MuggleCast 245 Transcript (continued)



Main Discussion: "The Big Seven" - J.K. Rowling (Bonus Star)


Andrew: And a final bonus star in this segment, J.K. Rowling! Now we know she's doesn't have a film career.

Matt: She's doing a movie?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: No, she's not going to be a movie star. But it's been a while since we've talked about what's next for J.K. Rowling because we've kind of been distracted by Pottermore over the past few months.

Matt: Because we haven't heard anything from her, though.

Andrew: Allegedly, what's been keeping her pen and paper - "Pen and paper is my priority at the moment," I guess that ended up being Pottermore. But you got to think...

Matt: [laughs] That was online.

Eric: That was not pen or paper.

Matt: [laughs] It wasn't really pen or paper.

Andrew: Yeah.

Matt: It was a mouse.

Andrew: But you've got to think she's still writing stuff for other books, but will we see...

Micah: She's busy testifying.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah. Oh, that's for another day. But do you think she is going to release a new book in 2012 or 2013 now that Pottermore is kind of sort of going? Do you think she has a future book that we may see in 2012 or 2013?

Matt: Not 2012.

Eric: But why not?

Matt: If anything, probably...

Eric: What has she been doing?

Matt: I don't know. It just seems like if she was releasing it in 2012, we'd be hearing something.

Eric: Well...

Matt: Like a rumor already.

Eric: I am shocked too that we have not heard anything because even those pen and paper priority tweets are over a year old, aren't they?

Andrew: Mhm.

Matt: She's tweeted the same tweet twice.

Eric: But over the course of years...

Andrew: No, more than that.

Eric: ...she's been this.

Matt: Oh, more. Okay, well - yeah, but she always tweets the same thing.

Eric: She's clearly working on something. I thought she was working on a children's book. I think she even said in an interview she was working on three different things.

Matt: I remember years ago that she said she was doing like an adult crime drama or something.

Andrew: She said, September 2009, "Pen and paper is my priority at the moment." So, nobody would have guessed that - hearing pen and paper is her priority at the moment, you would assume back in September '09, oh, we're going to hear about a book...

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: ...in a year or two.

Eric: That's 26 months ago.

Andrew: Nope. [laughs]

Eric: 26 months ago.

Andrew: [laughs] Over two years!

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: And wow, that's pretty crazy to think about. That was straight up misleading.

Matt: Mhm.

[Andrew laughs]

Matt: But I mean...

Andrew: That was a lie!

Eric: Well, and Pottermore...

Matt: The reason I don't think we would something within a year at least is because she's a high-profile author, she has a huge fan base. If she was writing anything, we would have heard at least a hint or a tease of some sort...

Eric: I don't know.

Matt: ...if it was coming within a year.

Eric: Maybe she just doesn't want to advertise it or produce it or have...

Matt: Geez, do something! Update your site!

Eric: Yeah, that is true. Even though she's got Pottermore - and I don't think she can ever get rid of Pottermore now, even though it seems like it's going away. I think she is stuck with it.

[Andrew and Matt laugh]

Andrew: You just want it to go away.

Eric: [laughs] But her home website should be more about what else she is doing. That can be less Potter related because her site wasn't really ever Potter related. It was about her, it's her desk you're seeing, but...

Matt: Right. I mean, we can find, like, what? Post-it notes or something about what she's doing.

Eric: It should be about her upcoming projects, even if they're not related to Potter and...

Micah: I think the Twitter account, though, was made specifically because she had people who were impersonating her, so she just wanted to create an official account.

Matt: No, that's exactly what it was.

Andrew: That's fine...

Matt: No, you're right.

Micah: I wouldn't really go ahead and worry about any official information being put out there just because as you guys mentioned, the last three tweets have all been the same thing. And maybe next year is the year. I mean, it's five years since Deathly Hallows was released. In 2012, it's also going to be, what? 15 years since Sorcerer's Stone was released, so we're getting all these anniversaries obviously coming up. I can't believe it's going to be five years [laughs] since Deathly Hallows was released. That's just scary.

Matt: Oh God, we're getting old.

Micah: Yeah, we are. [laughs] But I would like to see something new. What Matt was talking about just before...

Matt: Or just hear about something new. I mean, we don't need something new - I think it would be asking for too much if we get something within a year, but at least some news of something. Just update your Twitter or update your site or just update us.

Eric: I wonder what she's writing.

Micah: The Beedle The Bard doesn't really count because wasn't most of that already written before Deathly Hallows?

Andrew: Yeah, it was just a short thing.

Matt: Even an encyclopedia would be nice.



Listener Tweets: "The Big Seven"


Andrew: So, we asked people on Twitter, Twitter.com/MuggleCast, who do you think has the most promising future of the stars and why?

Micah: J.K. Rowling.

Andrew: othlaholly said:

"Out of the trio I'd say Emma on the big screen and Dan in more of the Broadway type thing. Dan just looked so comfortable up on the stage for being such a newbie! Emma just seems like a natural movie star to me."

Matt: Well, that's what I said.

Andrew: DumbledorkAdams said:

"Emma Watson. She's already branched out into other fields such as fashion, and just needs to diversify her film catalogue a bit."

Eric: Ooh.

Matt: Oh.

Andrew: silverdoe25 said:

"Dan Radcliffe. If you've seen him in 'How to Succeed', you know why."

[Eric laughs]

Matt: Aww, but - so I don't know.

Andrew: ceilidh_brenzzz says:

"Dan's passion and enjoyment for what he does is definitely going to get him far! After all, he has a fantastic resume!"

Eric: That's true.

Andrew: jrgreen2010 says:

"Dan Radcliffe. He has an amazing resume since the 'Potter' films and doing great on Broadway."

potions_class says:

"Emma Watson! She is 'One Take Watson,' after all!"

Eric: [laughs] One Take Watson?

Andrew: [laughs] Here's a great one. Oh my gosh, this one is crazy. [laughs] This one is from McGregorsWench:

"Sean Biggerstaff! He may not make blockbusters but he chooses projects that showcase his talent and is believable in the roles!!"

Eric: I wonder if I could...

Andrew: Wow!

Eric: If I tried, I wonder if I could find something else that Sean Biggerstaff has been in.

Matt: I totally believed his role though when he was flying on that broomstick in Part 2.

Andrew: Yeah, it was very believable.

Matt: I was immersed in that.

Andrew: I saw - he was in a short film or a short web series or something like that...

Matt: Oh, it was something...

Andrew: ...a couple of years ago.

Matt: Yeah.

Andrew: And it wasn't - I mean, I guess I believed it.

Matt: Something like a grocery store or something.

Andrew: I believed his career was over. Ooh. That's mean. TanvirSKhalsa - something like that - says:

"Emma Watson. Acting in movies along with her education equals great decision. Her experience working with the best actors in Britain is great."

So, we got quite a few. If you want to participate in the Twitter responses that we include on pretty much every episode, just follow Twitter.com/MuggleCast. Speaking of Pottermore, Micah, would you like to read the first e-mail to wrap up the show today?

Micah: The first e-mail is going to wrap up the show?

Andrew: No, no, what I meant was...

[Matt laughs]

Micah: Oh. [laughs]

Andrew: ...as we enter our final segment that will wrap up the show.

Micah: That's it, we're done.

Matt: The final stretch.

Micah: We're not even going to answer Rachael.

[Andrew and Eric laugh]



Muggle Mail: Positives about Pottermore


Micah: All right. [laughs] E-mail comes from Rachael, 26, in the U.K. She says:

"Hi guys, I have just recently caught up with a back-log of episodes since September and there sounds like there is a huge amount going down in Pottermore. I put off registering for the test period because I was away in Japan the entire time testing was open. I did this thinking that I would be able to at least register when I got back to give me something to do on my days off as well as listening to you guys. I have to say that it is disappointing that they extended the testing. Also, your comments on it make it sound like it is a mess. Nothing is wrong with honesty but is it really that bad? What are its positives?"

And she also goes on to say that she listened to us, speaking of places where you listen to MuggleCast, on Mount Fuji.

Andrew: Oh, cool!

Micah: That's pretty cool.

Andrew: Yeah. Positives with Pottermore. We tried to throw positives in because they are there. I would say the chief positive among them is that there is tons of new content from J.K. Rowling. And we've been clear about that, there is that new content. However once you read it, it's not really worth reading it again. And probably the other positive is the Sorting Hat, assuming that the Sorting is accurate. The wand selection, assuming that is accurate. So, those three to me. Any other positives, guys?

Matt: The artwork is really nice.

Eric: The artwork is nice. I think they - like you said, there is all this content from Jo. They just need to make the case a little bit stronger for having Pottermore instead of a book in print, like an encyclopedia in print, I think, because we're not sure.

Matt: Mhm.

Eric: We're a little skeptical at the moment that Sorting - is Sorting accurate? Or - and things like that. They just need to answer those questions, I think, and make it a little bit more - give us more of a reason to come back and enjoy, and really appreciate what it is that they are doing online instead of saying we would have rather had a book for this encyclopedia. Because the content from Jo is great. It really, really, really truly is and I'm looking forward to seeing more of it. But is this something that really needs to be on this Flash server, always overloading programme, or would it really be better in a book?

Micah: Well, I also think the other thing people need to keep in mind too is that they're going to keep releasing books over the next - I don't know how long it's going to be once, let's say, Chamber of Secrets comes out in early 2012. What's the time lapse going to be in between books? Because you're going to have to keep people's interest over time and I think right now, that's what they're lacking.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: That could be part of the reason why they're still in beta, is they don't have something that's going to keep people there for the time in between books and after even.

Matt: Mhm.



Muggle Mail: Episode 244 Praise


Andrew: We also got some e-mails about our last episode, Episode 244, with our first ever Harry Potter DVD commentary. I'm just going to jump through all three real quick. Daylon, 17, of Arizona said:

"I just want to let you guys know I really enjoyed the 'Part 2' commentary. I learned so much and saw things you pointed out that I would have otherwise not seen. It would make me really happy if you did that for all the movies. Now that we know future happenings, it would be cool to go back and point out things that occur later because of a specific scene or character."



Muggle Mail: Wrong Prediction by Trelawney


Andrew: Thomas - and now this must be a typo - age 107, from Maryland says:

[in an old man's voice] "Enjoyed the commentary. Well done."

[normal voice] No.

"There are many troubling aspects of this film that deviate from the books. I understand a lot of them for filming reasons, but there is one that is simply a glaring mistake. In the Pensieve of Snape's memories, there's a scene where Trelawney is making a prediction but it isn't the one Snape overheard that set the whole saga in motion. It's the one she made to Harry in Book 3. "Servant and master shall be reunited once more." Seems like a pretty big error."

What do you guys think about that? I didn't even notice that.

Matt: I didn't care.

Andrew: Is he right?

Eric: Yeah, yeah, I saw her but it's - and I don't know if you can hear Trelawney speaking and if you can, that would be an error because it's obviously the wrong prediction. But you can see Emma Watson - and it's a shot from Prisoner of Azkaban - making that prediction which is interesting.



Muggle Mail: Fred's Death Scene


Andrew: Jessica, 15, of Indiana wrote about Fred's death scene.

"In your 'Part 2' commentary, Eric talked about the scene where Voldemort was telling the Death Eaters to retreat, but Alecto killed Fred then anyway. That actually was not Fred who she was fighting, but George. James commented on Twitter that it was him who was fighting her. Also, if you look at the earlier scene, George is wearing the same colored jacket."

So, there is some proof as the twins...

Eric: Okay, so the twins - what I thought was the...

Micah: So, I was right.

Eric: Yeah, what I thought was the twin's death scene was not as moving...

Andrew: Was not.

Eric: ...as I hoped it was. So, whatever. Okay.

Andrew: Yeah. I mean, it was really hard to tell. I mean, we just saw a Weasley twin there freaking out.

Matt: I thought you guys noticed he didn't have an ear.



Muggle Mail: Radio Announcement, Attendance at Hogwarts


Andrew: Oh, that was not there. Micah, you want to read the next e-mail from Chaelin? "Chai-lin"? "Kaylin"?

Micah: "Kaylin"?

Andrew: "Kaylin"?

Micah: Let's go with "Kaylin", 15, of Maryland and he or she [laughs] says:

"Just listened to the DVD commentary. Loved it. Made me laugh. Anyway, when you were talking about the 'Lightning has struck,' the boy says 'River,' who is Lee. Lee never returns and also, wouldn't they say in this 'Royal' or even 'Romulus?' Just my thoughts."

Okay. I guess that's referring to when - who goes over to the radio to announce that Harry is back?

Matt: That guy.

Andrew: We don't know, do we? I mean...

Eric: Lightning has struck?

Micah: Is it just a random person?

Andrew: Yeah. I mean, maybe in the book this person is named, but I'm not sure.

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: All right. But other part of this person's e-mail talks about something that a lot of people wrote in about:

"Also, you were talking about how you wouldn't want to send your kids to Hogwarts, especially the first years, but in 'Deathly Hallows' it says that all students have to go to Hogwarts. It's a law that the Ministry, under Voldemort's control, made. Thought you should know that."

Eric: So, that answers that question. Also one of my mistakes.

Matt: He says, "River?" I thought he said, "Repeat?" Because, "Lightning has struck! Repeat, lightning has struck!"

Eric: Repeat, lightning has struck? Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah, that would make more sense. [laughs]

Matt: River?

Andrew: [laughs] Eric, next e-mail?



Muggle Mail: Knowledge of Horcruxes


Eric: This one comes from Ryan, aged 21, the U.K.:

"Hey guys, just a small comment. Although Voldemort feeling when a Horcrux is destroyed works well in the final film, he presumably didn't feel anything when the ring was destroyed in 'Half-Blood Prince', or he would have known then that they were hunting Horcruxes and made sure the other ones were safe."

That's a good one. That's actually a good point. They're thinking only as far as the current film goes because Voldemort would have known what they were up to far sooner than he does in the movie or in the books. Good point.

Matt: Well, do you think that maybe just Voldemort knew that Dumbledore was doing it but he didn't know that Harry knew?

Eric: Well, no. I mean, I think even in Book 7 - when Voldemort finds out, it's like the ground falling out from under him and he only finds out - what is it? Because he comes across? Or he just goes to check on one of his old Horcruxes and it's not there or something? So, he has that flip-out moment and then immediately flies to Hogwarts. So...

Matt: Well, it seems obvious that the more Horcruxes are destroyed, the more he feels it. Maybe early on, he just didn't feel it as much?

Eric: Well yeah, he doesn't feel it at all in the books because he's not supposed to be...

Matt: Right.

Eric: ...close to...

Matt: And you don't even see Voldemort being affected when the necklace gets destroyed either.

Eric: Right. He is super surprised that anybody found out his secret and that's the real thing of it all, is that - yeah, if it had happened - if the movies were consistent and he felt the destruction of the other Horcruxes like the ring, then he would have found out quite a bit sooner and they wouldn't have the chance to defeat him.

Matt: Mhm. Yeah, because he doesn't even find out until after they leave Gringotts.



Muggle Mail: Lily's Eye Color


Andrew: Verah, 22, of Toronto, Ontario in Canada, says:

"Hey guys, I loved the 'Deathly Hallows: Part 2' commentary. I had a fresh take to the DVD since it didn't have its own commentary. The only thing that I wanted to say was the fact that you guys were discrediting Geraldine Somerville. I know there were a lot of issues with the fact that Lily Evans as a little girl didn't have blue eyes, but if you look at a picture of Geraldine, she has very blue eyes which are very similar in color to Daniel Radcliffe's eyes. I think the fact that young Lily's eyes were brown was because the casting directors were focusing mainly on getting a very cute red-headed girl to play Lily and forgot to take into account Lily's eyes color matching Harry's. They did focus on it when casting Geraldine and I just wanted to make that clear."

Matt: Well, it's...

Andrew: I mean...

Matt: ...exactly the fact.

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree with that as well.

Matt: It's exactly what they did. It's not that it's a good idea. I feel like the eyes probably could have been a focal point when they were casting.

Eric: But we got a few other e-mails about eye color can change when you grow up, so...

Andrew: Yeah, that's grasping for straws. [laughs]

Eric: [laughs] But we did.

Matt: From brown to blue...

Eric: We did though.

Matt: ...that's a pretty dramatic change.

Eric: We did. We did get those e-mails.



Muggle Mail: Snape's Escape


Andrew: Alex, 15, of Concord, finally, writes:

"Hey MuggleCast, I'm a long time listener, first time commenter."

You guys can do first time, long time. That's a short abbreviation for that kind of thing.

"During Episode 244, I was watching the movie along with your commentary and saw something that surprised me. When Harry shows himself to Snape in the Great Hall and McGonagall starts to duel him, it is Snape, not McGonagall, that knocks out the Carrows. If you watch closely, Snape counters McGonagall's spell, waves his wand behind his head, and that knocks out the Carrows!"

Well, that's...

Matt: Yeah, I noticed that the last time I saw it. One of my friends told me about it and it's true, he actually takes out the Carrows himself while he's dueling McGonagall.

Eric: Does it appear to be...

Matt: It's awesome.

Eric: ...a conscious decision of his?

Matt: It's - well, once you see it, it is obvious that it is a conscious thing because he wants to duel them out so he doesn't leave the Carrows to hurt anyone before he leaves.

Andrew: Oh, that could be true.

Matt: It's awesome.

Andrew: Cool.

Micah: Yeah, that is pretty cool. I was going to say on the other e-mail, and I don't know if there is confusion, the one just before. Geraldine Somerville plays the older Lily Potter, not the younger one.

Andrew: Oh.

Micah: Right?

Matt: Yeah, Geraldine plays his mom.

Eric: Yeah, so that's what the e-mail...

Micah: It's Ellie Darcey-Alden that plays young Lily Potter, so I just want to make sure - because the way that Verah phrased it in this, sounds like she's talking about the younger one.

Eric: No, the...

Andrew: And...

Eric: When they cast the first film, when they cast Harry's mother, they did make sure that - they paid more attention to the eyes. But when they cast the young Lily Potter in this film, they did not.



Show Close


Andrew: Okay, so a couple of short related announcements before we wrap up. First, a transcript update, Micah.

Micah: Yeah, I know we've been not as up-to-date [laughs] as we'd like to be but the two most recent episodes, 243 and 244, which includes Eric's interviews with Arthur Parsons as well as some interviews from the Quidditch World Cup, and the more recent one being our DVD commentary, they will be available shortly - and shortly, I mean by the end of the weekend here.

Andrew: Cool.

Micah: And we're just going to work on getting all the others that we're missing in between up as soon as we possibly can, so...

Andrew: Very good.

Micah: I don't know why you'd want to read along [laughs] while you watch the movie. It might be a little bit more difficult...

Andrew: Oh, don't transcribe that one.

Micah: ...to do that and listen.

Andrew: Are you going to transcribe that one?

Micah: No, they've already done it.

Eric: Oh wow!

Micah: It's already been done.

Andrew: Oh my goodness!

Micah: Yeah, so...

Andrew: Well, that's great! Cool.

Micah: Thank you, though.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: I know we always - we don't always get a chance to thank everybody...

Andrew: Yeah, thanks to...

Micah: ...that does work so hard.

Andrew: Yeah, it really is a great resource for fans who are maybe hearing impaired or just want to - prefer to read the transcripts.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: And a little tease for what's coming up in December, we will have a standard show. We'll talk about news, maybe Chapter-by-Chapter, very fun segments. We haven't really planned it out yet. And then our year-in-review episode with the third annual - or fourth annual, I don't know which it is - MuggleCasties! [laughs] And that's fun. In that, we give you a variety of categories to vote in, all Harry Potter related and you tell us which one you think is the best of the year.

Matt: Oh, it's that time again, isn't it?

Andrew: It is.

Eric: I wonder who's going up for the J.K. Rowling Award this year.

Andrew: Yes...

Matt: Hmm.

Andrew: ...I wonder.

Matt: There's some competitors.

Eric: There might be.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Maybe Lev Grossman will get it.

Andrew: Okay. And final reminder, you can visit MuggleCast.com for all the information you need about the show. Don't forget to subscribe and review us on iTunes. You can also follow us on Twitter which is Twitter.com/MuggleCast, like us on Facebook which is Facebook.com/MuggleCast, and follow the fan Tumblr which has recently had many contributions from Eric…

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: …at MuggleCast.Tumblr.com. I'm on to you, Eric!

Eric: I just - what it was - I was going through old hard drives and I found the original T-shirt image and - yeah, they have a "Submit" button on the MuggleCast [unintelligible] so I thought I'd…

Andrew: Yeah, it's fine.

Eric: …participate.

Andrew: It's all good.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: It's all good. Lots of good stuff on there. And thanks to Allie and Angel for running that. It's - people love Tumblr - will enjoy the fan Tumblr if you listen to MuggleCast.

[Show music begins]

Micah: And shameless self-promotion, if you want to read my full review on LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7, it's up on MuggleNet.com and we'll put a link to it in the show notes.

Andrew: Of course. "Always," in the words of Snape.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Thanks everyone for listening! From Hypable.com, I'm Andrew Sims.

Eric: From MuggleNet.com, I'm Eric Scull.

Micah: From MSNBC.com, I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Matt: From TMZ, I'm Matt Britton.

Andrew: And we'll see everybody next time for Episode 246! Goodbye!

Eric: Bye!

Micah: Bye!

[Show music continues]


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