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More Pottermore Discussion


Andrew: Mhm. All right. Well, we're going to talk a little more about the movie in a bit, but first we wanted to update everybody on Pottermore. Our last episode was all about Pottermore. We were live - streaming live on Ustream as it happened. It was 4:00 AM on the West Coast. It was 7:00 AM on the East Coast. It was a good time had by all, I thought. We had quite a few listeners, thanks to everybody who tuned in live. We had, I think, close to 4,500 people listening live at one point which was great.

Micah: It was over five at one point.

Andrew: We didn't expect that at all because it was just so early in the United States. But that was great. So after our podcast, JK Rowling did hold a surprise press conference about Pottermore, and she released - she gave a few more specific details about it. For one, we know now that Pottermore - when it opens to the public in October, it will have 18,000 new words from JK Rowling. That's about, I think, a quarter of Sorcerer's Stone. So you're getting an extra 25 percent of Sorcerer's Stone through new information that JK Rowling has been hoarding, like she said. And also, new information she wrote up just for Pottermore which is awesome, I think.

Micah: Right. And she also said that that 18,000 is only one-third of what she plans to write for Pottermore.

Eric: I'm just overwhelmed. I'm completely overwhelmed. This is going to be totally awesome.

Andrew: And the first book comes out in October on Pottermore, and then there's six more books that are going to be released! So Pottermore will continue to be updated throughout the next few years. I mean, I would say this is going to be happening through 2013, 2014.

Eric: It'll be something nice to look forward to where - I mean we'll - not like we'll go our own separate ways, but every couple of months we'll just have this new content to really pore through and it'll be like a new book to read from our favorite author, only it's the old books but with new fun facts and all those histories. It's a really great way to experience Potter. I'm really happy with everything I've heard about Pottermore.

Matt: I have a question about Pottermore, actually, and I don't know if you guys answered this, but is Pottermore going to be purely Flash?

Andrew: [laughs] Yes.

Matt: Because I don't - because I want to use it on my iPad.

Andrew: I'm sorry, it will not be accessible on your iPad, but never say never, in the words of Justin Bieber, so...

Matt: Or Steve Jobs.

Eric: Are you saying JK Rowling launched a war against Mac? Against Apple?

Andrew: No, you can use it with Apple...

Eric: JK Rowling versus Apple?

Andrew: ...just not iPad.

Eric: Oh.

Matt: We all know she's a Windows user anyways.

Andrew: Because iPad does not have Flash. And for a site that's as intense as Pottermore in terms of the experience, I think they thought Flash would be the best choice.

Eric: Do we have any more details about that Sony partnership to create the new technology that they're using? Because it's cutting edge, right, isn't it?

Andrew: It is - well no, I don't think there's anything really cutting edge about it. I think Sony is the partner that's going to help distribute the e-books primarily. I think that's their main purpose.

Eric: Oh okay. Cool.

Micah: Here's what it says...

Andrew: Some other things...

Micah: Oh, I was going to read what it said on the website.

Andrew: Sure.

Micah: It says:

"As a leading company in entertainment and electronics including games and digital books, Sony is proud to partner with JK Rowling to create this interactive story-telling experience. Sony's philosophy of 'make.believe' is woven throughout the Pottermore journey, where users are inspired to believe that anything they can imagine, they can make real. Through Pottermore, Sony will be able to reach both current and future generations of 'Harry Potter' fans, and introduce them to products and services beyond their imagination."

Matt: Anything we can imagine, we can make real.

Micah: Sony can make real.

Matt: Wow.

Andrew: They're magical.

Matt: I have a list for Sony.

[Eric and Micah laugh]

Andrew: Here are a couple of other things from the Pottermore press conference. So we learned a little more about how Pottermore works. You will follow the story chapter-by-chapter, get sorted into a house...

Micah: Where did they get that idea?

Andrew: [laughs] Get sorted into a house, get a wand. One of 33,000 possibilities for a wand, which is cool. And also, I'm very happy about being able to be sorted and get a wand, because I feel like this is finally - finally everybody will get sorted into a house in an official manner because JK Rowling developed this sorting process herself, so you know you will be getting sorted the way Jo thought, the way you truly would be sorted if you were a character in the books.

Matt: Yeah, thank God, because I'm tired of all these other ones online asking these stupid questions...

Eric: Matt, do you feel snaky?

Matt: ...like, "What's your favorite character?" or, "If you found a dollar..."

[Micah laughs]

Matt: "...on the street would you use it for personal gain, would you be brave and turn it in..."

Micah: Right.

Matt: "...or would you want to read the bill?" I mean, it's stuff like that.

Andrew: Actually I think the Sorting Hat process is going to have questions like that.

Micah: It is, but JK Rowling made it.

Matt: I'm saying like completely obvious what the outcome would be.

Micah: Yeah, she said you're not going to be able to trick the system.

Eric: Cool.

Andrew: And you won't be able to go back either, unless you create an entirely new account. So once you're sorted into a house, you cannot change it for that account.

Matt: [laughs] That's awesome.

Andrew: I know personally, if I get sorted into Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw, I'll be disappointed, but at the same time I'll be like, "Oh whatever, Jo says so, so okay."

[Eric laughs]

Matt: You'll be Slytherin, Andrew.

Eric: Yeah, it's kind of the definitive sorting there.

Andrew: Here's something interesting: Jo did not rule out the possibility of a physical encyclopedia down the road, which I thought was interesting because I thought Pottermore was the encyclopedia, really. I thought this was the way she wanted to do the encyclopedia, but apparently not, so that's good news.

Matt: Thank God.

Micah: Yeah, and I think it also gives her the opportunity to donate the proceeds to charity, which is something that she had talked about from the very beginning. I think she mentioned that in the interview or the press conference when she spoke that that was going to be a project that was solely going to be for charity.

Andrew: JK Rowling downloaded e-books for the first time this year and loved it. "A thousand books in your pocket," she said, which is nice but I have a hard time believing for some reason that Jo - I don't know, I have a hard time watching Jo use a Sony e-reader.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Like picturing that in my head. But hey, I'm sure she had to try it out to try the Harry Potter reading experience.

Micah: So she got a free copy, or ten copies, or a hundred copies?

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, I don't know.

Eric: Here's the thing, do you think that they'll do adult versions for the e-books as well? Or will everybody get the wonderful, wonderful pictures and letters and illustrations like the American editions? Do you think Jo prefers the American editions? Do you think she doesn't prefer the American editions?

Andrew: Well, most e-books do not have pictures, so I don't think you're going to be seeing chapter pictures like you did in the US editions.

Eric: Mmm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Really? Most e-books don't have pictures?

Andrew: No.

Eric: That's boring.

Andrew: They could if they wanted to, but - I mean, I've never downloaded a picture e-book.

Eric: Yeah. Interesting.

Andrew: And that's pretty much it. She said that one of the new pieces of content you'll be getting is a lot more on McGonagall, specifically her backstory. Her childhood, Ministry career, and early heartbreak. So we're going to be learning about the love that McGonagall had experienced - her love life. And also...

Matt: [laughs] Ewww!

Andrew: Well, I mean, we're not going to be experiencing her - never mind.

Eric: The 116-year-old virgin!

Matt: In Flash form.

Andrew: We're also going to learn more about how Vernon and Petunia met at work.

Eric: Ooh!

Andrew: And that backstory will be on Pottermore.

Matt: That will be interesting.

Andrew: So interesting stuff like that that's kind of a companion to what you're reading. So I would assume Chapter 1, when you see the Dursleys, maybe that's when Jo will insert that new content. And by the way, when you are going chapter-by-chapter through the book on Pottermore, you're not reading the book. I mean you could sit there and read it if you want it, but the book isn't there. What you're going to be reading, I believe, is a summary of sorts and then if there's new information, it'll be included there as well as those illustrations that we've been seeing.

Matt: Mhm.

Andrew: Stuff like that.

Matt: I really hope that once the seventh book gets released there'll be an extra epilogue encyclopedia where you can branch out and see what happens to the characters later.

Micah: Yeah, that would be cool.

Eric: Yeah.

Matt: Like I want to know what happens when Hermione meets her family again.

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Well so do I, but that's like three years away. [laughs]

Matt: Well, we all - we as Harry Potter fans have learnt to be patient waiting for stuff.

Eric: That's true, man. That's very true.

Andrew: So those are the latest Pottermore updates. Again, a Beta will be opening at the end of this month. July 31st is when a Beta will be opening. They will be giving out one million invites, so I think all people listening to MuggleNet and MuggleCast, you'll know exactly when the Beta opens up so I think you'll be able to easily become one of the first million.

Micah: JK Rowling is such a tease, isn't she?

Andrew: Yeah, it's been a long drawn-out process, hasn't it?

Micah: Yeah, she...

Eric: Would we have it any other way?

Matt: No.

Andrew: No.

Matt: This is what we expect from her.

Eric: As fans.

[Eric and Micah laugh]

Micah: Yeah, but what I want to know is, are you going to have to unlock things? You know, when you're talking about backstory on McGonagall or Petunia and Vernon, is that stuff...

Eric: I sure hope so. Or I sure don't hope so.

Micah: ...you're going to have to work hard to reveal, or is it just going to be like, "Hey! Click here!"?

Andrew: I hope not.

Matt: No, I hope not. I'll lose interest by the time it happens.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, I'm not going to go on another freaking scavenger hunt across the whole World Wide Web just to find out how Vernon and Petunia met, okay?

Andrew: Well yeah, I mean, you won't have to go outside of Pottermore, I don't think.

[Eric sighs]

Andrew: But maybe - I don't know how it's going to work.

Eric: Click three times on the Christmas tree and the green lights, and then an elf appears, and the elf...

Andrew: Well actually, I think during the demo that they did at the press conference you had to click on a boot and it kind of just unlocked something.

Eric: Oh no, not again!

Andrew: [laughs] But it's not like a brick pattern at least, so...

Eric: Not again!



Deathly Hallows - Part 2 Box Office Predictions


Andrew: Okay. So again, that's the Pottermore stuff. We will be keeping everybody updated on Pottermore as we learn more information about it, so keep checking MuggleNet.com for all the information you need. Back to the movie release. I wanted to talk about box-office predictions. It seems to be coming more and more clear that Part 2 will probably take the record for top Harry Potter film out of all eight.

Micah: Opening weekend or overall?

Andrew: I would say everything.

Eric: Is the first one still in the running for that? Where does the first film stand? I feel like the first film was more successful than some of the sequels, right?

Micah: The first film has made $974.7 million. It's the number nine movie of all time.

Matt: Point seven.

Eric: Yeah, so where does that...

Micah: That's number one. Deathly Hallows - Part 1 is number eleven.

Eric: Oh, so...

Andrew: With $954.5 million, so it's not far off.

Eric: Essentially the last film - no, the last film is going to have to surpass the first film.

Andrew: I think so, too.

Micah: It will. The thing you have to remember with Part 1 is they lost a lot of money not making it 3D.

Eric: Oh, you mean Part 1?

Andrew: Oh, that's true, too.

Eric: Oh, are we - I'm talking about Sorcerer's Stone, not DH Part 1.

Micah: Right, but I'm saying Part 1 would probably be higher in the top ten, not outside the top ten if they had made it in 3D.

Eric: Oh, higher ticket sales. Right, for the 3D.

Micah: Right. Sorcerer's Stone is number nine all time.

Andrew: I think people - like people who aren't fans, maybe who even haven't seen a Harry Potter movie before, they're just going to want to see how it ends. So I think they're going to go to the theater just to see what happens, how they wrap up this ginormous franchise, because they've been hearing about it for ten years.

Eric: It's very true. There's never been a better time, especially with Pottermore just around the corner. By "just around the corner" I mean a couple of months from now. There's never been a better time to go to a theater and...

Micah: Yeah. I think we talked about this a little bit on another show, but from what I remember there's nothing opening that weekend that's going to really compete with it at all.

Andrew: Oh no, nothing can ever really compete with Potter. There is Winnie the Pooh, that's coming out the same weekend.

Matt: [laughs] Yeah.

Micah: Yeah, I don't think so.

Eric: What?

Matt: Not the smartest idea.

Andrew: It looks really good, to be honest with you.

Matt: No, I - no, it does look really cute.

Eric: That's coming out already?

Andrew and

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: Wow. That's one of those - you just don't see posters for that, or maybe you do and I missed every single one of them. But there are those films that are like sneaker films where they just show up, like the new movie with Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman that's coming out. You know, standees happen in theaters like two weeks before the actual movie. It just comes out of nowhere, completely out of the blue. No idea. Winnie the Pooh, you'd think they would have had trailers for and teasers for months and months and months and months ago, right?

Matt: Well no, they did. I think the trailer was released a good - a while ago.

Andrew: It was released a while ago.

Eric: Oh.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: That probably is just me then. I need to start setting Apple as my homepage.

Matt: Well, there's only been one trailer. There's been one trailer and one poster.

Andrew: So is everyone in agreement that Part 2 is going to be the top Harry Potter film of all time? When everything is said and done? Not just opening weekend, just overall.

Matt: I think...

Eric: Like box office wise?

Andrew: Yes.

Matt: I think so.

Eric: I'm skeptical. If none of the other Potter films have surpassed the first one, then Deathly Hallows has - I mean, obviously with the 3D ticket sales, then it's more likely.

Micah: I would be surprised if it didn't. I mean, I would think that it's going to move its way into the top five of all time.

Andrew: The thing to account for is inflation. I mean, Sorcerer's Stone came out when movie tickets were what, probably eight or nine dollars? [laughs] Maybe...

Eric: Six-fifty.

Andrew: Six-fifty, you think? Do you still have yours?

Eric: I think I still have my first stub.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh wow.

Eric: And matinees were five dollars.

Matt: Well, I think most people really just go by the ticket sales more than they go by money, because of that, especially. Especially the 3D thing.

Andrew: No, but I mean we're looking at Box Office Mojo and whatnot, and they go by money and...

Matt: Well, of course they go by money.

Andrew: ...Sorcerer's Stone is number one.

Matt: Right, okay. But I generally think it's more fair if they go by ticket sales.

Andrew: They should. Oh no, I agree. But I think - actually, I think ticket sales wise, I think Sorcerer's Stone probably is huge, not even comparable to Part 1 in terms of money.

Matt: Oh yeah.

Andrew: Or in terms of ticket sales.

Matt: No, I'm not saying I'm trying to go in favor of the latest films at all, I'm just saying - I don't know, you can't really compare with box office money, especially with movies that have been released decades ago either. I mean, it just doesn't make sense that people like to judge it by that.

Micah: Okay. But just real quick - I mean, looking at all these other movies, do you think it's going to eclipse the one billion mark? I mean, do you think it has a shot, to go into the top five, let's say? We think it's going to make it to the top ten, right?

Matt: Mhm. Well, if you judge it just by the books itself, I think that Part 2, I guess you could say, is the one that has the most potential to do that.

Micah: Yup. No, I agree. And Part 1 was in the top ten, I think, until Pirates of the Caribbean knocked it out.

Eric: Ugh!

Micah: The newer one, On Stranger Tides.

Eric: Oh, really?

Matt: That's sad.

Eric: That movie has done that well?

Micah: Yup.

Eric: I'm a little surprised.

Micah: $987 million.

Eric: It really wasn't a bad movie, but not like the third one.

Matt: Yeah, it was...

Eric: But I don't know. I'm surprised it did that well, to be honest.

Matt: I'm surprised I lasted that long in the theater.



Favorites: Harry Potter Film, Pre-Part 2


Andrew: Okay, so a Favorites segment before we wrap up today. I want to know everybody's favorite Harry Potter film before seeing Part 2, and then at the review show we will decide if our favorites still stay intact or if Part 2 is truly our favorite film. Matt, your favorite film of the seven?

Matt: What, you just threw this on me! Okay.

Eric: Well, it was in the schedule since we started.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: Well, I knew about it a total of thirty minutes before we started.

Eric: Was it not enough time? Do you want us to come back to you?

Matt: No, no, I'll say it. No, my favorite film is still Prisoner of Azkaban.

Andrew: Eric?

Eric: Part 1, Deathly Hallows - Part 1.

Andrew: Micah?

Micah: Sorcerer's Stone.

Andrew: Ooh. Yeah, I think I like Sorcerer's Stone, too, I think. There was just so much magic in it. But I think ñ does everybody think Part 2 is going to be their favorite? [laughs]

Matt: You know what? I don't know. I think Part 2 - I'm still saying Book 7. [laughs] I mean Movie 7.

Andrew: Part 1?

Matt: I still think Part 1 and 2 are the same film, so...

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: ...I can't...

Andrew: That's true. I think I may end up saying Part 1 and Part 2 is my favorite film.

Matt: Yeah.

Eric: Right.

Matt: I think that will be the general consensus with everybody.



Announcement: LeakyCon 2011


Andrew: Okay. Well, our next episode will be MuggleCast Live in Orlando to review the film. Everybody going to LeakyCon - if you're listening to this and you're going to LeakyCon, we can't wait to see you there. We will be doing our podcast on Friday. Check the schedule Friday, it's on the main stage. It's actually just following a new Pottermore preview that's going to be happening, so we will definitely talk about what was discussed at the Pottermore preview as well.

Micah: So it's what, at 4 o'clock I think we're on?

Andrew: Yeah, I think we're on at 4:00 and the Pottermore preview is at 3:00.

Eric: 3:00 to 3:50, yeah.

Andrew: Okay. Yeah, so it's on just before.

Eric: So right on the heels. Yeah. The other thing, won't there be a Leaky Mug on Thursday? So before - so that's actually the next time...

Andrew: Yes.

Eric: ...you can hear us, is a Leaky Mug.

Andrew: Yeah, I don't know if we're going to release it online in time though, before...

Eric: Okay.

Andrew: Yeah. But...

Micah: That's at 3:00 if people are looking to go.

Andrew: On Thursday. So Thursday at 3:00 is the Leaky Mug, Friday at 4:00 is the MuggleCast and that's the MuggleCast big review show. Of course it will be online. Probably later that night we will get it online because we know everybody will want to be checking out our review, and we're going to be getting thoughts from people in the audience as well. We'll complain, we'll cry, we'll celebrate, we'll cheer, we'll jeer...

Matt: You'll drink.

Andrew: No.

Matt: Oh, sorry.

Andrew: No.

Matt: Sorry.

Andrew: Won't be doing that. [laughs] And a lot more.

Micah: Speak for yourself.

Andrew: What other... [laughs]

Matt: [laughs] I am speaking for myself.



Show Close


Andrew: Eric brought up on Twitter the other day the "Don't Let It Be July" song that I made. It was my second wizard rock single...

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: ...that I made for the Book 7 release but it stands true for July 2011 as well, so we're going to play that today to wrap up the show. I hope everybody - we hope everybody enjoys the movie. Please sit back, relax, don't worry about things that aren't going to be included and whatnot. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy it.

Micah: Andrew Sims, Season 2 of The Voice. Here we go.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: On NBC! Thanks everyone for listening! I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: And I'm Matt Britton.

Eric: Movie 8!

Andrew: We'll see you next time for Episode 234. It's all come down to this.

Micah: From Orlando.

Andrew: Goodbye everybody! From Orlando.

Matt: Enjoy the movie!

Eric: Yes, enjoy!



Andrew's Second Wizard Rock Single


Andrew: [clears his throat] Your attention, please.

[Music from *NSYNC's "Bye Bye Bye" plays]

Andrew: This message goes out to a Ms. JK Rowling.

[begins to rap]

Don't let it be July.

Mmmmmmmmm no.

Not July, not July, not July, don't let it be July. Here we go.

We are hearing this tonight
You're probably gonna start a fight
I know this can't be right
Hey Rowling, come on!

I loved you endlessly
When the books were spread out freely
So now it's time to hear
Some of your most loyal fans

Background vocals: I know that I can...

Andrew: Wait a little more, it ain't no lie
I wanna see you delay that book
Don't let it be July

Don't wanna be a fool for you
Just another book in your series for clues
You may hate me, but it ain't no lie
Don't let it be July
Don't really wanna make it tough
I just wanna tell you that I've not had enough
It might sound crazy, but it ain't no lie
Don't let it be July

All right, don't get it yet?
All right, let's break it down.

This may be reminiscent of my MuggleCast rap
Was my number one single, now don't forget
Listen up, Jo, baby come on
I want this book a little later
And so does each and every fan
That believes the book will be

Background vocals: Better

Andrew: Once you've got more time

Background vocals: I know that I can't take no more
It ain't no lie
I wanna see you...

Andrew: Delay that book, don't let it be July

Don't wanna be a fool for you
Just another book in your series for clues
You may hate me, but it ain't no lie
Don't let it be July
Don't really wanna make it tough
I just wanna tell you that I've not had enough
It might sound crazy, but it ain't no lie
Don't let it be July

Ugh, you know what? Forget it!

I'm giving up, I know for sure
I don't want to be the reason for next year no more
I'm checking out, I'm signing off
The fandom will be over and I've had enough

Jo, I - I don't want to be a fool
In this series for clues
So you know what?
I'm leaving you, Jo, behind

Background vocals: I don't wanna make it tough

Andrew: Don't wanna make it tough, please

Background vocals: But I've had enough

Andrew: Jo, please. Jo

Background vocals: And it ain't no lie

Andrew: Not July

Background vocals: Don't wanna be a fool for you
Just another player in your game for two

Andrew: Book 7, please
July 2008, July 2008!

Background vocals: Bye bye bye bye bye

Andrew: Don't really wanna make it tough
I just wanna tell you that I've not had enough
Might sound crazy, but it ain't no lie

Background vocals: Bye bye bye

Andrew: Don't let it be July

[Music ends]


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