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MuggleCast 242 Transcript

Show Intro

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Andrew: Because this is the definitive Harry Potter podcast, this is MuggleCast Episode 242 for November 13th, 2011.

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Andrew: Welcome to MuggleCast Episode 242! It's a big episode because the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 DVD is now available and we're here to talk about it! Plus, a lot of other very interesting news, actually, to talk about. Big news about the theme park...

Eric: Cool.

Andrew: ...big news about the future, all that. Yeah.

Micah: And more Pottermore.

Andrew: And more Pottermore. [laughs]

Eric: More Pottermore.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: All right. I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: Micah, what is in the news this week?

News: Pottermore Insider Blog Update, Pottermore Beta Survey

Micah: Well, surprisingly, Pottermore is in the news. [laughs] A little bit of an update, their Insider blog, which has been pretty busy lately, has talked a little bit about - they had some downtime last week and they say now, though, that things are flowing a lot more smoothly. They had a server upgrade, and now that things are doing a lot better they're going to turn their attention over to some other improvements, I guess some enhancements that they've been meaning to make, probably for the last couple of months. But the big problem was traffic and they seem to have rectified that problem somewhat.

Andrew: Well, that's good. So, hopefully no more "This site is -" or what was that, the purple screen of death? "Please come back later. Pottermore is temporarily unavailable," something like that.

Eric: A new server. Yeah, I would have thought they would have added, like, ten new servers.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: They probably did, and that's fine. I'm glad it's running better now, but there's only 600,000 people in it, and probably a fraction of them are actually going into it. So, what's going to happen when it opens to the public? Will it be ready then?

Eric: Ooh.

Micah: And that's another question is, when is it going to open to the public? Because we're already into November now, and it seems like Beta testing is going to remain open probably through the end of this year.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Do you think that's safe to say?

Andrew: I think that's safe to say. So, I don't - they need - I don't know what they need. They need to add new features, that's what they need.

Micah: And what about for people who were waiting until October to get in...

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: ...and now they're - they don't know when they're going to get in.

Andrew: Yeah. So, basically they extended the Beta period for an unknown amount of time, and who knows what's going to happen when it opens up.

Micah: It's got to be pretty frustrating, though.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: If you're a fan and for whatever reason - let's say you didn't make it in the first million...

Andrew: First 600,000. [laughs]

Eric: I think for me - yeah. I think for me, too, though, the promise of quality over - supersedes anything else.

Andrew: Yeah, I agree.

Eric: If it's going to finally work when I get in - if I hadn't been in the Beta. Did you guys take the Beta survey, though?

Andrew: Yes.

Eric: That recently closed. How was that? I hadn't really taken a look.

Andrew: It's pretty interesting.

Micah: Let's take it!

Andrew: [laughs] Let's take it.

Eric: [laughs] Let's take it right now.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: It takes like a half-hour, it's so long.

Eric: It's closed. It's closed, Micah.

Micah: Well, actually, I'm looking at the news post that you made on Hypable but you kind of paraphrased some of the questions.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: But I wanted to put those questions to you guys, I'll answer as well, and just maybe take a few of them here and see...

Andrew: Keep in mind these were actually in the survey.

Micah: Right. See what you guys think about them.

Andrew: Okay.

Micah: "Has Pottermore encouraged you to read or re-read the Harry Potter books?"

Andrew: No.

Eric: No.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: No. "How are you enjoying going through the Moments and collecting items?"

Andrew: And I think that part of the survey was like, "Very satisfied," "Not satisfied," "Very dissatisfied," and I think I scored that low because it was - you were just clicking on items and nothing really happened. It said, oh, you collected it, it's in your bag now, and you're like, okay, cool, now what? Next chapter, same thing. Repeat.

Micah: Yeah, and I think really where it falls short, too, is that there's no retention value. There's nothing that's bringing you back to the site, at least for right now, and that's something that I think they're falling short with. And as far as collecting items, what's their purpose? That's the other thing.

Eric: Well, that's like - yeah, I think it's conflicting because the fact that you can collect items suggests some sort of either repeat value or that you'd be able to use them later. I mean, not all - just because some sites have a repeat, a visit value, doesn't mean all sites need it. I feel like if Pottermore had this...

Micah: Well, this site needs it.

Eric: Well, does it, though? Because honestly, they have seven books to get through, they're three months apart. What's wrong with them just releasing each book, having everybody flock to the site, complete everything, learn everything - because it's a learning experience. It's like it echoes us reading the books for the first time - and then have these months of down period where there's not a whole lot to do. If they could perfect it, what would be wrong with that?

Micah: Well, because I think one of the things that they're trying to do here is create a community, and you can't create a community if people are only coming back six more times after Philosopher's Stone.

Andrew: And people can't really talk to each other. I mean, you can leave a comment but that's it, and you don't know who these people are. So...

Eric: Well, I think they have to somehow extend the in-book experience so that there is that community, but I still would be all right if there were periods of downtime just because...

Andrew: So...

Eric: I mean, what we're talking about on Pottermore is the new content, right? So, it all kind of gets dictated by how much there is to learn.

Andrew: So, some other questions that they asked: "If you're returning to the site following the completion of Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone," which I said no, I'm not coming back. I'm sure you guys said that, too, right?

Micah: Well, I didn't take the survey.

Andrew: Oh.

Micah: But...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: You would have.

Micah: ...I would have said no as well.

Eric: We would have, yeah.

Andrew: "Do you care about house points?" Again, I said no. [laughs] House points...

Micah: But see, this is the community aspect that I was talking about before. If there was more of a way to interact with the other members of Pottermore, I think that people would care about house points. It just seems like it's lacking that interaction value.

Eric: It's kind of like...

Micah: For me anyway.

Eric: What, like sitting in the Great Hall and looking to the table next to you and it's the other house. Ewww, it's the other house, your rivals right? But now when we're on Pottermore, we can't do that. We look off into the distance, we're just staring at our screen. We can't see everybody else who we're competing against, makes it less interactive.

Micah: But also the dueling function doesn't work...

Andrew: Yeah, it's down.

Micah: ...and that would be something I think would make people interested in house points. Potions, very difficult, but if you do brew them, you get house points. And I would think that they maybe want to start to incorporate things like classes, getting questions right, whether they're trivia based or just...

Andrew: Oh, that would be cool. Yeah.

Micah: They need more, and I know it's Beta, but if they're looking to really launch this thing sometime in 2012 they need a little bit more.

Andrew: They actually asked about the potions. "Do you have an easy time brewing potions?" My favorite question was, "What impression do you get about Sony after partnering with Pottermore?" [laughs]

Eric: Whoa!

Andrew: And some of the options were: "Bold," "Original," "Creative." [laughs] I put no to all of them.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: And that was truthful! Why would I get an impression that Sony is bold, creative, or original by...

Micah: You should have said...

Andrew: ...having their logo on Pottermore's website? That's just stupid!

Micah: "Where are the e-books?" That should have been...

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Micah: ...your response to that.

Andrew: Yeah, it should have been, "Unreliable." That's the image I got about Sony after...

Micah: Well, it's funny because that question and the one before it, "Have you seen the Sony logo on the site?" are probably the two answers that they actually care the most about.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Sony certainly does, yeah. I mean, they probably put a lot of money into this. So...

Eric: They just need to know that what they're doing is paying off, but we kind of need to know what they're doing. So, there is that.

Andrew: Yeah. So, I'm glad they did the survey, because I think they can really learn a lot from it and they'll finally have statistical evidence showing exactly what needs to be done. It basically - the survey basically addressed every - I think, every single thing that I've had a concern with, and that's good. I think there was a suggestions area and I'm pretty sure I did put in the thing that I talked about on a previous MuggleCast about the pets, taking care of pets. I know some people would find that stupid, but I, myself, would probably fall for it. I would be back daily.

Micah: Yeah, I think people are looking for that complete user experience, that complete Hogwarts experience, and it's very limited right now.

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Yeah, you can't promise people, "Oh, you'll escape back to Hogwarts once again," and then not give them a complete escape. You need to have something in there for everybody.

Andrew: What else is going on in the news?

News: 'Deathly Hallows - Part 2' Oscar Push

Micah: Well, turning our attention a little bit towards Deathly Hallows - Part 2, it seems like W.B. is making a pretty big Oscar push right now for the final Potter film. You posted on Hypable a picture of a billboard that you came across when you were eating at your favorite local restaurant.

Andrew: Yeah, that's Chick-fil-A, by the way.

Micah: Chick-fil-A.

Andrew: I just wanted to let everybody know.

Micah: Are they sponsoring this show?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: No, but me and Eric both like it.

Micah: They might be, in the future.

Eric: They should, yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: They really should. Andrew, we should get on that.

Andrew: [laughs] Okay, I'll look into it.

Micah: But you're actually seeing a lot of W.B.-based promotion. I know they put a video together, they sent out a booklet, and it looks like they're going to pull out all the stops as far as pushing Deathly Hallows - Part 2 for numerous Oscar nominations.

Andrew: Yeah. And a reminder, they said they were - well, not they, but Variety wrote an article a couple of weeks ago saying that this would happen - or a couple of months ago saying that Warner Bros. had every intention of making a "big push" for it to be nominated in all the categories that they're pushing. I know, at least on the promotional material, they're particularly highlighting Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay. And on the booklet that they're handing out to potential Oscar voters, on the back of it they list everything that it's nominated for, Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, Best Actress/Supporting Actress, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, and a bunch of others. So, I'm glad they are doing this, but does it work? If I'm an Oscar voter, and I'm driving through Hollywood and I see this billboard, am I encouraged to vote for Harry Potter?

Eric: Yeah. I mean, I feel like in the same way that any advertising works or doesn't work, right? You have people who are more affected by it, right? I mean...

Andrew: But are Oscar voters persuadable? I mean...

Eric: Yeah, I don't know.

Andrew: They're smart people, right? They can't...

Eric: Are they?

Andrew: [laughs] I don't know!

Eric: No, I mean, isn't there this whole - I mean, a lot of people - I've seen books published about the runner-up for Best Picture and things, some questionable Best Picture - that'll always be a highly-debated topic of what they choose and why. But, at the same time, I don't know Oscar voters. I've never been one or met one, so I have no idea.

Micah: Well, one thing that I've noticed - and I don't really know anything when it comes to movies, really - is that it seems like the field is weak. A lot of articles are saying that - especially as it relates to the Deathly Hallows, saying that this could be the movie's opportunity, the best possibly since the films were created to really pick up some awards in 2012 because the field just doesn't have the same movie power, I guess, as it has in years past.

Andrew: Well, I agree with that. I certainly agree with that.

[Prolonged silence]

Andrew: Good luck.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Andrew: Good luck, Harry Potter.

Eric: Yeah, so we'll see.

Andrew: Well, I guess - in closing, W.B. must believe that this kind of promotion works, otherwise why would they do it? I mean, they are this industry, they should know that if they promote it this much, it should certainly increase their chances. So, they're doing it for a reason.

Micah: And look at what happened with Return of the King, how it completely swept...

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: ...Oscars when it didn't previously do very well, or win anything at all for the first two Lord of the Rings films. And Harry Potter hasn't won an Oscar at all for any of the previous seven films up to this point.

Eric: Right, it's kind of just like, oh, by the way, this series is the most amazing feat in filmmaking ever for Return of the King. It just got everything, and I'm not saying it didn't deserve it, but you're right, it was kind of a surprise that year because it was just like that whole year was dedicated to Lord of the Rings and wasn't it kind of - I mean, I think I've heard people suggest that it was kind of - not back payment, but like, we've owed you this kind of recognition across from previous films. Previous films didn't get much, da da da da dah, but here's all of them this year [laughs] because - nice work.

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News: Harry Potter: The Definitive Collection Release Date

Micah: Harry Potter: The Definitive Collection is set for release in...

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: ...2012, and this is no surprise. The Potter films will come back out of the vault, at least for a short period of time, and what do you guys think? There's a small trailer about forty seconds long. There's nothing really, with respect to a feature's section of this package, and I don't think we probably will see that until maybe after this DVD/Blu-ray has been on shelves for a little while.

Andrew: What do you mean? The one coming out now?

Micah: Yeah, the one that's coming out, or - I guess this show will be after its release, so the one that was released on Friday.

Eric: Well, I wouldn't expect to see any kind of feature list until a couple of months from now because I'd like to think, in my mind, that they're still working on some of the stuff, because if it's features they already have filmed and stuff, and arranged, they should have released it on this box set. I just think - and I did a little review of the Blu-ray/DVD combo that I think we all have, and that trailer at the beginning of it is kind of - to me, was tasteless a little bit because you just buy a movie - presumably you have just purchased this movie and it's like, here's where - you can buy the movie again in this big set. Hello! [laughs] If you had just waited, here is the collection you could have gotten. So...

Micah: Well, that's why I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying I don't think you're going to see a list of features probably for maybe another two months or so until you get into the new year because right now, Warner Bros. is all about promoting Deathly Hallows - Part 2 on Blu-ray and DVD...

Eric: Well, I was...

Micah: well as the eight film collection.

Eric: I was surprised that there even was a set though, honestly, because if they're worried at all about...

[Eric's phone makes message sound]

Eric: Sorry. Because if they're worried at all about bothering people, [laughs] they shouldn't have included that trailer on this thing, because that...

Micah: And here's my other question, is how does the eight film collection differ from the Definitive Collection? [laughs]

Eric: Well, the Definitive Collection is definitive.

Andrew: It's just branding.

Eric: Isn't it...

Andrew: It's just - yeah. I mean, can you top "definitive"? So, theoretically this should be...

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: ...the last one...

Eric: Right.

Andrew: ...ever. [laughs]

Eric: Can you top "definitive"? Director's cut, maybe? I don't know.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, that's the thing.

Eric: Definitive...

Andrew: So, hopefully there are - listen, they're definitely saving things for future releases, whether it's new deleted scenes, new featurettes, all that stuff. They're definitely saving...

Micah: Bloopers.

Andrew: Bloopers, right! So, I think they're holding some of that back and that's what you'll see in the Definitive Collection next year.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: And by the way, I will guess now that it probably will come out about this time next year. They'll want it for Christmas, it'll be a Christmas release, holiday season release.

Eric: You think so?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, I think we've been cautioning people on this podcast, and everybody just has to kind of be smart with your purchase. If you don't need all eight films on Blu-ray now, wait until the Definitive Collection comes around.

Andrew: Yeah.

News: Harry Potter Films Not Pulled From Store Shelves Outside of US

Micah: Well, Andrew, to your point, though, for people here in the United States if in fact that Definitive Collection comes out in December 2012, they may want to get Deathly Hallows - Part 2 [laughs] on Blu-ray or DVD because we reported on the podcast, I think it was the last show, that the Harry Potter films here in the United States are going to be going into the proverbial vault.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: And - but that won't, however, be the case for those overseas.

Andrew: Yeah, lucky people.

Micah: Which is interesting. So, if you want, go and purchase the French version of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 on DVD and Blu-ray if for whatever reason, you don't get it before December 29th.

Eric: Well, you will need a multi-region DVD player.

Andrew: Yeah, that's...

Micah: Then fly to France and...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Buy a DVD player...

Eric: Get a DVD player.

Micah: Find another...

Andrew: ...and buy the power converter.

Micah: Yeah, find a Potter fan. I'm sure there's a few there.

Andrew: Well, I'm announcing - starting next year, I will be making voyages on boats, like Christopher Columbus...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...eastward to get copies and bring them back to America. And I will be selling them for higher prices, but I will be bringing Harry Potter to America.

[Eric and Micah laugh]

Eric: Sounds good.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: All right. And...

Andrew: It's my new business.

News: Future Universal Harry Potter Theme Parks

Micah: ...last bit of news that we have, the head honcho at Universal has said that there are plans in the works for more Potter theme parks. Now this is different than expansion.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: Is that...

Micah: Universal chief Ron Meyer...

Eric: Is that an official title, "head honcho"?

Andrew: Well...

Micah: Yeah...

Andrew: ...that's what Deadline called him, so...

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Eric: Wow.

Micah: He's also referred to as Universal chief.

Andrew: Or Movieline. Yeah, whatever.

Micah: But I like "head honcho".

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Micah: It just sounds cooler.

Andrew: What's wrong with "head honcho"?

Eric: That's...

Micah: No, I like it.

Eric: He went to business school to become head honcho, clearly.

Andrew: By the way, this guy is a little out there. He probably wasn't supposed to say that other Potter parks are in the works, because he also crapped on multiple Universal films...

Eric: What?!

Andrew: ...which he owns. Yeah.

Eric: [laughs] Which he owns.

Andrew: Sorry, it wasn't Deadline, it was Movieline. Yeah. So, isn't that interesting? So, they're working on other Harry Potter parks. I thought this was huge news. But I guess just because it was such a short remark and...

Micah: Yes.

Andrew: ...kind of off the cuff, it wasn't that big a deal.

Micah: That was the remark.

Andrew: What? Oh. [laughs]

Eric: I don't know. They don't really have other Universal parks, right? Besides California and...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Is there an overseas Universal Studios?

Andrew: Well, no. But there was a rumor a long time ago - actually it sounded more credible than a rumor. I can't remember exactly when it happened, it may have been about a year ago. Some park in India was apparently working with Universal to bring Harry Potter...

Eric: Yeah, I remember that.

Andrew: I think it was India, yeah.

Eric: I remember that story.

Andrew: So, that could be one. But it was plural. The question was, "Are you working on other parks?" And the problem with bringing Harry Potter to Universal L.A. is that it's really small.

Eric: Oh yeah, you've said...

Andrew: Now I haven't been there, but that's what I've heard. And if you look at it on Google Maps - I mean, it's in a mountain, so they really can't... [laughs]

Eric: Well... [laughs]

Andrew: There's really limited room to expand.

Eric: Maybe they'll do a Gringotts park, right?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: It's all underground?

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Andrew: So, they may - I think whatever they will do, if they do something in Hollywood, I don't know if it will - unless they're going to buy land elsewhere and just build - I mean, that would be amazing if they built a second park in L.A. separate from Universal Studios L.A., but who knows? I mean, at the earliest, this stuff could be opening 2014, 2015, 2016, so it's still a long way off.

Micah: Do you think it's possible that the one in Orlando will see expansion before there's...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...another park somewhere else?

Andrew: Or at the same time.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Because - and remember, in the contract between Universal and Warner Bros. they have some agreement where the park has to see additions every two to three years in some form. And there have just been so many rumors about additions to the one in Orlando and obviously, Universal Orlando wants more additions, because it will bring everybody back.

Micah: Oh, yeah. And they can have another Home Entertainment Celebration.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]

Eric: Or some other celebration. But yeah, I think - well, that's a good transition, isn't it?

Andrew: What's the next story?

Eric: Into the...

Micah: As far as...

Andrew: Oh, yeah.

Eric: Well, as far as the celebration.

Andrew: Oh. Yeah.

News: Harry Potter Home Entertainment Celebration

Eric: So - yeah, with the film's release on DVD and Blu-ray, which we'll be getting to very shortly, they are actually having a celebration down in the Harry Potter Wizarding World theme park that's called the Warner Bros. Home - or Harry Potter Home Entertainment Celebration. They're having a few events and a few press events, and twenty of the actors and cast members - I guess I don't know the difference - and filmmakers are going to be in attendance down in the Wizarding World for these press junkets, and there's going to be a red carpet event. And honestly, I think Micah and I had the same reaction, and I think, Andrew, you, too. It's kind of just another celebration, [laughs] you know? It's all the Harry Potter films on Home Video. So, it's really exciting they kind of want to go out with a bang, but this really is the end of the end of the end, as far as celebrations go.

Micah: For now.

Andrew: [laughs] For now.

Eric: I mean, can we really expect to see all these actors come back again?

Micah: Well, probably when the studio tour opens, they'll do something.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Mhm.

Andrew: Well - and also, I think - I predict they'll want to do these Home Entertainment Celebrations every year, around every November, because if this one goes really well, they can sell these higher-priced tickets. Maybe they won't have as many actors back as they are this time. But then again, the grand opening of the theme park, everybody said, "Oh, how many - will they all come back again?" And look, they're all coming back again. [laughs] So...

Eric: So fascinating.

Andrew: Yeah, it's cool. I'm sure it will be a fun event. Eric will be there. And I don't know if this episode is coming out on Saturday or Sunday, but there's a live stream from E!, I can't remember what day it is.

Eric: Yeah, E! Online. I think it's Saturday evening.

Andrew: Okay.

Eric: They'll have that there.

Andrew: So yeah.

Eric: Cool.

Andrew: I hope it's a fun event.

Micah: I mean, everybody seems to make their way down to the Wizarding World at one time or another. I know you have a story in here about James Cameron, the director of Avatar, and he was apparently scouting, I guess...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...the Wizarding World for his own theme park that Disney is going to open within the next few years.

Andrew: Yeah, Disney World's answer to Harry Potter is going to be Avatar World...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: ...Land, whatever you want to call it. And it was just funny to me that James Cameron - it wasn't like an official visit, there wasn't publicity photos released by Universal or anything, but somebody at Universal the same time James Cameron was there took a couple of pictures of him inside the Wizarding World theme park. And it was just funny because a lot of people were saying when this original Avatar announcement was made that, "Oh, look, this is definitely in response to Harry Potter." So, it was just a funny little thing. I was amused. But that's what they need to do, they need to look and see what worked in Harry Potter World, and clearly the amount of detail and appreciation for the series that you see in it, I'm sure James Cameron and Disney are really going to be interested in being as loyal to James Cameron's film as possible when they're making the park.

Eric: Yeah, I wonder if they're replacing Animal Kingdom, because they already have that huge giant tree.

[Prolonged silence]

Eric: Bad joke.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Bad joke.

Andrew: I kind of got it.

Micah: Are they going to make the tree fall down every day?

Eric: Yeah, daily.

Micah: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: At 1 PM and 6 PM. And the evening show is fireworks.

Micah: But - just on that real quick, I know we talked about it on a previous episode, but I remember one person writing in saying that while Avatar doesn't have the same draw as Harry Potter from a fan standpoint, Disney just does so well from an overall standpoint that, because of the traffic that Disney gets on a regular basis, that new section of the park is going to do well regardless.

Eric: That's true.

Micah: Do you agree with that, Andrew? Because you go pretty often to Disneyland.

Andrew: Yeah. I mean, Disney – you can't beat Disney no matter what. Universal - the Wizarding World, in particular, is a great park but you go to Universal and you just see so many differences, and it really makes you appreciate what Disney does in terms of park cleanliness, just how they treat their guests, all of that. It's a much better experience. And hopefully Universal will get better in time, but right now Disney is definitely supreme.

Eric: Well, I think, too, with Disney, they have a lot of other parks and a lot of other really strong parks, where in the past we've said Islands of Adventure is kind of scarce at times in terms of having something that's equally as exciting as the Harry Potter Wizarding World to go off to. I mean, I've always enjoyed Universal Studios Florida when I've been there and the rides there are really strong, but it just seems like Disney - just count them, they have far more official parks and lands to go and visit. So, I think in that way, Disney is a very clear competitor to Universal and, like you said, anything with Disney's name on it is going to possibly hurt Universal but it's also going to be fairly successful.

Main Discussion: Deathly Hallows - Part 2 DVD/Blu-ray Review

Andrew: So, that's it for the news except for the biggest story which will be our main discussion this week, which is the Harry Potter...

Micah: LEGO Harry Potter!

Andrew: Oh. [laughs] Yeah, that was released, too. [laughs] Actually, Micah's getting a review copy of that and he'll review it in a future episode. Anyway, Deathly Hallows - Part 2 came out on DVD/Blu-ray this past Friday in America. Sorry, UK people. I know you have to wait a few more weeks but...

Eric: December 2nd.

Andrew: We're going to review it now and we won't...

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: I don't think we'll spoil too much that's not...

Eric: There's a...

Micah: Nothing that's not already, really, on the web at this point.

Eric: Right, because I did a 5,400 word review [laughs] on the site, on MuggleNet.

Micah: And people leaked videos.

Eric: That's the thing, the videos of every single interview and - they just chopped up all the interviews on the DVD and put them on the web. I don't know if Warner Bros. was behind all of it...

Andrew: And W.B. doesn't seem to care.

Eric: Yeah. They're all just...

Andrew: They're on YouTube. They could easily get them off YouTube if they wanted.

Micah: They've let it go at this point.

Eric: YouTube is very...

Micah: They spent so long trying to get trailers and other things...

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: the web that they've just given up.

Andrew: And I've been taking transcripts and posting them on Hypable for some of the highlights [laughs] from the conversations, just been writing transcripts.

Micah: Well, text is a bit different. I think you're okay with text.

Andrew: Yeah. And I'm not taking everything, I'm just taking a couple of highlights.

Eric: Video is just like - so much of it. It's crazy.

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