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Andrew: Because we're about to interrupt your regularly scheduled Saturday morning programming - that was by Micah, not me - this is MuggleCast Episode 216, for December 11, 2010.

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Andrew: Good morning everybody. Hello Jamie and Micah!

Jamie: Hey!

Andrew: Hey, hey, hey!

Micah: Yo, yo!

Jamie: Hey, it's not morning!

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: It's not morning, it's afternoon. It's almost dark here. How can it be morning there? That's ridiculous.

Andrew: I know, we are worldwide. This is morning for me. If you're listening to us on the West Coast this morning, I can feel your pain. But we thank everyone for getting up and listening.

Jamie: Wait, what time is it?

Andrew: Well, it's 8:00 AM. I mean, it's not that early. [laughs]

Jamie: Awww, I don't know.

Micah: Jamie would have been working for an hour by now if he was there.

Jamie: Yeah!

Micah: He gets to work at 8:00 AM, don't you, Jamie?

Jamie: No, no, no, I don't.

Micah: Oh.

Jamie: No, I was trying to make out there that I was some type of really hard worker and stuff, but no, I get there at 9! [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: That's what - most people do go to work at 9:00 AM.

Jamie: Yeah, but don't you get to school at, like, 7:30 or something? And then you finish at...

Andrew: Yeah, when I was in high school! [laughs]

[Matt laughs]

Jamie: That is obscene.

Andrew: I'm in college now.

Jamie: What's wrong with you people over there?

Andrew: One time...

Jamie: That's...

Andrew: ...I dragged Jamie to school with me. He was doing our morning show.

Jamie: [laughs] Oh yeah, that was fun.

Andrew: Yeah, it was! And I think it was a live show, so I think we had to be out the door at 5:00 AM [laughs] and you were in the worst mood.

Jamie: Oh, I remember that, I remember that. Oh, that was - Andrew, I did enjoy that, and I understand why you want to take part in your school programme and that, [laughs] but I wouldn't get up at 5:00 AM...

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: go and do that!

Andrew: I know.

Jamie: I would just record it and send it on CD.

Andrew: I know. [laughs] And send in a CD. Well, we like to do it live and that's why we're doing it live today. Eric - hey Eric.

Jamie: Hey Eric.

Eric: Hey guys.

Andrew: You hopped on a minute late...

Matt: Hey.

Andrew: ...otherwise I would have said hello to you at the beginning.

Eric: That's okay.

Andrew: Well, we have a great show for everyone today, it's our annual Year in Review show. This is the third time we're doing a sort of award show and just the second year that we're doing this really fun format. If you guys remember last year, we had a variety of categories and we had you guys vote on them live as we're recording to determine the winners. And we have pretty much the same categories as last year, and there are some good stories and categories. For example, Most Shocking News Story, this is going to be one of my favorites this year, I think.

Eric: So, it's the MuggleCasties!

Andrew: The MuggleCasties!

Eric: It's the annual MuggleCasties.

Andrew: Third Annual MuggleCasties. That name is so long, but...

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: ...whatever. Anyway, first before we do that, Micah Tannenbaum is in the MuggleCast news center. He's going to update us on the latest stories. What's going on in Harry Potter this Saturday morning, Micah?

News:Deathly Hallows: Part 1 Video Game Reviews

Micah: The Deathly Hallows video game - Part 1 video game was released in the middle of November and surprisingly it was met with negative reviews. And I actually went out, I bought the game, I've played it a little bit, probably too much in fact, and I have to agree. I was optimistic a couple of shows ago about how this game was going to turn out because we had Nick on, and Nick said he had gone to EA and he had experienced the game, and he had a lot of good things to say about it. And the initial reviews before the game was released about the graphics and things like that were pretty positive, and - just the gameplay, that's what it comes down to every time. The gameplay is just terrible and...

Jamie: What does that mean?

Andrew: Yeah, what does that mean for us...

Jamie: [laugh] What does "gameplay" actually mean?

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: Well...

Jamie: It's a jargon word...

[Matt laughs]

Jamie: ...but I don't understand what it means. [laugh]

Micah: Just going from scene to scene - or, I guess, level to level - and just the things that you are tasked with, the things that you have to do. And I know they have to try and come up with innovative ways [laugh] for the game to be different, but - for example, which makes absolutely no sense, you have to put on the Invisibility Cloak once you Apparate to London away from the wedding, and go and test different people to see if they are Death Eaters or not. But you bump into somebody and the Invisibility Cloak falls off, and then you have to go back and do it again. So - but it's...

Andrew: Ooh, but that makes it challenging!

Jamie: Well, that's realism! Yeah, yeah!

[Eric laughs]

Jamie: Micah...

Eric: It sounds like I want this game.

Jamie: Yeah!

[Matt laughs]

Micah: No, you don't want this game. You don't want this game.

Andrew: It sounds like Micah is just fed up...

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: ...because he's not a good wizard, so...

Jamie: I know, it sounds like he's having trouble!

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: Yeah, he's still on that same level. He hasn't even passed it yet.

Jamie: He can't beat a child's game? [laugh]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Micah, don't let your own incapabilities get in the way of reviewing the game.

Eric: Or giving us the news, geez.

Micah: Well, I will say I'm not the only one that has reviewed this game [laughs] in a negative light, so...

Andrew: You're right. You're right. Lots of video game sites - they review video games as they always do, and they've always been harsh on Harry Potter and this one was no different. And just...

Micah: Do you know which one was reviewed positively? It was the LEGO Harry Potter video game.

Andrew: Yes.

Matt: That game was awesome!

Andrew: Well, it was...

Eric: You know what? I'm still on Book 1 with that one - with that game. I don't know that I love it. I'm just going to say that.

Matt: You're still on...

Eric: I think the...

Matt: What do you mean you're still on...

Eric: Yeah. I love and I played all the LEGO games, but I haven't advanced past the first out of - it's Years 1 through 4, and I'm still on the first year in the LEGO game.

Andrew: So, Eric...

Eric: I mean, I have - yeah.

Andrew: ...according to this Google Doc, it says you have an idea for a successful Potter video game?

Eric: Yeah. They really hyped this Game 7 up - DH Part 1 game - to be this amazing game because it wasn't structured in Hogwarts. And I don't think that that's - just like the movie wasn't in Hogwarts, it kind of felt odd. It was off. There was something off about it. I think they need a free-roaming Hogwarts game. I'm surprised that they haven't done it by now.

Jamie: Like "Grand Theft Hogwarts?"

[Everyone laughs]

Eric: Yeah, pretty much. But from Years 1 through 7, you start off and you can be in any of the houses, and it would create a ton of content because you would be just going to classes, everything from events - it doesn't even have to really have anything to do with Harry Potter other than the namesake, "Harry Potter: A Hogwarts Journey." And you would just basically meet all sorts of interesting people - the ghosts, the characters - and it could be done really well. I feel like...

Jamie: That's not...

Eric: ...when they're trying to combine - cram it all into a game or create these game scenarios where there ordinarily wouldn't be game scenarios. That's where the stress comes in and maybe EA would do better to kind of think outside the box, but inside the castle.

Micah: Well, the problem, though, is that I think they have the agreement with the movies. So, so much of what you see on the film is being translated to the video game and I don't think that always works out very well. And actually the video game did something that the movie didn't when they find Dean and Griphook wandering around, and you have to follow them kind of through all these forests scenes and that wasn't in the movie but it was in the book. So, they do include some things from the book but I just think - if you thought the forest scenes dragged in the movie, wait until you play the video game. [laughs]

Matt: Is there dancing?

Eric: It's ten levels.

Matt: Micah, is there a...

Eric: No checkpoints.

Matt: ...dancing level with Hermione?

Andrew: Ooh, like a Dance Dance Revolution?

Micah: I haven't gotten that far.

Jamie: I hope not.

[Everyone laughs]

Matt: He's still on Tottenham Court Road.

Jamie: Yeah!

Micah: But the other thing, though, is this: there is not enough. The fact that they split this game, like the movie, into two parts, they have you do all these side tasks that don't kind of flow with the game very well.

Andrew: Uh huh.

Micah: So all of a sudden you'll be moving from one scene to the next as if you were watching the movie and you're sort of taken on this detour of having to fight Death Eaters or creatures or whatever in these different areas that never existed, and it just - the game doesn't flow very well in that sense, but...

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Jamie: Andrew, do you know what you should do as a game?

Andrew: Hmm.

Jamie: You should - [laughs] because your name is "Sims" you should get your entire family in one house, and then have people tweet in and tell you what they want you to do. [laughs]

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Like the video game The Sims, yes. [laughs]

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah, that would be so cool!

Andrew: I can't tell you how many people - when people find out my last name, the first thing out of their mouths almost always is, "Oh, like the video game?" and I'm, like, "Yes, like the video game." And as a joke I'm, like, "I invented it," and half the time people are, like, "Really?" I'm like, "No."

[Jamie laughs]

Micah: Because clearly you didn't come before the video game.

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah.

Matt: Right.

Andrew: One day when people hear the name "Sims" they will think of me and not the video game.

Eric: And not the video game, yeah.

Andrew: It's like The Seacrest. Nobody would think of the video game, they would think of Ryan Seacrest.

Micah: So, when they go to the store to buy the game, they will say, "Oh! I wonder if this is modeled after Andrew Sims."

Andrew: Right.

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah.

Micah: Is that what you're saying?

[Matt laughs]

Andrew: Anyway...

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: And his life.

Andrew: ...what else is going on...

Jamie: The world over.

Andrew: the news?

News: Deathly Hallows: Part 1 Box Office Results

Micah: Well, Deathly Hallows: Part 1 grossed so far $713.3 million worldwide. As far as I know it sold top in the box office internationally. It struggled a bit domestically in its third week, falling to Tangled. And I'm not sure it will do much better this week with The Chronicles of Narnia movie that is coming out. But that's a lot of money in a very short period of time. I'm sure it will work its way up into the top ten in the next couple of weeks. But...

Movie Discussion: Jamie's Review

Andrew: Jamie, this is the first time you've been on since the movie came out. What do you think of it?

Jamie: Yeah, I was just about to ask you if you guys have reviewed it yet. I assume you have. Well, I started writing a review that I want to finish but I haven't really gotten around to it yet. Yeah, I thought it was excellent, really. There are a couple of things that I just - that really annoyed me to the point that I thought, well, if you're going to put that in there then I don't see how you can call yourselves filmmakers. Like...

Eric: [laughs] What?!

Jamie: No, no, no, honestly. When Snape first appeared at the...

Jamie and

Matt: Malfoy Manor.

Jamie: Yeah, and he walks in and Voldemort says, "We've saved you a seat," and I thought, "Aww!"

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: That's such a terrible line after what he says in the book and it's just brilliant when he says, "You are very nearly late," and that's such a great line. And then when Arthur Weasley arrives at The Burrow and he just strolls up all causally, and there is a good chance that one of his children has died. And tell me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Mad-Eye say, "Go to the Burrows," with an 'S' instead of "The Burrow?"

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: And I thought, well, how can you get that wrong?

Andrew: I don't know about that last one. I think maybe Voldemort saying, "We've saved you a seat," it fed into the - I got the impression that Voldemort was quirkier in this film. He was a bit more crazier and I think that sort of fit into it. Because he was sort of sarcastic, wasn't he?

Jamie: Well...

Andrew: "We saved you a seat."

Eric: Well, he bullies the rest of the Death Eaters so it makes it seem like - it just emphasizes that Dumbledore - Voldemort still trusts Snape and that the events of the previous films, although limited and edited, omitted even...

Jamie: I guess, I guess. It just - oh, I don't know. I just don't think it worked. But the rest of the film was brilliant, apart from the dancing scene, obviously.

Andrew: You didn't like that?

Eric: Didn't like the...

Jamie: No.

Andrew: Why not?

Jamie: It was ridiculous. [laughs] It was so cheesy.

Andrew: You didn't like the song, "Oh Children," Nick Cave?

["Oh Children" by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds plays]

Jamie: Well, not really. Why? Am I supposed to? Is it supposed to have meaning? Or...

Eric: Well, David Yates likes it, so you're supposed to.

Matt: Yeah.

Jamie: Oh right, oh right. Well, in which case I love it. But no...

[Matt laughs]

Jamie: It was - I don't know. The entire film was great.

[Song finishes]

Jamie: The stabbing of the...

Eric: Elf?

Matt: Of the Dobby?

Jamie: No, no, no - [laughs] of the Dobby.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: No, the stabbing of the locket was amazing. I really liked that. That was really interestingly done. But yeah - no, no, Dobby. I thought when she threw the dagger, and then it went through and she just gave a look that was perfect, just like, "I've got one over on you." Oh, it's brilliant. Yeah, such a good scene.

Andrew: So overall, where does it rank in terms of the films?

Jamie: Oh, first I think, definitely.

Andrew: Really? Hmm.

Jamie: Oh yeah, definitely. It was easily the best. It just sort of flowed from beginning to end well and it took itself more seriously. I know that's like a stock phrase of film reviews, but it seems to be true.

Andrew: Especially for Harry Potter. "This one is the darkest yet."

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Matt: This one is the darkest...

Jamie: The darkest...

Matt: can't even see anything.

Jamie: [laughs] Yeah!

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Well, you can't in the copy that I downloaded. But I didn't do that, [laughs] so...

[Andrew laughs]

News: Deathly Hallows: Part 1 Box Office Results (Cont.)

Micah: So, I did take a look, though, over on Box Office Mojo and the film is currently at number 40, all time. And...

Andrew: Oh, that's not very...

Micah: ...I'm sure it will creep its way up. Well, no - I mean, it will pass a lot, probably, with this weekend.

Andrew: You think so? I mean, it's already been out for almost a month now.

Eric: Yeah, and it's got Tangled. And the new Narnia movie, isn't that out?

Andrew: Yeah, it's coming out this...

Matt: Yeah...

Andrew: Or yeah, it came out...

Matt: came out - yeah, it's out already.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah, but I mean...

Eric: And I have to go see it.

Micah: Probably the films in front of it - I didn't look, but - I mean, you're talking probably about a couple of million dollars either way. So, it will move past those films easily. I mean, I think pretty much with the exception of Prisoner of Azkaban, all the Harry Potter films are in the top 25. So...

Jamie: Why was Prisoner of Azkaban not there then?

Micah: I don't know.

Andrew: Nobody likes Alfonso.

Micah: It didn't make the cut.

Jamie: It bombed then. [unintelligible]

News: Deathly Hallows: Part 1 DVD Release Date

Andrew: Micah, I am dying to see this movie again but I don't want to go to the movie theater. When can I expect to see it on DVD?

Micah: March 18th.

Andrew: Oh.

Eric: What? I must have missed that. Is that new?

Andrew: That's new. Like, three big stories all came out last night. [laughs]

Eric: [laughs] I checked MuggleNet last afternoon.

Micah: Andrew had trouble with one of them.

Andrew: Yes, I did. Warner Bros. Switzerland apparently told that the DVD is coming out March 18th, 2011. That's not a Tuesday, so I think in the U.S. it will either come out on March 15th or the 22nd which I think if you remember - if I remember correctly that's typically when November DVDs come out, so I think that's just the right period of time.

Matt: Yeah, I think you're right about it. I think it being the 15th is correct because the U.S. gets a lot of the DVDs earlier than the European ones.

Andrew: Because we are better than you.

Matt: No, it's just better to... [laughs]

Eric: Although I don't...

Micah: Don't say that, we have people listening. They finally can...

Eric: There's...

Micah: ...listen in the U.K. and you're saying that?

Andrew: I'm just going to...

Jamie: Yeah, you're going to alienate everyone now. [laughs]

Andrew: That's why I'm up early. We're up early for you guys in England.

Eric: That's true.

Andrew: So, yeah.

Micah: Well, while you're talking about this, Andrew, you spoke to David Yates at the premiere. What kind of deleted scenes can we expect on the DVD?

Andrew: [laughs] You think I remember? I can't remember what he said.

Eric: Look it up, you wrote it down...

Andrew: I was...

Eric: 2,000 words.

Andrew: No, I didn't. No, it was on video. Watch my premiere footage to hear what David Yates says.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I honestly forget. That was such a whirlwind. [laughs] I was - it was nuts.

Eric: You fail, Sims.

Andrew: I'm sure it's some good stuff. Anyway, what else is going on in the news?

News: Kelly Macdonald Cast As The Grey Lady

Micah: A little bit of casting news. Kelly Macdonald - Andrew, who you seem to know a bit about some of the other things that she's done. She's going to play the Grey Lady in Part 2.

Andrew: Yes.

Micah: And I'm sure we'll be getting some small bits of casting news in the next couple of weeks. I don't think we have the full cast yet but we do have a casting page over on in the Movie 7 section. Shameless plug but...

Andrew: Kelly Macdonald is hot right now. She's in the hit show Boardwalk Empire on HBO and she's so great in the show, so this is really exciting news for everyone who has been watching Boardwalk Empire this season who is also a Harry Potter fan.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: It hasn't been cancelled, has it?

Andrew: No, it was renewed after the second episode. They...

Eric: I thought so.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: But this interview with Kelly Macdonald says, "I hear that now that Boardwalk is done, you're working on this," so I guess it just means filming...

Andrew: I think...

Matt: Well, filming the first season.

Eric: Yeah, yeah. Right, right, right.

Matt: She looks good though.

Andrew: Oh, and her voice.

Matt: She really plays it.

Andrew: Her voice. If you watch her, you will - this screams Grey Lady, seriously.

[Eric laughs]

Matt: She screams the color grey.

Andrew: No, she has a very soft-spoken voice. She's very pleasant to listen to. She has an air about her. It's just really nice.

Eric: Yeah, that scene with Harry and the Grey Lady in the book, in Book 7, is just so interesting because Grey Lady is kind of distant - obviously, she's a ghost.

Matt: Mhm.

Eric: She just withholds things back and doesn't tell the full story. She has to be coerced and I think that that will give something - Kelly something.

Matt: Have they announced the casting for the Bloody Baron?

Andrew: No.

Matt: So...

Eric: Oh, wouldn't it be cool if they did backstory...

Matt: Yeah, I was just thinking that.

Eric: ...with young Grey Lady?

Matt: If she tells the story. All that blood and everything after he kills her.

Andrew: But by the way...

Eric: Plus they have the costume at the exhibit, the Bloody Baron costume. It's amazing and I would hate to think it went through the whole series of movies with only, like, five seconds of screen time.

Andrew: By the way - what was I going to say? I just had a Bob-fail. [laugh]

[Eric and Matt laugh]

Andrew: Oh, I remember now. Dan Radcliffe - we interviewed Dan Radcliffe, this phone interview, fan site interview, about a month before Part 1 came out. And somebody asked him if the Grey Lady had been cast and he wasn't allowed to say, but he had some very, very nice things to say about the actress. He said he was very happy - he was just blown away that she was going to be signed on, so now he was probably talking about Kelly MacDonald. So, hopefully we'll get to hear more about her from him soon. Anyway, what else is going on in the news?

News: Deathly Hallows: Part 1's Chances In Academy Awards

Micah: Final bit of news for Deathly Hallows: Part 1. It's gaining a little bit of steam in terms of Oscar talk. The L.A. Times has written up a couple of articles considering its release in November and the fact that it hasn't won a single Academy Award for the series as a whole. And...

Matt: That's just ridiculous.

Micah: of the things - Andrew, you posted yesterday - was that it is one of the fifteen visual effects semi-finalists...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...for the upcoming Oscar Awards but - or Academy Awards.

Andrew: Which is good news, but it's - there's only been fifteen films that really had good visual effects this year, [laughs] so I don't know if this means that it has a good shot. I think it's been short-listed before, hasn't it?

Micah: Yeah. No, it's definitely been up...

Andrew: Harry Potter?

Micah: ...for Academy Awards. There's no question. And I think John Williams has been up for...

Matt: Yes! And he hasn't won a single time.

Micah: Yeah. So, it's going to be interesting.

Jamie: Yeah, but he's won enough other ones, hasn't he?

Micah: I know we were going to try and...

Matt: Oh, well - yeah, a couple.

Andrew: We're going to try what?

Micah: I think we were going to try and center a discussion around this for the next episode, but just kind of overall, do you think that this film as opposed to any others before it deserves an award more, or is it just getting to that point where - look, this is going to be the highest grossing franchise of all time. They should get something. I mean, [laughs] how are they going to go make eight films and not win any awards?

Andrew: I don't think it should get an Oscar, though, just for that reason.

Matt: Yes.

Andrew: I mean, maybe for "Best Picture" but not - I don't think it should get a "Visual Effects" Oscar just for - sort of a sympathy, "Oh, look at you. You guys, highest grossing franchise of all time." And if you look at the competitors, Tron: Legacy - I mean, I think that's going to - that's very visual effects heavy, so I think that's going to be a hard one to beat. Inception - all of these are very visual effects heavy.

Jamie: Oh, Inception, yeah.

Andrew: Harry Potter - this film - I mean, [laughs] Dobby and Kreacher looked great, the Harry and Hermione Horcrux scene looked great, Voldemort looked great. But are they really blow-your-mind visual effects...

Matt: Okay - well, no.

Andrew: ...that are worthy of an Oscar?

Matt: No, no, no, I don't think blowing-your-mind qualifies as having an Oscar. I think special effects - if you are - if it's believable in front of the camera, that you actually believe that it's part of the film, that it's actual reality, then I think that deserves an Oscar. And I think a lot of this stuff that you see in Deathly Hallows is mostly CG that you don't even realize it is because it's just so well done.

Eric: I disagree. There's a lot of acting in the film as well that would support an Oscar.

Matt: Well, there's a lot of acting and there's a lot of cinematography and all that crap, but I'm talking about as special effects go - like of course, Dobby - the house-elves are obviously CG but the spellwork between them - I think the chase scene where - the Snatcher scene in the forest with all the spells going back and forth. I mean, that's great CG.

Andrew: [laughs] No, it's not!

Matt: Yes, it is!

Eric: It's actually not - it's not CG, though. It's really not.

Matt: You don't think so?

Eric: This movie was not near as reliable on CG as prior Harry Potter films.

Jamie: I think - yeah, I agree, Eric. A lot of it was clever filmmaking and I'm not saying that it wasn't sort of - it didn't use CG but it was used...

Eric: Like - yeah.

Jamie: a clever way, like with the Snatcher just seeing Hermione and just going around, and it's...

Eric: Yeah.

Jamie: Subtle CGI can also win Oscars, I think, if it's done in the best way.

Eric: Very much so. I'd like to see a soundtrack Oscar for this film because...

Matt: A soundtrack one?

Eric: Maybe I just haven't noticed it - yeah, other Oscars, but...

Matt: Oh, for the score?

Eric: Yeah, for the score.

Matt: Oh, okay.

Micah: Well, will it be short listed for "Best Picture?" Have they announced that yet, or is that still going to...

Andrew: I don't think so.

Micah: released sometime in the future?

Andrew: I say let's...

Eric: No, it will be Black Swan and all those movies that haven't been released yet to the rest of the world.

Andrew: Let's save all our hope and energy for Part 2 getting "Best Picture." I feel like that really could be a contender for "Best Picture." This one - again, I don't know, was it a "Best Picture?" Were the scenes when they are on mountaintops, was that - does that make it a "Best Picture?" I mean...

Eric: Just because you don't get the film doesn't mean the Academy won't.

Matt: Yeah, thank you, Eric.

Andrew: I get the film.

[Jamie and Micah laugh]

Andrew: I just think you guys are relying too much on a sympathy vote.

Matt: Sympathy vote?

Eric: Wow.

Jamie: I don't know if that's the right word...

Micah: Well, don't you think...

Jamie: ...but I think you could be right.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Micah: Well, wasn't this the case, Jamie and Matt, with Lord of the Rings where the first two films didn't really get any...

Matt: Get anything, no.

Micah: ...Oscar consideration and then...

Jamie: Yeah.

Micah: ...Return of the King got everything?

Matt: Yeah. And in my opinion, I didn't think The Return of the King, the one that won eleven Academy Awards, was the best of the trilogy.

Jamie: It was just long and epic.

Matt: It was long and epic, and it had all these fight sequences. I thought that, in a way, that they gave all eleven as a sympathy vote for not giving any of the other films Academy Awards.

Jamie: Maybe, yeah.

Eric: No, they don't...

Jamie: But do they do that?

Eric: They aren't even human!

Jamie: They're quite hard, aren't they?

Eric: They aren't even human!

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Eric: They don't have a sympathy vote.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: What? They're not even...

Andrew: The filmmakers are!

Eric: The Academy!

Matt: Oh, the Academy.

Jamie: The Academy, yeah.

Eric: The Academy!

Matt: I thought you were talking about - well, no because - of course it's not. It's a fantasy film. None of them are human.

Best MuggleCast Moment of the Year: Episode 190

Andrew: All right. Well, that's all for news. Before we get to our big Year in Review: The Third Annual MuggleCasties, all throughout the show today we're going to be looking back at some of the best MuggleCast moments of the year. This first one was from Episode 190. It was our "Helping Haiti Heal" special. It was when a few Harry Potter podcasts - MuggleCast, PotterCast, Harry Potter Alliance's podcast, Hogwarts Radio. I think one or two others, too, Fiction Alley - all got together to do one giant podcast and we each took turns doing, like, a half hour, and this is a moment from our portion. It was - Micah told me I could pick any moment from this one, so naturally to inflate my ego this Saturday morning, I picked something that I did this episode.

Matt: Of course.

Andrew: So, let's go back in time and listen. [makes time-traveling noises]

[Episode 190 clip plays]

Andrew: Thank you. That's exactly what I was going for. Okay, I did one more because I wanted to double check my work...

[Matt laughs]

Andrew: ...and I decided to - this second scene is where Ron rejoins Harry and Hermione after running away. You guys remember this from Book 7, right?

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: Yes.

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: Now, this may be a little controversial, but I had to do it. I mixed it in with his score from "The Meadow"...

[Matt gasps]

Andrew: ...which can be heard in the film 'New Moon'. Don't judge it yet. Take a listen. I really think this works.

["The Meadow" plays]

Eric: I'm judging, Andrew.

Jamie: I'm judging.


"'You come back after weeks - weeks - and you think it's all going to be all right if you just say sorry?' 'Well, what else can I say?' Ron shouted, and Harry was glad that Ron was fighting back. 'Oh, I don't know!' yelled Hermione with awful sarcasm. 'Rack your brains, Ron, that should only take a couple of seconds!' 'Hermione,' injected Harry, who considered this a low blow, 'he just saved my - ' 'I don't care!' she screamed. 'I don't care what he's done! Weeks and weeks, we could've been dead for all he knew.' 'I knew you weren't dead,' bellowed Ron drowning her voice for the first time and approaching as close as he could with the shield charm between them. 'Harry's all over the 'Prophet' and all over the radio, they're looking for you everywhere, all these rumors and mental stories. I knew I'd hear straight off if you were dead.'"

[Clip ends]

Andrew: [makes time-traveling noises] So, that was...

Jamie: That was quite cool, actually. I don't think I've heard that before. [laughs]

Andrew: You were on that show! [laughs]

Jamie: Oh, really?

Andrew: Yeah.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Oh. Well, I've forgotten that. I was quite pleased with that.

Micah: Maybe we should put you up for an Academy Award.

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Andrew: No, that was when we had learned that Alexandre Desplat was going to do Part 1, so I took...

Jamie: Sorry, who? Who? [laughs]

Andrew: Alexandre Desplat was going to compose Part 1. He was going to be the composer for Part 1.

Jamie: Are you sure that's his name, Andrew?

Andrew: Alexandre Desplat! Yes, I know it for a fact. Come on, [laughs] how do you think it's pronounced?

Jamie: Well, I can't remember, but I don't think it's that.

Andrew: It is Desplat. I a hundred percent know that for sure.

Jamie: But Andrew, he's not American. Not everyone in this world is American.

[Everyone laughs]

Third Annual MuggleCasties: Most Interesting Potter Star on Twitter

Andrew: That has nothing to do with it! It's Desplat. Desplat. Anyway, he was signed on to do Part 1 and I took some of his previous scores, including that from The Twilight Saga: New Moon, go put them together with part of Harry Potter. So anyway, now it's time for the Year in Review: The Third Annual MuggleCasties awards. As everybody remembers, last year we took live - we did a live poll in numerous categories to help determine what were the biggest stories, the biggest winners of the year. And we're going to do that same exact thing this year. This year, I'm happy to say, it's easier than ever for the 533 people listening live right now. A poll is just going to show up right over the top of the video screen, so it's - you can't miss it. It's going to be very easy to vote. Our first category is "Most Interesting Potter Star on Twitter." Now, I think these are the same contenders from last year. [laughs]

Matt: Yeah, this is last year's one.

Andrew: But we're looking at who was the most interesting this year. First person was Tom Felton, second person is Emma Watson, third person is Warwick Davis, fourth person is Matthew Lewis - and Micah, we're also giving an honorable mention to J.K. Rowling. Can you explain that, please, while I get the poll ready?

Micah: Well, I thought we should just mention her.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: I mean, even though she's used Twitter probably about as much as she has updated her site in the last year or so.

Matt: Ooh.

Micah: [laughs] So, I'd just like to give a little nod, that's all. Nothing more.

Andrew: Yeah. All right, so we're starting the poll now, people can now vote and we will get the music going to progress this.

["Jeopardy" countdown plays]

Andrew: Here we go. The results are...

Micah: Can we vote?

Andrew: Yes, feel free to vote if - well, I prefer you not because then you'd have to bring up the stream. But Tom Felton seems to be taking...

Micah: I already have the stream up.

Andrew: Oh. [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Tom Felton seems to be taking an early lead with 56% of the vote.

Micah: I'm going to give Warwick Davis a vote since he was on the show.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: I have to say, I think I'm agreeing with most of the listeners. Tom Felton was very active this year on Twitter. He's always re-tweeting people.

[Music ends]

Andrew: And that's it. With 56% of the vote, the winner is...

[Drum roll plays]

Andrew: ...Tom Felton!

[Trumpet sound plays]

Eric: Whoo!

Andrew: [poorly imitating Tom Felton] "I'd like to thank everybody for..." [normal voice] Jamie, could you do a Tom Felton impression? I can't.

[Matt laughs]

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: I think Jamie walked out.

Eric: Don't worry about it.

Matt: It sounds like...

Eric: We would have to do a...

Matt: [laughs] Your Tom Felton impression sounds like John Lennon.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Between the two of us we would have to do a Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell impression interrupting him accepting this award.

Andrew: Hey, people on Twitter - or people listening to us live - can you please at reply Tom Felton and let him know [laughs] that he just won a MuggleCastie?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] See if we can get him to comment. No, but seriously, at reply him. Let him know he won a MuggleCast award for "Most Interesting Potter star on Twitter." Okay, so...

Micah: I hope he doesn't expect us to send it to him.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: Oh, geez. [laughs]

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