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David Heyman: Hello this is David Heyman and I'm the producer of the Harry Potter films and this is MuggleCast.

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Andrew: Hello everybody! [laughs] Welcome to MuggleCast Live, September 22nd, 2010 and the trailer for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part I was released and joining me via Skype is Micah Tannenbaum. Hello, Micah.

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: Micah?


Andrew: Oh great, Micah. Don't tell me you just crashed too?

Micah: No, I was just on mute. Sorry.

Quick Trailer Roundtable

Andrew: Oh, good job, geez. Okay, well, at least that wasn't my fault. So anyway, welcome everyone to the show. Matt's going to be joining us in a little bit. So, Micah, have you watched the trailer yet? [laughs]

Micah: Yes, I was actually able to watch the trailer once. I'm going through it right now, trying to pick out some things. But I do have to say, I am really impressed with this trailer. A lot of people were concerned about Part I not living up to the action of Part II and I think there's plenty of action in this trailer. What about you?

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. And, you know what? You are absolutely right. That was one of the initial concerns and I think W.B. has absolutely proven everybody wrong, there is a lot. And we learned that the split is so late in the book that we actually see – there's plenty of action to put into Part I.

Micah: Yeah, absolutely, and I think with this trailer they really did a great job focusing in on that action. There's no question about it. And I really do think this is shaping up to be a good movie.

Andrew: Well, thanks everybody for tuning in. Now, if you remember last time, our last trailer show, we basically just went through the trailer scene-by-scene and talked about every little thing. So, Micah, if it's okay with you, I think we should just do that same thing again.

Micah: If we don't encounter anymore technical difficulties then, absolutely, let's do that.

Andrew: Actually, I wasn't even going to give you any option.

Micah: Oh.

Andrew: I was just telling you what's going to happen.

Micah: Oh, okay.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: See, this is what everybody doesn't hear when we record not live.

Andrew: I take out my whip and I crack it on the MuggleCast news desk and I say, "Micah! This is what we're going to do." Okay, so, let's get into it. I'm just going to load up the trailer right now and we're going to go scene-by-scene. Maybe for old time's sake we should watch it all the way through first?

Micah: Sure. You're going to play it for everybody?

Andrew: Yeah. I don't know if you're going to be able to hear it though.

Micah: I can press play at the same time. How about that?

Andrew: All right. Start it at the beginning. Everybody watching on UStream will be able to see it just fine through UStream. All right Micah? On three hit play.

Micah: All right.

Andrew: You're going to want to mute you're copy because you're going to hear it through my computer. Okay? One, two, three. Now, this is my favorite part. This vibrant green is the best color they've chosen for the warning - okay, here we go.

[Micah laughs]

[Deathly Hallows trailer plays]

Andrew: All right! So anyway...

[Trailer continues to play in the background]

Scene-by-Scene: W.B. Logo

Andrew: Get this off. I mean you can't watch that trailer and say that there is not enough action in Part I. There is plenty to go around. So let's start right at the beginning and just like we did for the last trailer - that major one that included both parts, we are going to discuss every little scene that we see. Okay, now we start with the W.B. logo here, and I think this is my favorite W.B. logo. Isn't it your's, Micah?

Micah: Oh yeah, the logo is great. It reminds me of all the pictures.

Andrew: Didn't Eric complain last episode about the way that W.B. logo swooped in - it was very odd.

Micah: I don't think Eric ever complains about anything.

Scene-by-Scene: The Ministry

Andrew: [laughs] Okay, so first scene is of the Ministry. We see them in the long main corridor. This is where everybody comes in via fireplace and we see Rufus Scrimgeour right at the front. And this is actually, I think, the first time we're getting a glimpse at his voice, right?

Micah: Yeah, I think so.

Andrew: And he sounds pretty good. He doesn't sound as bad as Barty Crouch Jr. did in Goblet of Fire, I was severely disappointed by that when I first heard his voice.

Micah: It was a little weird.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: And all the twitching that he did.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. And we get the shot of the back of him again and we hear him say the following:

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "These are dark times, there is no denying."

Andrew: [laughs] And you get the good look at his face. And I love the way that he drones on. "These are dark times, there is no denying."

Micah: Yeah, and the other thing is, I think this is exactly how the movie opens up, from what Eric and Emerson told us...

Andrew: Did they say that?

Micah: this scene. I believe they did. Am I making that up?

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: If they didn't say it on the podcast I think Eric told me this is how the movie opens up.

Andrew: Okay.

Micah: So you're getting that very ominous tone right from the get-go.

Scene-by-Scene: Dumbledore's Tomb

Andrew: So then we get the look at Dumbledore's tomb, which is - it looks like - [laughs] I'm sorry, but what's going on here? Why is Dumbledore's tomb the bottom of a Jenga puzzle?

Micah: [laughs] Yeah. I kind of was trying to think what puzzle to call it, but that's probably the most accurate. I think maybe LEGO Harry Potter got a little bit of a deal in this whole thing.

Andrew: Oh no! That's exactly what it is. Oh. Not good.

Micah: But yeah, it looked a little bit weird, like they were opening something out of The Da Vinci Code.

Andrew: Yeah. I - now of course I don't have the description off the top of my head, but - from the book - but surely J.K. Rowling did not describe it as a basic rectangle standing with two smaller rectangles underneath of it.

Micah: Probably not.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: But you would think that wherever Dumbledore would be buried it would be very secure and only somebody who is as intelligent and as well-versed in magic as Voldemort would be able to open his tomb.

Andrew: Yeah. Okay, so that's disappointment one of this trailer.

Micah: But they're a little too close for comfort there, though.

Andrew: What do you mean?

Micah: In that shot with - it's very ominous, very eerie - of Voldemort hanging over Dumbledore.

Andrew: Oh, okay. Right. So we get to...

Micah: Did I jump ahead?

Andrew: Yeah, you kind of did. [laughs]

Micah: Sorry.

Andrew: The shot of Voldemort sticking his head into the tomb face to face with Dumbledore. And this was the preview we saw at Comic Con. We saw this shot. This is what I was trying to describe to you a few weeks ago. And I think it's fair to say this is one of the eeriest scenes that has ever hit the Harry Potter films, am I right?

Micah: Yeah, absolutely. It's just - what happens? Is this the exact same shot that they showed you, there wasn't any more after it?

Andrew: No, this is it. We saw...

Micah: He didn't say anything?

Andrew: During the Comic - we didn't hear him say anything, I don't think. During the Comic Con preview we just saw this shot right here of Voldemort and Dumbledore. A little bit wider, but - [laughs]. I wonder - okay. Do you think that's actually Michael Gambon, or is that a fake...

Micah: It may be fake.

Andrew: I'm thinking it's fake, too. Because if it wasn't, if it was a real Michael Gambon, he totally would have done a couple joke takes where he just wakes up...

Micah: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: ...and just laughs.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Micah: I was thinking that, I was thinking that Michael Gambon wouldn't take that scene too seriously at the very beginning...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...he'd be making the directors waste a lot of different takes and money, so.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. [laughs]

Micah: Maybe it was a prosthetic Dumbledore.

Andrew: Yeah, I think so. I think so. My set report will reveal that information in due time.

Micah: Oh, okay. I'm glad to hear that.

Scene-by-Scene: Trio Standing Around

Andrew: So [laughs] you know what we do - I do have to admit - what we do get a lot of in this trailer and in pictures that we've seen released, and the past two trailers is we get a lot of Harry, Ron, and Hermione standing in the middle of nowhere. Now, granted, that happens in the book, yes - and this was the concern, like you brought up at the top of the hour, Micah, or ten minutes ago. People are worried that there won't be enough action, and so we see this shot of Harry standing on a cliff, I believe this location was also used for the Pixar film "Up" And we see a tent in the background, presumably Ron and Hermione are in there, but what do you think is going to be going on during these scenes when Harry's just standing around?

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: Micah, you're on your mute button again. You really need to stop putting that on your earbud.

Micah: No, no, what happened was I tried to bring up the UStream here, and an ad blasted on through the speakers, so I figured you didn't want to have to listen to that.

Andrew: Oh, okay. Well thank you, you're very thoughtful. But did you hear what I said?

Micah: No. [laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] Harry - what are they going to be doing during these scenes when Harry, Ron, and Hermione are standing in the middle of nowhere? For example, the shot I have up right now, at twenty-one seconds in, Harry is just standing on the cliff, on the rocks, staring around. There seems like there's going to be a lot of these during the film.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: So...

Micah: I think that's - that's probably what a fan's biggest concern is going to be going into this film, is having too much of these types of moments. It is a little bit worrisome, I'm sure David Yates did a great job mixing them in, but I...

Andrew: As long as they're all one to five seconds...

Micah: ...I wouldn't be too concerned.

Andrew: ...they can't be too long.

Micah: Yeah. The hard part is, though, for a large part of the beginning of Deathly Hallows, this is what is going on, though. They're traveling around from one place to another.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: I know Eric said that what made it was the fact that some of the places that they go to have these great landscapes, so I don't - to me, that's not going to help me like that scene any more, just because they happen to be in a really nice place.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: [laughs] So...

Andrew: "The scene sucks, but at least it looks cool." [laughs]

Micah: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: And if you're just joining us, thank you for tuning in. It's Micah and I here. We're discussing the Deathly Hallows trailer that was just released about forty five minutes ago. Of course, the Internet is in a frenzy over this trailer. I presume, Micah, it's the final trailer we're going to be getting for Part I, right?

Micah: I would say this is probably it. Yeah, I don't see anything else coming around, maybe a short thirty second...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah:, but they'll probably chop up parts from this. I really don't think that they can give away that much more at this point.

Scene-by-Scene: Hermione, The Burrow and Dumbledore

Andrew: Yeah, so then we see Hermione and Hermione is just - this is another one of those shots that I was talking about - Hermione is just standing there looking a little emo. Then, next shot we get - this is actually - something about this shot I really like - it's Ron standing in front of The Burrow and he's sort of just all alone, and you can see Mrs. Weasley and Ginny in the background, and there's something very artistic about it. There's nothing else really to say about it, but...

Micah: Now, this shot that you have up now of the river. [laughs]

Andrew: Oh, what about it? It's a split second long.

Micah: No, I was - I was just joking.

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, okay. Moving along, a couple quick flashes, then we get to ghostly Dumbledore and it's a very brief shot and we saw it in the TV spot so that was really nothing to...

Micah: That'd be cool on a ride, to have ghostly Dumbledore pop up...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: you're on the roller coaster or something.

Scene-by-Scene: Harry and Hermione in the Cemetery

Andrew: Yeah, well, if recent news is to be believed, then hopefully we will be seeing a double in size Wizarding World theme park but we'll save that for another episode of MuggleCast. As we move along, we get to Hermione and Harry in the cemetery looking at James and Lily Potter's grave. What does it say at the very bottom? "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." Aw, isn't that nice. Now, I hope - has everyone gotten a good look at the grave yet? Because we want to make sure there are no issues like there was the Goblet of Fire grave scene when there was a major mistake on that that Warner Bros. had to fix. Do you remember that?

Micah: Yeah, yeah I do.

Andrew: Right, okay.

Micah: Little bit of a conflict, yeah.

Andrew: Oh my gosh, I noticed Harry has stubble and facial hair! [laughs] This really is a road movie, ladies and gentlemen.

Micah: Well, he is what? Twenty in real life?

Andrew: Right.

Micah: So, I would hope that he does.

Andrew: I'm not saying that's a surprise.

Micah: Oh.

Andrew: It's just that they always are shaved, [laughs] but this is a road movie.

Micah: Well, yeah, they're on the road man!

Andrew: Tough times. I don't know, but Hermione's got that giant bag that you could put a...

Micah: Hermione doesn't have any stubble going on, which is good.

Scene-by-Scene: Two-Way Mirror

Andrew: We'll have to check to make sure in the hi-res version, but as of right now, it looks like no. Okay, so then we get the close-up shot of Harry and he's looking into the two-way mirror and you see Aberforth in it, but it totally looks like Michael Gambon. [laughs] Do you think?

Micah: Yeah. Do you remember when Harry first looks into it, he thinks he sees Dumbledore?

Andrew: Right.

Micah: The Dumbledore that he knows, so perhaps, they did use Michael Gambon for that scene.

Andrew: Well, that's what I was just thinking. Are we seeing this through Harry's perspective, so we actually do see Michael Gambon?

Micah: It's possible, because the next scene is Dumbledore falling off the Astronomy Tower.

Andrew: Yeah, and you see the blackened hand. Of course, this is a clip from Half-Blood Prince. I can't remember the dialogue that was happening at this exact moment.

Micah: He looks comfortable there though.

Andrew: Dumbledore falling? [laughs]

Micah: He looks comfortable.

Andrew: Have you seen the end of the movie?

Micah: Yeah!

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Andrew: Well, when you're dead, I mean you are kind of comfortable.

Micah: He's not, he's not - yeah, I guess.

Andrew: I mean, you can't show any emotion.

Micah: You're just kind of floating out there.

Scene-by-Scene: Voldemort Casting A Spell

Andrew: Yeah, I guess. And then, we see Voldemort, he's casting a spell [laughs]. And honestly, he's doing it oddly, I think this is when he has, uh - who does he have? - could this be when he has Bertha Jorkins? I think this is when Bertha Jorkins is standing there, or is floating in the middle of the air. Or [Charity] Burbage! Thank you, to everyone in the chat. I've got my books mixed up. We're doing Goblet of Fire Chapter-by-Chapter right now. And I'm very confused. But, okay, so that's probably what's going on in this spot. And Matt is joining us. Recorded Voice: The person whom you are trying to reach is currently unavailable.

Andrew: Hello Matt!

Matt: Hello everybody.

Andrew: Hold on. Let's get you on camera, to make sure you're actually here. Oh, look, he is actually here! Welcome to the show.

Matt: Oh thanks.

Andrew: You're actually just in time because Micah's in New York City where there was just a power outage, so the power just died where he is.

Matt: Oh, nice.

Andrew: So, it's just you and me.

Matt: So you've been by yourself?

Andrew: No, like literally ten seconds ago, he left.

Matt: Hasn't New York already suffered a power outage too?

Andrew: Uh, they're suffering it right now.

Matt: No, but they did before, a tornado hit them or something.

Andrew: Ah, that's right, maybe they did. But this is not the WeatherCast, this is MuggleCast, so lets get back into the trailer here! Matt...

Matt: Okay, I haven't seen it yet.

Andrew: Well, good, you can play the role of the person who hasn't seen the trailer.

Matt: Great. Can I play the role of the person who's seen it though pretty soon?

Scene-by-Scene: Old Footage

Andrew: [laughs] Yes. So, we get the shot of Dumbledore. And - or sorry, Voldemort - we talked about that. We get to a shot of Harry. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is from the Order of the Phoenix.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Because - and somebody brought this up on my Twitter feed - there's a couple of times when they actually reuse clips. And honestly, it's kind of annoying. Micah, welcome back.

Micah: Sorry about that. We had a huge thunderstorm come through here, and, of course, the power goes out after the fact, not during.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: So, I think tonight is just a technical nightmare all across the board.

Andrew: I think it is too.

Matt: Hey Micah!

Micah: Hey Matt, what's going on?

Matt: Nothing much, just chillin'.

Micah: You chillin'?

Matt: Apparently, there's a trailer that just got released too.

Micah: Really? I had no idea.

Andrew: All right, so we're at 40 seconds in, if you're following along at home. We see a black crow. Or is this an owl? [laughs]

Micah: It's Hedwig, charred.

Scene-by-Scene: Birds, Symbols, & Snakes

Andrew: [laughs] We fixed her, she's free! But she's charred. So, I guess that's a hard call. I think that's some sort of bird. I'm assuming it's an owl.

Matt: Can I just watch this freaking trailer or something?

Andrew: Yeah, watch it to yourself.

Matt: Okay, I'm going to watch it to myself.

Andrew: Okay, so then at 41 seconds, we get a shot of the - we see the Deathly Hallows symbol, and then we get a shot of Harry. This trailer's just full of [laughs] random, quick, one-second shots. We see the snake. We see Ron on the ground. We see the Gryffindor Sword. These are all, keep in mind, these are all happening second by split second.

Micah: Yeah, they try to sneak things in there.

Scene-by-Scene: Fire

Andrew: Yeah, but nothing really too discussion worthy, which is why I'm moving through it pretty quickly. We see Harry on the ground. It's...

Micah: What's the fire in there? Can you close in on the fire?

Andrew: The fire, I think, is when they - it's in Hogwarts when Draco sets the fire, isn't it?

Micah: Okay, well, is it all from Part I or...?

Andrew: Oh, yeah, you're right.

Micah: Or are they slicing in clips?

Andrew: You see the snake, so...

Micah: Could it be at Lovegood's home possibly?

Andrew: Yeah, it could be. You see some shrubbery outside.

Micah: Anybody in the chat? Any ideas?

Andrew: Some people are saying it's - yeah, they may be right. Bathilda, when she turns into Nagini, when she turns into a snake.

Micah: She can turn herself on fire?

Andrew: I don't know - that is - maybe she knocks over a lamp or something, and it catches fire! Then we get the shot of Harry. He's just laying there on the ground. And then we get - who's house is this? Is this Hermione's? No.

Micah: Where are we now?

Scene-by-Scene: Malfoy Manor

Andrew: At 45 seconds in, we see the mansion.

Micah: I'm trying to bring the stream back up, but that stupid ad is playing again.

Andrew: I'm sorry. We're at 45 seconds in, where we see a mansion.

Micah: Is it Malfoy Manor or not yet?

Andrew: Oh, that must be it, yes. I think this is the first time we're getting a look at the outside of it, though, in the trailer, which is why I didn't pick up on it immediately.

[Matt laughs]

Scene-by-Scene: Voldemort and Snape, Umbridge

Andrew: But it's kind of odd. You see these two - Malfoy Manor, the front lawn, it's like they have two Christmas tree farms on either side of the front gate, and they're closed in. They're just sort of sitting there. Kind of strange. Okay, so Voldemort - and then we see this great shot of Snape talking to Voldemort, and he says the following:

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "...infiltrated the Ministry."

Andrew: Well, let's rewind that so we can hear that properly again. Snape says the following:

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "We have infiltrated the Ministry."

Andrew: "We have infiltrated the Ministry." And then we get our first look at Umbridge! I've been looking forward to seeing her for so long, and she's in a very white pink.

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: Micah, your analysis on the white pink.

Micah: It still doesn't make her look...

Matt: Dobby!

Micah: I can hear the trailer in the background...

Andrew: That's probably from Matt's...

Micah: The playback.

Andrew: That's probably from Matt's mic.

Micah: Yeah, I'm getting some playback.

Scene-by-Scene: Magic is Might

Andrew: Okay. So, at 48 seconds in, we get to the shot of the "Magic is Might" statue. Now, this is the first time we're getting a look at this, too. It's in the center of the Ministry of Magic, and we see what looks like Muggles holding up the statue. It's very eerie because - and this is obviously a very intense visual.

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: Micah, are you there?

Micah: Yes, I'm here.

Andrew: Do you have anything to say about this "Magic is Might" statue?

Micah: Yeah, it's definitely creepy. That's for sure. And the picture you showed before with Umbridge looking hot in that pink dress, that was creepy, too, because you saw how everybody was lined up. It almost was reminiscent of what you would see in a movie that would have parts of the Holocaust in it. You know, the guy that's there with the clipboard, ready to check people in. And then you see this statue of, like you said, these Muggles supporting the "Magic is Might" statue, and we got a really good shot, a good photo of this statue, at least the top part of it where is said "Magic is Might," earlier today.

Andrew: Right, and at the bottom here of this shot, at 48 seconds in, you can see some Ministry officials running towards a wizard or two, towards the bottom of the shot. Do you see that? If you scroll back and forth, you can see them moving at the bottom, and it's hard to tell who exactly they're chasing after, but...

Micah: Oh yeah.

Matt: Well, there is a chase scene in the Ministry.

Andrew: Yeah, I wonder if this is - oh, I guess this is Harry and Hermione. Could it...?

Matt: Well, isn't it right after that shot when Harry does a spell towards the camera? I mean, it could be in sequence because right after that, they start running.

Micah: Now, who are these people next to Umbridge? One of them is Pius Thicknesse, who took over.

Andrew: Is one of them Ludo? I think the guy on the far right is Ludo?

Micah: Ludo's in Goblet of Fire. I don't think he's in...

Matt: Ludo Bagman?

Andrew: I'm trying to remember - oh, somebody...

Micah: There's Yaxley.

Andrew: Yeah, Yaxley, Thicknesse, and some people are saying - I don't know. Nobody's really sure. Thicknesse.

Matt: Thicknesse. Yeah, Thickness?

Andrew: Runcorn. People think it's also Runcorn. And we haven't seen these actors yet, so I guess we would have to go just by what's happening in the book.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: But Umbridge looks good, and it's refreshing to see Umbridge. I mean, you can tell Imelda Staunton, who plays her, she's still got it. She's still got that smirk.

Matt: She's thrilled to be there.

Andrew: She's got that smirk, that hair.

Micah: Somebody in the chat wants to know if you've read the books, gosh.

Matt: No, God - dang, she's right.

Scene-by-Scene: Ministry Officials

Andrew: Okay, so then we get the shot of the Ministry officials, and like Micah said, they got their clipboards, they're checking people in presumably. And they have that red armband around their shoulder on the left, I noticed. Micah, what is that reminiscent of?

Micah: Nazi Germany.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. Now, I'm wondering if that was described in the book - with the red arm bands?

Micah: You know, I don't remember the arm - I don't know if that's something that Yates added to the film. I remember Eric talking about it when he did the short podcast with Emerson after they saw the film, and I forget - he said there was something on them, I forget what it was though.

Andrew: Maybe he was talking about that because that stands out! That was the first thing that I noticed in the wide shot that they were wearing those.

Micah: Mhm.

Andrew: Presumably, they have little "m"s on them.

Micah: Yeah, yeah. Maybe that was it.

Andrew: So then we see a shot of the trio and they're walking across the giant hilltop again with these scenic shots...

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: we're not sure what they're going to do with all these, unless it's going to be a nice long montage of all the scenic shots.

Matt: Well, isn't it in the book - a wizard is supposed to be sitting on a whole bunch of Muggles?

Andrew: Yeah, we talked about that before.

Matt: Was I not listening to it?

Andrew: The statue.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: When you were watching the trailer.

Matt: Sorry.

Scene-by-Scene: Voldemort and Nagini

Andrew: So we get past those shots then we see a shot of Voldemort and he's petting Nagini. [laughs]

Micah: Yeah, that was a little creepy, a little weird.

Andrew: And you see his nails. He needs to wash out his nails or something, it's about time. Then Voldemort - to get back up to speed here, let's hear what Voldemort is saying.

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "I must be the one to kill Harry Potter."

Andrew: So, Voldemort says that and then it kicks off into another montage of fast action clips and we see Nagini - what's the correct verb - slithering down the table, [laughs] and you can see quite a few people in the shot. We can see Snape, Draco, his father, Bellatrix, Narcissa, and a couple other unknowns.

Matt: Purely shot for the sake of 3D though.

Micah: Is that Yaxley across the table from Lucius? Because we just saw him in the Ministry right?

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Micah: Because it's Yaxley that chases them down and ends up on the foot - the doorstep of Grimmauld Place.

Scene-by-Scene: London

Andrew: Yeah, you're right, and speaking of that we're going to get to one of those shots soon. We see the trio - this is actually kind of clever, this will be a cool entrance - we see a shot of them Apparate into London, and as soon as they Apparate in they're right in front of a bus, [laughs] and it looks like in the next shot you see them back away just in time. [laughs] That's kind of funny.

Micah: That would have been a bad end to the movie.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, it would have been. So then we see a couple shots and they're like "Oh my god, I cannot believe we just Apparated in front of a bus. Go figure!" So then we see a couple more shots and these were seen in the original teaser trailer too.

Matt: Right.

Scene-by-Scene: The Dursley's House

Andrew: And then we get to Grimmauld Place, and Harry lets Mad-Eye in. This is, of course - oh no, no, no.

Matt: No, this is the Dursley's home.

Andrew: This is the Dursley's home, right.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Because I was going to say, wait, he's dead. Okay, so they get into the Dursleys' home, and this is where we see the Dursleys' home is evacuated, the Dursleys have left. As you can see, none of their furniture or kitchen appliances are - they're nowhere to be found.

Matt: Because they just moved.

Andrew: And the layout of this house - correct me if I'm wrong - this is different than what we saw in Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets.

Matt: We never see the left side of the living room.

Andrew: But look where the kitchen is in relation to the living room.

Matt: Well no, it's - it's not directly next to each other. I mean, it's - they're two different rooms.

Andrew: They're next to each other in the trailer though.

Matt: Are they? Oh.

Scene-by-Scene: The Seven Potters

Andrew: Yes, I'm looking at 1:05. Okay, so then we get our first look, finally, at the seven Potters and this too was in the Comic Con - Comic Con preview. But it was so fast you couldn't even see. [laughs] You couldn't - you didn't have a good chance to look at what was going on. So we see - so we see, of course, the seven Harrys and this looks good. It looks real. It doesn't look - it doesn't look digitized, it doesn't look fake.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And in a couple of interviews Dan Radcliffe commented on, you know, some really cool technology, apparently that they used to create this scene where the camera just replicated the shot seven times and then they - they were able to, you know, do seven takes. Of course, it - it took multiple takes for each shot so - for each Harry. Micah, any comments about this?

Micah: Yeah, like you guys said, it looks really cool. I'm trying to make out who's in the background. It looks like Lupin, Hagrid...

Andrew: And Arthur.

Micah: I can't - and Arthur, yeah.

Andrew: Hagrid's head is just... [laughs]. He's just...

Micah: Just clears the ceiling.

Matt: Hitting the ceiling, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly [laughs].

Matt: It looks good. Harry looks really good in a female shirt or blouse. That - that has to be Fleur.

Andrew: Yeah. In the blue?

Matt: Yeah.

Scene-by-Scene: The Wedding

Andrew: Yeah. Okay, so moving along, we see the exterior of the wedding - the wedding scene, because we see the Burrow...

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: And then there's the long pink carpet and then the party tent. And you can see Mr. Weasley's shack there, too, off the left.

Matt: Yeah, and the barn.

Andrew: Yeah. That made an appearance. So this is the - the scene where we hear Kingsley say the following:

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "They're coming. They're coming."

Matt: Oh, I was so excited.

Andrew: Now that's - that's definitely not how I pictured it in the - when I read it in the book. Was it for you guys?

Matt: Well it's not what he says. I mean he says "the Ministry has fallen, Scrimgeour's dead, they're coming."

Andrew: Right, well hopefully they - they included those other lines.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: They were just - they just cut it down for the trailer.

Micah: It didn't sound like Kingsley though.

Andrew: You don't think so?

Matt: I don't think we've seen enough of Kingsley to really connect it too, unless they do like an obvious, oh that's Kingsley's patronus.

Andrew: Well maybe you see him sending it.

Matt: Hopefully.

Andrew: So then we get a good look at the wedding party. Or, I mean, everybody who attended the wedding party. Oh wait, at 1:11 you see somebody's head in the Patronus but - and that does not look like Kingsley.

Micah: I'm trying to make this out.

Andrew: Do you see what I'm - I'm looking at? 1:15, there's this screaming head.

Micah: They brought back the shrunken heads? No.

Andrew: No, it's definitely not.

Matt: Is it not his patronus?

Andrew: Oh some people are saying it's Scrimgeour dying. I guess so, the nose looks a little - it doesn't - you know what it looks like, it looks like Jim Dale, to be perfectly honest [laughs]. But...

Micah: Yeah, it does.

Andrew: Oh they're saying it's Fudge. Some people are saying it's Fudge. But it doesn't really look like him either.

Matt: Is Fudge even credited in this film?

Andrew: Grindelwald...

Matt: Is he an actor?

Andrew: A lot of ideas going on in the chat on Ustream.

Micah: Well, no. Grindelwald isn't dead yet.

Andrew: Greyback. Pettigrew. Ehh...

Matt: Pettigrew?

Micah: Well, there is this scene later on I was trying to figure out who Voldemort and Pettigrew were going after.

Andrew: Well, somebody brought up in the chat a good point. In the USA Today article they have a bit of dialogue and they say it is Kingsley saying 'They are coming', so it's definitely him saying it.

Matt: Yeah! Why wouldn't it be. It's him in the book.

Andrew: Well, because Micah said it wasn't.

Matt: Oh. Micah.

Andrew: Okay, so...

Micah: What? What did I say?

Andrew: No. Nothing.

Micah: He's making shit up. I shouldn't [laughs] have said that either.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: But we're live, and you can't edit anything out.

Andrew: So we get to - I just want to go back for a second and look at the party scene. We see all the attendees seeing the Patronus come in, and we see quite a few people here, and this is at 1:10. We see Hagrid, Ginny, Ron - jeez who else do we see? Fleur, Bill, perhaps Arthur.

Matt: That's going to be such an awesome scene. They're going through all the tunnels and stuff.

Andrew: Somebody said - oh yeah, there's Luna right there in the dress. I think that - we see her back at least. Madame Maxime, of course right next to Hagrid [laughs] looking very tall as always. So the Patronus scene again with the mysterious head that we have no idea who that is...

Micah: Maybe we can ask Eric at some point later for the next episode and get a little clarification on what's going on there.

Andrew: Yeah. Then we see the shot of Hermione and Mrs. Weasley, and they're staring at the Patronus looking all scared. [laughs] Oh, Mrs. Weasley. She looks great. [laughs] She looks so terrified, and look at that - who's that behind Mrs. Weasley? It's Aunt Muriel. Dun duh duh duh dah! First look. This is at 1:12 if you're following along at home.

Micah: So did you always plan on intro-ing her like that?

Andrew: No. It sort of just came to mind.

Micah: She - I don't know - I don't think she would like that kind of intro.

Andrew: Dun duh duh duh dah! First look. No?

Micah: Yeah. Maybe.

Matt: No.

Andrew: We then see Harry, and he's looking outside of the wedding tent and then the shot up into the clouds, and it's - I presume it's - yeah - Death Eaters showing up sending spells at the wedding. Now the way the trailer sets it up we see Hermione grabbing on to Ron. We see Harry. Then we see Lupin say 'Go go go'...

Micah: Is that Draco?

Andrew: Where?

Micah: Behind Ron and Hermione in that shot.

Matt: Oh. I'm trying to see.

Andrew: No.

Matt: No. It's not.

Micah: Okay. Looked like him for...

Andrew: It's a very - he's got the same hair, but it's not.

Matt: It seems like - in the book it seemed like it happened so fast, but in this they're going to like linger for a bit and show some damage.

Andrew: Yeah. Oh and look who it is. It's Fred! Is it? Oh wait no. Who is this with - is it Fred? It is Fred, he's got the headband around him. I was so looking forward to seeing the missing ear. Aw.

Matt: I'm sure you'll live Andrew. You don't want to see a disfigured head - wait what are you looking at? Because I'm looking at the feed and I'm not seeing anything. I'm seeing Lupin holding Harry.

Andrew: Yeah, but in the background right to Lupin's left. Oh George. George. Sorry I get them two confused. George is the one with the missing ear and you see him right here at 1:17 and he's wearing the headband, which kind of disappoints me I was hoping we'd just see this giant gaping hole in the back of his head.

Micah: Yeah the easy way to remember it is that Fred's dead.

Andrew: Fred dead. Right

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: That's so sad.

Andrew: Jeez. Okay so we see Harry and Harry's obviously - there's Ginny right here so this is when Harry's trying to run after Ginny, but Lupin insists that no you must go, you must run and this is the one scene that gave me chills in this trailer out of [laughs] Lupin's got kind of a funny face on him.

Matt: No!

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