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Scene-by-Scene: The Motorbike

Andrew: As we move along here then we see what we saw in the TV spot Harry and Hagrid on the motorbike on the road and now people were looking forward to seeing them flying and at this point it just does not seem like they will be flying it seems like all the actions going to be going on down on the road which I guess...

Micah: Really?

Andrew: Well yeah I mean...

Micah: You'd think at some point they would go to the air. I mean wouldn't that be kind of weird to be driving down the road and you have Voldemort coming in your rear view mirror?

Andrew: But then again you - yeah, but then again wouldn't be awkward if like what happens is Hagrid like oh wait I forgot this thing can fly [laughs] and then he shoots up into the air?

Micah: Yeah, you're right. What - are they driving on the correct side? I guess so because - is that like a middle lane...

Andrew laughs

Micah: ...that they're in?

Andrew: No.

Matt: There is no wrong lane when you're riding Sirius' bike.

Andrew: No.

Micah: No, no I'm saying...

Andrew: It's just a two lane one direction road.

Micah: Right I know its opposite in Britain, but it looks like - I guess I didn't see the other cars going the other direction on the left I just looked at the empty lane on the right.

Andrew: Oh I see you're saying.

Matt: I mean they do fly. I mean we do see them flying together, but maybe...

Andrew: I guess only when Voldemort starts coming after them.

Matt: No, I don't think necessarily think it's going to be that long...

Andrew: Oh, wait!

Matt: ...while they're on the road.

Andrew: Actually you do, they are very hard to see but look, you can see Death Eaters back here. Right above the cars, the people on UStream can see my mouse moving but right towards the top you can see people on brooms flying in.

Matt: Maybe it's the same people, maybe it's the other Potters.

Andrew: No, no, they're Death Eaters. They're black cloaked and they're just riding by themselves.

Micah: Well we know they go to the air because we see the scene where their wands connect.

Andrew: Yeah, eventually. We were just wondering when they go up in the air.

Micah: This looks cool, you know. I think that this will be a much liked scene that's been added to the film.

Andrew: Yeah, I think it adds a lot to it when - this is classic film making when all the action is happening on the road and they're swerving in-between cars, we see it in every Bond movie, we see it in ever Bourne movie, we see it in every action movie.

Matt: Do you think this is early on in the chase or do you think it's later on? Because they find them, they obviously already flew because that's how they meet all the Death Eaters in mid-air.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, maybe and then they land on the ground.

Matt: Right, they try to find a way to maneuver them.

Scene-by-Scene: Running

Andrew: So, I'm moving ahead here. We see the trio running through the forest and the snatchers are going after them, we see Harry saying something. Let's rewind a bit and find out what Mr. Potter is saying to us all.

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "Nobody else is going to die. Not for me."

Andrew: "Nobody else is going to die, not for me," that was a pretty big line in the book I thought.

Matt: Mm, it's a pretty big promise.

Micah: Oh, what happened to Hermione?

Andrew: What's wrong with Hermione?

Micah: I don't know where you are in the stream right now...

Matt: She cast a pretty big spell. That was kind of cool. You see Hermione running full sprint but she cast a spell behind her, she can multitask, she's Hermione.

Andrew: That's some spell, she hardly - she just throws it back there and boom. It looks like the roots from the tree sort of came out from under the ground and [laughs] attacks them. So then we get to Grimmauld Place - what were you going to say Micah?

Micah: No, I was just going to say she doesn't mess around.

Andrew: Then we get to Grimmauld Place and we see, as someone is saying in the chat 'Dumbledust' but it's very brief we only see the dust swarm.

Micah: Yeah, we saw them earlier didn't we, right?

Andrew and

Matt: Right.

Andrew: Then there's the shot of Harry - sorry Ron, he's in the barn. [laughs] What barn, you may ask? I have no idea.

Matt: Now is this the sick Ron? Like the one that he leaves back home?

Andrew: No, no, no, no.

Matt: Oh. Do they even keep that scene?

Andrew: Um...

Matt: Or do they just skip it?

Andrew: I don't know, I don't know, we haven't heard anything. That would be another question for Eric as he has already seen it.

Matt: Oh okay.

Andrew: We see Harry and Ginny and then we see Death Eaters flying through the sky. This is of course the "Seven Potters" scene.

Micah: Well the scene before it, that's when Lupin attacks him right?

Andrew: Oh right.

Micah: Asks him to identify himself.

Andrew: Yeah. We saw stills from that a couple of weeks ago. What you don't see in this shot right here is Arthur, or sorry...

Micah: Lupin.

Andrew: Lupin. [laughs] Lupin about to walk in and he name checks him, but I think also if the caption is to be believed, I believe on the caption when W.B. released this still from the scene, it's them getting in a fight. I think. [sighs] Maybe, I think this might be when Harry and Lupin have that little fight about Lupin taking care of his kid.

Matt: Yeah, but that's at Grimmauld Place. That does not look like Grimmauld Place.

Micah: Yeah, this is at the Burrow, I think, when Harry comes back.

Matt: Yeah, this is when everyone comes back.

Micah: From the Seven Potters.

Matt: Because Ginny is there.

Andrew: Oh, when you see Hagrid is there. Isn't this Hagrid right behind Harry? You see his hand.

Matt: Well Ginny wouldn't even be there at Grimmauld Place when he and Harry get in the fight, with Lupin and Harry.

Andrew: Okay.

Matt: It's just the Trio and Lupin.

Andrew: So then we see the Death Eaters riding the Thestrals, and we see one of them get blown up. I wish...

Micah: I think - well I would have guessed that that was Mad-Eye getting killed, but I don't know that they put that in the film based on what Eric had to say. I think he said you find out after the fact. Once they all arrive at the Burrow, that Mad-Eye was killed.

Andrew: Well this definitely isn't Mad-Eye getting killed, because you see he's wearing a mask.

Micah: okay.

Matt: No, that's a Death Eater.

Andrew: Right, right.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: You see the Death Eater. But I wonder - Oh, this is Kingsley. You can totally see this is Kingsley right here. He's wearing the clothes you saw in Order of the Phoenix as well.

Matt: Kingsley's got style.

Andrew: So that's how I recognized him. Cool. So that's one of the first times we saw something like that. Then this is when the music cuts out, and Harry and Ron have their little fight.

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays]

Harry: "You think I don't know how this feels?"

Ron: "No, you don't know how it feels! Your parents are dead! You have no family!

Hermione: Stop!

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip ends]

Andrew: Oh my God. [laughs]

Matt: So much drama and gossip, Potter.

Andrew: And you hear a little [gasps] from Hermione. [laughs] So this should be - honestly, I think this should be one of the more emotional scenes in all the scenes. Seeing Harry and Ron actually fight, it will be pretty emotional, I think. Pretty stunning.

Matt: Pretty climatic.

Andrew: Pretty heart-aching.

Matt: I'm excited for this fight because this is the only fight you ever get to see Ron and Harry do. Harry kind of has a little crying scene with Ron in Book 5, but you don't get to see them actually have an all out fight against each other, so it's going to be interesting.

Scene-by-Scene: Dobby

Andrew: Skipping ahead a bit, we see Dobby, our first look at Dobby! He's looking good.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: What, Micah?

Micah: No, no. Go ahead.

Andrew: No. What? Please, what were you laughing about?

Micah: Nothing. Matt laughed too.

Matt: What is wrong with Dobby? He looks nothing like he did in Book 2.

Micah: Yeah. I was going to say that. He looks like he's in that Defense Against the Dark Arts room, too.

Andrew: He does. [laughs] That's what I thought too.

Matt: Yeah. He doesn't even - I don't know. It just doesn't look that good.

Andrew: Well you know what I think it is? To give Warners Bros. the benefit of the doubt, I think it's been ten years. They've absolutely have had major advancements in CGI. So I think if anything he looks better - he's going to look more real.

Matt: Well no, it's not that - it looks like he's obviously CGI'd in that scene. It doesn't look like he's really...

Andrew: Mmm, that's not fair though because the shot's not moving, there's no...

Matt: Well maybe it's not done. Maybe they haven't finished it yet.

Andrew: Yeah, this may not even be finished. They may have just added that stupid background just for the trailer.

Micah: Right. Now this is in Malfoy Manor, but is it possible they reused the Defense Against the Dark Arts set in this room? Because that looks really familiar...

Matt: It wouldn't be the first time.

Micah: The set.

Andrew: But it's just - I see what you're saying - it's that little...

Micah: Balcony.

Andrew: Right, right, but wasn't - there was a staircase leading up to the one in Chamber of Secrets - at least one of the balconies, so.

Micah: Yeah, they could have removed it.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: No, they don't need just one balcony in this entire movie series. They probably added another one, too.

Andrew: So we get a title that says, "This Fall".

Micah: Somebody asked, "Why's Dobby still wearing the pillowcase?"

Matt: Yeah, I was wondering that. Doesn't he get a tea cozy for a hat or something, too? In the past ten years - or we'll say eight years - hasn't he developed some type of clothing?

Micah: I would think so.

Matt: Yeah, get some socks or something.

Andrew: It's hard to say.

Matt: Oh, Dobby.

Scene-by-Scene: Pettigrew in Malfoy Manor

Andrew: So we see "This Fall" title and then we see a shot of Voldemort and Pettigrew - Pettigrew's got the silver hand it looks like. Oh, and this is Ollivander! Is this the...

Micah: I don't think it's Ollivander.

Andrew: You don't think so?

Micah: I...

Andrew: I would almost say this is Malfoy Manor. Now I don't...

Micah: This is underneath the...

Andrew: Underneath Malfoy Manor.

Matt: Yeah, this is the cellar. That's where they throw everybody down.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Because you see the staircase behind Pettigrew.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Now I don't particularly remember - some people are saying it could be Gregorovitch, too.

Micah: I don't think it's Gregorovitch because you see that scene of Gregorovitch backing up in his wand shop in the other trailer...

Matt: This is obviously - oh, sorry, go ahead Micah.

Micah: Doesn't he also kill Grindelwald?

Matt: Yes, but at least in the book we don't really get a very good glimpse of what's going on - we just see him dying. Like, "I know what you're here for and I don't have it."

Andrew: Someone said this also may be Harry's vision of what's going on in the Burrow.

Matt: That's what I think, too!

Andrew: I think that makes the most sense.

Matt: It makes the most sense because he does see Voldemort torturing Ollivander. And so they may just add a couple clouds around just to make sure he's - so it's obviously looking through his mind or something.

Andrew: Well see how the camera's kind of drifting? I think that sort of gives you a good enough idea that it's sort of like a vision. Okay, so - alright, we figured that one out. Yay. [laughs]

Micah: Hopefully.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] We see Harry riding on the motorbike - what did I say with that TV spot, Micah - do you remember?

Micah: What's that? Say that again.

Andrew: Do you remember what I said - Harry and the motorbike scenes when we talked about seeing this during the TV spot? I said we're going to see these stupid shots of Harry on the motorbike over and over and over again, and this is totally what we got in this trailer. They're not going to stop.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: I really don't mind as long as they keep away from the Hedwig scene. I want to be surprised.

Scene-by-Scene: Grindelwald

Andrew: So then we get to a shot of Voldemort and the picture is skewed, it's stretched out, and this has happened before, and looks at this, this shot is stretched out too. Now who's this? Is this Gregorovitch?

Micah: No, I think that's Grindelwald.

Andrew: This is Grindelwald, okay.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: You see in the - on the rock, is that a chain? Because he's in prison, remember.

Matt: Yes.

Micah: And this is all during the Elder Wand search.

Matt: That's why he's happy, because he knows that he came to a dead end.

Andrew: Oh, yes! Perfect! So then that was that - was that the shot of Grindelwald we were talking about earlier?

Matt: No, that was Gregorovitch.

Andrew: Ah, I'm so confused.

Micah: You mean the shot in the cellar?

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I think you were right, I think that...

Andrew: That was Harry having a vision.

Micah: ...was Ollivander.

Matt: Yeah, no, the one in the cellar was definitely Ollivander.

Andrew: Oh, okay. All right, very good. This is pretty exciting seeing this all finally come to life. So then we see Bill and Fleur on top of a Thestral arriving at what looks like The Burrow, with tall grass around it.

Matt: Yeah, there is corn, and grass looking stuff.

Andrew: We see a title called "Can Live."

[Matt laughs]

Scene-by-Scene: Back to the Ministry

Andrew: We're in the Ministry, we see the Magic is Might statue again with the Muggles holding up the two wizards and then we see - this is also in the Ministry - you can see Harry's transforming back, you can see Harry's glasses, and it almost kind of looks like the suit's a little too big for him.

Matt: Yeah.

Micah: Hermione is too right? She's transforming also.

Matt: It looks like Hermione's halfway through transforming.

Andrew: You think so? That's totally her face though.

Matt: It is her face but she's looking kind of aged. Like her skin is kind of droopy a bit.

Andrew: Her hair is disappearing, it's shrinking away.

Matt: Yeah. I think she's in mid-transformation.

Andrew: Yeah, they probably all are. Probably all are. Now we see a few Death Eaters and I'm looking at - on the left side here - trying to figure out what that is.

Matt: That looks like the eagle that led up to Dumbledore's office.

Andrew: It does, but it doesn't have its...

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: ...yeah.

Micah: What are you talking about? In the top...

Andrew: Top left, at 1:46.

Micah: ...above the Dementor?

Andrew: Yeah. Very far left.

Matt: Well this is definitely probably where what's her face - Imelda Staunton's character - Umbridge...

Micah: Umbridge.

Matt: Where she's - [sighs] questioning the wife of one of the officials at the Ministry. You know, when they're being surrounded by Dementors? [pause] Do you know the scene I'm talking about?

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah. Do you think this is the scene?

Andrew: Could be. It's hard to tell.

Micah: Yeah, I'm trying to see what that is, but...

Andrew: It doesn't matter, it's just...

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: So then we see Snape and - a very brief shot of Snape, and it looks like he's about to cast a spell. Or he's flinging them away like, "Get away! Get away!"

Micah: Do you think...

Matt and

Andrew: "Stop it! Stop it!"

Micah: Is that protecting Malfoy Manor or do you think this is the Silver Doe? I know he does it in Dumbledore's office.

Matt: Yeah. I don't know what this could be. Maybe when he's defending - maybe they moved him getting defended off of McGonagall before he flees.

Andrew: I think it is Malfoy Manor...

Matt: Oh no, that's Part II.

Andrew: Because when we see the wide shot of Malfoy Manor, you see the giant grass walls.

Matt: Oh yeah! You're right! And the white pillars.

Micah: Yeah. Because I know - what was I going to say - because the book actually opens with him and Yaxley walking around Malfoy Manor.

Andrew: Yeah. So skipping ahead a bit, we see Bellatrix with what looks like a whip. And we talked about this before...

Matt: What is with her?

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: So she's got a whip and she's got the Gryffindor sword in her other hand - she's holding onto it. So this is obviously when they were trying to get it from her.

Micah: She's looking for a good night.

[Matt and Andrew laugh]

Scene-by-Scene: Lovegood's House

Andrew: And then we see - oh, the poor Lovegood's house under attack! And we see [laughs] Xenophilius standing on the front steps and his knees are buckling in. He's just - you can see the look of hopelessness coming out of him.

Matt: What a weirdo.

Andrew: And then...

Micah: Why would they go back to the same thing they did to the Burrow? I mean, wouldn't it have been just as effective to have the Death Eaters show up at his doorstep?

Matt: Didn't they do that in the book?

Andrew: It's just filmmaking-wise, it's just cinematically...

Micah: Yeah, I know...

Andrew: [laughs] It's a poor innocent home sitting in the middle of nowhere. It couldn't possibly be safer.

Matt: Well, in the book the [Death Eaters] come in through the front door. Let's just burn the place down and destroy it! [pause] I think it's - I don't know...

Scene-by-Scene: Dobby Again

Andrew: So then we see the inside of the house being destroyed, and we get the quick shot of Harry on the ground. And we saw a still of this shot released by Entertainment Weekly a few weeks ago if everybody remembers. And again, the shot, they're coming down - the house is coming down. Black again. Ron and Hermione, arm-in-arm. Let's hear what happens here.

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "Help me!"

Andrew: I love that line: "Help me! Help me!"

Matt: Oh, god. So sad!

Andrew: Well, hold on. Wait a second. Is this - no, it's not Harry - what is he asking for help for?

Matt: Dobby's dead!

Andrew: Oh, I was thinking that he was burying Dobby right here...

Matt: No...

Andrew: But Harry does that on his own.

Matt: He's dying at that point. He's screaming - he's saying [whispers] "Harry Potter"...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...before he dies. He's dying!

Andrew: So what are they going to do?

Matt: Well, maybe it's just a reaction. When there's someone dying right in front of you and you don't know what to do, don't you cry out for help?

Andrew: Hermione's like, "I'm sorry! I don't have a spell for this one for once." [laughs]

Matt: Awww.

Andrew: Okay. So, yeah. Pretty emotional. I thought for a second this was Harry burying Dobby, and I was going to be upset because of course, in the book Harry does it on his own. And that's when Kreacher has that wonderful change of heart. So then we see Harry throwing a Patronus in the Ministry, it looks like.

Matt: Yeah. Hermione's still - I think Hermione's not quite changed at all yet.

Andrew: And it cuts to a shot of Lucius and he's in his own home. This is not Harry casting that spell. It's just how they edit these things for the trailer. So he sort of flies upward, whatever is happening.

Matt: That looks like a Dobby spell.

Andrew: Then we see Ollivander. We've seen that shot before. We see Harry and Hagrid on the motorbike. We see Ron going in the water grabbing - well, trying to reach for the sword. And then we see Harry, Ron taking the sword. A lot of - these are a lot of the shots we had seen previously. We see Voldemort casting a little spell. And this - this is Tom Riddle right here. It's got to be, right? At 1:58 - you can't see his face, but we see the Tom Riddle hairdo.

Matt: That's just - that's just a shot from a previous film.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: That's totally from Chamber of Secrets.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Because they do that a lot - why do they do that in these trailers?

Andrew: I don't know. And then at the two-minute mark you would think, "Oh, it must be done. The trailer's two minutes long - we're done." No, not yet! We see the shot of Voldemort, and this is from Order of the Phoenix which is so frustrating. And you see them stretching out the picture because they don't have anything else to fill this moment in the trailer with, which is so...

Matt: So not only are they going to add an old scene, they're going to try and fool us by obscuring the way the screen is.

Scene-by-Scene: Final Moments

Andrew: To fool us, but we won't fall for it.

Matt: By stretching the screen.

Andrew: We see a close-up shot of Harry zooms into his eye. Black.

[Deathly Hallows trailer clip plays] "It is mine."

Andrew: "I have seen your heart, and it is mine." We see a great shot of Voldemort sending up a spell in the air, and it cuts to - it cuts to the Harry Potter logo. So go figure. It's Voldemort all along who keeps creating this Harry Potter logo.

Matt: Of course.

Micah: [laughs] Well, this is the protection, right? Or the "protection" that's around Hogwarts that he's shooting up into the air?

Andrew: Well, no, no. It looks like that, but it just turns into the giant "P" from "Harry Potter", so I think - I don't think...

Matt: They just added it?

Andrew: Yeah. You'll see the shot of Voldemort sending the spell up into the air, but I think that's when Voldemort's standing on Dumbledore's grave.

Micah and

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: With the Elder Wand. So it's just an effect.

Micah: Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.

Andrew: So that's the trailer - Part I of the epic finale, November 19th. Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, it will be in 3D theaters everywhere so you can see the snake come right at you.

Matt: I don't want Dobby's death in 3D.

Andrew: Well, then you can watch it in 2D.

Matt: Fine! I'll go see it in 2D.

Trailer Roundtable

Andrew: So again you're listening to MuggleCast Live. We're talking about the trailer. We just went scene-by-scene through the entire thing picking apart the difficult parts, the parts we absolutely recognized. Micah, what were some of the stand-out scenes for you in this trailer?

Micah: Stand-out scenes - I definitely like the scene at the wedding when the Patronus or whatever that was showed up to the wedding to warn everybody, kind of the insanity that ensued afterwards. Seeing Harry running over trying to get to Ginny, everybody scrambling, I like that. I like the scenes also with Voldemort in them. Voldemort and Snape, Voldemort obviously going after Ollivander down there in the cellar. But again, I don't think they gave a whole lot away as far as the Deathly Hallows were concerned. We didn't see much of that. The focus of the trailer was kind of all over the place.

Andrew: It was. It was a lot. But that's what they - but the final trailer, I think, is always a mash-up as much as possible. They explain having - I mean, what were some of the key points in this trailer? They ran through the Ministry - well, the Ministry, you sort of got the idea that the Ministry - things were going awry at the Ministry. You see that Voldemort's after Harry, obviously.

Matt: Yeah. They don't really go too much into the plot.

Andrew: You get a good look at the wedding, though - or the wedding after-party, at least. You know what's still really bugging me, though? A couple of things are still bugging me. One, that damn shot of Dumbledore's grave and it's just a rectangle. It's a box. It's a Jenga puzzle as I said earlier in the show. I really hope they do something else with that because right now it looks - [laughs] I just don't get it! What is that? UGH!

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: It looks like a LEGO piece.

Micah: That's what we were saying earlier. LEGO Harry Potter got a little cut.

Matt: Oh my god! Micah, did you know that I have that game?

Micah: Yeah, I heard you got the game.

Matt: So much fun! I'm on Year 4 right now.

Micah: Nice.

Andrew: I think another stand-out thing for me was Umbridge, seeing her for the first time. I think that was...

Matt: That was great!

Andrew: I said on the last episode I've been really looking forward just seeing her. Period.

Matt: She just has that presence.

Andrew: Yeah. And if you guys remember in Order of the Phoenix at the beginning of the film, her dresses were a light pink, and as the film went on they got darker and darker to sort of reflect her anger. And I wonder if they're going to do that here. Of course, you don't see Umbridge as much in this movie, but maybe you see the colors change a heck of a lot quicker.

Matt: I hope this movie is going to be so great we won't even notice what color her dress is.

Andrew: The Nazi Germany red armband, that was another thing that definitely stuck out for me.

Matt: Honestly, I think the only thing I keep thinking about is Dobby. He's been absent this entire series since Movie 2. Now with his triumphant return, that's all I can think about right now.

Andrew: Micah, any stand-out scenes for you?

Micah: Yeah, I said definitely the wedding scene and Kingsley's Patronus. I liked seeing the chase scene. I'm interested to see - we talked about it a lot like how they do that with going through the traffic and then having to go back to the air and how they work all that out.

Matt: The Seven Potters looks really great, too. Just the opening scene with all of them together.

Micah: Yeah, definitely.

Matt: Because we've been waiting to watch - to see anything from that scene.

Micah: Yep. You know, a lot of Voldemort's interaction with the Death Eaters also - with Snape in that opening scene and also with Lucius, to see how he treats him. We - I know, Matt, you said it looked like a Dobby spell that knocked him backwards, but I almost wonder if Voldemort kind of picks on him a bit like he does in the book. Because doesn't he take Lucius's wand from him at one point because he can't use his own against Harry?

Matt: Like a little slap in the face.

Micah: Yeah.

Matt: Yeah, I could see that.

Andrew: Maybe that's what's going on. Let's see, what else, what else?

Matt: Well, we're just talking about stuff that comes from our mind, right? Like things that stood out. I'm really happy that Fleur is back. Just the fact that she's in this film just makes it all the more legit. Because she's not that big of a character, except for in Deathly Hallows because she gets married, but just the fact that they got the same actress to come back and everything, I think it's really nice.

Live Calls

Andrew: Well, now we want to hear your thoughts about the film for a few minutes before we wrap up the show. You can call in 1-218-206-2442, that's 1-218-206-2442. When you call, please mute your stream and please have something to talk about, because if we answer and you have nothing to talk about, then it's kind of a little strange. Hello Roxanne!

[Caller says something]

Andrew: Roxanne?

Matt: Roxanne...

Caller: Yes?

Andrew: Hi! Welcome to MuggleCast Live.

Caller: Hi! [laughs]

Andrew: What are your thoughts about the trailer?

Caller: I think it's very nice. I liked it. All my friends are on Facebook and are like, "Ah! It's so amazing!"

Andrew: Were there any stand-out scenes for you?

Caller: You know what I thought [stood] out particularly? Is when they go to the Ministry and you see Umbridge there and then you see a guy - he looks like a soldier checking the people.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: I thought that was really cool.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. We were talking about that earlier. It sort of has that Nazi Germany feel.

Caller: Yeah.

Andrew: And I think it'll be interesting to hear what David Yates and everyone has to say about that in upcoming interviews, because I think they're going to have a lot to say about that.

Caller: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: Any other stand-out scenes for you? Any complaints?

Caller: I just - I don't like how they reused the Voldemort scene. I thought that was a little tacky.

Andrew: I agree. I agree.

Matt: Yeah, it would have worked without it. I mean, they didn't need to have that scene in the trailer. It just didn't do anything.

Caller: Yeah. And then the wedding scene, it wasn't exactly how I pictured it, but it was still - I like the whole tent thing...

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: It was pretty nice.

Matt: Yeah. Where were they exactly? It looked like they were on some dried-out volcano because it looks like they were in Hawaii where the tent was. At least...

Caller: I know.

Matt: You know what I'm talking about?

Caller: And the Burrow is usually all weeds and stuff and then it was grass.

Matt: Yeah. Well...

Andrew: Well, I think that was the way it was in Half-Blood Prince, too.

Caller: Oh.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: I'm talking about that scene where it's obviously the trio's hiding place because it kind of zooms in. It's early on in the trailer and then you see all these black tar-ish kind of flooring. It must be near a cliff or something, but it looks like they're right near a dried-out volcano that was extinct or something.

Andrew: Mmm.

Caller: Yeah.

Matt: You know what I'm talking about? It just looks kind of weird.

Andrew: All right. Well, thank you for calling in, Roxanne.

Caller: You're welcome.

Andrew: All right, bye.

Caller: Bye.

Andrew: You have to hang up. For some reason I can't.

[Caller hangs up]

Andrew: Oh, thank you. Don't forget the number 1-218-206-2442. You can also Skype the username "MuggleCast" if you'd like to do that as well. Hello, Courtney! You're on MuggleCast Live.

Caller: Hello.

Andrew: Oh no. Hold on - hold on a second. Oh sorry, I lost her. Skype can be so weird sometimes.

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: I'm getting Micah back in here first.

Matt: You cut off Micah?

Andrew: Yeah, I cut him off. Sorry, Micah.

Micah: That's all right.

Andrew: Hello, caller. You're on MuggleCast Live. Pie-ly, is that how you...?

Caller: Hello?

Andrew: Hi. Pie-ly, is that how you pronounce your name?

Caller: I'm sorry?

Andrew: Pie-ly? Is that how you pronounce your name?

Caller: Yeah, that's Piely. [pronounced "Pilly"]

Andrew: Oh, Piely. Where are you calling from?

Caller: Yeah. Mexico.

Andrew: Oh. Well, thank you for calling in.

[Caller laughs]

Andrew: What do you think about the trailer?

Caller: Oh, I loved it. I loved it.

Andrew: What was your favorite part?

Caller: I loved the Seven Potters.

Andrew: Yes.

Matt: Oh yeah.

Caller: Yes. I like that I was able to tell apart everyone.

Andrew: Really? Could you tell us the order? We will challenge you right now...

[Caller laughs]

Andrew: Hold on. Let me bring it up on the - well, I don't know if you can see the live stream right now.

Caller: Ah, yeah.

Andrew: But okay. Here, I'm going to put it on the live stream. Left to right, let's hear them. Come on.

Caller: Fred, George - or I don't know, George, Fred.

Andrew: Right. [laughs]

[Caller laughs]

Caller: Mundungus.

Andrew: Oh, yeah. Okay.

Andrew and

Caller: Fleur.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: Ron and Hermione.

Andrew: Very good!

[Andrew, Matt, and Caller laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, I guess Fred and George were the giveaways on the left because they're wearing the same thing.

Caller: Yeah.

Andrew: Just a slightly different color.

Matt: Well, yeah. They also look at each other in that kind of mischievous smile.

Andrew: Oh yeah. And Hermione's looking very worried on the right.

[Andrew and Caller laugh]

Andrew: I didn't notice this the first time, but if you look at the Ron/Harry, so to speak, his mouth is open a little bit like, "Duh!"

Matt: And his shoulders are pushed back.

Andrew: Yeah. Oh yeah, Dan did a really good job with that, getting those down. And actually in an interview with him that I did with a couple other fan sites a few weeks ago, he talks about that kind of thing. And hopefully the transcript from that will be up as soon as W.B. lets us release it. But yeah, so Dan Radcliffe did a really good job of getting everyone down.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: You can see...

Caller: Yeah, it was amazing.

Andrew: You can see the look of disgust on Mundungus' face.

Matt: No, he looks just so uptight and worried. You couldn't pull a needle out of his butt with a tractor.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: Yeah, his face was kind of a giveaway.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly.

[Andrew and Caller laugh]

Andrew: You're right.

Caller: Oh. Also I was going to say that you were talking about the scene where Lupin was like attacking Harry.

Andrew: Yeah.

Caller: I think it was when Harry gets to the Burrow and Lupin is trying to see if he's the real Harry.

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right.

[Andrew and Caller laugh]

Caller: It might be that.

Andrew: Yeah. We have it up on UStream now. Yeah. No, I think you're right. Well listen, thank you for calling in.

Caller: Thank you for answering my call.

Andrew: No problem. And have a nice night there in Mexico.

Caller: Thank you. You too.

Andrew: Bye.

Caller: Bye.

Andrew: How many more callers should we...

Matt: I don't know. Like thirty?

Andrew: Thirty? I'm afraid we don't have time for thirty, but here's another one. Hello, Vicky!

Caller: Hi! How's it going?

Andrew: Hi! Good! How are you?

Caller: Sorry, I'm just going to mute my stream for a second.

Andrew: Okay. I called Piely back accidentally.

Caller: There we go. That's better.

Andrew: So what did you like for the trailer? Hi, Piely. You're back.

Caller: Oh, hi!

Andrew: Sorry. I accidentally called you. You can hang on the call if you want. [laughs] Or you can go. It's up to you.

Caller: [laughs] I'm going to go.

Andrew: Okay. Thanks.

Caller: Bye.

Andrew: [laughs] Bye. I don't get it. Skype is so buggy. Anyway, Vicky, what did you think of the trailer?

Caller: I thought it was good. I actually liked the tomb.

Andrew: Liked the two what?

Caller: The tombstone.

Andrew: Oh, the tomb!

Matt: The tomb.

Caller: Yeah.

Andrew: Now why do you like it? That's not how it's described in the book, is it?

Caller: Well, it's described as a very simple, marble, white...

Andrew: Rectangular.

Caller: Yeah. It was just really described as something very simple. And white marble, so I don't know. I don't think Dumbledore would want something very complicated and elaborate.

Andrew: I guess. I just think he deserves it, but...

Caller: Yeah, but I know in the book it was described as very simple and just a marble, white kind of tomb.

Andrew: Okay. I still think it's out of the game Jenga. Have you ever played Jenga?

Caller: It does look like a Jenga block.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: I agree. [laughs]

Andrew: Maybe this is new marketing for Harry Potter Jenga.

Caller: Oh.

Andrew: Or Dumbledore tomb Jenga.

Caller: I can see that happening. But also, I was going to comment on the fact that Harry wasn't disguised at the wedding.

Andrew: Oh, yeah.

Caller: He was supposed to be Barney. [laughs]

Andrew: Oh right.

Matt: Yeah. He's supposed to be the cousin.

Caller: But I almost think it's better that he's not Barney at the wedding. I think in a cinematic - it looks better on film.

Matt: It would have taken too much time though to explain why he has to change and everything.

Caller: I also didn't like how he was disguised in the book either. I just - I don't know.

Andrew: I think it's - and it's also just easier to understand. So that you don't get confused.

Caller: I think they'll have a lot more - I mean they can do more between Harry and Ginny during that as well if he's actually Harry.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: And it's not going to be the first time they do that in this film especially since we see the scene with Harry and Hermione who aren't changed at Godric's Hollow. And they are supposed to be transformed into different people and they aren't in this film, so I guess just for the sake of explaining it and getting any confusion made, they're just going to have the actual actors.

Caller: Yeah. I figure it'll just look a lot better on film as well to have them.

Matt: It'll just keep the pace going, too.

Caller: Yeah. Although it would be funny to see him as a fat ginger, but...

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: All right. Well, thank you for calling in, Vicky.

Caller: Yeah. Thanks a lot for taking the call.

Andrew: No problem. Where are you calling from, by the way?

Caller: I'm actually from Canada, in a small town in Ontario.

Andrew: [sings] "O Canada!" All right. Well, have a good evening there in Canada.

Caller: All right, you too. Bye guys.

Andrew: All right, bye bye.

Matt: Bye.

Andrew: There's Vicky.

Matt: Where's Micah? Is he back?

Andrew: Yeah, Micah's back.

Micah: I'm here.

Matt: Okay, sorry.

Micah: You just left me on hold last time.

Andrew: Yeah, Skype is acting very strange, so I may have to deal with more strangeness from that, Micah. So please bear with me.

Micah: It's all right.

Andrew: Let's take another caller now. Hello, Angeline!

Caller: It's Angie.

Andrew: Angie! You're on MuggleCast Live. Welcome.

Caller: Hi! Thank you.

Andrew: What do you think of the trailer?

Caller: I liked it, but I can't remember if the part with the Lovegood's house is in the second part or the first part. So I'm kind of upset that if that part is from the second movie, or from the second part of the book, that they included it when it's supposed to be in the first part.

Andrew: Mmm.

Matt: I think it is in the first part.

Caller: Okay, then I like the trailer a lot. Either way I like it, it's just that one part.

[Andrew laughs]

Caller: I couldn't remember, so I was like, uh... [laughs]

Matt: No, that is in the first part, because they discuss the Deathly Hallows - the story of the brothers.

Caller: But he goes there, I thought, after they leave Shell Cottage, and then - I don't know. But I think...

Matt: No, they go to Gringotts after the cottage. Because Hermione transforms into Bellatrix at Shell Cottage.

Caller: Okay, that makes sense. And then, the scene where Bellatrix looks like she has a whip, I think that's her wand and she's trying to do that spell, the binding spell. Like where in Order of the Phoenix you see Umbridge binding the centaur. I think it's that same spell.

Micah: So who would she be doing it on? Hermione?

Caller: Probably. Or to anyone, if it's after Ron and Harry break out of the cellar with Dobby's help. She could be just trying to get hold of anyone since she's already summoned Voldemort.

Matt: Hmm.

Andrew: Well, good theory. Good theory. Hopefully we'll find out. Well, thank you for calling in, Angie.

Caller: No problem.

Andrew: Where are you calling from?

Caller: Chicago, Illinois.

Andrew: Oh, represent. Okay, have a good night there.

Caller: Thanks.

Andrew: Bye.

[Matt imitates Skype sounds]

Andrew: I had to disable the Skype sounds.

Matt: Awww!

Andrew: And we're going to give...

Skype Lady: Please enjoy the music while your party...

Matt: "Party is reached." Oh, we don't even know what song they were going to play!

Andrew: Here, we'll hear it again.

Skype Lady: Please enjoy the music while your party is reached.

[Classical music plays]

Matt: Ohhh!

[Echo of what was just said is heard from caller]

Andrew: Hello?

Eric: Hello?

Andrew: Eric! [laughs] What do you mean - you of all people should know to mute your stream before you pick up the call!

Eric: Uh, I'm...

Andrew: So Eric, welcome to the show here.

Eric: Hey guys, how's it going?

Andrew: Hey, what are you doing?

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