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["Hedwig's Theme" plays]

David Heyman: Hello this is David Heyman and I'm the producer of the Harry Potter films and this is MuggleCast.

[Show music begins]

Micah: Because Hedwig's got a whole lot of 'tude...

[Sound of owl]

Micah: Hey! Hey! What the?! - This is MuggleCast Episode 204, for August the 6th, 2010.

[Show music continues]

Happy Birthday, MuggleCast!

Andrew: Welcome back to the show, everyone. Very exciting episode! It's our five - well, we're celebrating, with Episode 204, we're celebrating our fifth birthday. Yay!

Laura: Woo!

Andrew: First episode of MuggleCast was August - 5th? 7th? - 7th. Right, Micah? Micah knows.

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: I have no idea.

Micah: It was August the 7th, 2005.

Andrew: It was Ben, a person named Kevin...

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: ...and I. And it was a wonderful beginning to five years, great podcasting. We're here now - would you guys have guessed we'd be doing this five years later?

Laura: Definitely not. [laughs]

Eric: No.

Micah: No.

Laura: Absolutely not.

[Andrew laughs]

Andrew: Was that due to lack in faith of us, or what? [laughs]

Laura: Well, no, it was just because by the time we started this show, we only had one book left, and at the time...

Andrew: That's true.

Laura: ...I sort of figured that by the time Book 7 came out, we'd sort of wrap things up.

Andrew: Can you imagine if we started it at Sorcerer's Stone? Say we were like fifteen, sixteen...

[Eric laughs]

Laura: Like ten years old?

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: No, but say we were fifteen or sixteen, that'd be insane.

Laura: Yeah. And we would be like - yeah. I don't know, much older now.

Andrew: So we have some celebrating to do today, and we're also going to kick off Chapter-by-Chapter, Goblet of Fire.

Eric: Woot.

Andrew: We're going to look at Chapters 1 through 3 of the fourth book in the Harry Potter series, and of course catch everyone up on the latest news. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

[Show music continues]

News: Infinitus Recap

Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum, update us, what's been going on in the Harry Potter world, the past couple of weeks?

Micah: Well, we were in Orlando just a couple of weeks ago, and we had a great time, I think, right? At Infinitus 2010.

Andrew: It was a hot time!

Laura: Oh my God, it was so much fun.

Andrew: Yes, it was.

Micah: It was!

Laura: I wish we could go back to that.

Andrew: It was great to see everyone. All of you, I mean.

Micah: It was.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: And the listeners, too.

[Andrew, Laura, and Micah laugh]

Micah: So we did two podcasts, as the listeners who were there know. We did one at the actual convention and then we did one at the Wizarding World. I was kind of a little bit more excited for the one at the park, what about you guys? We were all there, we all did the podcasts.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: So what did you guys think?

Eric: I think on the whole, the one at the con was more successful. The one, however, the one in The Three Broomsticks was a landmark. That was what we're going to remember doing, is moving tables and having the guys inside The Three Broomsticks say, "Where do you want these speakers?"

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: That's going to be the most memorable.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Overall, it was great meeting all the fans there in Orlando. We had a big turnout for the one at the conference.

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: And that was obviously - that was the biggest Harry Potter conference to date. I think they had 2500 attendees there and so we had a big turnout for the MuggleCast at the conference and also a nice sized group in the park.

Laura: Yeah, I mean, the issue with The Three Broomsticks is, of course, it's a restaurant...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: it's not that big. Not that many people could get in for it. But I definitely think it was - I have to agree with Eric, in saying that was more of a personal landmark for us.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: Being able to - for Micah to be able to say, "...because we're in The Three Broomsticks..."

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Laura: ...that was just awesome, that was so much fun.

Andrew: Yeah.

The Park

Micah: Well while we're on the topic of the park, let's kind of give our final thoughts on it. What did we think from the food, to the rides, to just the overall experience?

Andrew: I think myself and Eric have given our thoughts plenty, so let's hear from Micah and Laura. Laura, you're the lady, so you go first. What did you think? Because literally, that was your first time in the park that night!

Laura: Yeah! [laughs] I was not fortunate enough to get to go into it for any sort of opening event because I wasn't here, but it was so incredible. I was actually walking into the park for the first time that night, on the Night of a Thousand Wizards, and I was with a friend of ours, Greg Gershman, who you might know from some of our other podcasts, and he was talking to me about something and I was actually paying attention to him, but as soon as we crossed into the Wizarding World, I totally tuned him out. He kept talking, I wasn't paying attention to him, I was just looking around in awe, like, "Oh my god, I am actually in the world of Harry Potter, this is so amazing!" And he finally looked and me and he was like, "You are geeking out hardcore right now, aren't you?" [Andrew and Micah laugh]

Laura: Yes!

Andrew: Did you tear up, Laura? Did any tears...

Laura: No! I didn't tear up. But I was definitely taken aback, because you have these books that you've been reading since you were ten or eleven years old, you've watched them be turned into movies, you've been to readings with the author, you've met some of the actors, and then it's like you're actually in the middle of it and for the first time, it's tangible and real...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: ...and that's definitely a very surreal feeling, but very cool.

Andrew: How about you, Micah? Any similar sentiments?

Micah: Yeah, I agree with a lot of what Laura just said and just to be able to experience it and to go on those rides. I thought they did a great job with the Forbidden Journey ride and the queue. I thought there was plenty to do even if you're stuck out in the heat waiting. I didn't go on the Dragon Challenge, as I mentioned on the live show, I was more scared of Flight of the Hippogriff than I was on the Forbidden Journey.

Andrew: That is so strange.

Micah: I'm just not a roller coaster person...

[Laura laughs]

Micah: ...regardless of whether it's a kids' roller coaster or an adult roller coaster. But it was just great, and I think the best part of it was just experiencing it all with you guys. For what we've done, as we've just said, over these last five years, to be able to all go and do it together, that was what was great about it.

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: All right.

Micah: And Butterbeer!

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Butterbeer was very good!

Eric: Yes.

Micah: It was.

Laura: Yeah, I tried that for the first time on the live show at The Three Broomsticks.

Eric: Oh, that's right.

Laura: And it was quite good!

Andrew: Yeah, it was cool, that was very cool that you did that.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: I was like, "All right, here's the Butterbeer, but you, Matt, and Elysa, you all wait..."

Laura: [laughs] Yeah.

Andrew: "...until the show."

[Eric laughs]

Laura: You cannot drink that!

Andrew: Don't drink that.

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: It's sitting there tempting you about how delicious...

Eric: That was...

Micah: I think I might have to take it up with Aberforth though, I was not too impressed with The Hog's Head ale.

Eric: Ohhh.

Andrew: Oh, really?

Laura: Oh, I didn't have any of that.

Andrew: Yeah, I'm not into it too much either. If anyone...

Micah: The Strongbow.

Andrew: Yes. If anyone does go, Strongbow is the drink you want to be consuming, of course, if you are older than 21. It's a cider, very popular in England, and it's fantastic. I was so happy to hear that they were putting it in the Wizarding World, because it's not easy to find in America. So very cool that they have that there, because it's English.

Micah: I'm Googling bars in New York City...

Eric: [laughs] That serve Strongbow.

Micah: ...that serve Strongbow, right now.

[Everyone laughs]

Micah: I've actually thought about doing that and seeing if there are any. I'm sure there's got to be a couple.

Andrew: I've since bought some Strongbow bottles.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: You can buy them in some liquor stores. Not all, very few, but when you do find it, oh, will you enjoy it.

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News: Comic Con Footage

Micah: Comic Con 2010 was recently held in San Diego, not too long after Infinitus. Andrew, I know you pretty much hopped your way from Florida, to Cleveland, to San Diego.

Andrew: [laughs] Yes. So this is the first time there was a Harry Potter - you know, I hesitate to call it panel, because it really wasn't - but there was Harry Potter presence at Comic Con, and they showed footage from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Parts I and II. It was some trailer clips but there was a lot of new clips. It was about five or six minutes total. It was fantastic! It was - I literally, my mouth was probably - my jaw was on the floor for half of the five to six minutes. I mentioned this on a LeakyMug I did with Melissa from the Leaky Cauldron. You see shots of The Seven Potters. You see Malfoy Manor, with Snape talking to Voldemort. The clips were fantastic. You always see these types of - I guess this would be considered a featurette - you see the featurettes and the trailers, and they get you so excited because they add this extra music. And the way it's packaged. You watch it and you're like, "Oh my God, best thing ever!" right? Because that's what you - for all the trailers too, for every movie. "Oh my God! Oh my God! This looks like the best one yet!"

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: So I have learned my lesson after all these years. And I will hesitate from saying this looks the best one yet. Even though I really do believe that.

Eric: Why? It's going to be the last one. [laughs]

Andrew: I know, I know, and obviously...

Laura: I hope it's the best one yet...

Andrew: Yeah. It better be, right?

Laura: ...otherwise it's going to be a big let down.

Andrew: Yeah. But I will say the footage was fantastic. It's leaving me very excited for these final two films. I can't wait to see it. I'm more excited about Part 1 now than I was before...

Eric: Oh really?

Andrew: ...because of all The Seven Potters! You see the seven Harrys and they look so good.

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: So now I have a question about that. That was a very funny scene in the book, do they keep it funny in the movie?

Andrew: It was a very quick clip. I didn't see much, but...

Laura: Okay.

Andrew: see Harry wearing different clothes and I think it's the clothes - the person he had just transformed from.

Laura: Oh, really? [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. And I think the one I - that stood out to me was, I think, Hermione. I saw him in a girlish type of - but that was surreal. Seeing seven. [laughs] Because...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: ...and I've said it on MuggleCast before, I've been looking forward to that scene very much...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...and to see that on the screen. But Snape and Voldemort - those scenes stood out too. And what else? I can't - what else did I post about?

Micah: You said a shot of a dead Dumbledore.

Andrew: Yes! And you see Voldemort right over top of him so half...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...the screen is Dumbledore, and then the top half...

Laura: Oh, right, so breaking in to take the Elder Wand.

Eric: You and Melissa were freaking out about that in the Leaky Mug.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. Melissa was like hitting my leg half the time. I have a black and blue mark left over from that.

Micah: What's this about Harry and Hagrid driving through Hogwarts?

Andrew: Oh, no no, not Hogwarts - driving through London. Did I write Hogwarts in my notes?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, because see, I was writing notes down so feverishly, I didn't take my eyes off the screen. I was just jotting it down, and they made me turn my laptop screen off so I was just writing blankly. [laughs] So I had no idea what I was typing! But no, it's Harry and Hagrid - a lot of clips of them driving through London. And remember we had seen shots of them filming that stuff like a year or two ago?

Laura: Right.

Micah: Right.

Andrew: And they were on the road, and everyone freaked out. They're like, "Why are they on the road?" Well, they are on the road in the film too. And I guess that's to make it more dramatic, because they're zooming in and out of cars.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: At one point, you see them do sort of a loop-dee-loop in a tunnel. They start driving up on the ceiling to avoid the cars on the road.

Eric: That's like Men in Black.

Laura: Men and Black style, yeah.

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: That's exactly what it is!

Eric: It's actually scenes from Men in Black altered for Harry and Hagrid.

Andrew: That's Harry and Hagrid. They're on Hagrid's motorbike, of course.

Laura: Sounds like the ultimate road trip.

Andrew: Yeah, and we also see Ron talking about listening to the radio, because it's actually a very emotional scene. It's in the tent and Ron's talking...

Eric: Right, and leading up to Ron's fight, right, with...

Andrew: Right, and Ron's sort of like - maybe he was in tears, but he was saying to Harry, "I'm listening every day just to hear Ginny and Fred and George's, and all their voices," and it's like, "Awww!"

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: He's kind of homesick. So - oh, and then some crazy shots of Bellatrix. I mean, god, she is crazy!

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: I watch these movies just for her nowadays. She is so intense!

Laura: She's incredible!

Andrew: Yeah, she...

Laura: I love...

Andrew: ...really is.

Laura: ...watching her. She clearly has so much fun with that part.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. And by the way, it was Tom Felton who introduced all these clips, and we got to interview him afterwards. It was a nice little sit-down interview, about twenty, thirty minutes. And he didn't reveal too much new information, but he was saying that he really is proud of this final film and it's going to be something to look forward to. So...

Micah: He is becoming the face a little bit, isn't he? Of these movies. He did a lot for Half-Blood Prince and he seems to be doing a lot for this film as well.

Andrew: Exactly. And finally from Comic-Con, they had lots of props on set - or they had lots of props on display. They had Ravenclaw's diadem, the Elder Wand, the Hufflepuff Cup...

Eric: Yeah, I saw this!

Andrew: ...the Time-Turner...

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: ...Slytherin's locket, the Riddle diary. So, that was cool.

Eric: I was, like, "Hey..."

Micah: A Time-Turner?

Andrew: Huh?

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: How does the Time-Turner fit in with all of these?

Andrew: Fun fact. I don't know. I don't know.

[Eric laughs]

Micah: Okay.

Andrew: It looked nice. [laughs] I can't tell you.

[Eric laughs]

Micah: Because it doesn't get used in the final book.

Laura: No.

Andrew: Maybe...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: is just leftover. It sort of just...

Laura: Yeah. And I'm sure they just threw it in there because they could. [laughs] You know what I mean?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Well - I mean...

Andrew: Yeah, it...

Eric: ...the diary is a Horcrux, but we're not going to see the diary again. We're going to see the Basilisk's fangs again, possibly.

Andrew: So anyway, what else is going on, Micah? Don't hold out on us. Come on.

News: Deathly Hallows Video Game

Micah: All right. Well, in a new interview, Deathly Hallows video game executive producer, Jonathan Bunney answered some questions for fans that were posted on Facebook. And some of these things we knew before, but a little bit of new information on the video game. He mentioned that you are no longer going to be at Hogwarts and that is why he thinks this game will appeal to more fans than those that have played - the ones that have come previously. It is kind of more of an action game than previously. Dan and Emma will not be lending their voices to the game.

Andrew: What?!

Micah: They are too busy...

Andrew: Are you...

Micah: ...apparently.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: What?!

Laura: Oh my God.

Andrew: That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

[Eric sighs]

Andrew: But Ron - but Rupert...

Micah: Yep.


Micah: He - no, he will be there. He will record his voice...

Andrew: Can...

Micah: ...for the game.

Andrew: Are they doing auditions for Harry and Hermione?

[Eric laughs]

Micah: Yeah...

Andrew: I think...

Micah: might...

Andrew: ...I could do...

Micah: ...want to give it a...

Laura: Oh my God...

Micah: ...try, yeah.

Laura: ...Andrew, you should go for Hermione.

Andrew: Hermione?! Laura Thompson!

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: That's fine. If you go for Harry, I'll go for Hermione.

Laura: Okay, fine. Let's audition together. I'm serious.

Eric: Oh no.

Andrew: [as Hermione] Alohomora!

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: [as Hermione] Alohomora! Alohomora!

[Eric laughs]

Laura: Exactly! This is...

[Micah laughs]

Laura: ...what kills me. Okay...

Eric: With feeling!

Laura: many things do they actually say in these games?

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: They have five lines...

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: ...or something...

Eric: And they couldn't...

Laura: ...ridiculous...

Eric: ...sit Emma down...

Laura: that.

Eric: ...and say, "Hey, look. Okay, we'll give you the test answers. Just come over here. Just..."

Andrew: But...

Eric: "...come over here real quick."

Andrew: isn't really an excuse. I mean, they have done - [sighs] I don't - it should be in their contracts. When they do these films, they should have to do the video game films too.

Laura: I think it was originally, wasn't it? Any other additional material they had to do. Maybe it is not anymore now that the...

Andrew: And I mean...

Laura: ...movies are finished.

Andrew: ...these video...

Laura: But...

Andrew: characters look like the actors. So - wow, that must have been a setback when they found out that Dan and Emma wouldn't be...

Eric: That is the other thing though. When they are not going to use the original voices, I feel like they could also cast a little bit better as far as sound-a-likes. It is not...

Laura: Yeah...

Eric: a...

Laura: ...that is true.

Eric: If you are not going to, then definitely search far and wide for somebody who sounds just like them.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Because a lot of people can do really good impressions, so...

Andrew: Onward.

Micah: The forest, they will be full of creatures.

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, good.

Micah: Like dragons...

Andrew: Phew!

Micah: ...giants...

Eric: Oh, like Ben.

Micah: ...spiders. There is not going to be a special collector's edition, but they are going to do something with the packaging. So, that is something to look...

Eric: Ooh.

Micah: ...forward to, I guess.

Eric: Holographic.

Micah: And this game will not be released on PlayStation 2. So, all...

[Eric sighs]

Micah: ...those people out there that have PlayStation 2...

[Eric laughs]

Micah: ...that are getting aggravated now. I think the LEGO game didn't come out on PS2 either.

Andrew: Time for an upgrade.

Micah: You guys got to upgrade. Yeah... [laughs]

Eric: Ugh.

Micah: ...exactly.

Eric: Micah, you are killing me. You are telling me to upgrade. I don't want to upgrade. What if I don't want to upgrade?

Laura: Yeah, I love my PS2.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: I am not - I don't see the point in purchasing this if Dan and Emma are not...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: ...contributing...

Eric: Exactly.

Micah: There you go.

Andrew: ...their voices. So...

Laura: However, if Andrew and I are on it, you should all go out...

Andrew: I'll...

Laura: ...and buy it.

Andrew: it. I'll buy you a...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: ...PS3, Laura...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...if we're going to be on it.

Micah: But should an advance copy be given to you for a review, then you would have no problem playing it. Right, Andrew?

Andrew: Exactly, exactly.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: All right, Micah...

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: ...what else is going on? Come on.

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