: "...send him away."

[Audience laughs]

Laura: I don't...

Andrew: And Harry...

Laura: ...think...

Andrew: ...can be...

Laura: They mortified us enough already. They might as well just seal the deal.

Ben: Yeah, they can't...

Eric: Well...

Ben: You can't...

Laura: Put it on film.

Ben: ...pull any punches.

Eric: Well, for anybody who is feeling particularly bad about what happened to Hedwig in the seventh book, the Wizarding World of Harry Potter, which is right next door, has Hedwig pillows now. And they are very...

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, great.

Eric: ...very soft.

[Audience laughs]

Eric: Every time you go to sleep at night, you can sleep on Hedwig. Hedwig will keep your head propped up.

Laura: Yeah, you...

Andrew: Goodbye...

Laura: ...wonder...

Andrew: ...Dead-wig.

Matt: I don't...

Laura: You know something...

Matt: ...know which one is worse - sleeping on Hedwig or having her blow up in a film.

[Audience and Laura laugh]

Laura: I don't know. Throwing back to the Book 7 release, since we're talking about this, my mom was telling me that at the particular bookstore she went to, they were giving out little stuffed owls, like, Hedwigs to all...

Eric: Yeah...

Laura: ...the kids...

Eric: ...they did that.

Laura: ...not knowing what happens.

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: It's, like, "Ugh!"

Eric: Actually, it was if you pre-ordered Book 7 - I was at a Borders in New Zealand and we were giving out for all the pre-orders this stuffed little plush toy owl Hedwig and somebody mustn't have got the memo.

Laura: Oops.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Maybe - I wouldn't be surprised if those things mysteriously disappear off of Universal store shelves when Part I comes out, unless they just send Harry away like, ìGoodbye!î So, I mean getting back to the poster I really did - I really did like it. It's about time there was sort of this shocking, dark poster for Harry Potter, I think again, it's really going to intrigue people who haven't seen the series before. ìIt all ends here,î I mean that's - that's striking.

Laura: Yeah, and I really like it because I've really found - especially a lot the posters that represent the characters for the past films to be really bad. Just in general, they look dumb. I don't like them.

Andrew: What?

Matt: Don't sugar coat it or anything Laura.

Laura: No, I mean they look - I don't know. I feel like the characters almost look emo in a lot of the posters. Its always the same pose, and always Hermione wearing designer clothes, and I'm sick of it. I'm glad to see something that's actually important.

Ben: Okay, Andrew, he gave me a Half Blood Prince poster for my apartment thats like giant. It's like huge and it's of Hermione and Slughorn, okay? Slughorn has the creepiest one eyebrow raised look on his face, and I do not want to know what was going through his head at the time, but it is rather disturbing and - W.B., they have these marketing people that they definitely thought that through. They choose very selectively who they put in those posters and that combination was no coincidence.

Andrew: I thought you were going to say like you took the poster and you put your head over top of Slughorn's head.

[Audience laughs]

Ben: No. That's a good idea, though. We should do that.

Andrew: But they are cool. I got those on eBay. They are like the bus shelter posters. You know, the ones that go on the bus shelters, so they're huge. They're like six feet tall. And I had three, Hermione, Harry, and Ron. They're really cool and you can get them on eBay for like, twenty bucks. It's a good deal. Totally worth it.

Ben: Why'd you get rid of them?

Andrew: Redecorating. [laughs] Getting ready for Deathly Hallows bus shelters.

Ben: My apartment is where stuff from Andrew's apartment goes to die.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No kidding.

Ben: I got his old roommates and I got his posters.


Andrew: And furniture, and anyway - something else we wanted to talk about today was Comic-Con. Everybody from the audience can totally see - look how much work we put in the show today! No, trust me, a lot more. This is just for you guys.

Ben: This is just symbols. It means a lot more.

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Andrew: So, Harry Potter at Comic-Con - it's happening. Is anyone going to Comic-Con? Comic-Con is of course the big conference that goes on in San Diego every year. It's huge - I mean, gigantic, and so many people show up. It's actually outgrown the San Diego Convention Center, but so this year for the first time, Harry Potter's going to be there, fitting because the first film comes out in November, and so everyone was excited because we were like, "All right, maybe some cast will come out," because at Comic-Con, cast will come out and reveal new clips. Well, the word gets out, and then Warner Bros. emails us and is like, "Sorry to inform you, but cast is totally not coming to the Comic-Con."

Ben: Boo.

Andrew: So barring any major surprises, will they - I mean, it's kind of a shame. I thought we should mention that because, you know, at Comic-Con, they are debuting new clips, which is very cool because we can't wait to see those, but it's a bit of a bummer because all of the movie panels there always have cast there, and it's exciting to see them debut the clips, not Alan Horn, president of Warner Bros. - CEO of Warner Bros. going, "Here's - check out these new clips, kids." No, they want to see the actors do it. I want to see the actors do it.

Ben: Are you going to be at Comic-Con?

Andrew: Yes.

Ben: Awesome.

Andrew: To cover for you guys. You're welcome. I'm traveling very far.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Just kidding.

Audience Member: All right - this might be kind of wrong...

Andrew: This might be kind of wrong, but...

Ben: I don't think so, by the way.

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: Sorry. I was at Animal Kingdom, and I was trying to find out where to find some merchandise that I wanted to find and this guy told me, I don't know whether it's true or not, but there might be a few cast members coming. I can't say which ones, but he said...

Andrew: Where? Animal Kingdom?

Audience Member: Yeah!

Andrew: In Disney?

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: Not necessarily there, but he said there might be some coming because he knew about Infinitus.

Andrew: Coming where?

Audience Member: I don't know exactly, but he said that there would be some kind of cast members coming.

Andrew: Oh. Yeah, the surprise is out.

Eric: To here or to Comic-Con?

Andrew: Dan Radcliffe is right over there in the corner.

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: Sorry, that's just what I heard.

Andrew: It's all rumor. Yeah. But anyway, so - not much to talk about there, I just wanted to mention that, and it is kind of a bummer.

Eric: Oh, Andrew, that reminded me - the talk about that poster, there was another poster that came out about a week or so ago. Do you guys remember this?

Andrew: No. What?

How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying

Eric: Dan Radcliffe on Broadway?

Andrew: Oh, yes, Eric, the play you were in that you can't stop talking about!

[Audience and Matt laughs]

Andrew: So Dan is going to be in How to...what's the name of the play?

Eric: How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying.

Andrew: Actually, this is perfect, because we're in front of a live audience here, and Eric once played this role that Dan is going to play, so...

Matt: Oh, can you do a little...

Andrew: I feel like Eric should give us a preview of what we can expect from Dan.

Matt: Yeah, can you do a monologue?

[Audience cheers]

Eric: Well, basically Dan's role - this guy's name is J. Pierrepont Finch. He's a window washer outside the World Wide Wicket company, a huge, huge building. And he's walking along the street one day when he comes across this book stand where there's this book, "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." And he picks it up and he gives it the read through and it's basically a satirical approach to - basically how to rise from the mail room to being the VP and even higher of a highly successful company. So he follows the book's advice and sure enough he makes it very high up in the company. So, it's a comedy. It's very funny.

Andrew: Well, I wasn't looking for summary. I was ...

Eric: You were looking for - oh okay.

[Audience laughs]

Matt: Do it.

Eric: All right.

Andrew: Just give us a sample.

Eric: [singing] How to apply for a job. How to advance from the mail room.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: What?

Andrew: Go ahead.

Ben: Keep going!

[Audience laughs]

Eric: [singing] ...petty friends. How to begin making contact - Yeah?

Andrew: Great job, Eric!

[Audience cheers]

Andrew: Wow!

Ben: And for more visit Crown Scull dot com.

Eric: There's more!

Matt: Oh there's more.

Eric: [singing] This book is all that I need.

[Audience laughs]

Eric: [singing] How to, how to succeed!

Andrew: Wow! Oh man! Give me chills.

Ben: Eric Scull.

[Audience claps]

Andrew: [laughs] Ben Schoen is now going to duel with Eric Scull.

Ben: This is American Idol, folks.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Well, actually there was an interview a couple weeks ago - I think from the producer or director, somebody who was involved - and they said they were rehearsing with Dan, and he's really, really good at singing it turns out.

Eric: And apparently in an American accent, I would hope.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Because it's set in America.

Andrew: Yeah, I guess so. So that's cool, and the first poster came out a couple - actually, it's been on display here...

Eric: I love this.

Andrew: on the digital screens.

Matt: Does it look like...

Eric and

Matt: The Forty Year-Old Virgin?

Matt: Yeah.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, kind of.

Eric: It does. I thought it was that at first, and I was like "ugh."

Andrew: It looks pretty happy... So now, let's talk about the Wizarding World. Of course, we're all here, pretty much, to check it out. Has everyone been?

[Audience responds]

Andrew: Yes, no? Who's going tonight?

[Audience responds]

Andrew: Okay, lots of people. Quick plug, don't forget, Three Broomsticks tonight around 11:15, 11:30, we're doing a podcast there. It'll be released online too, so if... [sniffs] Excuse me.

[Audience laughs]

Three Million Riders on Forbidden Journey

Andrew: I'm crying over it, I just can't - so if you do, please do check it out, if you're going tonight. We're going to keep it relatively short, so that you can enjoy the party and the park. Anyway, one of the things that we want to talk about was that there's been three million riders on Forbidden Journey already. And about two million breakdowns.

[Audience laughs]

Eric: Actually, it broke down today, while I was on it today, Andrew.

Andrew: Really?

Eric: Yeah, for about 45 seconds actually.

Andrew: See? It just stops?

Eric: Yeah, it stopped and the movie was still going, but there was a voice, there was a female voice, it reminded me of the Ministry of Magic, like when you go in the telephone booth and there's that nice, pleasant female voice who says...

Matt: Mafalda Hopkirk?

Eric: "Excuse me. Attention, riders, The Forbidden Journey has stopped, but don't move because it could begin again any minute now!

[Audience and Matt laugh]

Matt: Don't move, don't even breathe!

Eric: And it was automated so she's like, "Keep your hands and feet inside the ride." And what happened was then, sure enough, the ride started to move again. I guess it was re-callibrating, figuring out where all the trains were.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Because it was the middle of the ride and then the video reset and we basically just lost ten seconds of ride, but everything else kept going.

Ben: Now I haven't ridden it yet. Does Voldemort pop out of the wall at some point or no?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: He clutches you by the face.

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: Really?

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: Like, "Why do you live?"

Matt: Why do you ride?

Eric: Like three-quarters of the way in, you actually realize that Voldemort's been sitting next to you the whole time.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: When I was on it, it broke down mid-clutch. I was like, "Stop it! Get off of me!" But, no, there is nothing like that, Ben.

Ben: Aw.

Andrew: But, see, this is why I don't think I can ride anymore because I get very paranoid about stuff like that. And if it - this ride, it takes you - you'll be almost upside-down at some points. I mean, you'll be kind of on your back. It's not like a roller coaster because you're on this arm, you're sitting up straight when you start. But then, say this is straight, it sort of goes up like this and twists in a million different directions. So if I broke down and I was hanging upside-down, I'd be like, "Wow."

[Audience laughs]

Ben: Wouldn't that be the perfect way to die though?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew and

Ben: On Forbidden Journey?

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: That's how I went out. At the Potter park.

Andrew: Yeah, I was like, "Wow! I didn't realize this ride actually kills you."

[Audience and Andrew laugh]

Andrew: So who's - Eric, what did you think of the ride? Have we heard your thoughts on it yet? Do an overall review. Did you like it?

Eric: Yeah, I really liked the ride. I was only able to tour the queue when we did the preview...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: March, and we didn't go on the ride. But I got on the ride and I really liked it.

Andrew: Yeah. How about you, Micah?

Micah: Yeah. No, I really liked it. I actually struggled more with Flight of the Hippogriff than with...

[Audience laughs]

Micah: ...Forbidden Journey.

Andrew: Okay, I can't - he tells me this the other day. He's like, "It's so rickety." I'm like, "What are you talking about?"

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: I actually - I assumed it was going to be rickety and I rode it. First of all, it's like ten seconds long. Second of all, it's very smooth, I thought.

Micah: The Flight of the Hippogriff?

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: No way!

[Andrew and Audience laugh]

Micah: No, but the Forbidden Journey was just amazing. I mean, the story doesn't really flow very well. You're kind of going from one scene to the next pretty fast. But I thought it was an amazing ride.

Andrew: Yeah, we talked about this on MuggleCast. It just moves so fast that you're sort of just like, "Whoa! What's going on?" So I assume that once you go on it more than once you get a better idea of what's going on. And it's also very loud, so it's just like, "Aaah! Too much!"

Eric: I think a lot of it, too, is the story that they try and push before you get on the actual ride. And it's interesting because the way they are dividing the line at the moment - because it's big on crowd control - they want to only allow a certain amount of people into different sections at a time. It's actually, I think, going a little too fast when you're inside the castle and so a lot of the things that - like Dumbledore says, for instance. Dumbledore comes out and does his thing - it explains that you're the first Muggles to be allowed into Hogwarts...

[Andrew mock gasps and laughs]

Eric: a while for a special thing. Also, there might be a dragon loose. And then you move into Defense Against the Dark Arts and the trio says, "let's go on this thing," and you go up to the common room. In the meantime you hit the four founders...

Matt: I don't want to be fully spoiled, Eric.

[Audience laughs]

Eric: Sorry, sorry. You're right, you're right, you're right. I'm sorry. But basically there are the four founders of Hogwarts and later other...

[Andrew and the crowd laughs]

Ben: But that's just Eric. Give the stuff from Part I...

Eric: ...other portraits that shan't be named tell you the story of the ride. But actually once you get into the castle - the greenhouses right now, where a lot of the congestion is and they're able to open up - once you get into the castle, you just walk right by all of the story. So I think a lot of confusion happens with that because a lot of the story is being pushed via the portraits that you meet along the way.

Andrew: Sorry, I was doing this silently. Did you have a question or a comment or something?

Confusion on the Rides

Audience Member: Yeah. I was actually talking to my parents because they actually went on the ride after I did and I realized that I missed kind of part of the ride. It was weird because I only went by myself and so they were like, "Go up these stairs," and I was like, "Okay." And so I went through the stairs and I didn't experience all the other stuff that my parents apparently...

Andrew: Oh, so you went on the single riders.

Audience Member: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: Oh yeah, you missed the entire thing.

Audience Member: And I was like, "I was expecting to go through different areas of Hogwarts and everything." And I was just like, "What's going on?" And then the worst part is - I was thinking "This ride is going to be slow in the beginning," and I would be able to take pictures. So I was holding my camera while I was in the ride and I was freaking out because I'm moving around and holding my camera...

Andrew: Yeah, it takes you everywhere.

[Audience member laughs]

Audience Member: Luckily I had the little brace on my camera while I was doing that, but I stopped the camera because I was recording while I was halfway...

Andrew: Oh, geez.

Audience Member: And then I stopped because I was like, "I don't think I want to be recording while I'm screaming!" [laughs] So anyways, it was a fun ride and I really enjoyed it.

Andrew: Well, thank you. Yeah, when I went on it, I was clutching on for dear life. I was very, very scared.

Ben: How long is the ride?

Andrew: Well, that's the other thing. It goes by very fast but - okay, again...

Eric: But not too fast.

Andrew: I was very scared. I was ready for it to be over one minute in. But I think four minutes maybe?

Eric: I think somebody said four minutes. I think that's accurate. It's not too short - it's not like other roller coasters where you wait in line for an hour and a half and then it'll be literally sixty seconds and you'll be down. I think it's a little bit longer than that, and it feels like a good pace, I think. It's satisfying even after waiting an hour or so. The pace is just right.

Andrew: Yeah. Any other - anyone else in the audience have any thoughts about the park as a whole or any of the news stories we've been talking about lately? We're not moving forward until someone does.

Eric: Hey, there's a hand up back there.

Andrew: There we go.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Come on up.

[Eric sings "Come On Down" theme from The Price Is Right]

Andrew: Eric, sing us another song from the Broadway hit...

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Hi, what's your name?

Audience Member: Hey, I'm Katherine.

Andrew: Oh, Katherine.

Audience Member: Yeah...

Andrew: Sorry, I was trying to...

Store Disappointment

Audience Member:'s a stupid nickname on my name tag. I just wanted to say that I love the park as a whole, but I was really disappointed with both Zonko's and with Honeydukes. I just thought that they could have done so much more with that stuff. They only thing they have in Zonko's is a Fanged Frisbee and some little duck toy or something...

Eric: Duck on a Bike?

Audience Member: Yeah! Duck on a Bike, yeah.

Eric: Duck on a Bike...

Audience Member: I was like, "what the heck is this?" You know?

Eric: It's Duck on a Bike!

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: Oh - oh right...

Andrew: Well, no - in fairness, they had a few more toys than that.

Eric: They did.

Audience Member: Yeah, I know, but it was really - I was expecting a really big place full of lots of crazy spinning things like they explain in the book, and it was like nothing...

Eric: I was... Another

Audience Member: It's not Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes, it's Zonko's.

Audience Member: True, that's true.

Andrew: Ooh, she got you!

Matt: A Duck on a Bike - really?

Eric: Yeah, a Duck on a Bike.

Audience Member: It's not Weasley's Wizard Wheezes, it is Zonko's, but...

Matt: I missed that in the book.

Eric: Actually, I really did like Zonko's. That's where I got this shirt that says Felix Felicis on it.

Audience Member: They do have - that is a really cool shirt. I like that shirt.

Eric: It's the only place that I saw that had that shirt. They also had - there's a hair-changing comb...

Audience Member: Yeah, what's up with that?

Eric: What it is is that it's actually multi-colored. It lights up and flashes while you're doing the thing, but the advertising on the boxes is you can supposedly disguise yourself like a Metamorhpagus, like that kind of thing.

Audience Member: Oh.

Matt: Does it change your hair?

Eric: It's actually really cool looking.

Matt: It doesn't change your hair though.

Eric: I think it's really cool looking.

Andrew: How long is it...

Audience Member: Yeah. It's like a regular brush.

Andrew: How long is it going to take for someone to sue Universal Studios for false advertising over that kind of thing?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: But they have whoopee cushions too, I noticed.

Eric: They had whoopee cushions, they had tongues, little inflatable tongues that you could blow up.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: They had screaming yo-yo's.

Andrew: Yeah. It's a gag shop. I mean, were there any items in the books that you were like, "Why isn't that here?"

Audience Member: Nothing I could think of off the top of my head, I guess. I don't know. Should I recheck my statement?

Andrew: Actually, I think the coolest part of these stores was actually just the detail around it. Not necessarily the products, but what you see up in the rafters. You know, just the color of the window, the window displays, the details. It was pretty amazing.

Micah: I was going to say that some of the more interesting ones are the ones that you can't go into.

[Andrew and audience laugh]

Andrew: Yeah. Well, that's for the second part when they add a new section to the Wizarding World.

Audience Member: Yeah, I agree. I totally wanted to go into some of the stores that were just like, "Oh, we're closed for lunch." And I'm like, "No, they're closed forever. That's terrible. They won't let me go in."

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: So that was kind of annoying, but I thought Zonko's was pretty cool. I got a shirt that says Pygmy Puffs on it, so that was pretty cool. I was happy about that. And I really want to buy a Sneakoscope tonight, so I don't know. But I really liked it. I thought that Honeydukes was cool but not as cool as it could have been. I was a little disappointed to see that they had normal Muggle candy because that made it a little cheesy to me or something. I kind of wanted it to have stuff from the books. I really did like the park overall. It was kind of crazy crowded yesterday, so it's going to be really good to go at night and everything. And if you're staying here, you can go at eight in the morning, which is really good because then there are lines to get into the stores. It's so busy and hot and crazy, but it's amazing.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Busy, hot, crazy, but amazing. That's the show title. Get this guy right here? Yeah, come on up.

[Audience member laughs]

Andrew: What's so funny over there?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: Busy, hot, crazy, but amazing? [laughs] That's what they describe Ben Schoen as sometimes.

[Audience laughs]

Audience Member: Hey guys. I want to say - I don't know if you noticed, but at Honeydukes when they got the hologram of the four founders...

Eric: Yes.

Audience Member: When I found out that Ravenclaw had died and Helga Hufflepuff was holding the cup and Slytherin had the locket, I was like, "Wow! That's pretty awesome." And I freaked out - I was going like, "Is that a Horcrux?" And I don't want to spoil you, but it is.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: And that was in the Dueling Dragons?

Audience Member: No, no, no - the Honeydukes window.

Eric: The shop window.

Andrew: Oh wow, yeah. I totally missed that. You were going to say something - what? Yeah.

Audience Member: Well, the pictures were in the Forbidden Journey, too.

Andrew: Yeah, that's where I saw them. Okay.

Audience Member: Yeah, so you see all the Horcruxes inside the castle and Dumbledore has the ring on.

Andrew: Oh, what? Since when? That's cool.

Ben: Ooh.

Eric: So maybe that's their way of making up for the Horcruxes not being in the films. They're going to put them in...

[Audience laughs]

Eric: "Here they are! They were at Hogwarts!"

Ben: Hey, on this day in Potter history - unless I'm mistaken, my memory fails me - July 16th, 2005 was when...

Andrew: Half-Blood Prince.

Ben: ...Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was released. That was five years ago today.

Andrew: Aw, man! That's...awww...

Ben: Awww....

Eric: Now that was the book...

Andrew: You guys!

Eric: ...that was the book that launched MuggleCast. Because it was between....

Ben: Yeah, it happened right after that.

Eric: ...right after that book it was one book to go and that was when all the theories really started taking shape because we found out about Horcruxes - or we had some vindication there.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: And I think from then on it was just crazy.

Andrew: Right - no, you're absolutely right. And speaking of that, we're actually celebrating our five-year anniversary this - next month, August - what, 5th? 5th. August 5th.

Ben: Oh man.

Andrew: Congratulations guys.

[Audience claps]

Andrew: Oh, thanks.

Ben: Andrew, Andrew, what are you going to get me for our anniversary?

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: I don't know. I can't think of anything funny, sorry. [laughs]

Ben: Aw.

Andrew: I'll give you a hug. Yes, Eric has something to talk about, actually.

Infinitus Charity Auction

Eric: Yeah. Before we close up here because it is 5:30 - we do actually have to go - there's another podcast tonight in the park - another MuggleCast inside the Three Broomsticks, I believe. There's a charity auction here at Infinitus happening on Sunday immediately after the leaving feast. I don't know if you guys have been to HPEF cons before, but they usually do this charity auction which is really awesome. Some unique items, some of them signed from different people, various actors across the fandom, and HPEF auctions that off for charity. And that's actually taking place immediately after the leaving feast on Sunday, right across the hall in - I think room - Pacifica Rooms 6-11. And MuggleCast this year has decided to donate an item for the charity auction. What it is is a Quaffle from the Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme park. And it's actually - it's signed by all of us, it says "MuggleCast Infinitus 2010", it's got the Hogwarts crest on it - which they did, we didn't do - and - because it's cool, it's a Quaffle - and it says "Thanks for listening." So, this item, along with other items. There's also another item with MuggleCast history in it, it's a Harry Potter Scene It? game that was purchased the night of the first live MuggleCast, and we all signed that as well...

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: ...way back in 2005. So there are some items...

Andrew: Oh, really?

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh. Sorry, I didn't know that.

Eric: Yeah, there are plenty of other items, really awesome. You can see it in the fandom museum as well, there's a lot of items over there that are just really cool from across time and space...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Different Harry Potter...

Andrew: Here at Infinitus, I threw a couple items in there, in the fandom museum. There's a signed copy of U.K. Half-Blood Prince, actually - that's kind of fitting for today - signed by J.K. Rowling, there's something I may or not - may not have taken from a set that may or may not have been Harry Potter...

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: ...and there's also some - there are some other cool thing in there, too - as well. And I swear to God, if anyone takes any of that - [whispers] I will kill you!

[Audience laughs]

Eric: Wow.

Andrew: [laughs] And I just received an email from Warner Bros., and they are taking me to court, so that's good.

Ben: Well, at least there's no more sets to visit. Well, I mean...

Eric: Quick, Andrew. Sell the evidence.

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] So anyway - okay, one more piece of feedback. Question or comment right up here. Hello, what's your name?

Audience Member: I'm Margaret, and for Ben - speaking of charity, though - do you remember about two weeks back for the HPA live stream, how...

Ben: Yes.

Audience Member: were talking about...

Ben: Oh, no!

[Audience laughs]

Ben: Go ahead. Huh?

Audience Member: I think Andrew Slack has to shave your back...

Ben: Oh, no!

Audience Member: Because we got...

Ben: I just waxed my back, so he's out of luck.

Audience Member: Face, then.

Ben: And my face - well, I actually...

Andrew: Oh!

Ben: The deal was I was going to take my shirt off, but then the Internet died, conveniently enough.

Andrew: Well you can do it here.

[Audience laughs]

Ben: No, not going to happen.

Andrew: Well I'm sure you and Andrew Slack can work something out real quick, because Andrew Slack is here as well. Not - no, no, not in the room, but...

[Audience laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] In this hotel somewhere. But anyway, guys, we do have to wrap it up because the Final Battle is starting soon. Are you guys going to see it?

[Some audience members cheer]

Eric: Yeah!

Andrew: Yeah, I'm actually really excited because everyone's talking about it. It's like the cool thing. So we'd be happy to meet everyone right after the show, or if you're going to the Final Battle or do whatever you want, that's fine too. Don't forget, MuggleCast - if you're going to the park thing, at 11:15-ish in the Three Broomsticks. So thanks everyone for coming out. Woo!

Eric: Bye!

[Audience cheers]

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