MuggleCast 238 Transcript



Show Intro


["Hedwig's Theme" plays]

Andrew: Because I'm reasonably supple, this is MuggleCast Episode 238 for August 27th, 2011.

[Show music begins]

Andrew: Welcome to MuggleCast Episode 238! Micah, Eric, and I here this week to bring you the latest Harry Potter news, even though, oh, it's been over a month since the last film was out. But that's okay, there's still plenty of news to talk about related to the film actually and also, of course, Pottermore and...

Micah: What's Pottermore?

Andrew: [laughs] I guess you wouldn't know, would you?

Micah: [laughs] No, I have no idea. I haven't gained access to it yet.

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Yeah, me neither.

Andrew: And so we're going to have the news, and then lots of e-mails to catch up on and some fun segments as well, so it's going to be a fun show. But first the news. Micah, what's in the news?

Micah: You were talking...

Andrew: Micah.

Micah: What?

Andrew: [laughs] Nothing.

[Micah laughs]

Eric: Do we not intro ourselves anymore?

Micah: Oh yeah.

Andrew: Mmm.

Micah: Oh.

Andrew: I always forget that. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: What's in the news, Micah?



News: Deathly Hallows: Part 2 Box Office Update


Micah: You mentioned before the movie has been out now for a little bit over a month, the last film in the Harry Potter series, but Deathly Hallows: Part 2 still continues to do relatively well at the box office, I mean, it's been out for over a month, so it's expected that it's going to drop off a bit. But it just passed the $900 million mark internationally. It's the third film ever to do that, following Avatar and Titanic, which it currently sits behind on the worldwide all time grossing list. I don't think it has any chance of moving past either of those two films, unless somewhere down the line Deathly Hallows: Part 2 is re-released. But what do you guys think about that? I mean, I think we talked a little bit about it on the last show - or maybe we didn't because it's been a bit since we did a show. The movie moving to number three all time, all the awards that it's - sorry, not awards, not yet anyway, but records that it's broken.

Andrew: Well, it's not - it hasn't surprised me really, this whole box office success, and I'm happy for it and it's a great way to go out. It would have been quite embarrassing if it wasn't the top film and if it wasn't breaking...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...all these records, so...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...I'm happy with how it went.

Micah: Right. And, of course, it's the top grossing U.S. movie of 2011. I don't think that's any surprise. If it's the number three movie all time, it better be the top movie of 2011.

Andrew: Mhm.



News: Pottermore Beta Update


Micah: Next up, Pottermore. Andrew, I have no idea what this is.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: I have not received [laughs] access to it yet. Maybe I sound a bit bitter about that, if I do I apologize because I'm sure I'll get e-mails. But as is stated here, twenty-five thousand students...

Andrew: Yeah, it's kind of odd. So, I mean, we all went through the Magical Quill process to make sure we're one of the lucky one million to get into Pottermore, and they opened up Pottermore I guess - I don't know, about two weeks ago now? Maybe - it was a little - it's at least a week it's been open. And so far, they've only let in twenty-five thousand of the one million.

Micah: Oh, okay.

Andrew: And the reason I know that is because I was one of those lucky people, and if you go into the Great Hall, it has a tally of the number of students that have been - that are enrolled, so to speak. But I think the other thing to keep in mind is that this is twenty-five thousand people who have been sorted, meaning they've made their way to the Sorting Hat Chapter. And another thing to keep in mind is that I guarantee you, out of this million, there are a boat-load of people who have gotten an e-mail so far and just haven't registered. And I know you must be thinking, "Oh my God, how could they do such a thing?" but some people aren't as hardcore, they may have just done the Magical Quill process and gotten in by luck. So, that's why I'm guessing they've tried to reach out to maybe closer to forty or fifty thousand at this point, but so far only twenty-five thousand have made it to the Sorting Hat Chapter and been sorted.

Eric: So, once you get sorted, you're given the common room, right? And that's your local place to chill?

Andrew: Yeah, yeah.

Eric: So, what happens before you get to that chapter? How - is it just boring looking, or...

Andrew: No...

Eric: Okay.

Andrew: Well, you don't get your house colors on the top banner part, but you go through all the Moments leading up to the Sorting Hat, and it's good. I'm not finished with it yet, I want to wait until I'm finished because it is - from everything I've read, it takes only about four hours to get though the whole thing because it's basically just a lot of clicking.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: And...

Micah: Well, you're experiencing the book all over again, right? You're getting backstory that otherwise you wouldn't get if you just opened up Sorcerer's Stone and read it for fun.

Andrew: Right. The standout here, I think, is absolutely the new content that J.K. Rowling has added to it because there is a lot. And we've mentioned a couple of them that J.K. Rowling has teased leading up to this opening of it. McGonagall backstory, there's a lot there. More on Aunt Petunia and Uncle Vernon. What else?

Micah: I saw some stuff on Quirrell, Professor Quirrell.

Andrew: Yeah, Quirrell. Yeah. Quirrell, ghost plots.

Eric: Ooh.

Andrew: There's rules on wizards wearing wizarding clothing out in Muggle public, history on that, and why they do and do not do it. Backstory on Ollivander, Hogwarts Express, how that was created. So, a lot of stuff, and it's very true to the spirit of the books. It's what you would expect to find in say, a Harry Potter encyclopedia. It's very Jo, it's very - it's just very good, and I'm impressed with it so far. The problem is they're not opening up the Pottermore Betas quick enough. I would expect at least a hundred thousand people [laugh] would have been in this by now.

Micah: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask, is they state that you can get in between now and the end of September. And I would think that if you're somebody who has to wait that long, you're probably going to get pretty frustrated with this whole process and say, "Well, if I'm not going to get in until the last week of September, I might as well just have waited until October."

Andrew: Exactly. But I think at the rate it's going, unless they make some moves quick soon, I don't think - I don't know if this is going to open up in time.

Eric: Hmm.

Andrew: I mean, I could see this being - the opening happening October 31st, an hour before the day ends.

Eric: Yeah, they've only said October, right?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: So, I just always imagined it would open up on Halloween.

Micah: Yeah. I mean, that would be a good tie-in to the series, but Andrew, you got the puzzle solved on day one. How have you - is it just that the people who got in on day one? Is that how it's working? I mean, how are they figuring out - are they staggering it by when you got in, or is it just...

Andrew: No.

Micah: ...random?

Andrew: It's random. Yeah, it is random. I mean, yeah, I did get my account the first day Beta invites were available and no, I did not get it the first day. It took a few days - it took over a week, I think, so - and like I said, it's only - maybe at this point let's say forty thousand, fifty thousand e-mails have gone out. That's not a lot out of the one million.

Micah: Well - I mean, my point was, are there people from day three and day five that have gotten in?

Andrew: Yes, definitely.

Micah: Oh, okay.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, I haven't heard as many of them have gotten in. I think a lot of people were the first day, but then when I started seeing that other people had gotten in, I think that that was no longer the case. But at first I thought it was just the people who did the first day of the Magical Quill Challenge, but...

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: ...it's not the case. But yeah, still a ton of people left to go. But I thought what was interesting is that you wrote most of the students are Ravenclaws.

Andrew: [laughs] Yes, it's an interesting - it's good that they have these numbers in here because it makes it interesting. So, as everybody knows you do get sorted by a process that J.K. Rowling created herself, and if you do look in the Great Hall you see how many students are in each house and Ravenclaw leads the pack by about two thousand students right now which is interesting. And every other house is kind of neck and neck. Ravenclaw has around seven thousand and the other houses have around five thousand each. And speaking of Ravenclaw, one of the actresses in the Harry Potter films, Evanna Lynch, we all know she's a big fan of the series, she was on a recent episode of MuggleCast at LeakyCon. She got into Pottermore and was sorted, and she was sorted into Ravenclaw which shocked her. She took to Twitter in a panic...

Eric: Oh, you mean Gryffindor? She was sorted into Gryffindor.

Andrew: Oh right, sorry.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, she wanted Ravenclaw...

Eric: Well, Luna is a Ravenclaw.

Andrew: ...but she got into...

Eric: Luna who she plays.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: So...

Andrew: Yeah. So, she went onto Twitter and she kind of went on a rant. She sent out like six or seven tweets...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...saying - I'll quote them.

[poorly imitating Evanna Lynch] "Ahhhh umm errrrrr.... Just got sorted. Slight identity crisis. Need to sit down and process this...

"I'm in Gryffindor. #Pottermore #confusion #shock #pride #happiness #LUNADONTLEAVEME!!!"

[normal voice] So, [laughs] she was very upset that she got into Gryffindor. For a moment at least, I guess because she's always identified herself as a Ravenclaw, not to mention that she plays a Ravenclaw in the films.

Eric: Yeah. Or just with Luna, the fact that there's this connection. Many people agree that she plays a really good Luna and I think she's felt so close to that character, and now to be sorted into Gryffindor [laughs] it's a little off-putting, but...

Micah: Well, she wears that hat all the time, though.

Eric: Yeah, yeah, the lion hat.

Micah: The lion hat, right? I mean, conflict of interest...

Eric: Nothing wrong with Gryffindor.

Micah: Or identity crisis.

Eric: Identity crisis, yeah. But...

Andrew: One thing I'll say right now about Pottermore that's really been bugging me is that when you get friend requests, you don't know who they are...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...because you have - you're just getting - because it says, "UnicornKnight wants to be friends with you." And it's like, well, who's UnicornKnight?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: How am I supposed to figure this out?

Eric: And you can hook it up to Facebook, right? But...

Andrew: Yes, that's the one thing that does help, but an incoming friend request does not give you the name, I don't think.

Micah: Can they send a message saying, "Hi, this is so-and-so"...

Andrew: No.

Micah: ...with their request?

Andrew: No, no.

Micah: Oh, they should fix that. I mean, especially if you're trying to deal with any sort of problems with children signing up.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: That was the whole basis behind this, right, that...

Andrew: Exactly.

Micah: ...they didn't want children's names being put out there? They wanted to make the experience for all ages but if children are putting their names out there, it gets into legalities and things like that. But I can't imagine that they're not going to implement hopefully something when the site launches where you can send a message because otherwise it's such a hassle to go and figure out who all these people are. You've got to send messages, essentially, to all your friends.

Andrew: Yeah. The one thing that does help, like Eric mentioned, you can connect with Facebook, but that only works when you connect with Facebook, then you can see your friends who are on Pottermore. You get their real name and then what their Pottermore name is. You can't see that for incoming requests.

Eric: Right, so you don't know who anybody else is.

Andrew: Yeah. So, that's an issue. I mean, that's a serious issue...

Eric: Well...

Andrew: ...because - unless you and your real-life friends talk and say, "Hey, I'm..."

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: "...DreamMarauder64. I'm sending you a friend request." And you go, "Okay."

Eric: Well - so the Beta - the whole reason they are doing Beta, even to begin with, is to get feedback, right? Figure out how it works?

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: So, I heard from my friend who is on Pottermore that the feedback form on Pottermore is actually not open ended, that it's only a drop-down list.

Andrew: Exactly. It's actually really bad...

Eric: Oh, really?

Andrew: ...because - well, what happens is you go onto one page and you click the Beta feedback link, and then it asks you questions specifically about the page, but these are the same questions for every page on the site. So, like you said, you can't be like, "I don't like the Potions here, because XYZ." The questions are, "How much do you like this page?" and then you have the options: "It's great. I like it a lot," "It's good. I like it." "It's okay. I don't like or dislike it," [laughs] and then, "I don't like it very much." And then there are questions: "How much do you agree with the following statements? I like the way the page looks. Strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree." It's just all this generic stuff, and it's like, how is this helpful? [laughs] So, there is still a lot of work to be done here, but overall, it is really - again, like I said before, the great thing here is the content. It really is some interesting new material from J.K. Rowling that is very true to the spirit of the books and really, her old website. I mean, the clicking around and exploring, finding new secrets. I mean, that's very old-school JKRowling.com.

Micah: One question I would have about Pottermore would be - the people who are experiencing this in the Beta version right now - obviously changes are going to be made when the site officially launches, but is there going to be anything new and unique about the site launching in October that the Beta users aren't going to get right now?

Andrew: I don't think so. I mean, I don't know that for a fact, but I think everything here is pretty complete. I know people have been complaining about the Potions a lot. It's a very cumbersome process to brew a potion, it has to be very precise, it has to be in the perfect order...

Micah: Damn Snape.

Andrew: ...how you do everything...

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, so there may be some minor changes, but...

Eric: So, if people are getting through this in four hours, does that mean that ñ I mean, it's going to be three or four months between Book 1 and Book 2, right? Or is it closer to six months? Or ñ what's going to retain the most viewers?

Andrew: Well, yeah. I mean, that's an issue, too. It's like you go through Pottermore, and then what? Honestly, I think once I go through everything - I do all the features, I brew a potion or two, I duel with a friend or two - I'm going to be done until the next book comes out. I don't know what - in terms of replay value, as video gamers would call it, I don't think there's much here to be coming back for in five months, six months.

Eric: We'll have to see how it grows.

Micah: Can you backtrack? Can you go to things that you've already experienced...

Andrew: Yes, absolutely.

Micah: ...and re-read backstory, and things like that?

Andrew: Yeah. So, that's good.

Micah: And where were you sorted?

Andrew: I was sorted into Gryffindor, which was very exciting for me because I've always identified myself as a Gryffindor, so I did not have any shock like Evanna Lynch did, or [laughs] countless other people, I'm sure. I was actually very excited. I screamed out loud, "Yes!"

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: But to be honest with you, when I first got into Pottermore, I just wanted to get sorted. I just clicked through everything, I didn't even read the new material.

Eric: Right, you had to go through seven chapters right? [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, and I mean, it's kind of a lot because you have to go one by one, you can't just skip to it. You go one by one when you're first discovering everything, you can jump around as you please later.

Micah: Right.

Andrew: But at least in the beginning, you have to go in order.

Eric: Well, I think - the same as they do sorting, in future books, won't it be like, "What's your Patronus?" and "What's ó " wouldn't that be really cool...

Andrew: Yeah...

Eric: ...to figure out that kind of stuff?

Andrew: ...definitely. Yeah, Patronus, I guess that would be - in Prisoner of Azkaban, they would add that, right?

Eric: Right. But then that'd be really cool because on your homepage or whatever it is, you could have your house colors and your Patronus could be sitting on a book. That'd be really cool.

Andrew: That's actually a perfect idea, I see no reason why they wouldn't do that. That's another - that's like the next big question after, "What house are you?"

Eric: Right.

Andrew: The next question is always, "What's your Patronus?" Or - I mean, nobody really asks about your wand.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Nobody decides what your wand is. [laughs]

Eric: Oh, speaking of - how's the wand process? Because I remember at that Pottermore intro at LeakyCon, they said that there were thirty-three thousand combinations of wands.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: And you get Ollivander's backstory, which is great. Do you learn any more - a bit more about the wands?

Andrew: Yes, there's a lot on the wands, specifically the wand woods. There's a description - there's at least a paragraph for every one of them and there are a ton of wands. So, people will be happy with that. I'll tell you what my wand is, I only remember this because I took a picture of it.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: I'm looking at it right now. I am fir with dragon core, twelve and a half inches, reasonably supple.

Eric: "Supple" means bendy?

Andrew: Yes, I think. And it will cost me seven Galleons.

Eric: Oh.

Andrew: So...

Eric: Same as Harry's.

Andrew: Yeah. So, it's a cool experience. Now I'm looking forward to the Patronus.

Eric: Yeah. What's going to be Book 2?

Micah: Well, what are you looking forward to in Chamber of Secrets then? You can't just jump ahead one book.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: Well, I don't know. What features...

Eric: Ahhh, geez.

Andrew: What cool features could be in Chamber of Secrets? Riding the car? But this is a website, not a video game.

Eric: Well, maybe the potion is - you're going to have to eventually brew Polyjuice, that's why it's so complicated now, right?

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Because isn't that supposed to be this complicated, month-long endeavor?

Andrew: Yeah, could be. The latest house numbers for Pottermore: there are 27,747 students, 6,500 Gryffindors, 8,100 Ravenclaws, 6,500 Hufflepuffs, and 6,500 Slytherins. I rounded.

Micah: So, it seems it's getting closer...

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, I mean...

Micah: ...to evening itself out.

Andrew: Ravenclaw has a lead of about 1,500-ish.

Micah: I was going to ask though - obviously, Andrew, you already - you always considered yourself to be in Gryffindor. Eric, what about you? I mean, stating it on the show, I'm sure we've done it before. But before you actually get sorted...

Eric: You know, I'm...

Andrew: Yeah, claim it now.

Eric: Claim it now? [laughs] I'm a ó I don't know because I have those Harry Potter robes that are Gryffindor robes, but I've never really thought to really, really think about sorting myself, which is great. It's a great opportunity to do Pottermore because then I'm like, "Oh okay, I'm this house," but previously I never really identified with any house. I mean, I guess Gryffindor, right? But I just don't know. So, I'm actually looking to Pottermore to tell me what house I'm in. I don't really have an affiliation just yet in the books.

Andrew: Mhm.

Micah: I've always thought that I was in Ravenclaw, or I would be if I was sorted.

Eric: Yeah, I can see that.

Micah: So, it'll be interesting. I wouldn't mind Slytherin though either, to be honest with you.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: But I would shoot for Ravenclaw. I would tell the Sorting Hat [laughs] if I was in the book...

Andrew: Not Slytherin, not Slytherin. Not Raven ó or...

Eric: Well, apparently, the other thing about Pottermore is people can be Hatstalls, right?

Andrew: Yeah, that's another thing she introduces in the book...

Micah: What is this?

Andrew: ...where it takes - it's this phrase called a "Hatstall" where - no, sorry, she introduces this in Pottermore, where a Hatstall is when the Sorting Hat takes more than five minutes to sort you. And I don't know if this is related to the Hatstall, but some people who have gotten into Pottermore have been able to choose between two houses, so the Sorting Hat says, "I'm not sure which to put you in. Which would you like?"

Eric: Mhm.

Micah: Oh.

Eric: So, it's possibly - it's like a tie, essentially, with your sorting process.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: And I can't imagine it happens too...

Micah: So, you do have a say then, in that sense?

Andrew: In that case.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: But that seems to be rare.

Micah: That's cheating, isn't it, kind of?

Eric: Oh, no.

Andrew: It kind of is.

Eric: Well, you've essentially gotten to the point where maybe you're an even candidate, right? I mean, you could be - just like Harry Potter. You could be great in Slytherin, but you're also kind of brave.

Andrew: Well, we'll talk a lot more about Pottermore...

Eric: Yeah, once we actually get in. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, there's still a lot more to be said. But we will - probably I guess next episode, hopefully everybody will have been inside Pottermore. We'll find that out.

Eric: Hope so.

Andrew: What did - oh okay, we talked about that. All right, what else is going on in the news?



News: New Concept Art and Trailer for The Making of Harry Potter Studio Tour


Micah: Well, the other bit of news that we have is about The Making of Harry Potter studio tour, and some new concept art was released for it and you can find that on the website. But the big news was that tickets are going to go on sale October 13th. There was this event, I guess, called Empire Big Screen ñ is this a big event over in London? Is it an annual event?

Andrew: No, I think it's kind of new, actually. This may have been the first one, I may be wrong but it's not some epic event.

Micah: But Evanna Lynch was there, actually.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: She was part of this whole ñ was Warwick Davis there, too?

Andrew: Yes. Mhm.

Micah: So - and the guy who plays - what's the goblin's name who gets put under the Imperius Curse?

Eric: Oh. I just...

Micah: Bogrod?

Eric: Hmm, maybe.

Andrew: I think that character is played by Warwick's wife.

Eric: No kidding!

Micah: No, no. It's definitely a dude. [laughs]

Andrew: Oh. Well, I thought they said ñ I thought at the thing somebody said, "Oh, Warwick's wife is playing this goblin."

Micah: Maybe one of the others. But the one who gets the Imperius Curse - that actor was there as well, that was my point. So, there was this big revealing, I guess, or unveiling, that took place and they posted a trailer online as well. Actually, today, there was news that tickets, price-wise, are going to be about forty-six U.S. dollars.

Eric: No kidding!

Micah: To go to this tour which ñ I don't think it's that terrible, is it? I mean, I don't think it prices out a lot of people.

Eric: No, it's half the price of a sweatshirt that says, "Harry Potter: The Exhibition" at Harry Potter: The Exhibition. So...

Micah: [laughs] Yeah, I heard prices were crazy at the exhibition, by the way.

Eric: Well, so - yeah. I mean, the studio tour - now, you do have to get to London and then have to get out to...

Andrew: [laughs] Right, exactly.

Eric: [laughs] So, there is that, but I think...

Micah: Well, I'm sure there will be packages. I'm sure they're going to put stuff together for people which includes their fare, hotel, and such.

Eric: Yeah. But the tickets are so, I think, acceptably-priced. It's very heartwarming.

Andrew: The concept art looks great. It looks nothing like Leavesden is now...

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: ...which is reassuring. They're really putting a lot of work and money into this. So, that's really good, and if you see the concept art - I mean, it's a huge building. Two big buildings. And so you can just imagine the sets that are going to be put in here. I mean, the Great Hall, which is what they already promised, Gryffindor Common Room, and I'm sure some other big sets. I think there was mention of the Chamber of Secrets set or the Ministry of Magic set.

Eric: Ooh.

Andrew: And they usually tear a lot of these down after they're done using them just because there was only so much space in Leavesden, so they would often have to tear down a set and then reconstruct it.

Eric: Well, they learned that the hard way...

Micah: I always found that interesting, though.

Andrew: Isn't it? Yeah, all that work and then...

Micah: The reason why is because they have money.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: [laughs] Yeah. Well, and space. I mean, the cool thing is that when a movie - when you're working on something as expensive as this, just in case something goes wrong, they have all the measurements and all the specifications of all the sets, are there. And that's how they're able to, years down the line, rebuild Chamber of Secrets or even Ministry of Magic, which they had to completely rebuild because it was destroyed or scratched or ñ I forget what they call it ñ at the end of Order of the Phoenix. So, if they did ever need to come back, they do just rebuild it. But it's so cool that some of these sets are still there or are going to be there.

Andrew: The exceptions, of course, are the Great Hall, which has been there forever. Dumbledore's office has been there forever, I'm sure that's going to be there as well, and the Gryffindor Common Room. And like I mentioned, that also has been there forever. So, when you go onto these sets, when you visit this place, I mean, these are extremely iconic. Just all the time that was spent on these sets filming these scenes.

Eric: And the actors that have physically been there.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: And the other thing - didn't Dumbledore's office change at all, if it's been there the whole time?

Andrew: I don't think so.

Eric: I guess it hasn't really changed.

Andrew: No.

Eric: It looks different to me but maybe that's just...

Andrew: Well, maybe you're thinking of when they shoot on the upper level.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: You know how he has kind of those stairs that go up?

Eric: Mhm.

Andrew: Maybe that's what you're thinking.

Eric: Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. So cool.

Andrew: But yeah, so it looks good and it'll be really cool when it opens next year.

Micah: Yeah, absolutely. And last bit of news: Eric, did you want to talk about that?



News: The Woman in Black Teaser Trailer


Eric: Yeah, speaking of trailers, Dan Radcliffe's upcoming film, The Woman in Black, which is coming out next February, there was a teaser trailer released which is really, really cool. You guys should check that out. They released it, I guess, last week, and I was really happy because I was looking to post more news and this kind of ñ I happen to "Like" The Woman in Black on Facebook and they said, "Oh, in a couple of hours there's going to be a teaser trailer," so I was really excited waiting for it. And I waited for it and I posted it, and almost ñ some of the first comments ñ because I always read when I post news, it doesn't happen too often, so I sit, I wait for some comments to trickle in. And one of the first comments I got was, "This has nothing to do with Harry Potter." That's what somebody said. And I felt horrible, but I thought I'd ask you guys because I was thinking about this earlier today. You guys must have ñ I know you guys can relate, but...

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: [laughs] ...one of the first people said, "This has nothing to do with Harry Potter," and I was just ñ I was crestfallen, right? Because one of the visitors of the site who ñ they come expecting Harry Potter news and this is something about Dan Radcliffe, which I guess doesn't have anything to do with Harry Potter, right? I mean...

Andrew: I think because it is Dan Radcliffe, it deserves to go on the site, but there's going to come a point where you don't need to post the fiftieth Dan Radcliffe Woman in Black interview.

Eric: [laughs] Okay.

Andrew: We don't even post the fiftieth Deathly Hallows interview. It's just all the same, you know?

Micah: Well, to that point, though - I mean, all the Potter sites posted about when he was ñ or he still is ñ on Broadway in How to Succeed in Business, so it's the same thing.

Andrew: That's true.

Micah: You're covering the actor who has been the main star in the films over the course of their existence, so naturally you're going to post news about and follow him at least through the next few years of his career.

Eric: I thought so, but I did want to bring that up because I think moving forward when we get these informations on the other actors and their projects, it's just - I wondered if that kind of reaction was popular.

Micah: Well, I think people have a general interest though in let's say, what Dan Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint are going to do for the next few years and maybe some even beyond that. And there are sites that are out there that are strictly dedicated to them...

Eric: Right.

Micah: ...but they played such a large role in shaping Harry Potter on the movie side that I think it's only right that there are some stories about what they're doing in their careers. But normally when I post a news story the first comment that I see is, "First!"

Andrew: First.

Eric: Yeah, first.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: [laughs] Well, I think that - yeah, and we can go in and remove that, but then somebody else will just say, "First!" So... [laughs]

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: ...it's kind of...

Micah: But it was a really scary trailer...

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: ...[laughs] to be honest with you.

Eric: Yeah, it was.

Micah: It kind of creeped me out a bit.

Eric: It was. Well I guess that's the benefit of having friends and of having podcasts because we can call - you guys can defend me. But [laughs] I thought the trailer was really cool.

Andrew: So, that's it for the news this week. Now we're going to get into e-mails - and something I actually forgot to tease at the beginning of the show is, Micah, you did an interview with two more Potter stars!

Micah: Yeah, they're just...

Andrew: Tell us about it.

Micah: After everybody heard all these other interviews that we've been doing, now it's just non-stop.

Andrew: Everybody wants to talk to Micah.

Micah: Every - no. Well...

[Eric laughs]

Micah: What? No, but we got a chance to sit down and talk with Will Dunn and Arthur Bowen who play James Sirius and Albus Severus respectively in the Potter films - or not in the films, [laughs] in Deathly Hallows: Part 2, in the epilogue. And it was really a lot of fun getting a chance to talk with them, their experience with the Potter series. And kind of coming full circle a bit, playing the kids of the kids that we saw ten years ago.

Eric: Yeah, I've heard the interview and I think one of the coolest parts of it was Arthur Bowen, who said that they were filming the epilogue pretty much - or no, he was born about a week or two after filming began on the first Harry Potter film, or after Dan Radcliffe was first cast, I think he said. So, that was really odd in a really cool way.

Micah: Yeah, I think it was Will who was talking about how Ryan Turner, who plays Hugo Weasley, who is the youngest of their group, he was born just about the time that Dan and Emma were both cast in Sorcerer's Stone.

Eric: [laughs] That's so cool.



Muggle Mail: Essential Harry Potter Chapters


Andrew: Let's move on now to e-mails, but first we should mention that we will get back to Chapter-by-Chapter. This episode kind of snuck up on us so...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...we didn't have time to prepare it, but next time! Hopefully. Okay, first e-mail is actually from one of the MuggleNet staff members, Kat. She does the great "Fan of the Week" column on MuggleNet, and if you want to check that out, you can submit your own "Fan of the Week" profile and then it may be - you may be the Fan of the Week one time.

Eric: I'll tell you, that's how I got my start at MuggleNet, was being a Fan of the Week.

Andrew: Hmm, interesting.

Eric: So, it's - good things happen! [laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] So, Kat said:

"I ran into an old co-worker and a friend of mine at the grocery store tonight, and we started talking about 'Deathly Hallows: Part 2'. He's not a book reader but is an avid fan of the movies. He had quite a few questions and while filling him in, I told him that he should just read the books! He said there was no way he was reading the books, but he might read a chapter or two just to get to the integral parts. So, I was thinking it might be a good conversation to figure out what chapters everyone would suggest to a friend such as mine. Everyone has favorites, of course, but what's the most important? Would be..."

I don't know what she means there. Oh, you guys would have...

"...diverse opinions, I imagine. Just a thought! Looking forward to the show."

So, thank you, Kat for that suggestion. I think it's a good idea. So, if you were to suggest a chapter...

Eric: Like the...

Andrew: ...for somebody to read...

Eric: ...essential Harry Potter chapter for some...

Andrew: I think it would have to be in Sorcerer's Stone because otherwise you're going to need some context.

Eric: Well, but this person has seen the movies and hasn't read the books, so I think Kat's question - isn't it about if you've only seen the movies and aren't planning on reading all of the books, what book chapter should you read to kind of get what you missed?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Or...

Andrew: Or just to understand why reading it is so great...

Eric: So much better.

Andrew: ...maybe.

Eric: Yeah. But...

Andrew: I would suggest one of the chapters from either Order of the Phoenix or Half-Blood Prince where Dumbledore and Harry are kind of having one of those discussions about Harry's purpose and what Dumbledore needs him to do. I think that would be really interesting for somebody to read.

Eric: Mhm.

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: I...

Micah: I think a lot of it, too, might be from Half-Blood Prince, taking a couple of chapters out of there because - and reading them because I think that so much was lost in the memories and them not doing that many of them in the movie. And I think it provided a lot of context for where they were going and what they were doing in Deathly Hallows, especially Part 2, because you're having the hunt go on for the Horcruxes so rapidly, going from the vault to Hogwarts, to destroy the diadem, to destroy the snake, and then - I just feel like if there were those memories that were in Half-Blood Prince where you're talking about the meeting with Hepzibah Smith, that was completely cut out.

Eric: And that was a really good scene in the books, and I love the Gaunt House when they visit the...

Micah: Right.

Eric: I guess he visits the Gaunts maybe more than once even. That is an incredible scene from Half-Blood Prince, the book. So, absolutely...

Micah: Right, it really kind of lays out Harry's journey more than what the movies do.

Eric: And I mean - yeah, and that actually would help clarify sort of the plot of what's going on in that way. And when I think of answering this question, I wanted to say "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs" from Prisoner of Azkaban, that chapter where we learn about Harry's dad, and Sirius and Remus being old school friends. And Lupin just tells that story of how coming to Hogwarts, Dumbledore made all these arrangements for him and it was really a great story. And then in Order of the Phoenix, there is "Snape's Worst Memory" which is a fifteen-second clip in the film but it really raised some important questions and things that Harry had to deal with as his character, dealing with whether or not Snape was right about James and what to do about it.

Micah: Yeah, I think - obviously different chapters from different books would provide better insight into how certain things play themselves out.

Andrew: Mhm. All right, good opinions all around.

Micah: But people, send...

Andrew: Micah...

Micah: ...stuff in, right? I mean, listeners, tell us! What - give us specific chapters. That's your homework.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Micah, next e-mail.



Muggle Mail: Scenes That Should've Been in the Movie


Micah: The next e-mail comes from Sara, 24, of San Diego, California, and she says:

"At the end of Episode 237 you asked what you wished had been in the movie but wasn't. I agree with whoever said I wish Harry had mended his phoenix wand, but another thing I really wish had been added was a part when Harry and Voldemort are fighting their end battle. In the book, Harry tells Voldemort that Snape was never on his side and that he was on Dumbledore's side all along. I felt like it was such an amazing slap in the face to Voldemort and I really missed that in the movie. Couldn't help adding my thoughts on that one. Thanks for the show, I love listening to you guys!"

Eric: That reminds me of - in the film, Voldemort almost apologizes to Snape before he kills him, right? He says, "Only I can live forever. I'm sorry, Severus," and then kills him, whereas in the book it's like, "You're betraying me because the Elder Wand has your allegiance." So, it's almost like it's a different relationship almost in that way. What do you guys think?

Micah: And, "Only I can live forever," - I mean, Snape was not trying to be immortal [laughs] so I didn't really understand the context of that line...

Eric: Yeah...

Micah: ...saying...

Eric: ...what was...

Micah: ...Snape...

Eric: Yeah, it was...

Micah: Snape was not trying to...

Eric: It was like sympathy, though. It was sympathy because he was about to die, but it was almost like a mercy kill at the same time. It was like - Voldemort was like, sorry, Severus. You kind of have to go now. [laughs] Time to go! Only I can [laughs] live forever.

Andrew: Next e-mail - or yeah. Go ahead, Eric. Next e-mail.



Muggle Mail: Infamous Scream from Deathly Hallows: Part 2 Trailer


Eric: Danny, 15, from Illinois says:

"I was watching 'Part 1' the other day and found the source of the infamous 'Nyaaaaah!' scream complained about in the 'Part 2' trailer. The scream is actually in 'Part 1' after Harry's and Voldemort's wands connect in the Seven Harrys chase sequence. You hear the scream after the connection breaks and it's somewhat drowned out as he fades into the distance."

Oh. Yeah, I've heard that before. I think I actually went and watched Part 1, and it sounded different to me. But I've also heard that it's actually at the end of the Order of the Phoenix when the big ball of fire becomes the big ball of water, but that was just a theory I've heard that - people have tried to place this scream because as we all know, it appeared like eleven times in the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 trailer. But...

Micah: But thankfully not in the movie.

Eric: Yeah, thankfully not the movie. It's not in the movie, so thanks for that.

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